Guest guest Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Anyone who is taking an antidepressant, and also has ED (unless, perhaps, the second came before the first), should be aware that their ED may be caused, at least in part, by the antidepressant. Here's one link about the subject-- http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/430614_5 I've often taken one of a couple of drugs (Amantadine or Bethanechol) during the 30-odd years I've been on my particular antidepressant, Nardil (an MAOI--and not often prescribed today). They seem to have helped. If it seems relevant, you may want to ask your doctor to prescribe an appropriate anti- dote suited to the antidepressant you're on--and of course, not likely to have adverse interactions or serious side-effects. _________________________________________________________________________ From: < > Subject: Digest Number 4652 Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2011, 7:08 PM Men with Hypogonadism, Kleinfelters, etc Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1a. Re: generic arimidex From: philip georgian 2a. Re: Anastrozole side effects From: uu1845@... 2b. Re: Anastrozole side effects From: philip georgian 2c. Re: Anastrozole side effects From: uu1845@... 2d. Re: Anastrozole side effects From: philip georgian 2e. Re: Anastrozole side effects From: uu1845@... 2f. Re: Anastrozole side effects F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I take Parnate, which is also an MAOI. If you can manage the dietary restrictions, I have noticed also that the ED symptoms are lessened considerably. When I was on an SSRI or SSNRI like Effexor or Cymbalta, sometimes getting a stable erection was next to impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Clinically speaking once lifestyles, nutition imbalnace, sleep hygiene, hormones, and underlying causes are identified and correct SSRI and other psychiatric drugs are either reduce or stopped completely. There is only a small percentage of people that need these drugs. > > I take Parnate, which is also an MAOI. If you can manage the dietary restrictions, I have noticed also that the ED symptoms are lessened considerably. > > When I was on an SSRI or SSNRI like Effexor or Cymbalta, sometimes getting a stable erection was next to impossible. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 You need to be a member to read this. =============================================== Abstract & Introduction Abstract Sexual dysfunction is a common side effect of SSRIs, occurring in more than 30% of patients. Sexual side effects have emerged as a major clinical concern with many of the newer antidepressants. Approximately 30% to 40% of patients on serotonergic antidepressants experience sexual dysfunction. Clinical trials of techniques to minimize or treat these side effects have been hampered by a lack of systematic inquiry on sexual dysfunction in antidepressant-treated patients. General strategies and specific drug antidotes to treat antidepressant-induced sexual side effects are discussed. These include such drugs as cyproheptadine, yohimbine, amantadine, buspirone, stimulants, and gingko biloba. Introduction Side effects associated with psychotropic medications are associated with noncompliance that can potentially reduce clinical response to treatment. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) have emerged as the dominant treatment for depression and other psychiatric disorders. However, sexual dysfunction is a major side effect of this group of psychotropic medications. Unfortunately, despite the astounding popularity of SSRIs in the US during the past 10 years, information on the prevalence and treatment of SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction is scant. This article reviews what is known about sexual side effects of antidepressants and strategies to treat them, relying heavily on the anecdotal data and case series that form the bulk of the published literature. Differential Diagnosis of Sexual Dysfunction Depressed patients can manifest sexual dysfunction due to a variety of causes. Clinicians should consider all possible causes before attributing sexual dysfunction to a prescribed antidepressant (Table I).[1,2] Etiologies can be grouped into 3 categories: (1) part of the presenting psychiatric disorder; (2) comorbid physical or psychiatric disorders; and (3) drug-induced from medical treatments. Presenting Disorder Psychiatric disorders themselves are associated with sexual dysfunction. Depression is assumed to be linked with alterations in sexual functioning, although the evidence for this assertion is less consistent than expected.[3] Only a handful of experimental studies on sexuality in depressed individuals have been published, and all these have evaluated only men.[3-9] These studies show that diminished sexual satisfaction, as opposed to decreased sexual interest or erectile dysfunction, is the most consistent finding in depressed outpatient men.[3] This complaint of decreased satisfaction is probably related to the diminished ability of many patients with depression to enjoy most pleasurable activities. Comorbid Disorder Sexual dysfunction can occur as a primary condition from either a medical disorder or from a poor relationship with the partner. Unfortunately, the rate of primary sexual dysfunction in a normative population is still in doubt, although the rate of DSM-IV hypoactive sexual desire is estimated at 20%.[10,11] Rates of decreased libido in earlier studies of depressed patients have been estimated as high as 77%.[12] Given the number of possible causes of sexual dysfunction, clinicians should ask about sexual function prior to prescribing antidepressants to any patient. A minimal set of screening questions should include the 3 major areas of sexual function: interest (or libido), arousal (erectile function in men, lubrication and feelings of arousal in women), and orgasm. Drug Effects A number of medications besides psychotropics can cause sexual dysfunction, including some antihypertensives and muscle relaxants. Antidepressants cause sexual side effects in all 3 phases of the normal sexual response cycle, including decreased libido, erectile dysfunction (in men), and delayed time to orgasm or anorgasmia in men and women. In open case series of patients treated with SSRIs, orgasmic dysfunction is the most common sexual dysfunction, followed by decreased libido; arousal difficulties represent the least common form.[13] Painful ejaculation was reported in as many as 20% of men in 2 case series of men taking tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs).[14,15] As yet, this side effect has not been reported to occur in association with the newer antidepressants such as SSRIs, bupropion, nefazodone, and mirtazapine. Paradoxically, antidepressants (especially those with serotonergic effects such as SSRIs, monoamine oxidase inhibitors [MAOIs], and trazodone) have also been reported, albeit infrequently, to cause occasional increased sexuality. Case reports describe enhanced libido, spontaneous orgasm without sexual stimulation, and spontaneous orgasm with yawning.[16-20] Antidepressants and Sexual Dysfunction All antidepressants are associated with potential sexual side effects. However, it is difficult to estimate the percentage of patients experiencing these side effects with any single antidepressant. This is because of the variability in methodology between studies when ascertaining sexual side effects and because of a paucity of studies specifically evaluating the rate of sexual side effects. When patients in a recent study were asked about sexual dysfunction, the rate of these complaints from SSRIs was 55%, compared with only 2% to 7% when sexual side effects were voluntarily reported.[21] Despite these methodological difficulties, patients taking the highly serotonergic antidepressants -- SSRIs, clomipramine, and venlafaxine -- seem to show the highest rates of sexual dysfunction, varying from 2% to 92%.[15,22] The best estimate is that 30% to 40% of patients on serotonergic antidepressants will have some sexual dysfunction. In descending order, MAOIs seem to be associated with the next highest rate of sexual dysfunction, followed by TCAs. Rates of sexual side effects seem to be consistently lowest with nefazodone, bupropion, and mirtazapine. Rates of sexual dysfunction within a given drug class are probably equal when equivalent dosages are compared.[13,23-25] Treatment of Sexual Side Effects: General Strategies Effective treatment of antidepressant-induced sexual dysfunction has advanced little since it was first recognized as a significant problem within the last decade.[26] No double-blind treatment study has yet been published, although one with predominantly negative results has been presented.[27] The absence of a systematic study precludes development of a clinically validated treatment algorithm, since comparison of suggested treatments has not been researched. Despite this limitation, treatment of antidepressant-induced sexual dysfunction can be divided into general strategies and antidotes (Table II).[2] General strategies for treating antidepressant-induced sexual side effects include decreasing the dose, waiting, switching, and transient discontinuation. Dosage Reduction Clinical experience suggests that side effects are generally dose-related, making dose reduction a reasonable first strategy to consider.[23,24] The relative paucity of nonsexual side effects seen with SSRIs makes it likely that at least some patients are on higher doses than necessary for antidepressant efficacy. SSRIs typically show a flat dose-response curve in the treatment of depression, meaning that increasing the doses above the typical doses administered is not associated with greater efficacy.[28] The hope is that the dose threshold for efficacy is lower than the dose threshold for sexual side effects, thereby precipitating fewer side effects while preserving efficacy.[28] The length of time needed for side effects to diminish after dose reduction depends on the half-life of the antidepressant. With fluoxetine's long half-life, a few weeks at the lower dose may be needed to evaluate the regression of side effects. One study demonstrated that 14 days after discontinuing fluoxetine, only 13% of patients with sexual side effects had recovered orgasmic function.[29] For the other serotonergic agents, a period of a few days (for venlafaxine and paroxetine) to a week (for sertraline and fluvoxamine) is probably sufficient to evaluate the success of dose reduction in diminishing sexual side effects.[30] Drug Accommodation This strategy of waiting for the patient to adjust to the medication is based on the observation that other drug-induced side effects, such as nausea and excessive stimulation, diminish after several days to weeks of treatment.[31] A few case reports and case series have noted resolution of sexual dysfunction secondary to administration of TCAs or SSRIs.[23,24,32,33] Although accommodation to these side effects may occur, clinical experience demonstrates that the patient usually experiences partial rather than absolute improvement, and it can take many months of treatment, not days to weeks, before improvements are noted.[20] For example, anorgasmia may diminish to delayed orgasm but rarely to full baseline orgasmic function. Drug Switching Switching to a different antidepressant is a logical and effective strategy when the first prescribed medication produces a higher rate of sexual dysfunction than the alternative. This has been clearly demonstrated in studies in which patients have switched from an SSRI to bupropion or nefazodone.[23,24,29,34] In the few studies examining this strategy,[31,35] there is no evidence of a depressive relapse when patients are switched across antidepressant classes. However, reemergence of depressive symptoms is always a risk with this strategy. Switching within a medication class is theoretically less risky for inducing relapse, but its efficacy as a strategy for reversing sexual side effects is less clear. Case reports have demonstrated successful switches from one TCA to another.[35,36] Within the SSRI class, no systematic data exist, but anecdotes about successful switches have been reported.[23,24] A study by Ashton and colleagues[13] noted that sexual dysfunction with one SSRI did not necessarily predict dysfunction with another; however, no data were provided. Drug Discontinuation The most controversial general strategy involves temporary discontinuation of medication. This technique requires either discontinuing the antidepressant for 1 or 2 days or dramatically lowering the dose for several days.[24,37,38] In the largest study examining this strategy, half the patients taking a short half-life SSRI showed clear improvement in sexual functioning after a 2-day discontinuation, whereas patients taking fluoxetine (with its long half-life) showed no improvement.[37] Other cases have been described in which even a 1-day discontinuation of fluoxetine resulted in diminished sexual side effects.[23] One case report described the successful use of a partial drug holiday with fluvoxamine to treat anorgasmia: Fluvoxamine was lowered from 300mg daily to 100mg daily for 2 days, and the patient had complete resolution of anorgasmia.[38] However, then increasing the daily dose to 200mg rather than restoring it to 300mg resulted in the re-emergence of depression. The strategy of transient medication discontinuation to treat side effects is controversial because of the potential effects on mood, compliance issues, and withdrawal symptoms. In a study by Rothschild,[37] discontinuation of medication was associated with a mild increase in the scores for 2 of 20 patients on the Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression. Some patients may view this strategy as an indication that compliance with antidepressants is not to be attended to seriously. Lastly, transient discontinuation of a short half-life serotonergic medication (especially paroxetine or venlafaxine) confers the risk of inducing an unpleasant withdrawal syndrome characterized by dizziness, light-headedness, insomnia, fatigue, anxiety, nausea, and sensory disturbances.[39-41] Treatment of Sexual Side Effects: Antidotes A variety of antidotes have been reported to treat SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction effectively; however, virtually all the data on these agents are derived from open case reports and case series. Insofar as sexual function improvement may be responsive to placebo effects, it is impossible to estimate the true efficacy of these antidotes.[27] Most of these antidotes either have serotonin-blocking properties (especially 5HT-2 antagonistic effects) or augment catecholamine activity, especially that of dopamine. The antiserotonergic antidotes are cyproheptadine, buspirone, nefazodone, and mianserin. Medications enhancing dopaminergic tone include amantadine, bupropion, and stimulants, with yohimbine showing noradrenergic effects. Among the reported antidotes, the only 2 without antiserotonergic effects or catecholaminergic activity are gingko biloba and urecholine. Cyproheptadine is an antihistamine with antiserotonergic properties that has been reported for over a decade to reverse antidepressant-induced sexual dysfunction. Only case reports and case series attest to its efficacy.[13,42-44] Effective doses range from 2mg to 16mg. In the most recent and largest case series, 12 of 25 patients described improvement in sexual function when treated with cyproheptadine (mean dose, 8.6mg).[13] Anorgasmia is the sexual side effect most often reported to be alleviated by cyproheptadine. Cyproheptadine is effective when taken either on an as-needed basis (typically, 1 to 2 hours before intercourse) or on a regular basis. However, cyproheptadine's utility is often limited by its potential side effects. Excessive sedation and the reversal of the therapeutic effect of the antidepressant are major problems that limit its usefulness. Effectively treated depression and bulimic symptoms have been reported to reemerge soon after cyproheptadine was started.[42,45-48] This reversal of therapeutic effects is itself reversible upon discontinuation. Buspirone is a serotonin-IA partial agonist typically prescribed to treat persistent anxiety. One case series reported that buspirone reversed both decreased sexual interest and orgasmic dysfunction caused by SSRIs.[49] Most patients using buspirone to treat sexual dysfunction take it daily. The dosage is the same as that used for anxiety (15mg to 60mg daily). The mechanism of action of buspirone in treating sexual dysfunction may be reduction of serotonergic tone via stimulation of presynaptic autoreceptors or the alpha-2 antagonist effects of one of buspirone's major metabolites, 1-pyrimidinylpiperazine. Nefazodone and mianserin are antidepressants with strong postsynaptic blocking properties. In one case report, nefazodone 150mg taken 1 hour prior to sexual activity completely reversed sertraline-induced anorgasmia.[50] Mianserin, an antidepressant with 5HT-2 and alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist properties, is available in many countries but not in the US. It has been reported to reverse serotonin reuptake inhibitor-induced sexual dysfunction in 9 of 15 patients.[51] Mirtazapine is similar in its biological activity to mianserin and might also be effective in reversing sexual side effects. No case reports or case series have yet been published attesting to this, although clinicians have described such an effect. The putative capacity of mianserin and mirtazapine to reverse sexual side effects can be attributed either to their serotonergic activity or presynaptic alpha-2 activity. Amantadine, a dopamine agonist, is used both as an antiviral agent and as a treatment for Parkinson's disease. It has been shown in a number of small case series to reverse anorgasmia.[13,52-54] Reported effective doses have ranged between 100mg to 400mg taken either on a daily or as-needed basis. In the most recent case series, 8 (42%) out of 19 patients with SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction improved with amantadine 200mg daily.[13] Given dopamine's consistent effect as a neurotransmitter involved in sexual arousal, a number of other dopamine agonists have been explored as treatments for sexual side effects.[2,55,56] Bupropion is another commonly touted antidote for SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction.[57,58] It is assumed that the mechanism of action by which bupropion reverses sexual side effects is its weak dopamine agonism. The evidence for bupropion's efficacy is scant, except for unpublished, anecdotal reports, one case report,[57] and a case series[58] in which 31 (66%) of 47 patients showed improvement when bupropion was added to the regimen along with the serotonergic antidepressant. Most patients (18/31) with a successful outcome responded to as-needed use of bupropion 75mg to 150mg. Libido, arousal, and orgasmic difficulties were all effectively reversed. Fifteen percent of treated patients stopped taking bupropion because of its stimulation side effects. It is unclear whether bupropion doses need to be somewhat lower than usual when added to fluoxetine or paroxetine, to compensate for pharmacokinetic interactions resulting in increased bupropion levels.[59] Stimulants, such as methylphenidate, D-amphetamine, and pemoline, are reported to reverse a variety of sexual side effects caused by SSRIs or MAOIs.[60-62] Low doses of 10mg-25mg of methylphenidate or D-amphetamine have been effective. One should add stimulants to an MAOI with extreme caution because of the risk of a hypertensive episode. However, use of an MAOI/stimulant combination has been shown to be safe in a case series.[63] SSRI/stimulant combinations show no similar risks. Yohimbine is available with or without a prescription (and with unclear purity) in health food stores. It is an alkaloid from the bark of Corynanthe yohimbi (family, Rubiaceae) and has been used for decades to reverse erectile dysfunction.[64-66] Its efficacy in treating sexual dysfunction may be associated with its ability to block presynaptic alpha-2 adrenergic sites, leading to enhanced adrenergic tone.[65] A variety of sexual side effects have been reported to be alleviated by yohimbine in doses ranging from 2.7mg to 16.2mg daily, prescribed either on a regular 5.4mg 3 times daily basis or on an as-needed basis with single doses up to 16.2mg.[13,67-69] In the largest case series, 17 (81%) of 21 patients showed improvement of sexual side effects when treated with yohimbine (mean dose, 16.2mg).[12] Typical side effects associated with yohimbine include anxiety, nausea, flushing, urinary urgency, and sweating. Yohimbine has been the subject of the only double-blind, placebo-controlled study to evaluate treatment of sexual dysfunction occurring as a drug side effect.[27] Unfortunately, the placebo effect was marked, showing a minimal drug-placebo difference with yohimbine given at a dose of 5.4mg 3 times daily. Yohimbine is also available in lower potency without a prescription. The purity, potency, and safety of these preparations, however, are unknown. Bethanechol is a cholinergic agonist that has occasionally been useful in reversing sexual dysfunction associated with TCAs and MAOIs.[70-73] Typical doses are 10mg to 20mg as needed or 30mg to 100mg daily in a divided dose. Potential side effects with bethanechol include diarrhea, cramps, and diaphoresis. No reports have evaluated or suggested the efficacy of bethanechol for treating SSRI-induced sexual side effects. Gingko biloba is an herbal extract reported to reverse a variety of sexual dysfunctions associated with antidepressants. Information about gingko's ability in this regard is derived from the experience of 1 clinician presenting a large case series.[74] The response rate was greater than 80%, with doses ranging from 60mg twice daily to 120mg twice daily (mean daily dose, 207mg). Reported side effects include gastrointestinal upset, lightheadedness, and stimulation effects. Because gingko may inhibit platelet-activating factor, caution should be used in considering its use by any patient with a bleeding diathesis. The mechanism by which gingko might alleviate sexual dysfunction is unknown. Summary Treating sexual dysfunction associated with antidepressant medication is an important but relatively unexplored issue in psychopharmacology. A thoughtful diagnostic evaluation, including examination of the possibility that some sexual difficulties attributed to the antidepressant may have another etiology, is mandatory. 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[CLOSE WINDOW] Authors and Disclosures Dr. Gitlin is Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, UCLA School of Medicine, Los Angeles, Calif. 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Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I used to take many antidepressants until I realized the more I take, the less likely I will continue to think they will make me feel things / experiences taken away indirectly by primary hypogondaism. I became dependent. I went to walgreens and gave in a higer dose than earier in the month, I felt nothing and ashamed after I saw the parmaist look of " you dnt look alright " . I wasn't and still finding it, but I knew no drug can help me find happiness. No drug can make what's wrong be forgotten until the next pill. I had to work harder and learn to at least be content with me; something I never conditioned to be. I learned and had to somewhat confront in therapy, my orginal unhappiness and depression, it stemed from me being conditioned my sexual characteristics from primary H, were horrible. Tack on side effects as a child into adult from low T such as no desire to have sex, etc while feeling I was " less than " since I was young, made things worst. I didn't have the best childhood with an alcoholic and angry step dad and chain smoking verbally abusive mom I never learned how to combat yet somehow the only thing I abused were my " happy " pills a few yrs ago. Now I try to help those addicted. MORAL OF THE STORY, we have one life, please continue to combat for a healthier one while finding your brand of happiness and success; love and help others and importantly embrance and learn to love you. Re: Antidote(s) for ED caused by antidepressants You need to be a member to read this. =============================================== Abstract & Introduction Abstract Sexual dysfunction is a common side effect of SSRIs, occurring in more than 30% of patients. Sexual side effects have emerged as a major clinical concern with many of the newer antidepressants. Approximately 30% to 40% of patients on serotonergic antidepressants experience sexual dysfunction. Clinical trials of techniques to minimize or treat these side effects have been hampered by a lack of systematic inquiry on sexual dysfunction in antidepressant-treated patients. General strategies and specific drug antidotes to treat antidepressant-induced sexual side effects are discussed. These include such drugs as cyproheptadine, yohimbine, amantadine, buspirone, stimulants, and gingko biloba. Introduction Side effects associated with psychotropic medications are associated with noncompliance that can potentially reduce clinical response to treatment. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) have emerged as the dominant treatment for depression and other psychiatric disorders. However, sexual dysfunction is a major side effect of this group of psychotropic medications. Unfortunately, despite the astounding popularity of SSRIs in the US during the past 10 years, information on the prevalence and treatment of SSRI-induced sexual dysfu [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 By balancing out the liver, gut, hormones, thyroid and other factors I have mentioned numerous times one can reduce antidepressants all together in majority of cases. The problem is having a medical professional take the time to look to see what needs to be balanced and why. > > I used to take many antidepressants until I realized the more I take, the less likely I will continue to think they will make me feel things / experiences taken away indirectly by primary hypogondaism. I became dependent. I went to walgreens and gave in a higer dose than earier in the month, I felt nothing and ashamed after I saw the parmaist look of " you dnt look alright " . I wasn't and still finding it, but I knew no drug can help me find happiness. No drug can make what's wrong be forgotten until the next pill. I had to work harder and learn to at least be content with me; something I never conditioned to be. I learned and had to somewhat confront in therapy, my orginal unhappiness and depression, it stemed from me being conditioned my sexual characteristics from primary H, were horrible. Tack on side effects as a child into adult from low T such as no desire to have sex, etc while feeling I was " less than " since I was young, made things worst. I didn't have the best childhood with an alcoholic and angry step dad and chain smoking verbally abusive mom I never learned how to combat yet somehow the only thing I abused were my " happy " pills a few yrs ago. Now I try to help those addicted. MORAL OF THE STORY, we have one life, please continue to combat for a healthier one while finding your brand of happiness and success; love and help others and importantly embrance and learn to love you. > > Re: Antidote(s) for ED caused by antidepressants > > > You need to be a member to read this. > =============================================== > Abstract & Introduction > Abstract > Sexual dysfunction is a common side effect of SSRIs, occurring in more than 30% of patients. > > Sexual side effects have emerged as a major clinical concern with many of the newer antidepressants. Approximately 30% to 40% of patients on serotonergic antidepressants experience sexual dysfunction. Clinical trials of techniques to minimize or treat these side effects have been hampered by a lack of systematic inquiry on sexual dysfunction in antidepressant-treated patients. General strategies and specific drug antidotes to treat antidepressant-induced sexual side effects are discussed. These include such drugs as cyproheptadine, yohimbine, amantadine, buspirone, stimulants, and gingko biloba. > > Introduction > Side effects associated with psychotropic medications are associated with noncompliance that can potentially reduce clinical response to treatment. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) have emerged as the dominant treatment for depression and other psychiatric disorders. However, sexual dysfunction is a major side effect of this group of psychotropic medications. Unfortunately, despite the astounding popularity of SSRIs in the US during the past 10 years, information on the prevalence and treatment of SSRI-induced sexual dysfu > > [The entire original message is not included] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 One element you lack to mention. Many folks take antidepressants for emotional difficulty. Having a healthy liver,etc cannot help the mind heal properly. Antidepressants should be short term with able psychological help. Please dnt advise someone who needs medically monitored psycho- topic help, to go get this liver, etc checked instead. Re: Antidote(s) for ED caused by antidepressants By balancing out the liver, gut, hormones, thyroid and other factors I have mentioned numerous times one can reduce antidepressants all together in majority of cases. The problem is having a medical professional take the time to look to see what needs to be balanced and why. > > I used to take many antidepressants until I realized the more I take, the less likely I will continue to think they will make me feel things / experiences taken away indirectly by primary hypogondaism. I became dependent. I went to walgreens and gave in a higer dose than earier in the month, I felt nothing and ashamed after I saw the parmaist look of " you dnt look alright " . I wasn't and still finding it, but I knew no drug can help me find happiness. No drug can make what's wrong be forgotten until the next pill. I had to work harder and learn to at least be content with me; something I never conditioned to be. I learned and had to somewhat confront in therapy, my orginal unhappiness and depression, it stemed from me being conditioned my sexual characteristics from primary H, were horrible. Tack on side effects as a child into adult from low T such as no desire to have sex, etc while feeling I was " less than " since I was young, made things worst. I didn't have the best childhood with an alcoholic and angry step dad and chain smoking verbally abusive mom I never learned how to combat yet somehow the only thing I abused were my " happy " p [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 IF you read my post it mentioned there are some people that do benefit from these due to the fact it is how they are wired. In TCM the source of depression comes from liver stagnation. When dealing with people that are depressed I look for abnormal hormones, thyroid, adrenal, poor lifestyles, past psychological trama, ect to idenify the root cause. You can also you hypnotherapy to come to term with the situation to heal at the subconscious mind which is so over looked in medicine today. From dealing with things from a clincal basis one can usually tell when or when not to cross that line. I am just saying liver and gut are source 90% or more of where your brain chemistry is created. One also needs to look at receptors and cellmembran fluidity. We are toxic there is no way around that and our genetics play a huge factor on how we are able to unload and deal with a toxic world. NO where did I ever stop medicine, just pointed out a fact that majority of people do not need to be on them in the first place. > > > > I used to take many antidepressants until I realized the more I take, the less likely I will continue to think they will make me feel things / experiences taken away indirectly by primary hypogondaism. I became dependent. I went to walgreens and gave in a higer dose than earier in the month, I felt nothing and ashamed after I saw the parmaist look of " you dnt look alright " . I wasn't and still finding it, but I knew no drug can help me find happiness. No drug can make what's wrong be forgotten until the next pill. I had to work harder and learn to at least be content with me; something I never conditioned to be. I learned and had to somewhat confront in therapy, my orginal unhappiness and depression, it stemed from me being conditioned my sexual characteristics from primary H, were horrible. Tack on side effects as a child into adult from low T such as no desire to have sex, etc while feeling I was " less than " since I was young, made things worst. I didn't have the best childhood with an alcoholic and angry step dad and chain smoking verbally abusive mom I never learned how to combat yet somehow the only thing I abused were my " happy " p > > [The entire original message is not included] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 My life was much like yours my Dad was a rage alcoholic. I got my A** kicked morning to night. When I fist got sick Dr.'s did some testing then when they did not find anything wrong. They told me I was suffering from Major Depression I was on meds for 5 yrs only to later find out It was not Major Depression but low Testosterone. You can read my story at this link. I feel I lost 5 yrs of my life on them AD drugs. Yet because I was a child of an alcoholic the Therapy was good. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/stories-of-others/phils-story/ Co-Moderator Phil > From: uu1845@... <uu1845@...> > Subject: RE: Antidote(s) for ED caused by antidepressants > > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 12:53 PM > I used to take many antidepressants > until I realized the more I take, the less likely I will > continue to think they will make me feel things / > experiences taken away indirectly by primary hypogondaism. I > became dependent. I went to walgreens and gave in a higer > dose than earier in the month, I felt nothing and ashamed > after I saw the parmaist look of " you dnt look alright " . I > wasn't and still finding it, but I knew no drug can help me > find happiness. No drug can make what's wrong be forgotten > until the next pill. I had to work harder and learn to at > least be content with me; something I never conditioned to > be. I learned and had to somewhat confront in therapy, my > orginal unhappiness and depression, it stemed from me being > conditioned my sexual characteristics from primary H, were > horrible. Tack on side effects as a child into adult from > low T such as no desire to have sex, etc while feeling I was > " less than " since I was young, made things worst. I didn't > have the best childhood with an alcoholic and angry step dad > and chain smoking verbally abusive mom I never learned how > to combat yet somehow the only thing I abused were my > " happy " pills a few yrs ago. Now I try to help those > addicted. MORAL OF THE STORY, we have one life, please > continue to combat for a healthier one while finding your > brand of happiness and success; love and help others and > importantly embrance and learn to love you. > > > Re: Antidote(s) for ED caused by > antidepressants > > > You need to be a member to read this. > =============================================== > Abstract & Introduction > Abstract > Sexual dysfunction is a common side effect of SSRIs, > occurring in more than 30% of patients. > > Sexual side effects have emerged as a major clinical > concern with many of the newer antidepressants. > Approximately 30% to 40% of patients on serotonergic > antidepressants experience sexual dysfunction. Clinical > trials of techniques to minimize or treat these side effects > have been hampered by a lack of systematic inquiry on sexual > dysfunction in antidepressant-treated patients. General > strategies and specific drug antidotes to treat > antidepressant-induced sexual side effects are discussed. > These include such drugs as cyproheptadine, yohimbine, > amantadine, buspirone, stimulants, and gingko biloba. > > Introduction > Side effects associated with psychotropic medications are > associated with noncompliance that can potentially reduce > clinical response to treatment. Selective serotonin reuptake > inhibitors (SSRIs) have emerged as the dominant treatment > for depression and other psychiatric disorders. However, > sexual dysfunction is a major side effect of this group of > psychotropic medications. Unfortunately, despite the > astounding popularity of SSRIs in the US during the past 10 > years, information on the prevalence and treatment of > SSRI-induced sexual dysfu > > [The entire original message is not included] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thank you for sharing your story Phil. Do you have children? Are you happy in life? RE: Antidote(s) for ED caused by antidepressants > > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 12:53 PM > I used to take many antidepressants > until I realized the more I take, the less likely I will > continue to think they will make me feel things / > experiences taken away indirectly by primary hypogondaism. I > became dependent. I went to walgreens and gave in a hi [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Yes I am now 67 married with two grown girls and 5 grand kids. I have a lot of health problems but I never let this get me down. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: uu1845@... > <uu1845@...> > > Subject: RE: Antidote(s) for ED caused > by antidepressants > > > > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 12:53 PM > > I used to take many antidepressants > > until I realized the more I take, the less likely I > will > > continue to think they will make me feel things / > > experiences taken away indirectly by primary > hypogondaism. I > > became dependent. I went to walgreens and gave in a > hi > > [The entire original message is not included] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Hey that's good to read on your family! Grand kids neat. I imagine you are a loving grand dad. Do you use helpforums like medhelp for your health worries? Some forums have a small pay fee to directly receive answers from docs. One I used for only 9 dollars and I received a few responses. RE: Antidote(s) for ED caused by > antidepressants > > > My life was much like yours my Dad was a rage alcoholic. I > got my A** kicked morning to night. When I fist got sick > Dr.'s did some testing then when they did not find anything > wrong. They told me I was suffering from Major Depression I > was on meds for 5 yrs only to [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I have very good Dr.'s my famly Dr. is great at hormoens and my Heart Dr. is too. Then I have Dr.'s I know on the web that if I ask will help me at the drop of a hat. I don't ask them because my Dr. are great. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: uu1845@... > <uu1845@...> > > Subject: RE: Antidote(s) for ED caused > by antidepressants > > > > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 2:36 AM > > Thank you for sharing your story > > Phil. Do you have children? Are you happy in life? > > > > RE: Antidote(s) for ED caused > by > > antidepressants > > > > > > My life was much like yours my Dad was a rage > alcoholic. I > > got my A** kicked morning to night. When I fist got > sick > > Dr.'s did some testing then when they did not find > anything > > wrong. They told me I was suffering from Major > Depression I > > was on meds for 5 yrs only to > > [The entire original message is not included] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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