Guest guest Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Kim his labs look good but his Estradiol levels are on the high side not bad but if he does not get good night time and morning involuntary nocturnal erections appear that during REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep. This for most of us men means his Estradiol is to high try some Arimidex .25 mgs every 3 days to get this down. Have his Dr. call the Inc. Co. and tell them he needs HCG for Hypogonadism not for making a baby it should then be covered. Are you saying your upping is Thyroid meds one gr. this is to much for someone with bad Adrenals try 15 mgs to 30 mgs then hold this 8 weeks do labs see how his Free T3 looks and go by how he feels. I keep track of this by taking my temps read about it in this link and print out the chart to keep track of all this from the link in this link. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=24 Have you ever tested his Ferritin levels people with a problem like his end up low do to Thyroid and need Iron pills. Here is a copy of a file I made about Arimidex. ================================ How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low. What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs. The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it. Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs. I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up. I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days. So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days. I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need ..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days. So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel. Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you can't get his Dr. to give him Arimidex then try this. ============================================== ALL ABOUT DIM. Sure here is a few links that are all about it. But there are a lot of Co.'s out there selling DIM that don't work well. Indolplex/DIM is the best it dose not get killed in your stomach when you take it. Diindolylmethane (DIM) is a stable indole found in cruciferous vegetables which promotes a beneficial estrogen metabolism in both women and men. http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm in this link it's full of links about it. http://qualitycounts.com/fpdim.html http://www.jbc.org/content/278/23/21136.full If you have DIM in caps it's not Indolplex so to take this and to get it to work open the cap pore the DIM into a spoon add some Olive oil and take it this helps to keep it from getting killed in your stomach. The following is some links to where you can buy Indolplex/DIM. http://www.vitaglo.com/e5336.html http://www.vitacost.com/EnzymaticTherapyEstroBalancewithDIM/searchby-PN/searchte\ xt-dim http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0 http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0 http://www.estrobalance.net/ http://www.easyhealthzone.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PP0108 & click=71 http://www.nbizz.com/longevityclinic/listings/213.html http://www.drugnatural.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD & Store_Code=DMOS & Product_\ Code=156497 http://www.smartbomb.com/itindo9.html?utm_source=mercent & utm_medium=shopcompare & \ utm_content=itindo9 & utm_campaign=mbsdb & mr:trackingCode=C6AEFBD1-E681-DE11-B7F3-0\ 019B9C043EB & mr:referralID=NA http://www.ritecare.com/cgi-bin/cart.pl?db=product_db.dat & category=natural+medic\ ine & method=any_words & search=iti-75336 http://www.naturamart.com/phytopharmica-pms-formula-with-indoplex-120-caps.html How to take Indolplex/DIM take one tablet 120 mgs at dinner time it can take 2 weeks to 2 months to get your Estradiol levels down it’s all about how high you are in your levels. What you need to do is get this down to about 20 pg/ml. When you get this low your night time and morning wood will come back so strong it will wake you up this means most of the time your at your best levels or what I call the sweet spot. Keep taking the DIM but if your wood stops your going down to low so just stop taking it. The day your wood comes back go back on the DIM but cut the tablet in half. If your Testosterone was tested and low but your not on TRT get it tested again you might find your levels came up some 200 to 300 points. http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174 Co-Moderator Phil > From: Kim <kimhssbrk@...> > Subject: Husband's latest labs > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 10:02 PM > My husband was able to get labs done > last week and I would like to make sure you still think your > prior comments would still apply. > Meds: > Cortef 30 mgs > Nature throid 2 gr > Cytomel 25 mcg > Testosterone Cyp 300 mgs biwkly (after prior discussion he > will be switching to 150 mgs wkly > DHEA 50 mg BID > > His labs > DHEA-S 480 (range 95-530) > TT 938 (285-950) > FT 194 (50-247) > Test % free 2.1 (1.8 - 3.2) > Sex bind glob 37 (10 - 74) > Estradiol TMS 36.6 (10 - 42) > RT3 80 (90 - 350) > FT3 2.8 (2.5 - 3.9)FT4 0.5 (0.6 - > 1.5) > TSH 0.13 (0.50 - 5.00) > > > We have an RX for HCG (just was denied by ins co)he will > inject 1 and 2 days prior to shot. Because of the low > thyroid he is going to inc 1 gr immediately. Any other > imput? I appreciate your help soooo much! Thanks in > advance. > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > Hoping for some help here. My husband > is 40 yrs > > > old and has been using n > > > > > T Cypionate injections for around 6 > mos. He has > > > tried various dosing > > > > > strategies, at the time of these labs > he was > > > using 300mgs every 2 wks > > > > > IM. His Free T is sinking lower and > lower. > > > His libido is in the dirt, > > > > > pretty bad when the wife is begging > for a > > > little lovin [] . He has > > > > > used Arimidex in the past and it only > made it > > > worse, any help is very > > > > > much appreciated. He has a Dr appt tom > and need > > > some direction on what > > > > > to ask for.... > > > > > > > > > > Also, his current meds include 75 mcg > T3, 30 mg > > > Cortef. > > > > > > > > > > Testosterone 546 (300-1080) > > > > > > > > > > SHBG 56 (11-80) > > > > > > > > > > Free > > > Test   76   (47-244) > > > > > > > > > > % Free Testosterone 1.4 (1.6 - > 2.9) > > > > > > > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > how about his e2 levels? bet their sky high > with that > > > big a dose spread that far apart. > > > > > > > > try 150mg every week instead. > > > > > > > > you say he's tried arimidex...how much how > > > frequently? > > > > > > > > you might want to start around 1/4mg > (1/4tab) every > > > other day until his libido and erections come > back.... > > > > > > > > if he was taking like a whole tab every day > without > > > additional testosterone it's no surprise it > didn't work. > > > > > > > > ttyl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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