Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor work

[Guest guest]

I often experience the same thing after eating Bill - fatigue and, lately,

sweating. I also itch sometimes - I had some ice cream on Sunday and my stomach

bloated out and I itched all over afterwards. I've tested my blood sugar 60 mins

after eating several times lately and it's been in the 120's and 130s and as

high as 146. I also have a horrible gut with multiple food sensitivities. I've

been eating gluten free for almost two years and I've been avoiding dairy and

eggs for the past several months because I tested sensitive to them with one of

the " wellness " docs that I've seen. What I've noticed is that once I eliminate

or strictly limit a food I tend to react more strongly to it when I eat it. I've

been trying to heal my gut for over a year but it is not easy.

> > >

> > > > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@... <cfs38%40msn.com> <cfs38%40msn.com

> > >>

> >

> > > > Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively

> > > minor work

> > > >

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> > 40>

> >

> > > > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 1:07 PM

> > > > Bill,.....your blood glucose level

> > > > should be 140 or below within 2 hours after eating a meal.

> > > > It's almost worthless to take your reading right after you

> > > > ate, as too many things including what you took in come into

> > > > play.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Tim,......I will let you know what happens.

I don't drink much milk, but I DO use a lot of cheese, and even if it is

low-fat, or fat-free it still is made from dairy products.

I don't have the itching you speak of, but I have been told I have IBS, and I

have the constant pain in the calves that feel like I have worked myself to

death. Sometimes I have, and other times I have done nothing.

I bloat up a lot,......stomach can go from flat to feeling like I am going to

explode in a couple of hours. Maybe a bit of overkill with the description, but

I do swell up easily and get gas from both ends at times.

I have also heard what you said about milk and mammals a number of times before.

I will surely give it a shot.

[Guest guest]

Marc,

One rumatoligest (sp) in Ocala said I had IBS and fibromyalgia having

the same symptoms that your describing except with out the calf burning.

Funny how all that went away after my appendix burst.

Are you sure the pain in the calves isn't sciatica? That I do have. Brett

Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor

work

> Tim,......I will let you know what happens.

> I don't drink much milk, but I DO use a lot of cheese, and even if it is

> low-fat, or fat-free it still is made from dairy products.

>

> I don't have the itching you speak of, but I have been told I have IBS,

> and I have the constant pain in the calves that feel like I have worked

> myself to death. Sometimes I have, and other times I have done nothing.

>

> I bloat up a lot,......stomach can go from flat to feeling like I am going

> to explode in a couple of hours. Maybe a bit of overkill with the

> description, but I do swell up easily and get gas from both ends at times.

>

> I have also heard what you said about milk and mammals a number of times

> before. I will surely give it a shot.

[Guest guest]

Tim,

Thanks for all of this. I am lactose intolerant, but I do eat some dairy - I

take lactase pills. You may be on to something here with the dairy allergy, or

at least a food allergy of some sort. there are times (like yesterday) that I

get hot and sweaty after eating. But only sometimes...

Thanks again - I'll post what I find (if anything).

Bill

Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively

> > minor work

> > >

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> 40>

>

> > > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 1:07 PM

> > > Bill,.....your blood glucose level

> > > should be 140 or below within 2 hours after eating a meal.

> > > It's almost worthless to take your reading right after you

> > > ate, as too many things including what you took in come into

> > > play.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil.

I am to find out my lab results next week - part of what is being checked for is

AF.

Bill

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From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 10:44:31 AM

Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor work

I feel you have AF with low sugar to over come this we do better eating small

meals more often.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> > Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating

> and relatively minor work

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 1:07 PM

> > Bill,.....your blood glucose level

> > should be 140 or below within 2 hours after eating a

> meal.

> > It's almost worthless to take your reading right after

> you

> > ate, as too many things including what you took in

> come into

> > play.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Phil,

I would like to read about this, but I don't want to risk an infection (I guess

I could put a condom on my PC).

What is the topic of the link ? I can try googling it and stay away from that

web site.

Bill

________________________________

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 1:55:18 PM

Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor

work

That is a very good read but it has a lot of spy ware in it telling you your PC

is infected and you can't rid your self of it with out shuting down your PC so

anyone reading know this is going to happen.

My Sister in law all most died from this problem Dr.'s could not help her did

not know what was wrong with her she was getting blood 3x's a week to live. She

called me on the phone and asked me if I would search the web to figure out what

was wrong with her.

I found in in 15 min.'s Whipple's disease yet telling her Dr. this he would not

look into it she had to see a new Dr. she was dam near dead.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >

> >

> > Thank you Tim Hardasnails is good at this I hope he

> posts to you.

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That abdominal bloating is a common symptom of lactose intolerance. I have that

and that was the symptom that made me go " what is this? " . That led me to

diagnosing lactose intolerance.

You can buy lactase tablets such as LactAid (I buy the generics of that).

Bill

Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor

work

Hmmm, I don't get the spy ware thing at all, sorry about

that, wouldn't have posted the link if I had, the site works fine from my

end.

Just to add something, when I was researching low T etc, one of the symptoms

I thought was relevant, was a pot belly, Every doc I mentioned it to said

more or less the same thing " we all get that when we get older " thing was I

had never had a pot belly in my life and it was like a football, hard, not

soft fat, I now know this to be part of the Dairy allergy (fermentation in

the intestines) as it has gone now and I am working towards a six pack for

my 50th birthday in November Another symptom that is now a memory was,

pissing for England ! cheer's.

On 9 June 2010 18:55, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

>

> That is a very good read but it has a lot of spy ware in it telling you

> your PC is infected and you can't rid your self of it with out shuting down

> your PC so anyone reading know this is going to happen.

>

> My Sister in law all most died from this problem Dr.'s could not help her

> did not know what was wrong with her she was getting blood 3x's a week to

> live. She called me on the phone and asked me if I would search the web to

> figure out what was wrong with her.

>

> I found in in 15 min.'s Whipple's disease yet telling her Dr. this he would

> not look into it she had to see a new Dr. she was dam near dead.

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you Tim Hardasnails is good at this I hope he

> > posts to you.

> > > Co-Moderator

> > > Phil

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

marc it,s worth a shot, nothing to lose, lots to gain if it pays off, my missus

went off the dairy with me, she used to suffer from gut problems that would keep

her awak at night, not anymore, she also lost over a stone in weight (which is

nice) goodness all round is all I can say.

----- Original message -----

> Tim,......I will let you know what happens.

> I don't drink much milk, but I DO use a lot of cheese, and even if it is

> low-fat, or fat-free it still is made from dairy products.

>

> I don't have the itching you speak of, but I have been told I have IBS,

> and I have the constant pain in the calves that feel like I have worked

> myself to death. Sometimes I have, and other times I have done nothing.

>

> I bloat up a lot,......stomach can go from flat to feeling like I am

> going to explode in a couple of hours. Maybe a bit of overkill with the

> description, but I do swell up easily and get gas from both ends at

> times.

>

> I have also heard what you said about milk and mammals a number of times

> before. I will surely give it a shot.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Interesting. I get the " sweats " sometimes too (happened yesterday). It's gotta

be a food allergy.

I've considered getting a food allergy test done, but I have no health insurance

so I put things off.

Was the test accurate - did it provide you an accurate map of what you are

allergic to, or was it too general (and/or did it give you some false

positives)? Long question..... grammar checker is " off " .

Bill

________________________________

From: jasrich <jasrich100@...>

Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 3:16:57 PM

Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor work

I often experience the same thing after eating Bill - fatigue and, lately,

sweating. I also itch sometimes - I had some ice cream on Sunday and my stomach

bloated out and I itched all over afterwards. I've tested my blood sugar 60 mins

after eating several times lately and it's been in the 120's and 130s and as

high as 146. I also have a horrible gut with multiple food sensitivities. I've

been eating gluten free for almost two years and I've been avoiding dairy and

eggs for the past several months because I tested sensitive to them with one of

the " wellness " docs that I've seen. What I've noticed is that once I eliminate

or strictly limit a food I tend to react more strongly to it when I eat it. I've

been trying to heal my gut for over a year but it is not easy.

> > >

> > > > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@... <cfs38%40msn.com> <cfs38%40msn.com

> > >>

> >

> > > > Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively

> > > minor work

> > > >

< %40>< %

> > 40>

> >

> > > > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 1:07 PM

> > > > Bill,.....your blood glucose level

> > > > should be 140 or below within 2 hours after eating a meal.

> > > > It's almost worthless to take your reading right after you

> > > > ate, as too many things including what you took in come into

> > > > play.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Marc,

You are definitely lactose intolerant IMHO. This is not an allergy - you're not

allergic to dairy. It means your body doesn't have enough (or any) of the

enzyme to break down milk sugars. Lactose is everywhere! You'll find it in

vitamins, salad dressings (even those that don't look like one of the

ingredients is milk). You can buy lactase pills over-the-counter. LactAid is

probably the most well known. I buy the store brand equivalent of LactAid.

Take a pill or two (you can swallow or chew them) whenever you ingest anything

with lactose and see what happens. I'll bet a bazillion bucks that it gets

better. I'm using Phil's money for this bet, so if I'm wrong, hit him up for

the payout. Though if I'm right, I get the winnings.

Bill

________________________________

From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 3:24:47 PM

Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor work

Tim,......I will let you know what happens.

I don't drink much milk, but I DO use a lot of cheese, and even if it is

low-fat, or fat-free it still is made from dairy products.

I don't have the itching you speak of, but I have been told I have IBS, and I

have the constant pain in the calves that feel like I have worked myself to

death. Sometimes I have, and other times I have done nothing.

I bloat up a lot,......stomach can go from flat to feeling like I am going to

explode in a couple of hours. Maybe a bit of overkill with the description, but

I do swell up easily and get gas from both ends at times.

I have also heard what you said about milk and mammals a number of times before.

I will surely give it a shot.

[Guest guest]

That's a heckuva way to get rid of the problem!

________________________________

From: Brett Savage <brshop@...>

Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 3:48:25 PM

Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor work

Marc,

One rumatoligest (sp) in Ocala said I had IBS and fibromyalgia having

the same symptoms that your describing except with out the calf burning.

Funny how all that went away after my appendix burst.

Are you sure the pain in the calves isn't sciatica? That I do have. Brett

Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor

work

> Tim,......I will let you know what happens.

> I don't drink much milk, but I DO use a lot of cheese, and even if it is

> low-fat, or fat-free it still is made from dairy products.

>

> I don't have the itching you speak of, but I have been told I have IBS,

> and I have the constant pain in the calves that feel like I have worked

> myself to death. Sometimes I have, and other times I have done nothing.

>

> I bloat up a lot,......stomach can go from flat to feeling like I am going

> to explode in a couple of hours. Maybe a bit of overkill with the

> description, but I do swell up easily and get gas from both ends at times.

>

> I have also heard what you said about milk and mammals a number of times

> before. I will surely give it a shot.

[Guest guest]

Brett,.....with me I guess it's getting hard to tell. I have been a fairly

healthy guy until the last year or so.

Now it seems everything is out of whack. I am hoping it is my hormones. I have

had symptoms of IBS for a number of years though, and actually had a colonoscopy

at the age of 40, once again due to family history of polyps. I was 100% clean,

plus they took a biopsy sample to test for Chron's etc.

That was negative as well.

I still have my appendix, and get pains in that area from time to time. Docs say

it is nothing but gas trapped in the ilium.

As far as my calves,......I have no clue bud. This only started with me at the

end of last year. I assume it is from my low T, but I do have a bad low back,

and get symptoms of sciatica from time to time, as well as what would be called

meralgia paresthetica. Same thing but the latter is on the side of the leg

instead of the back.

Sad how quickly one can go from almost indestructible to feeling like crap, and

struggling to keep up with work at my age.

>

> Marc,

> One rumatoligest (sp) in Ocala said I had IBS and fibromyalgia having

> the same symptoms that your describing except with out the calf burning.

> Funny how all that went away after my appendix burst.

> Are you sure the pain in the calves isn't sciatica? That I do have. Brett

> Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor

> work

>

>

> > Tim,......I will let you know what happens.

> > I don't drink much milk, but I DO use a lot of cheese, and even if it is

> > low-fat, or fat-free it still is made from dairy products.

> >

> > I don't have the itching you speak of, but I have been told I have IBS,

> > and I have the constant pain in the calves that feel like I have worked

> > myself to death. Sometimes I have, and other times I have done nothing.

> >

> > I bloat up a lot,......stomach can go from flat to feeling like I am going

> > to explode in a couple of hours. Maybe a bit of overkill with the

> > description, but I do swell up easily and get gas from both ends at times.

> >

> > I have also heard what you said about milk and mammals a number of times

> > before. I will surely give it a shot.

>

[Guest guest]

Bill,.....I will try that first. It's much easier than not eating anything that

contains dairy.

I have heard of the stuff for years, but have never tried it.

Will be getting some tomorrow on the way home for sure!

If that does nothing, I will try the elimination method afterwards.

Thanks!

>

> Marc,

>

> You are definitely lactose intolerant IMHO. This is not an allergy - you're

not allergic to dairy. It means your body doesn't have enough (or any) of the

enzyme to break down milk sugars. Lactose is everywhere! You'll find it in

vitamins, salad dressings (even those that don't look like one of the

ingredients is milk). You can buy lactase pills over-the-counter. LactAid is

probably the most well known. I buy the store brand equivalent of LactAid.

Take a pill or two (you can swallow or chew them) whenever you ingest anything

with lactose and see what happens. I'll bet a bazillion bucks that it gets

better. I'm using Phil's money for this bet, so if I'm wrong, hit him up for

the payout. Though if I'm right, I get the winnings.

>

> Bill

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

>

> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 3:24:47 PM

> Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor

work

>

>

> Tim,......I will let you know what happens.

> I don't drink much milk, but I DO use a lot of cheese, and even if it is

low-fat, or fat-free it still is made from dairy products.

>

> I don't have the itching you speak of, but I have been told I have IBS, and I

have the constant pain in the calves that feel like I have worked myself to

death. Sometimes I have, and other times I have done nothing.

>

> I bloat up a lot,......stomach can go from flat to feeling like I am going to

explode in a couple of hours. Maybe a bit of overkill with the description, but

I do swell up easily and get gas from both ends at times.

>

> I have also heard what you said about milk and mammals a number of times

before. I will surely give it a shot.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bill, ive tried the lactase stuff and lactofree mi!k (they add the lactase to th

milk) it dont work for me, I beleive I have a casien allergy ( milk protein) but

lactose still affects me alot, and as has been said the more you abstain the

more sensetive you get, it only takes a tiny trace to set me back now, not

straight forward is it!

Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively

> minor  work

>

> Hmmm, I don't get the spy ware thing at all, sorry about

> that, wouldn't have posted the link if I had, the site works fine from my

> end.

>

> Just to add something, when I was researching low T etc, one of the

> symptoms I thought was relevant, was a pot belly, Every doc I mentioned

> it to said more or less the same thing " we all get that when we get

> older " thing was I had never had a pot belly in my life and it was like

> a football, hard, not soft fat, I now know this to be part of the Dairy

> allergy (fermentation in the intestines) as it has gone now and I am

> working towards a six pack for my 50th birthday in November Another

> symptom that is now a memory was, pissing for England ! cheer's.

>

> On 9 June 2010 18:55, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > That is a very good read but it has a lot of spy ware in it telling you

> > your PC is infected and you can't rid your self of it with out shuting

> > down your PC so anyone reading know this is going to happen.

> >

> > My Sister in law all most died from this problem Dr.'s could not help

> > her did not know what was wrong with her she was getting blood 3x's a

> > week to live. She called me on the phone and asked me if I would

> > search the web to figure out what was wrong with her.

> >

> > I found in in 15 min.'s Whipple's disease yet telling her Dr. this he

> > would not look into it she had to see a new Dr. she was dam near dead.

> >

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank you Tim Hardasnails is good at this I hope he

> > > posts to you.

> > > > Co-Moderator

> > > > Phil

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Ah..at least you figured it out.

Be well.

Bill

________________________________

From: Tim Skillen <t.skillen@...>

Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 4:54:22 PM

Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor work

 

Bill, ive tried the lactase stuff and lactofree mi!k (they add the lactase to th

milk) it dont work for me, I beleive I have a casien allergy ( milk protein) but

lactose still affects me alot, and as has been said the more you abstain the

more sensetive you get, it only takes a tiny trace to set me back now, not

straight forward is it!

Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively

> minor  work

>

> Hmmm, I don't get the spy ware thing at all, sorry about

> that, wouldn't have posted the link if I had, the site works fine from my

> end.

>

> Just to add something, when I was researching low T etc, one of the

> symptoms I thought was relevant, was a pot belly, Every doc I mentioned

> it to said more or less the same thing " we all get that when we get

> older " thing was I had never had a pot belly in my life and it was like

> a football, hard, not soft fat, I now know this to be part of the Dairy

> allergy (fermentation in the intestines) as it has gone now and I am

> working towards a six pack for my 50th birthday in November Another

> symptom that is now a memory was, pissing for England ! cheer's.

>

> On 9 June 2010 18:55, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > That is a very good read but it has a lot of spy ware in it telling you

> > your PC is infected and you can't rid your self of it with out shuting

> > down your PC so anyone reading know this is going to happen.

> >

> > My Sister in law all most died from this problem Dr.'s could not help

> > her did not know what was wrong with her she was getting blood 3x's a

> > week to live. She called me on the phone and asked me if I would

> > search the web to figure out what was wrong with her.

> >

> > I found in in 15 min.'s Whipple's disease yet telling her Dr. this he

> > would not look into it she had to see a new Dr. she was dam near dead.

> >

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank you Tim Hardasnails is good at this I hope he

> > > posts to you.

> > > > Co-Moderator

> > > > Phil

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yeh well, its just a shame Ihad to figure it out myself, even the specialist

that diagnosed eczma didnt mention food allergy,s, I could if anyone was

interested produce eczma on demand, buf nobody is

Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively

> > minor  work

> >

> > Hmmm, I don't get the spy ware thing at all, sorry about

> > that, wouldn't have posted the link if I had, the site works fine from

> > my end.

> >

> > Just to add something, when I was researching low T etc, one of the

> > symptoms I thought was relevant, was a pot belly, Every doc I mentioned

> > it to said more or less the same thing " we all get that when we get

> > older " thing was I had never had a pot belly in my life and it was like

> > a football, hard, not soft fat, I now know this to be part of the Dairy

> > allergy (fermentation in the intestines) as it has gone now and I am

> > working towards a six pack for my 50th birthday in November Another

> > symptom that is now a memory was, pissing for England ! cheer's.

> >

> > On 9 June 2010 18:55, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > That is a very good read but it has a lot of spy ware in it telling

> > > you your PC is infected and you can't rid your self of it with out

> > > shuting down your PC so anyone reading know this is going to happen.

> > >

> > > My Sister in law all most died from this problem Dr.'s could not help

> > > her did not know what was wrong with her she was getting blood 3x's a

> > > week to live. She called me on the phone and asked me if I would

> > > search the web to figure out what was wrong with her.

> > >

> > > I found in in 15 min.'s Whipple's disease yet telling her Dr. this he

> > > would not look into it she had to see a new Dr. she was dam near

> > > dead.

> > >

> > > Co-Moderator

> > > Phil

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you Tim Hardasnails is good at this I hope he

> > > > posts to you.

> > > > > Co-Moderator

> > > > > Phil

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively

> > minor  work

> >

> > Hmmm, I don't get the spy ware thing at all, sorry about

> > that, wouldn't have posted the link if I had, the site works fine from

> > my end.

> >

> > Just to add something, when I was researching low T etc, one of the

> > symptoms I thought was relevant, was a pot belly, Every doc I mentioned

> > it to said more or less the same thing " we all get that when we get

> > older " thing was I had never had a pot belly in my life and it was like

> > a football, hard, not soft fat, I now know this to be part of the Dairy

> > allergy (fermentation in the intestines) as it has gone now and I am

> > working towards a six pack for my 50th birthday in November Another

> > symptom that is now a memory was, pissing for England ! cheer's.

> >

> > On 9 June 2010 18:55, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > That is a very good read but it has a lot of spy ware in it telling

> > > you your PC is infected and you can't rid your self of it with out

> > > shuting down your PC so anyone reading know this is going to happen.

> > >

> > > My Sister in law all most died from this problem Dr.'s could not help

> > > her did not know what was wrong with her she was getting blood 3x's a

> > > week to live. She called me on the phone and asked me if I would

> > > search the web to figure out what was wrong with her.

> > >

> > > I found in in 15 min.'s Whipple's disease yet telling her Dr. this he

> > > would not look into it she had to see a new Dr. she was dam near

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[Guest guest]

You are lucky the virus it had in it did not get you. It got past my McAfee

Security and cost me most of the day. McAfee says it hides in the back ground

and keeps trying to get in on your PC then your in for a ride.

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> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: major fatigue after eating and relatively minor

work

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 2:14 PM

> Wow,.....this is very interesting to

> read.

> I have many if not all of the same symptoms from time to

> time myself.

> Unfortunately many of these are 'generic' symptoms and can

> be caused by a hundred different things.

>

> On the other hand,....it's pretty darn easy for me to take

> dairy out of my diet for a week or two, and see what

> happens!

>

> Thanks.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...

> <cfs38%40msn.com> <cfs38%40msn.com

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> > >

> > > > > Subject: Re: major

> fatigue after eating and relatively

> > > > minor work

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> > > > > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 1:07 PM

> > > > > Bill,.....your blood glucose level

> > > > > should be 140 or below within 2 hours

> after eating a meal.

> > > > > It's almost worthless to take your

> reading right after you

> > > > > ate, as too many things including what

> you took in come into

> > > > > play.

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[Guest guest]

It was very good but I am still seeing RED from working on getting my PC to work

again.

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> > posts to you.

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> > > Phil

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Tim I have this Anemia problem but we are not sure right after my labs

showed this I ended up with Heart Bypass surgery and lost a lot of blood Dr.'s

said it can take over 2 yrs for my blood to come back to normal so I am still on

Iron pills and take B-12 with Folic.

It is looking like I will be on Iron pills for life.

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Phil

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Hi Phil,

Out of interest do you have B12 shots/ oral tabs/or sublinguals?, I am

currently on Methylcobalamin shots but I also have a good stock of

Hydroxocobalamin shots, I went undiagnosed for many years and one of my

symptoms was very bad palpitations and shortness of breath. cheers

On 20 June 2010 15:43, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

>

> Thanks Tim I have this Anemia problem but we are not sure right after my

> labs showed this I ended up with Heart Bypass surgery and lost a lot of

> blood Dr.'s said it can take over 2 yrs for my blood to come back to normal

> so I am still on Iron pills and take B-12 with Folic.

> It is looking like I will be on Iron pills for life.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

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I now take B-12 sublinguals and Thorne Research - Folacal because folic acid in

my stomach dose not convert I was fund low below normal for folic acid on it.

The Folacal got my levels into the mid range. I had shortness of breath until I

got on Iron then it got much better. Later that yr. I ended up having heart

bypass sugary and did not find my breathing all that much better. I had them

look at my heart because I have Heart Burn and Reflux. They found 2 blockages

both 99% blocked and he 3rd artery was under developeded from brith.

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