Re: Review of Dr. O and Hard

[Guest guest]

Phil thank you for the post it helps and I am so happy your doing so good this

is great.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: phil nicolaou <ifpacpt@...>

> Subject: Review of Dr. O and Hard

>

> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 12:23 PM

> Hi,

> I wanted to follow up with another review for Dr. Overbeck

> and Hardasnails...

> im Phil, 31, live in suburbs of philadelphia. Not far from

> Dr. O and hard.

>

> I had written before and was pleased with their

> expertise..

>

> It has now been several months since my initial visit with

> Dr O and Hard ..

>

> I wanted to follow up with initial review with their recent

> findings.

> they apparently narrowed down my test issue to being a

> cause of a daily

> consumption of dairy!

>

> Hard had me cut out dairy, and gave me a clomid trial. My

> test levels shot up to

> the normal range for a 31 yr male.

>

> The impressive finding was that my test levels remained

> high AFTER stopping

> clomid, which if I remember and understood dr o and hard

> correctly, shows that

> my body was being hindered in test produiction and it

> capable of producing a

> healthy amount of test with out the need for meds..

>

> i could be reading the labs wrong but the test levels went

> up to 500 something

> and stayued there without the help of clomid..

>

> I feel MUCH better, am sleeping better and am overall in a

> heightened mood since

> cutitng out dairy.

>

> So much for the endo, she would have had me on androgel

> without REALLy

> investigating why my body does that.

> I want to write a review about her and WARN other men my

> age to NOT GO SEE

> ENDOS..

> Instead CALL DR o and HARD!

>

> It was a decision I was reluctant to make, but am not glad

> I did..

>

> cutting out dairy is a small price to pay to feel better

> each day!

> and almond milk isnt that bad..i actually like it1

>

>

> so if you are a low test male in the phila area..go see

> these guys..hopefully

> your insurance will pay for it..mind did NOT..but I didnt

> it anyway..

>

> dont waste your time with endos..I saw 3 of them and

> neither of them bothered to

> look closely at my diet!

>

>

> Sincerely,

> phil Nicolaou

>

>

>      

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Nobody believed me when I kept telling them how bad I felt, labs kept coming

back " unremarkable " so they said I was depressed, I was, if fact near

suicide at times, I just didn't want to wake up every day feeling so bad, I

was a mess for over ten years maybe 15 had to sell up my business and stay

at home, even the wife didn't believe me, which was sad but also caused a

lot of friction, I still find it hard to believe that such and innocent food

item such as Dairy, could have caused me so much pain, I'm feeling much

better now and even my Libido is improving gradually, I'm not fixed

completely yet, but can now just keep chipping away. So glad they found out

the problem for you, good luck, Tim

On 8 July 2010 17:23, phil nicolaou <ifpacpt@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

> I wanted to follow up with another review for Dr. Overbeck and

> Hardasnails...

> im Phil, 31, live in suburbs of philadelphia. Not far from Dr. O and hard.

>

> I had written before and was pleased with their expertise..

>

> It has now been several months since my initial visit with Dr O and Hard ..

>

> I wanted to follow up with initial review with their recent findings.

> they apparently narrowed down my test issue to being a cause of a daily

> consumption of dairy!

>

> Hard had me cut out dairy, and gave me a clomid trial. My test levels shot

> up to

> the normal range for a 31 yr male.

>

> The impressive finding was that my test levels remained high AFTER stopping

>

> clomid, which if I remember and understood dr o and hard correctly, shows

> that

> my body was being hindered in test produiction and it capable of producing

> a

> healthy amount of test with out the need for meds..

>

> i could be reading the labs wrong but the test levels went up to 500

> something

> and stayued there without the help of clomid..

>

> I feel MUCH better, am sleeping better and am overall in a heightened mood

> since

> cutitng out dairy.

>

> So much for the endo, she would have had me on androgel without REALLy

> investigating why my body does that.

> I want to write a review about her and WARN other men my age to NOT GO SEE

> ENDOS..

> Instead CALL DR o and HARD!

>

> It was a decision I was reluctant to make, but am not glad I did..

>

> cutting out dairy is a small price to pay to feel better each day!

> and almond milk isnt that bad..i actually like it1

>

> so if you are a low test male in the phila area..go see these

> guys..hopefully

> your insurance will pay for it..mind did NOT..but I didnt it anyway..

>

> dont waste your time with endos..I saw 3 of them and neither of them

> bothered to

> look closely at my diet!

>

> Sincerely,

> phil Nicolaou

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tim thanks for the update and it's great your doing better. Your story is much

like mine my Dr.'s told my family and work I was suffering from Depression and

did not want to get better after being treated for 5 yrs. In my case it was low

Testosterone not Depression. I had to sue my work they locked me out of work

coming back from sick leave I won but ended up having to take an Early

Retirement. The way my wife treated me was so bad we broke up then when I found

out I have low Testosterone she wanted to come back we are still together but

it's not the same.

It's a long hard road we go down but we should never give up.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > I wanted to follow up with another review for Dr.

> Overbeck and

> > Hardasnails...

> > im Phil, 31, live in suburbs of philadelphia. Not far

> from Dr. O and hard.

> >

> > I had written before and was pleased with their

> expertise..

> >

> > It has now been several months since my initial visit

> with Dr O and Hard ..

> >

> > I wanted to follow up with initial review with their

> recent findings.

> > they apparently narrowed down my test issue to being a

> cause of a daily

> > consumption of dairy!

> >

> > Hard had me cut out dairy, and gave me a clomid trial.

> My test levels shot

> > up to

> > the normal range for a 31 yr male.

> >

> > The impressive finding was that my test levels

> remained high AFTER stopping

> >

> > clomid, which if I remember and understood dr o and

> hard correctly, shows

> > that

> > my body was being hindered in test produiction and it

> capable of producing

> > a

> > healthy amount of test with out the need for meds..

> >

> > i could be reading the labs wrong but the test levels

> went up to 500

> > something

> > and stayued there without the help of clomid..

> >

> > I feel MUCH better, am sleeping better and am overall

> in a heightened mood

> > since

> > cutitng out dairy.

> >

> > So much for the endo, she would have had me on

> androgel without REALLy

> > investigating why my body does that.

> > I want to write a review about her and WARN other men

> my age to NOT GO SEE

> > ENDOS..

> > Instead CALL DR o and HARD!

> >

> > It was a decision I was reluctant to make, but am not

> glad I did..

> >

> > cutting out dairy is a small price to pay to feel

> better each day!

> > and almond milk isnt that bad..i actually like it1

> >

> > so if you are a low test male in the phila area..go

> see these

> > guys..hopefully

> > your insurance will pay for it..mind did NOT..but I

> didnt it anyway..

> >

> > dont waste your time with endos..I saw 3 of them and

> neither of them

> > bothered to

> > look closely at my diet!

> >

> > Sincerely,

> > phil Nicolaou

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil,

The most stupid thing is that when my lurcher(dog) used to get sick, I would

put him on a fast for 24 hrs then boiled rice and chicken for a few day's,

it always worked for him, shame i didn't think to do it for myself ! Phil I

know what you have been through with the wife etc, or at least I can relate,

lucky for me mine stayed and supported me, it was a long hard slog, hope she

comes round mate, and realises it was out of your hands, be lucky, Tim.

On 9 July 2010 14:52, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

>

> Tim thanks for the update and it's great your doing better. Your story is

> much like mine my Dr.'s told my family and work I was suffering from

> Depression and did not want to get better after being treated for 5 yrs. In

> my case it was low Testosterone not Depression. I had to sue my work they

> locked me out of work coming back from sick leave I won but ended up having

> to take an Early Retirement. The way my wife treated me was so bad we broke

> up then when I found out I have low Testosterone she wanted to come back we

> are still together but it's not the same.

>

> It's a long hard road we go down but we should never give up.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I wanted to follow up with another review for Dr.

> > Overbeck and

> > > Hardasnails...

> > > im Phil, 31, live in suburbs of philadelphia. Not far

> > from Dr. O and hard.

> > >

> > > I had written before and was pleased with their

> > expertise..

> > >

> > > It has now been several months since my initial visit

> > with Dr O and Hard ..

> > >

> > > I wanted to follow up with initial review with their

> > recent findings.

> > > they apparently narrowed down my test issue to being a

> > cause of a daily

> > > consumption of dairy!

> > >

> > > Hard had me cut out dairy, and gave me a clomid trial.

> > My test levels shot

> > > up to

> > > the normal range for a 31 yr male.

> > >

> > > The impressive finding was that my test levels

> > remained high AFTER stopping

> > >

> > > clomid, which if I remember and understood dr o and

> > hard correctly, shows

> > > that

> > > my body was being hindered in test produiction and it

> > capable of producing

> > > a

> > > healthy amount of test with out the need for meds..

> > >

> > > i could be reading the labs wrong but the test levels

> > went up to 500

> > > something

> > > and stayued there without the help of clomid..

> > >

> > > I feel MUCH better, am sleeping better and am overall

> > in a heightened mood

> > > since

> > > cutitng out dairy.

> > >

> > > So much for the endo, she would have had me on

> > androgel without REALLy

> > > investigating why my body does that.

> > > I want to write a review about her and WARN other men

> > my age to NOT GO SEE

> > > ENDOS..

> > > Instead CALL DR o and HARD!

> > >

> > > It was a decision I was reluctant to make, but am not

> > glad I did..

> > >

> > > cutting out dairy is a small price to pay to feel

> > better each day!

> > > and almond milk isnt that bad..i actually like it1

> > >

> > > so if you are a low test male in the phila area..go

> > see these

> > > guys..hopefully

> > > your insurance will pay for it..mind did NOT..but I

> > didnt it anyway..

> > >

> > > dont waste your time with endos..I saw 3 of them and

> > neither of them

> > > bothered to

> > > look closely at my diet!

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > > phil Nicolaou

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

We are good now she went through hell 20 months ago I ended up having Heart

Bypass Surgery and was in a coma 17 weeks died 5 x's and had to be opened up

again and again because of infections. I owe her my life she was there for me

24/7 week after week with my 2 Daughters. You can read my story and the Heart

Up Date at this link. When I came to in the Hosp. Dr.'s were coming to see the

guy that lived through this they all said I was a living miracle.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I wanted to follow up with another review

> for Dr.

> > > Overbeck and

> > > > Hardasnails...

> > > > im Phil, 31, live in suburbs of

> philadelphia. Not far

> > > from Dr. O and hard.

> > > >

> > > > I had written before and was pleased with

> their

> > > expertise..

> > > >

> > > > It has now been several months since my

> initial visit

> > > with Dr O and Hard ..

> > > >

> > > > I wanted to follow up with initial review

> with their

> > > recent findings.

> > > > they apparently narrowed down my test issue

> to being a

> > > cause of a daily

> > > > consumption of dairy!

> > > >

> > > > Hard had me cut out dairy, and gave me a

> clomid trial.

> > > My test levels shot

> > > > up to

> > > > the normal range for a 31 yr male.

> > > >

> > > > The impressive finding was that my test

> levels

> > > remained high AFTER stopping

> > > >

> > > > clomid, which if I remember and understood

> dr o and

> > > hard correctly, shows

> > > > that

> > > > my body was being hindered in test

> produiction and it

> > > capable of producing

> > > > a

> > > > healthy amount of test with out the need for

> meds..

> > > >

> > > > i could be reading the labs wrong but the

> test levels

> > > went up to 500

> > > > something

> > > > and stayued there without the help of

> clomid..

> > > >

> > > > I feel MUCH better, am sleeping better and

> am overall

> > > in a heightened mood

> > > > since

> > > > cutitng out dairy.

> > > >

> > > > So much for the endo, she would have had me

> on

> > > androgel without REALLy

> > > > investigating why my body does that.

> > > > I want to write a review about her and WARN

> other men

> > > my age to NOT GO SEE

> > > > ENDOS..

> > > > Instead CALL DR o and HARD!

> > > >

> > > > It was a decision I was reluctant to make,

> but am not

> > > glad I did..

> > > >

> > > > cutting out dairy is a small price to pay to

> feel

> > > better each day!

> > > > and almond milk isnt that bad..i actually

> like it1

> > > >

> > > > so if you are a low test male in the phila

> area..go

> > > see these

> > > > guys..hopefully

> > > > your insurance will pay for it..mind did

> NOT..but I

> > > didnt it anyway..

> > > >

> > > > dont waste your time with endos..I saw 3 of

> them and

> > > neither of them

> > > > bothered to

> > > > look closely at my diet!

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > > phil Nicolaou

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Thanks and Regards, Tim.

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

sounds like a good woman Phil, I also have one, but there must be so many of

us out there without that support, the help is here, but only thank.s to you

guy's, rock on,Tim

On 9 July 2010 21:07, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

>

> We are good now she went through hell 20 months ago I ended up having Heart

> Bypass Surgery and was in a coma 17 weeks died 5 x's and had to be opened up

> again and again because of infections. I owe her my life she was there for

> me 24/7 week after week with my 2 Daughters. You can read my story and the

> Heart Up Date at this link. When I came to in the Hosp. Dr.'s were coming to

> see the guy that lived through this they all said I was a living miracle.

> http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > I wanted to follow up with another review

> > for Dr.

> > > > Overbeck and

> > > > > Hardasnails...

> > > > > im Phil, 31, live in suburbs of

> > philadelphia. Not far

> > > > from Dr. O and hard.

> > > > >

> > > > > I had written before and was pleased with

> > their

> > > > expertise..

> > > > >

> > > > > It has now been several months since my

> > initial visit

> > > > with Dr O and Hard ..

> > > > >

> > > > > I wanted to follow up with initial review

> > with their

> > > > recent findings.

> > > > > they apparently narrowed down my test issue

> > to being a

> > > > cause of a daily

> > > > > consumption of dairy!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hard had me cut out dairy, and gave me a

> > clomid trial.

> > > > My test levels shot

> > > > > up to

> > > > > the normal range for a 31 yr male.

> > > > >

> > > > > The impressive finding was that my test

> > levels

> > > > remained high AFTER stopping

> > > > >

> > > > > clomid, which if I remember and understood

> > dr o and

> > > > hard correctly, shows

> > > > > that

> > > > > my body was being hindered in test

> > produiction and it

> > > > capable of producing

> > > > > a

> > > > > healthy amount of test with out the need for

> > meds..

> > > > >

> > > > > i could be reading the labs wrong but the

> > test levels

> > > > went up to 500

> > > > > something

> > > > > and stayued there without the help of

> > clomid..

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel MUCH better, am sleeping better and

> > am overall

> > > > in a heightened mood

> > > > > since

> > > > > cutitng out dairy.

> > > > >

> > > > > So much for the endo, she would have had me

> > on

> > > > androgel without REALLy

> > > > > investigating why my body does that.

> > > > > I want to write a review about her and WARN

> > other men

> > > > my age to NOT GO SEE

> > > > > ENDOS..

> > > > > Instead CALL DR o and HARD!

> > > > >

> > > > > It was a decision I was reluctant to make,

> > but am not

> > > > glad I did..

> > > > >

> > > > > cutting out dairy is a small price to pay to

> > feel

> > > > better each day!

> > > > > and almond milk isnt that bad..i actually

> > like it1

> > > > >

> > > > > so if you are a low test male in the phila

> > area..go

> > > > see these

> > > > > guys..hopefully

> > > > > your insurance will pay for it..mind did

> > NOT..but I

> > > > didnt it anyway..

> > > > >

> > > > > dont waste your time with endos..I saw 3 of

> > them and

> > > > neither of them

> > > > > bothered to

> > > > > look closely at my diet!

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > phil Nicolaou

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Thanks and Regards, Tim.

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Well she was not good when I first got sick and Dr.'s told us it's Major

Depression. She was on my ass all the time when I was so dam sick because of

them dam Dr.'s and there Bull crap when they don't know whats wrong with you

they tell you your Depressed. I don't think they know how much doing crap like

that mess's up ones life. If they don't know whats wrong just say I don't know.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > I wanted to follow up with another

> review

> > > for Dr.

> > > > > Overbeck and

> > > > > > Hardasnails...

> > > > > > im Phil, 31, live in suburbs of

> > > philadelphia. Not far

> > > > > from Dr. O and hard.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had written before and was

> pleased with

> > > their

> > > > > expertise..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It has now been several months

> since my

> > > initial visit

> > > > > with Dr O and Hard ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wanted to follow up with initial

> review

> > > with their

> > > > > recent findings.

> > > > > > they apparently narrowed down my

> test issue

> > > to being a

> > > > > cause of a daily

> > > > > > consumption of dairy!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hard had me cut out dairy, and

> gave me a

> > > clomid trial.

> > > > > My test levels shot

> > > > > > up to

> > > > > > the normal range for a 31 yr

> male.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The impressive finding was that my

> test

> > > levels

> > > > > remained high AFTER stopping

> > > > > >

> > > > > > clomid, which if I remember and

> understood

> > > dr o and

> > > > > hard correctly, shows

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > my body was being hindered in

> test

> > > produiction and it

> > > > > capable of producing

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > healthy amount of test with out

> the need for

> > > meds..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i could be reading the labs wrong

> but the

> > > test levels

> > > > > went up to 500

> > > > > > something

> > > > > > and stayued there without the help

> of

> > > clomid..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I feel MUCH better, am sleeping

> better and

> > > am overall

> > > > > in a heightened mood

> > > > > > since

> > > > > > cutitng out dairy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So much for the endo, she would

> have had me

> > > on

> > > > > androgel without REALLy

> > > > > > investigating why my body does

> that.

> > > > > > I want to write a review about her

> and WARN

> > > other men

> > > > > my age to NOT GO SEE

> > > > > > ENDOS..

> > > > > > Instead CALL DR o and HARD!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It was a decision I was reluctant

> to make,

> > > but am not

> > > > > glad I did..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > cutting out dairy is a small price

> to pay to

> > > feel

> > > > > better each day!

> > > > > > and almond milk isnt that bad..i

> actually

> > > like it1

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so if you are a low test male in

> the phila

> > > area..go

> > > > > see these

> > > > > > guys..hopefully

> > > > > > your insurance will pay for

> it..mind did

> > > NOT..but I

> > > > > didnt it anyway..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dont waste your time with endos..I

> saw 3 of

> > > them and

> > > > > neither of them

> > > > > > bothered to

> > > > > > look closely at my diet!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > > phil Nicolaou

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> have been

> > > removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Thanks and Regards, Tim.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >