Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 There are a couple explaination which I have seen in clincal setting 1. Hemmroids, Food allergies or gut imbalances causing low ferritin levels resulting in thyroid deficiency at the tissue level not allowing the from the blood to be utilized at the tissue causing the signal to lower TSH. 2. Low cortisol which should be ruled out with 24 hour adrenal cortisol salvia test. 3. When under stress the TSH could be all over the place due to alteration of the signal from pituitary gland 4. You need to isolate the source of the stress. Has there been any phyiscal trama (surgery or accident) or emotional trama with in the past 3-6 months? Rt3 once the stress is dealt with rt3 will return to normal. You may also have an iodine, iron, selenium, zinc deficeincy which can also raise rt3. This should help to shed some light on things. Trying to get a dr that does not practice functional medicine to except well that is a different story. > > Hi all, > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 year old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able to give some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but I was hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in advance. > > johnfromseattle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Doctor has me on pills to help pituitary gland. Iodine probably not an issue since I use plenty of Celtic sea salt and eat my share of meat. No physical trauma either other than enlarged prostate which has me up many times a night to urinate. Thank you for you input hardasnails, I know 100 percent more than I did before. Will keep the group posted as to what the doctor decides to do if anything. johnfromseattle ________________________________ From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 5:47:55 PM Subject: Re: High TSH and high rT3 There are a couple explaination which I have seen in clincal setting 1. Hemmroids, Food allergies or gut imbalances causing low ferritin levels resulting in thyroid deficiency at the tissue level not allowing the from the blood to be utilized at the tissue causing the signal to lower TSH. 2. Low cortisol which should be ruled out with 24 hour adrenal cortisol salvia test. 3. When under stress the TSH could be all over the place due to alteration of the signal from pituitary gland 4. You need to isolate the source of the stress. Has there been any phyiscal trama (surgery or accident) or emotional trama with in the past 3-6 months? Rt3 once the stress is dealt with rt3 will return to normal. You may also have an iodine, iron, selenium, zinc deficeincy which can also raise rt3. This should help to shed some light on things. Trying to get a dr that does not practice functional medicine to except well that is a different story. > > Hi all, > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 year >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able to give >some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but I was >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in advance. > > > johnfromseattle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 celtic seas salt is un iodized, meat contains barely any iodine so where every you got that information it is totally misleading. You need to seperate fact from bs on the internet. Most americans are iodine deficient sorry to inform you from running several hundred spot urines. I have alot of people showing up Nondectable and reconfirming with repeat analysis. > > > > Hi all, > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 year > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able to give > >some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > > > > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but I was > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Do you think it's safe for those with autoimmune thyroid disease to take iodine? You talk about BS on the internet. Well you must know there are two polar opposite opinions on iodine out there: Everyone's deficient and you need to take 50 mg Iodoral. No, you shouldn't take any at all, in fact avoid it, it'll make your Hashi's/Graves' worse. No, it's BECAUSE you've been avoiding it that you have Hashi's/Graves' in the first place. What? How does one know whom to believe? Barb " hardasnails1973 " <hardasnails1973@...> wrote: > > celtic seas salt is un iodized, meat contains barely any iodine so where every you got that information it is totally misleading. You need to seperate fact from bs on the internet. Most americans are iodine deficient sorry to inform you from running several hundred spot urines. I have alot of people showing up Nondectable and reconfirming with repeat analysis. > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 year > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able to give > > >some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but I was > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I know dr brownstein uses it, but with anything it is case and indivudal specific. I like to identify if the person is low on iodine by evaluating their eating patterns, symptoms, and if hypothyroid is present in them. You can do a spot test from quest or labcorp to get a good indication. The iodine loading test 24 hour is suppose the gold standard, but there are some physcian against it. When doing urinary hormone testing I look for certain factors that may indicate iodine deficeincy indirectly. If a person with hashimotos iodine defieincy is suspected and confirmed. the smallest amount of iodine is given as trial and patients response is monitered. With anykind of protocol go slow monitor the clincal response. > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 year > > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing > > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the > > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able to give > > > >some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > > > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > > > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but I was > > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 You said an iodine deficiency can cause high rT3. Even while a person's on a decent dose of thyroid meds? The thyroid meds have iodine. You mentioned iron and selenium as other causes of rT3 and I know those are involved in conversion. Is it because you need extra iodine, in addition to the thyroid hormone, for proper conversion? Barb > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 year > > > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing > > > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the > > > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able to give > > > > >some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > > > > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > > > > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but I was > > > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Can someone tell me if there any medicine to help me to increase my sperm? ________________________________ From: Barb <baba@...> Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 11:12:50 AM Subject: Re: High TSH and high rT3  You said an iodine deficiency can cause high rT3. Even while a person's on a decent dose of thyroid meds? The thyroid meds have iodine. You mentioned iron and selenium as other causes of rT3 and I know those are involved in conversion. Is it because you need extra iodine, in addition to the thyroid hormone, for proper conversion? Barb > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 >year > > > > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my >ongoing > > > > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to >understand the > > > > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able >to give > > > > > >some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > > > > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > > > > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but >I was > > > > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in >advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Hi , I am sure your Dr. will treat your Thyroid don't get to upset about your RT3 being high. Your FT3 and FT4 levels don't look to me like RT3 is your problem. I am going to give you some links to read that will help you understand about your Thyroid. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ In this link it about that labs you need. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/ This link tells you how RT3 works. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/reverse-T3/ In this link if you later need to get your RT3 down to me this is a safe way to do it. Here are some supplements you can take to help your Throid work better. A cut and past from this link. http://www.custommedicine.com.au/health-articles/reverse-t3-dominance/ =================================================== selenium, zinc, chromium, Vit B6 and B12, iron, Vit D and iodine as they are all required by the 5-deiodinase enzyme responsible for proper T3 production while the chromium helps control insulin resistance which can also impeed conversion. Adrenals are also addressed to make sure both DHEA and cortisol levels are within the optimal range to ensure they are not affecting conversion. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Noe <jnoe9769@...> > Subject: High TSH and high rT3 > > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 4:13 PM > Hi all, > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 > months now. 53 year old male and I had my thyroid checked > about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing checkups to see how > my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the > results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum > would be able to give some advice as to what is happening > and what if anything should be done. > > Test    Result  Abnormal > Result   Reference Range > TSH    3.22 uIU/mL >    Yes-High     > 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > FT4    1.1 ng/dl   >         >    0.89-1.76 > FT3    2.8 pg/mL   >         >    1.8-3.9 pg/mL > rT3    23.08 ng/dL >    Yes-High     > 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on > Wednesday but I was hoping to get the jump on this so I can > have some input. Thanks in advance. > > johnfromseattle   > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Those nutrient are needed for proper conversion from t4 to t3. One has to be careful of iodine because it will deplete ferritin levels. There has to be a properly balance so the nutrients work synergistically. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 year > > > > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing > > > > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the > > > > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able to give > > > > > >some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > > > > > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > > > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > > > > > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > > > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but I was > > > > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 do test your Estraidol levels mine were very high getting them down my Prostate when down in time and it's not a problem anymore for me. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Noe <jnoe9769@...> > Subject: Re: Re: High TSH and high rT3 > > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 9:59 PM > Doctor has me on pills to help > pituitary gland. Iodine probably not an issue > since I use plenty of Celtic sea salt and eat my share of > meat. No physical > trauma either other than enlarged prostate which has me up > many times a night to > urinate. > Thank you for you input hardasnails, I know 100 percent > more than I did before. > Will keep the group posted as to what the doctor decides to > do if anything. > > johnfromseattle > > > > ________________________________ > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > > Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 5:47:55 PM > Subject: Re: High TSH and high rT3 > >    > There are a couple explaination which I have seen in > clincal setting > 1. Hemmroids, Food allergies or gut imbalances causing low > ferritin levels > resulting in thyroid deficiency at the tissue level not > allowing the from the > blood to be utilized at the tissue causing the signal to > lower TSH. > > 2. Low cortisol which should be ruled out with 24 hour > adrenal cortisol salvia > test. > > 3. When under stress the TSH could be all over the place > due to alteration of > the signal from pituitary gland > > 4. You need to isolate the source of the stress. Has there > been any phyiscal > trama (surgery or accident) or emotional trama with in the > past 3-6 months? Rt3 > once the stress is dealt with rt3 will return to > normal. You may also have an > iodine, iron, selenium, zinc deficeincy which can also > raise rt3. > > > This should help to shed some light on things. Trying to > get a dr that does not > practice functional medicine to except well that is a > different story. > > > > > > > Hi all, > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about > 3 months now. 53 year > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago > as part of my ongoing > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a > loss to understand the > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat > forum would be able to give > >some advice as to what is happening and what if > anything should be done. > > > > > > Test    Result  > Abnormal Result   Reference Range > > TSH    3.22 uIU/mL >    Yes-High     > 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > FT4    1.1 ng/dl  >         >     0.89-1.76 > > FT3    2.8 pg/mL  >         >     1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > rT3    23.08 ng/dL >    Yes-High     > 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings > on Wednesday but I was > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some > input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > >    > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 And this brings another question from me! ) Can being low on iodine cause high ferritin since you are saying that adding iodine can deplete it? As you know mine is high. > > Those nutrient are needed for proper conversion from t4 to t3. > One has to be careful of iodine because it will deplete ferritin levels. There has to be a properly balance so the nutrients work synergistically. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 high ferritin is usually from an acute infection or hemochromatosis which needs to be ruled out. Hyperthyhroid or graves disease can also be responsible for this as well. These conditions need to be ruled out by your primary dr. Theortically iodine can chelate certain metals and iron just may be one of them. The pathology of why ferritin elevated needs to be examined. In some people I have counseled with hemochromatosis balancing the liver was able to stabilize this when no cause was found. Remember with nutrients too much of one can depelete another. > > > > Those nutrient are needed for proper conversion from t4 to t3. > > One has to be careful of iodine because it will deplete ferritin levels. There has to be a properly balance so the nutrients work synergistically. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 How does one tell if they have hemochromatosis? Does anything on a standard blood test show it. > > high ferritin is usually from an acute infection or hemochromatosis which needs to be ruled out. Hyperthyhroid or graves disease can also be responsible for this as well. These conditions need to be ruled out by your primary dr. Theortically iodine can chelate certain metals and iron just may be one of them. The pathology of why ferritin elevated needs to be examined. In some people I have counseled with hemochromatosis balancing the liver was able to stabilize this when no cause was found. Remember with nutrients too much of one can depelete another. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Iodine depletes ferritin? Wow, I've never heard of that. How does that work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 year > > > > > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my ongoing > > > > > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am at a loss to understand the > > > > > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this chat forum would be able to give > > > > > > >some advice as to what is happening and what if anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Test Result Abnormal Result Reference Range > > > > > > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > > > > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > > > > > > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > > > > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these readings on Wednesday but I was > > > > > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I don't use Celtic Sea Salt cost is to mich and I do take Iodoral (12.5 mg)everyday read this link and here is a link to the Sea Salt I use I mix a 1/2 tsp in my 27oz canteen of water each time I fill it with filtered water. http://iodine4health.com/overviews/audiovisual/flechas_audiovisual.htm http://tinyurl.com/yky2mpn Co-Moderator Phil > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > Subject: Re: High TSH and high rT3 > > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 10:20 PM > celtic seas salt is un iodized, meat > contains barely any iodine so where every you got that > information it is totally misleading. You need to > seperate fact from bs on the internet. Most americans are > iodine deficient sorry to inform you from running several > hundred spot urines. I have alot of people showing up > Nondectable and reconfirming with repeat analysis. > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for > about 3 months now. 53 year > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 > weeks ago as part of my ongoing > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am > at a loss to understand the > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this > chat forum would be able to give > > >some advice as to what is happening and what if > anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > Test    Result  > Abnormal Result   Reference Range > > > TSH    3.22 uIU/mL >    Yes-High     > 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > FT4    1.1 ng/dl >         >      0.89-1.76 > > > FT3    2.8 pg/mL >         >      1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > rT3    23.08 ng/dL >    Yes-High     > 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these > readings on Wednesday but I was > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some > input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >     > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Good point I have read this both ways some say iodine is good for Hashi's others say no. Yet I know people with Hashi's taking iodine. I think one needs to test this first if your low try it. I tested low. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > celtic seas salt is un iodized, meat contains barely > any iodine so where every you got that information it is > totally misleading. You need to seperate fact from bs > on the internet. Most americans are iodine deficient sorry > to inform you from running several hundred spot urines. I > have alot of people showing up Nondectable and reconfirming > with repeat analysis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA > for about 3 months now. 53 year > > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 > weeks ago as part of my ongoing > > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As > I am at a loss to understand the > > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in > this chat forum would be able to give > > > >some advice as to what is happening and what > if anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Test    Result >  Abnormal Result   Reference Range > > > > TSH    3.22 > uIU/mL    Yes-High   >   0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > > FT4    1.1 ng/dl >         >      0.89-1.76 > > > > FT3    2.8 pg/mL >         >      1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > > rT3    23.08 > ng/dL    Yes-High   >   6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about > these readings on Wednesday but I was > > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have > some input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >     > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 There are supplements if your on TRT keep levels good were you feel good. And keep track of your Estradiol, Cortisol and Thyroid levels. And drink a lot of water. ================================================== Nutrition plays a great role in determining both the content and volume of your ejaculate. Naturally, a balanced diet is essential for good sexual health, but the vitamins, minerals and supplements listed below can have a dramatic effect on the volume of ejaculate your body produces. The supplement L-Arginine is an amino acid the body uses for a variety of important chemical and cellular processes. . .it is also believed to help you produce more volume of ejaculate. 500mg daily and (this is important...) 1,000mg 30-40 minutes prior to sexual activity. Like all natural supplements, you must be patient and allow your body's " storehouse " to build-up. This period takes anywhere from 2-4 weeks depending upon the individuals baseline health and metabolic rate. Zinc - One of the nutrients most critical for prostate health. The prostate needs 10 times more zinc than any other organ in the body. It is vital for preventing prostate problems. Unfortunately, 90% of men consume diets deficient in Zinc because most of our food is processed. Irving Bush and Associates at Chicago's Cook County Hospital tested the effectiveness of Zinc supplementation on men with prostate problems. All patients reported symptomatic improvement while almost 80% had palpable shrinkage of the prostate gland. RDA is 15 mg...we recommend 45 mg per day. Lycopene - is a natural anti-oxident that is prevalent in tomatoes. Recent studies show it to have roughly twice the power of Beta-Carotene and 10 times the strength of Vitamin E, when it comes to protecting and healing our bodies from the damage of free radicals which are the cancer precursors. In fact, free radicals are now considered to be one of the main causes of disease and aging. In a process known as oxidation, they accelerate the breakdown of our cell's structure, thereby damaging the DNA and weakening our immune system. A four year study at Harvard University set out to see whether the five major antioxidants found in fruits and vegetables would have any beneficial effect on prostate cancer. Of the five, only Lycopene was found to have a direct link. They found that of the 50,000 healthy males studied, those who ate at least 10 servings of tomatoes or tomato based products per week were 33% less likely to develop prostate complications than those who never ate them. Researchers concluded that the active antioxidant in tomatoes, Lycopene, significantly reduced the risk of prostate difficulties and improved its function. We recommend 10-12 servings of tomatoes or tomato based foods per week. Do not use or ingest if allergic. Beta-Sitosterol - is another nutrient that may benefit men with prostate problems. One double blind study of 100 men showed that Beta-Sitosterol taken over a six month period improved urine flow, reduced the size of the prostate and led to subjective feelings of improvement. Niacin - is important for many cellular processes. Supplementation with extra niacin in your diet will promote increased blood flow to all parts of your body. .. .including the scrotum and testicles. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Arnoldo . Parada <joar64@...> > Subject: Re: Re: High TSH and high rT3 > > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 11:15 AM > Can someone tell me if there any > medicine to help me to increase my sperm? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Barb <baba@...> > > Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 11:12:50 AM > Subject: Re: High TSH and high rT3 > > Â > You said an iodine deficiency can cause high rT3. Even > while a person's on a > decent dose of thyroid meds? The thyroid meds have iodine. > You mentioned iron > and selenium as other causes of rT3 and I know those are > involved in conversion. > Is it because you need extra iodine, in addition to the > thyroid hormone, for > proper conversion? > > Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have been on HRT for > testosterone and DHEA for about 3 months now. 53 > >year > > > > > > > >old male and I had my thyroid > checked about 2 weeks ago as part of my > >ongoing > > > > > > > >checkups to see how my body is > adjusting. As I am at a loss to > >understand the > > > > > > > >results of my lab I was hoping > someone in this chat forum would be able > >to give > > > > > > > >some advice as to what is happening > and what if anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Test Result Abnormal Result > Reference Range > > > > > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL Yes-High 0.25-3.0 > ulU/mL. > > > > > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl 0.89-1.76 > > > > > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > > > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL Yes-High 6.7-21.8 > ng/dL > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor > about these readings on Wednesday but > >I was > > > > > > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I > can have some input. Thanks in > >advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â Â Â > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Phil, you can get a 5 lb bag of celtic for only $22.95 at Amazon. You are paying $42.90 for 5 lbs! http://www.amazon.com/Celtic-Sea-Salt%C2%AE-Brand-Celtic%C2%AE/dp/B000TI\ ZP5I/ref=sr_1_3?s=grocery & ie=UTF8 & qid=1294770091 & sr=1-3 > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have been on HRT for testosterone and DHEA for > > about 3 months now. 53 year > > > >old male and I had my thyroid checked about 2 > > weeks ago as part of my ongoing > > > >checkups to see how my body is adjusting. As I am > > at a loss to understand the > > > >results of my lab I was hoping someone in this > > chat forum would be able to give > > > >some advice as to what is happening and what if > > anything should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Test Result > > Abnormal Result Reference Range > > > > TSH 3.22 uIU/mL > > Yes-High > > 0.25-3.0 ulU/mL. > > > > FT4 1.1 ng/dl > > > > 0.89-1.76 > > > > FT3 2.8 pg/mL > > > > 1.8-3.9 pg/mL > > > > rT3 23.08 ng/dL > > Yes-High > > 6.7-21.8 ng/dL > > > > > > > > I will be speaking with my doctor about these > > readings on Wednesday but I was > > > >hoping to get the jump on this so I can have some > > input. Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > johnfromseattle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Going to reply to my own post! I just did some reading on hemochromatosis and I may have just found the reason for a lot of my problems. Most of the symptoms jive perfectly with what is happening to me, and I am also right in the normal age that this stuff finally comes to light. Also of the 'heritage' that has a 1 in 3000 chance of having this condition. I am going to see my cardiologist this evening and will be bringing this up big time. Gee,.....sudden onset of tachycardia is another result of this. I want to confirm or rule this out for certain. All of my iron tests in the high part of the upper third of normal, and two consecutive ferritin tests. First one 512,....second one 551 about three months apart. > > > > high ferritin is usually from an acute infection or hemochromatosis which needs to be ruled out. Hyperthyhroid or graves disease can also be responsible for this as well. These conditions need to be ruled out by your primary dr. Theortically iodine can chelate certain metals and iron just may be one of them. The pathology of why ferritin elevated needs to be examined. In some people I have counseled with hemochromatosis balancing the liver was able to stabilize this when no cause was found. Remember with nutrients too much of one can depelete another. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Is this 5 lb. bag fine Sea Salt I will check this out. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Barb <baba@...> > Subject: Re: High TSH and high rT3 > > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 1:25 PM > Phil, you can get a 5 lb bag of > celtic for only $22.95 at Amazon. You > are paying $42.90 for 5 lbs! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Its can be a malfunctioning gene which they can verify through testing. > > > > > > high ferritin is usually from an acute infection or hemochromatosis which needs to be ruled out. Hyperthyhroid or graves disease can also be responsible for this as well. These conditions need to be ruled out by your primary dr. Theortically iodine can chelate certain metals and iron just may be one of them. The pathology of why ferritin elevated needs to be examined. In some people I have counseled with hemochromatosis balancing the liver was able to stabilize this when no cause was found. Remember with nutrients too much of one can depelete another. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 No, coarse, but it is celtic! > > > From: Barb <baba@...> > > Subject: Re: High TSH and high rT3 > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 1:25 PM > > Phil, you can get a 5 lb bag of > > celtic for only $22.95 at Amazon. You > > are paying $42.90 for 5 lbs! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Is that test known as the 'HFE Gene Test' that I read about? I also saw something called serum transferrin saturation test listed beyond what I have already done. While this might not be my issue, it is certainly worth checking out thoroughly as the stuff can kill you if you don't do anything about it. Good outcomes seem to depend upon finding it out before serious damage has been done. > > > Its can be a malfunctioning gene which they can verify through testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Same stuff I use Barb,.....also the same source! ) I found it last time I needed some. > > No, coarse, but it is celtic! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 yes it is > > > > > > Its can be a malfunctioning gene which they can verify through testing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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