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I just use a pill cutter to cut the pills into 1/4's I cut the pill in half with

the cutter then us a single edge razor blaid to cut the half into a 1/4. I

don't crush the pills or put them in caps.

I don't know how long your test will take to come back. The test your Dr. H does

looks like the best labs your getting.

Take 1/4 of the Fludrocortison in the morning with water and Sea Salt go up 1/4

every 5 to 7 days.

Take the 1/4 of Arimidex Generic at dinnner time every 2 days.

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> From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

> Subject: Arimidex stuck in customs

>

> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 12:37 PM

> Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison

> (Generic " Florinef " ) is now stuck in customs. I had to email

> them a copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter from

> the National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to

> bring hormones into the country for use as medicine with my

> condition. Crap. I now have to wait ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I

> paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4 days,

> soon. Crap!

>

> When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it into

> powder and split it into caps for me!) ? And what about the

> Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

>

> Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which I

> will get in a few days before starting Arimidex?

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Were you the one that had a bad reaction to Florinef before with the head pain

or something? Starting with too much Florinef can cause that. I started with 1/4

of a 100 mcg tablet and couldn't imagine how bad it must be for these ones that

start on one full tablet as two days in I got terrible low potassium cramps and

headaches (but then I also went ahead and raised to 50 mcg).

These are some general guidelines on taking Florinef:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone/

Some will need potassium due to low levels and this issue is bound to get worse

with Florinef. Not all low adrenal people have high potassium, especially not

once they get cortisol into their bodies. Your serum potassium level dropping

into the lower portion of the lab range (or below!) is a sign of low potassium.

Basically, cellular levels of potassium can be low despite serum levels

appearing in the range, so WHERE in the range your level is says a lot.

Too much potassium can be very harmful, but suboptimal levels can really wreck

how you feel, so make sure you're checking it.

-Nigel

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Good point Nigel,

My heart Dr. told me blood labs don't show what is going on in the Cells and as

long as your levels for potassium are not to high on blood labs it's good to

take some. I take a water pill every other day and I take script brand

potassium with my water pill.

I read most people with low potassium end up low on aldosterone.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15454

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Actually, potassium is the principle base regulator of aldosterone secretion.

When potassium falls, so does the enzyme renin (produced in the kidneys) and

thus aldosterone also goes down.

When potassium rises, so does renin and aldosterone. Renin will also fall when

sodium and chloride levels are up and rise when they are down. Renin also

increases in response to decreased renal blood pressure.

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> From: nachohypo <nachonigel@...>

> Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

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> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 1:23 PM

> Were you the one that had a bad

> reaction to Florinef before with the head pain or something?

> Starting with too much Florinef can cause that. I started

> with 1/4 of a 100 mcg tablet and couldn't imagine how bad it

> must be for these ones that start on one full tablet as two

> days in I got terrible low potassium cramps and headaches

> (but then I also went ahead and raised to 50 mcg).

>

> These are some general guidelines on taking Florinef:

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone/

>

> Some will need potassium due to low levels and this issue

> is bound to get worse with Florinef. Not all low adrenal

> people have high potassium, especially not once they get

> cortisol into their bodies. Your serum potassium level

> dropping into the lower portion of the lab range (or below!)

> is a sign of low potassium. Basically, cellular levels of

> potassium can be low despite serum levels appearing in the

> range, so WHERE in the range your level is says a lot.

>

> Too much potassium can be very harmful, but suboptimal

> levels can really wreck how you feel, so make sure you're

> checking it.

>

> -Nigel

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> > And what about the Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

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Do they all go through customs?

USPS tracking shows " inbound into customs " on mine.

If that's the case, I have a problem.

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> Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison (Generic " Florinef " ) is now stuck in

customs. I had to email them a copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter

from the National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to bring hormones

into the country for use as medicine with my condition. Crap. I now have to wait

ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4

days, soon. Crap!

>

> When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it into powder and split it

into caps for me!) ? And what about the Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

>

> Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which I will get in a few days

before starting Arimidex?

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Did you order from ADC? If so it all goes through customs.

No big deal, it should be there maybe a couple of days thats all, then

delivered.

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> > Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison (Generic " Florinef " ) is now stuck in

customs. I had to email them a copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter

from the National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to bring hormones

into the country for use as medicine with my condition. Crap. I now have to wait

ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4

days, soon. Crap!

> >

> > When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it into powder and split

it into caps for me!) ? And what about the Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

> >

> > Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which I will get in a few

days before starting Arimidex?

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It is real Arimidex, but the pharmacy asked if I wanted them to crush it and put

it into caps. I said YES, cause it's a pain in the ass to split such small tiny

pills as I hear Arimidex are! :P

Taking fludro increased salt update. My serum sodium is already fine at 140

(range: 137 - 145 mmol/l) - Won't it be bad to take MORE salt when one is

starting fludrocortison?

> From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

> Subject: Arimidex stuck in customs

>

> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 12:37 PM

> Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison

> (Generic " Florinef " ) is now stuck in customs. I had to email

> them a copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter from

> the National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to

> bring hormones into the country for use as medicine with my

> condition. Crap. I now have to wait ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I

> paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4 days,

> soon. Crap!

>

> When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it into

> powder and split it into caps for me!) ? And what about the

> Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

>

> Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which I

> will get in a few days before starting Arimidex?

>

>

>

>      

>

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So why don't we just take POTASSIUM instead of Fludrocortison/Florinef to get

Aldosterone up?

How oftes do I need to test Aldosterone in serum and urine while ON

Fludro/Florinef?

Do you ADD to the Aldosteorne taking it or replace like with Thyroid?

> From: nachohypo <nachonigel@...>

> Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

>

> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 1:23 PM

> Were you the one that had a bad

> reaction to Florinef before with the head pain or something?

> Starting with too much Florinef can cause that. I started

> with 1/4 of a 100 mcg tablet and couldn't imagine how bad it

> must be for these ones that start on one full tablet as two

> days in I got terrible low potassium cramps and headaches

> (but then I also went ahead and raised to 50 mcg).

>

> These are some general guidelines on taking Florinef:

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone/

>

> Some will need potassium due to low levels and this issue

> is bound to get worse with Florinef. Not all low adrenal

> people have high potassium, especially not once they get

> cortisol into their bodies. Your serum potassium level

> dropping into the lower portion of the lab range (or below!)

> is a sign of low potassium. Basically, cellular levels of

> potassium can be low despite serum levels appearing in the

> range, so WHERE in the range your level is says a lot.

>

> Too much potassium can be very harmful, but suboptimal

> levels can really wreck how you feel, so make sure you're

> checking it.

>

> -Nigel

>

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> >

> > And what about the Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

> >

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Putting them into a suspension will allow for better titration and less side

effects.

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> > Subject: Arimidex stuck in customs

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> > Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 12:37 PM

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> > Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison

>

> > (Generic " Florinef " ) is now stuck in customs. I had to email

>

> > them a copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter from

>

> > the National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to

>

> > bring hormones into the country for use as medicine with my

>

> > condition. Crap. I now have to wait ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I

>

> > paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4 days,

>

> > soon. Crap!

>

> >

>

> > When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it into

>

> > powder and split it into caps for me!) ? And what about the

>

> > Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

>

> >

>

> > Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which I

>

> > will get in a few days before starting Arimidex?

>

> >

>

> >

>

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> >      

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Okay. Thanks.

I ordered before without a hitch, but OP had a problem, so I guess customs spot

checks.

Hopefully my number wont' come up!

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> > > Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison (Generic " Florinef " ) is now stuck in

customs. I had to email them a copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter

from the National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to bring hormones

into the country for use as medicine with my condition. Crap. I now have to wait

ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4

days, soon. Crap!

> > >

> > > When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it into powder and

split it into caps for me!) ? And what about the Fludrocortison? Morning for

both?

> > >

> > > Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which I will get in a few

days before starting Arimidex?

> > >

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Suspension? Whats that?

From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 12:10 AM

 

Putting them into a suspension will allow for better titration and less

side effects.

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> > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

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> > Subject: Arimidex stuck in customs

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> > Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 12:37 PM

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> > Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison

>

> > (Generic " Florinef " ) is now stuck in customs. I had to email

>

> > them a copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter from

>

> > the National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to

>

> > bring hormones into the country for use as medicine with my

>

> > condition. Crap. I now have to wait ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I

>

> > paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4 days,

>

> > soon. Crap!

>

> >

>

> > When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it into

>

> > powder and split it into caps for me!) ? And what about the

>

> > Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

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> >

>

> > Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which I

>

> > will get in a few days before starting Arimidex?

>

> >

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> >      

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You can read online that potassium tends to raise aldosterone levels and how

salt intake will lower aldosterone, but this is for healthy people and doesn't

apply well to those with adrenal fatigue.

Just a couple bananas caused me to go into a stupor and have heart arrhythmia

before I was on Florinef.

If you have weak adrenals and low aldosterone then taking lots of potassium

without Florinef could make you sick.

I'm not aware of any need to test aldosterone levels on Florinef. But

sodium/potassium levels are important to see the effects of whatever you're

taking. Florinef isn't actually aldosterone and so it won't even show up on

aldosterone tests.

Anything that increases sodium retention causes a natural decrease in your own

adrenals' production of aldosterone. Of course you body may downthrottle too

much in response. This actually happened to me simply from HC's sodium-retaining

effect and so my sodium issues were unmasked from taking HC.

-Nigel

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> So why don't we just take POTASSIUM instead of Fludrocortison/Florinef to get

Aldosterone up?

>

> How oftes do I need to test Aldosterone in serum and urine while ON

Fludro/Florinef?

>

> Do you ADD to the Aldosteorne taking it or replace like with Thyroid?

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suspension is liquid that hold the drug in a specific concentration. It is

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But what does this have to do with Arimidex?

From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 3:43 AM

 

suspension is liquid that hold the drug in a specific concentration. It is

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> > > them a copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter from

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> > > the National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to

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> > > bring hormones into the country for use as medicine with my

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Allows you to titrate easier then .25mgs capsules.

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I am not getting what you're talking about! :-( Sorry!

I had original Arimidex 1 mg crushed down to 0.25 mg in capsules for easier

consumption!

From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 2:04 PM

 

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A liquid in a dropper is easier to dose giving you more flexibility on daily

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Haha, this is not good. Dropper? Liquid?

I had Arimidex crushed down to powder, which is now inside capsules. 0.25 mg

Arimidex a capsule. It's the perfect dose. What's the problem?

My main problem now is... I don't have high E2 and I feel I can't trust

Hertoghes samples.. Unless my body is changing E2 around A LOT....

From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

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Hertoghe told me to take 0.25 a day, that's 1/4 a tablet, in a capsule daily.

But with my very fresh E2 result which is midrange, NOT more than twice the top

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I just called ROMAN PAIN LAB in Brussels. They're a very respected lab. They

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with thousands of patients all over the world. Ship blood. Blood is not

sentrifuged first. They said the results are correct.

I don't get ANYTHING now. Confused and scared of what's going on in my body when

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Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

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Like i said it could be a lab error despite what they say it does happen. Some

people need .1 mgs EOD of adex some need 1 mg a day. Dosage varies and .25 mcgs

may be too much for some it depends on how thye metabolize the drug.

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Yeah, lab errors do happen.

Shouldn't all people run at least TWO blood tests before adding potentially

dangerous drugs to their regime?

Also, shouldn't one analyze everything in TWO different labs? Just to be SURE

one is not starting a treatment wrongfully?

Maybe I never needed TRT. Maybe that low Total T result I got in March 2010 was

a lab error?

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From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 2:58 PM

 

Like i said it could be a lab error despite what they say it does happen.

Some people need .1 mgs EOD of adex some need 1 mg a day. Dosage varies and .25

mcgs may be too much for some it depends on how thye metabolize the drug.

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Well on my first appointment, Hertoghe went " hmmm " about my IGF-1 which was

almost twice the top range. That result was also from " shipped blood " . He told

me to make another test. And I did. Locally, where I love. That new test came

back normal, at the top of the range. He did not put me on Growth Hormone

immediately based on those results, at the time. This was March 2010.

But now I am wondering.. How many of my shipped samples have been wrongful? I am

questioning the whole treatment now, because of this.

Is there any reason why my E2 would be so high then 1 month later, low?

Could it be the fact that I put on my gel in the EVENING instead of in the

MORNING the last 3 days before my blood draw that made me E2 so high? On the

next E2 test, I only put on the gel in the EVENING instead of the MORNING 1 day

before the test. Hertoghe wants men to apply the gel, and take DHEA in the

evening some days before blood draw to get more accurate results. So it will be

about 12 hours after you apply T-gel/take DHEA til you draw the blood.

T.

From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 3:32 PM

 

This is rather disturbing the dr could not identify a simple lab error.

When a persons labs come back abnormal when previous ones where with in a

normal range there needs to be a repeate analysis

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It's about where you live in the USA it's not a problem. Most countrys it's not

a problem.

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Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

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> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 5:05 PM

> Do they all go through customs?

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> USPS tracking shows " inbound into customs " on mine. 

> If that's the case, I have a problem. 

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> > Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison (Generic

> " Florinef " ) is now stuck in customs. I had to email them a

> copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter from the

> National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to

> bring hormones into the country for use as medicine with my

> condition. Crap. I now have to wait ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I

> paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4 days,

> soon. Crap!

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> > When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it

> into powder and split it into caps for me!) ? And what about

> the Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

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> > Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which

> I will get in a few days before starting Arimidex?

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BTW just got a reply from Hertoghe himself:

He tells me to do a THIRD blood test to see if the first of second E2 result is

false.

I will apply the T-gel and take DHEA in the evening around 9 pm, before going to

bed, for three days, before drawing blood, so it will be 12 hrs between

application/dhea-ingestion, to the blood is drawn.

I will do a full hormon planel.

CAUSE I got Vitamin A today from the local lab and it was higher there than it

was on the Hertoghe bloodsample result. I am starting to doubt if shipping blood

is safe for accurate results!!!!!!!

THIS leaving my whole treatment in danger and perhaps my very life too?

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: Arimidex stuck in customs

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> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 5:05 PM

> Do they all go through customs?

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> USPS tracking shows " inbound into customs " on mine. 

> If that's the case, I have a problem. 

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> > Well, my Arimidex and Fludrocortison (Generic

> " Florinef " ) is now stuck in customs. I had to email them a

> copy of Hertoghes rx'ing AND a copy of a letter from the

> National Board Of Medicine which gives me legal right to

> bring hormones into the country for use as medicine with my

> condition. Crap. I now have to wait ANOTHER DAY. And gee, I

> paid $170 USD for 2 day express shipping. It's now 4 days,

> soon. Crap!

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> > When should I take Arimidex 1/4 capsule (the crush it

> into powder and split it into caps for me!) ? And what about

> the Fludrocortison? Morning for both?

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> > Should I wait for my NEW E2 blood sample result which

> I will get in a few days before starting Arimidex?

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