Guest guest Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Test Cyp has BA in it so you are injecting alcohol into your muscle if you are on TRT. ________________________________ From: phil <phildude43@...> Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:29:34 PM Subject: Bacteriostatic water and HCG Have seen numerous posts about mixing HCG.The only difference between B-staic and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has been added.Both are sterile to begin with and both can be contaminated.I use sterile sodium chloride without benzyl alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate it, using only new sterile needles and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol alcohol before withdrawling a dose.Never have had a problem.The HCG will keep just fine.Don't let the B-water lull you into thinking it is the only dilutient that can be used safely.It seems that some think the HCG will spoil with sterile water.Of course one must make their own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol into my muscles. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not disputing that some of test C has benzl alcohol in it.Mine is compounded by my Pharamcist under a laminar flow and is preservative free (No benzyl alcohol).I was just stressing that the added benzyl alcohol will not prevent contamination.Bacteria will still grow if introduced,although at a slower rate.Care to keep it free from contamination is the key.No different from IV fluids.The HCG will deteroriate over time and lose potency as well as the test,with or without BA.You contaminate either one then you have a problem.Phil > > Test Cyp has BA in it so you are injecting alcohol into your muscle if you are > on TRT. > > > > ________________________________ > From: phil <phildude43@...> > > Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:29:34 PM > Subject: Bacteriostatic water and HCG > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing HCG.The only difference between B-staic > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has been added.Both are sterile to begin > with and both can be contaminated.I use sterile sodium chloride without benzyl > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate it, using only new sterile needles > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol alcohol before withdrawling a dose.Never > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just fine.Don't let the B-water lull you > into thinking it is the only dilutient that can be used safely.It seems that > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile water.Of course one must make their > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol into my muscles. > Phil > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 I just sent my prescription to the RX for HCG. My Dr said that it will come in a vile just like the Test C does and I will use a syringe to inject it. She didn't say anything about Bacteriostatic water and when I asked about it she said for me to just use the HCG the way it comes. The dose will be 500iu every Mon, Wed, and Fri. Any comments? They also changed my Test C injections from 200mg every 10 days to 100mg every 10 days. I also asked about every 5 days and they said no. I did have more blood work today and will get the results next week and have been scheduled for more blood work in 30 days. Bacteriostatic water and HCG > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing HCG.The only difference between B-staic > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has been added.Both are sterile to begin > with and both can be contaminated.I use sterile sodium chloride without benzyl > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate it, using only new sterile needles > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol alcohol before withdrawling a dose.Never > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just fine.Don't let the B-water lull you > into thinking it is the only dilutient that can be used safely.It seems that > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile water.Of course one must make their > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol into my muscles. > Phil > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 I am hearing that there are some brands of HCG that come pre mixed don't know much about this and how long it will last. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Pryor <j.pryor@...> > Subject: RE: Bacteriostatic water and HCG > " ' ' " < > > Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 12:46 PM > I just sent my prescription to the RX > for HCG. > > My Dr said that it will come in a vile just like the Test C > does and I will use a syringe to inject it. She didn't say > anything about Bacteriostatic water and when I asked about > it she said for me to just use the HCG the way it comes. The > dose will be 500iu every Mon, Wed, and Fri. Any comments? > > They also changed my Test C injections from 200mg every 10 > days to 100mg every 10 days. I also asked about every 5 days > and they said no. I did have more blood work today and will > get the results next week and have been scheduled for more > blood work in 30 days. > > > > Bacteriostatic water and HCG > > > > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing HCG.The only > difference between B-staic > > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has been > added.Both are sterile to begin > > with and both can be contaminated.I use sterile sodium > chloride without benzyl > > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate it, using > only new sterile needles > > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol alcohol before > withdrawling a dose.Never > > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just fine.Don't > let the B-water lull you > > into thinking it is the only dilutient that can be > used safely.It seems that > > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile water.Of > course one must make their > > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol into my > muscles. > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 The pharmacist said it would last several months. The regular cost is $114 and they are checking my insurance to see if if will pay anything. Bacteriostatic water and HCG > > > > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing HCG.The only > difference between B-staic > > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has been > added.Both are sterile to begin > > with and both can be contaminated.I use sterile sodium > chloride without benzyl > > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate it, using > only new sterile needles > > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol alcohol before > withdrawling a dose.Never > > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just fine.Don't > let the B-water lull you > > into thinking it is the only dilutient that can be > used safely.It seems that > > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile water.Of > course one must make their > > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol into my > muscles. > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Thats probably the novarel brand you can probably get pregnyl for half the price. > > > > > > Test Cyp has BA in it so you are injecting alcohol > > into your muscle if you are > > > on TRT. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: phil <phildude43@> > > > To: <mailto: %40><mailto:hyp\ ogonadism2%40> > > > Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:29:34 PM > > > Subject: Bacteriostatic water and HCG > > > > > > > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing HCG.The only > > difference between B-staic > > > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has been > > added.Both are sterile to begin > > > with and both can be contaminated.I use sterile sodium > > chloride without benzyl > > > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate it, using > > only new sterile needles > > > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol alcohol before > > withdrawling a dose.Never > > > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just fine.Don't > > let the B-water lull you > > > into thinking it is the only dilutient that can be > > used safely.It seems that > > > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile water.Of > > course one must make their > > > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol into my > > muscles. > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Did he say or do you know the name of it. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Pryor < j.pryor@...<mailto:j.pryor%40americantilesupply.com>> > > Subject: RE: Bacteriostatic water and > HCG > > " ' <mailto:%27 %40>' " > < <mailto: %40>> > > Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 12:46 PM > > I just sent my prescription to the RX > > for HCG. > > > > My Dr said that it will come in a vile just like the > Test C > > does and I will use a syringe to inject it. She didn't > say > > anything about Bacteriostatic water and when I asked > about > > it she said for me to just use the HCG the way it > comes. The > > dose will be 500iu every Mon, Wed, and Fri. Any > comments? > > > > They also changed my Test C injections from 200mg > every 10 > > days to 100mg every 10 days. I also asked about every > 5 days > > and they said no. I did have more blood work today and > will > > get the results next week and have been scheduled for > more > > blood work in 30 days. > > > > > > > > Bacteriostatic water and > HCG > > > > > > > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing HCG.The > only > > difference between B-staic > > > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has been > > added.Both are sterile to begin > > > with and both can be contaminated.I use sterile > sodium > > chloride without benzyl > > > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate it, > using > > only new sterile needles > > > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol alcohol > before > > withdrawling a dose.Never > > > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just > fine.Don't > > let the B-water lull you > > > into thinking it is the only dilutient that can > be > > used safely.It seems that > > > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile > water.Of > > course one must make their > > > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol into > my > > muscles. > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 I use Novarel and it does not come pre-mixed that I know of and mixed it's only good 30 days in the fridge. Co-Moderator Phil > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Bacteriostatic water and HCG > > Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 2:03 PM > Thats probably the novarel brand you > can probably get pregnyl for half the price. > > > > > > > > > > Test Cyp has BA in it so you are injecting > alcohol > > > into your muscle if you are > > > > on TRT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: phil <phildude43@> > > > > To: <mailto: %40><mailto:hyp\ ogonadism2%40> > > > > Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:29:34 PM > > > > Subject: Bacteriostatic water > and HCG > > > > > > > > > > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing > HCG.The only > > > difference between B-staic > > > > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has > been > > > added.Both are sterile to begin > > > > with and both can be contaminated.I use > sterile sodium > > > chloride without benzyl > > > > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate > it, using > > > only new sterile needles > > > > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol > alcohol before > > > withdrawling a dose.Never > > > > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just > fine.Don't > > > let the B-water lull you > > > > into thinking it is the only dilutient that > can be > > > used safely.It seems that > > > > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile > water.Of > > > course one must make their > > > > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol > into my > > > muscles. > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Correct. pregnyl is good for 60 days and is half the price. http://www.drugstore.com/pharmacy/prices/drugprice.asp?ndc=00052031510 & trx=1Z500\ 6 > > > > > > > > > > Test Cyp has BA in it so you are injecting > > alcohol > > > > into your muscle if you are > > > > > on TRT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: phil <phildude43@> > > > > > To: <mailto: %40><mailto:hyp\ ogonadism2%40> > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:29:34 PM > > > > > Subject: Bacteriostatic water > > and HCG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing > > HCG.The only > > > > difference between B-staic > > > > > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has > > been > > > > added.Both are sterile to begin > > > > > with and both can be contaminated.I use > > sterile sodium > > > > chloride without benzyl > > > > > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate > > it, using > > > > only new sterile needles > > > > > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol > > alcohol before > > > > withdrawling a dose.Never > > > > > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just > > fine.Don't > > > > let the B-water lull you > > > > > into thinking it is the only dilutient that > > can be > > > > used safely.It seems that > > > > > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile > > water.Of > > > > course one must make their > > > > > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol > > into my > > > > muscles. > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 I don't know of an brand of HCG sold in the USA that is pre-mixed it's this what we are talking about pregnyl is not pre-mixed that I can see. Co-Moderator Phil > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Bacteriostatic water and HCG > > Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 2:12 PM > Correct. pregnyl is good for 60 days > and is half the price. > > http://www.drugstore.com/pharmacy/prices/drugprice.asp?ndc=00052031510 & trx=1Z500\ 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Test Cyp has BA in it so you are > injecting > > > alcohol > > > > > into your muscle if you are > > > > > > on TRT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: phil <phildude43@> > > > > > > To: <mailto: %40><mailto:hyp\ ogonadism2%40> > > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:29:34 > PM > > > > > > Subject: > Bacteriostatic water > > > and HCG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have seen numerous posts about > mixing > > > HCG.The only > > > > > difference between B-staic > > > > > > and sterile water is benzyl > alcohol has > > > been > > > > > added.Both are sterile to begin > > > > > > with and both can be > contaminated.I use > > > sterile sodium > > > > > chloride without benzyl > > > > > > alcohol.I am very careful not to > contamidate > > > it, using > > > > > only new sterile needles > > > > > > and swabbing the stopper with > isoprprol > > > alcohol before > > > > > withdrawling a dose.Never > > > > > > have had a problem.The HCG will > keep just > > > fine.Don't > > > > > let the B-water lull you > > > > > > into thinking it is the only > dilutient that > > > can be > > > > > used safely.It seems that > > > > > > some think the HCG will spoil with > sterile > > > water.Of > > > > > course one must make their > > > > > > own decisions.I prefer not to > inject alcohol > > > into my > > > > > muscles. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message > have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 No, but will let you know when I get it. They told me it would take about a week for the dr to call in to the insurance and the insurance to approve it or not and let the Rx know. Bacteriostatic water and > HCG > > > > > > > > > Have seen numerous posts about mixing HCG.The > only > > difference between B-staic > > > and sterile water is benzyl alcohol has been > > added.Both are sterile to begin > > > with and both can be contaminated.I use sterile > sodium > > chloride without benzyl > > > alcohol.I am very careful not to contamidate it, > using > > only new sterile needles > > > and swabbing the stopper with isoprprol alcohol > before > > withdrawling a dose.Never > > > have had a problem.The HCG will keep just > fine.Don't > > let the B-water lull you > > > into thinking it is the only dilutient that can > be > > used safely.It seems that > > > some think the HCG will spoil with sterile > water.Of > > course one must make their > > > own decisions.I prefer not to inject alcohol into > my > > muscles. > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 You can get it for about $12 from ADC plus shipping. Brett RE: Bacteriostatic water and HCG > The pharmacist said it would last several months. The regular cost is $114 > and they are checking my insurance to see if if will pay anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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