Re: Re Reduced or Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

February 10, 2010

Dave, thanks for the info. The 4 hr erection won't be a factor for me. I don't

get any wood. I got some Desyrel coming from a canadian pharmacy. my wife has

some ambien. I've put off using until I see how the T3 med works on my rt3

problem. I'm gonna try some tonight, although I've been shoveling snow all day.

I'll probably pass out tonight.

> > > >

> > > > I was using trazadone for sleep(worked great!), but have switched to

meletonin w/ good results.

> > > > I am also tapering VERY slowly off cymbalta, and so far I feel great. I

expect it to take 6 mos to one year to taper off.

> > > >

> > > > Doctors should really take a closer look at hormones before prescribing

anti-depressants.

> > > >

> > > > Steve

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@>

> > > >

> > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 4:08:39 PM

> > > > Subject: Reduced or Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

> > > >

> > > > Many years ago, my doctor prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia,

anxiety and depression. I didn't then and don't now have sleep apnea. However,

even though falling asleep wasn't too much of an issue, I'd wake up many times

during the night. Often, all I would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock

to see if it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the more I did this, the

more anxious I'd become. Fortunately, Trazodone seemed to do the trick, allowing

me to sleep through the night.

> > > >

> > > > At that time, I was taking 300 mg just before retiring for the night.

One problem I experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next morning until about

mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the amount of Trazodone I was taking. At the

same time, I began taking Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course of

treatment for depression continued with some variances over the next fifteen

years.

> > > >

> > > > Since beginning TRT last August, I've discontinued taking both Welbutrin

and more recently Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all depressed, which is

great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any depression I felt before.

> > > >

> > > > It has been about two weeks since I stopped taking Trazodone. My ending

dosage was 75 mg per night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out and thought

what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't recommend doing this. Coming off

Trazodone can make one feel really sick with flu like symptoms. My sleep

patterns are not as good as they were while on Trazodone, but they are gradually

getting better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone else had similar experiences with reduced or an eliminated

need for anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > >

February 11, 2010

Just so you know, I was prescribed a 50mg dose as a sleep aid, but I found that

I got a " hangover " from it. 25 mg worked fine.

The higher dosages were generally prescribed as an antidepressant.

________________________________

From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 5:19:21 PM

Subject: Re: Re Reduced or Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

Dave, thanks for the info. The 4 hr erection won't be a factor for me. I don't

get any wood. I got some Desyrel coming from a canadian pharmacy. my wife has

some ambien. I've put off using until I see how the T3 med works on my rt3

problem. I'm gonna try some tonight, although I've been shoveling snow all day.

I'll probably pass out tonight.

> > > >

> > > > I was using trazadone for sleep(worked great!), but have switched to

meletonin w/ good results.

> > > > I am also tapering VERY slowly off cymbalta, and so far I feel great. I

expect it to take 6 mos to one year to taper off.

> > > >

> > > > Doctors should really take a closer look at hormones before prescribing

anti-depressants.

> > > >

> > > > Steve

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@ >

> > > >

> > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 4:08:39 PM

> > > > Subject: Reduced or Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

> > > >

> > > > Many years ago, my doctor prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia,

anxiety and depression. I didn't then and don't now have sleep apnea. However,

even though falling asleep wasn't too much of an issue, I'd wake up many times

during the night. Often, all I would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock

to see if it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the more I did this, the

more anxious I'd become. Fortunately, Trazodone seemed to do the trick, allowing

me to sleep through the night.

> > > >

> > > > At that time, I was taking 300 mg just before retiring for the night.

One problem I experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next morning until about

mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the amount of Trazodone I was taking. At the

same time, I began taking Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course of

treatment for depression continued with some variances over the next fifteen

years.

> > > >

> > > > Since beginning TRT last August, I've discontinued taking both Welbutrin

and more recently Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all depressed, which is

great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any depression I felt before.

> > > >

> > > > It has been about two weeks since I stopped taking Trazodone. My ending

dosage was 75 mg per night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out and thought

what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't recommend doing this. Coming off

Trazodone can make one feel really sick with flu like symptoms. My sleep

patterns are not as good as they were while on Trazodone, but they are gradually

getting better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone else had similar experiences with reduced or an eliminated

need for anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > >

February 11, 2010

Thanks for the info. 25mg is how I plan on using it. If I ever get my hormones

regulated, hopefully I will not need it any longer. It was suggested to me by

someone on another board to supplement with iodine, to support the thyroid. The

T3 dose I'm taking isn't doing jack.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was using trazadone for sleep(worked great!), but have switched to

meletonin w/ good results.

> > > > > I am also tapering VERY slowly off cymbalta, and so far I feel great.

I expect it to take 6 mos to one year to taper off.

> > > > >

> > > > > Doctors should really take a closer look at hormones before

prescribing anti-depressants.

> > > > >

> > > > > Steve

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 4:08:39 PM

> > > > > Subject: Reduced or Eliminated Need for

Anti-depressants

> > > > >

> > > > > Many years ago, my doctor prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia,

anxiety and depression. I didn't then and don't now have sleep apnea. However,

even though falling asleep wasn't too much of an issue, I'd wake up many times

during the night. Often, all I would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock

to see if it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the more I did this, the

more anxious I'd become. Fortunately, Trazodone seemed to do the trick, allowing

me to sleep through the night.

> > > > >

> > > > > At that time, I was taking 300 mg just before retiring for the night.

One problem I experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next morning until about

mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the amount of Trazodone I was taking. At the

same time, I began taking Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course of

treatment for depression continued with some variances over the next fifteen

years.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since beginning TRT last August, I've discontinued taking both

Welbutrin and more recently Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all depressed,

which is great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any depression I felt before.

> > > > >

> > > > > It has been about two weeks since I stopped taking Trazodone. My

ending dosage was 75 mg per night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out and

thought what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't recommend doing this. Coming

off Trazodone can make one feel really sick with flu like symptoms. My sleep

patterns are not as good as they were while on Trazodone, but they are gradually

getting better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone else had similar experiences with reduced or an eliminated

need for anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > > >

February 11, 2010

I take Iodoral (12.5 mg)/day I feel everyone needs this.

http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/order.html

http://www.ithyroid.com/latest_ideas.htm

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: Re: Re Reduced or Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

>

> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 11:45 AM

> Thanks for the info. 25mg is how I

> plan on using it. If I ever get my hormones regulated,

> hopefully I will not need it any longer. It was suggested to

> me by someone on another board to supplement with iodine, to

> support the thyroid. The T3 dose I'm taking isn't doing

> jack.

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was using trazadone for

> sleep(worked great!), but have switched to meletonin w/ good

> results.

> > > > > > I am also tapering VERY slowly off

> cymbalta, and so far I feel great. I expect it to take 6 mos

> to one year to taper off.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Doctors should really take a

> closer look at hormones before prescribing

> anti-depressants.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Steve

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________

> __

> > > > > > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@

> >

> > > > > > @ groups.

> com

> > > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010

> 4:08:39 PM

> > > > > > Subject: Reduced or

> Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many years ago, my doctor

> prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia, anxiety and

> depression. I didn't then and don't now have sleep apnea.

> However, even though falling asleep wasn't too much of an

> issue, I'd wake up many times during the night. Often, all I

> would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock to see if

> it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the more I did

> this, the more anxious I'd become. Fortunately, Trazodone

> seemed to do the trick, allowing me to sleep through the

> night.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At that time, I was taking 300 mg

> just before retiring for the night. One problem I

> experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next morning until

> about mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the amount of

> Trazodone I was taking. At the same time, I began taking

> Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course of treatment

> for depression continued with some variances over the next

> fifteen years.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since beginning TRT last August,

> I've discontinued taking both Welbutrin and more recently

> Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all depressed, which is

> great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any depression I

> felt before.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It has been about two weeks since

> I stopped taking Trazodone. My ending dosage was 75 mg per

> night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out and thought

> what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't recommend doing

> this. Coming off Trazodone can make one feel really sick

> with flu like symptoms. My sleep patterns are not as good as

> they were while on Trazodone, but they are gradually getting

> better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Has anyone else had similar

> experiences with reduced or an eliminated need for

> anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> have been removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

February 11, 2010

Phil, how do you feel this is benefiting you? Do you think it improves your

sleep? The link that that you provided is long but i intend to read it. Thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was using trazadone for

> > sleep(worked great!), but have switched to meletonin w/ good

> > results.

> > > > > > > I am also tapering VERY slowly off

> > cymbalta, and so far I feel great. I expect it to take 6 mos

> > to one year to taper off.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Doctors should really take a

> > closer look at hormones before prescribing

> > anti-depressants.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Steve

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________

> > __

> > > > > > > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@

> > >

> > > > > > > @ groups.

> > com

> > > > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010

> > 4:08:39 PM

> > > > > > > Subject: Reduced or

> > Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many years ago, my doctor

> > prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia, anxiety and

> > depression. I didn't then and don't now have sleep apnea.

> > However, even though falling asleep wasn't too much of an

> > issue, I'd wake up many times during the night. Often, all I

> > would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock to see if

> > it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the more I did

> > this, the more anxious I'd become. Fortunately, Trazodone

> > seemed to do the trick, allowing me to sleep through the

> > night.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > At that time, I was taking 300 mg

> > just before retiring for the night. One problem I

> > experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next morning until

> > about mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the amount of

> > Trazodone I was taking. At the same time, I began taking

> > Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course of treatment

> > for depression continued with some variances over the next

> > fifteen years.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since beginning TRT last August,

> > I've discontinued taking both Welbutrin and more recently

> > Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all depressed, which is

> > great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any depression I

> > felt before.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It has been about two weeks since

> > I stopped taking Trazodone. My ending dosage was 75 mg per

> > night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out and thought

> > what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't recommend doing

> > this. Coming off Trazodone can make one feel really sick

> > with flu like symptoms. My sleep patterns are not as good as

> > they were while on Trazodone, but they are gradually getting

> > better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Has anyone else had similar

> > experiences with reduced or an eliminated need for

> > anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> > have been removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

February 11, 2010

Over all it helped me with my Thyroid meds they work better and I started to

feel better. I have a link some where about Iodine and why everyone in the USA

eating corn fed meat we don't get what we need and we don't eat enough shell

fish to being levels up. Dr. Brownstein, MD's book

Iodine, Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It.

I have form women that he cured there Brest cancer with Iodine.

https://www.drbrownstein.com/homePage.php

http://www.quackcenter.com/ideficiency.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: Re: Re Reduced or Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

>

> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 1:04 PM

> Phil, how do you feel this is

> benefiting you? Do you think it improves your sleep? The

> link that that you provided is long but i intend to read it.

> Thanks.

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I was using trazadone

> for

> > > sleep(worked great!), but have switched to

> meletonin w/ good

> > > results.

> > > > > > > > I am also tapering VERY

> slowly off

> > > cymbalta, and so far I feel great. I expect it to

> take 6 mos

> > > to one year to taper off.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Doctors should really

> take a

> > > closer look at hormones before prescribing

> > > anti-depressants.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Steve

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________

> _________

> > > __

> > > > > > > > From: Primemuscle

> <Primemuscle@

> > > >

> > > > > > > > @

> groups.

> > > com

> > > > > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7,

> 2010

> > > 4:08:39 PM

> > > > > > > > Subject:

> Reduced or

> > > Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Many years ago, my

> doctor

> > > prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia, anxiety

> and

> > > depression. I didn't then and don't now have

> sleep apnea.

> > > However, even though falling asleep wasn't too

> much of an

> > > issue, I'd wake up many times during the night.

> Often, all I

> > > would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock

> to see if

> > > it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the

> more I did

> > > this, the more anxious I'd become. Fortunately,

> Trazodone

> > > seemed to do the trick, allowing me to sleep

> through the

> > > night.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > At that time, I was

> taking 300 mg

> > > just before retiring for the night. One problem

> I

> > > experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next

> morning until

> > > about mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the

> amount of

> > > Trazodone I was taking. At the same time, I began

> taking

> > > Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course

> of treatment

> > > for depression continued with some variances over

> the next

> > > fifteen years.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since beginning TRT last

> August,

> > > I've discontinued taking both Welbutrin and more

> recently

> > > Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all

> depressed, which is

> > > great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any

> depression I

> > > felt before.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It has been about two

> weeks since

> > > I stopped taking Trazodone. My ending dosage was

> 75 mg per

> > > night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out

> and thought

> > > what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't

> recommend doing

> > > this. Coming off Trazodone can make one feel

> really sick

> > > with flu like symptoms. My sleep patterns are not

> as good as

> > > they were while on Trazodone, but they are

> gradually getting

> > > better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Has anyone else had

> similar

> > > experiences with reduced or an eliminated need

> for

> > > anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of

> this message

> > > have been removed]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

February 11, 2010

Jim adding shit to the mix is only going to mask the true problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was using trazadone for sleep(worked great!), but have switched to

meletonin w/ good results.

> > > > > I am also tapering VERY slowly off cymbalta, and so far I feel great.

I expect it to take 6 mos to one year to taper off.

> > > > >

> > > > > Doctors should really take a closer look at hormones before

prescribing anti-depressants.

> > > > >

> > > > > Steve

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 4:08:39 PM

> > > > > Subject: Reduced or Eliminated Need for

Anti-depressants

> > > > >

> > > > > Many years ago, my doctor prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia,

anxiety and depression. I didn't then and don't now have sleep apnea. However,

even though falling asleep wasn't too much of an issue, I'd wake up many times

during the night. Often, all I would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock

to see if it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the more I did this, the

more anxious I'd become. Fortunately, Trazodone seemed to do the trick, allowing

me to sleep through the night.

> > > > >

> > > > > At that time, I was taking 300 mg just before retiring for the night.

One problem I experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next morning until about

mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the amount of Trazodone I was taking. At the

same time, I began taking Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course of

treatment for depression continued with some variances over the next fifteen

years.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since beginning TRT last August, I've discontinued taking both

Welbutrin and more recently Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all depressed,

which is great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any depression I felt before.

> > > > >

> > > > > It has been about two weeks since I stopped taking Trazodone. My

ending dosage was 75 mg per night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out and

thought what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't recommend doing this. Coming

off Trazodone can make one feel really sick with flu like symptoms. My sleep

patterns are not as good as they were while on Trazodone, but they are gradually

getting better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone else had similar experiences with reduced or an eliminated

need for anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > > >

February 12, 2010

Excellent point.

________________________________

From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 11:27:49 PM

Subject: Re: Re Reduced or Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

Jim adding shit to the mix is only going to mask the true problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was using trazadone for sleep(worked great!), but have switched to

meletonin w/ good results.

> > > > > I am also tapering VERY slowly off cymbalta, and so far I feel great.

I expect it to take 6 mos to one year to taper off.

> > > > >

> > > > > Doctors should really take a closer look at hormones before

prescribing anti-depressants.

> > > > >

> > > > > Steve

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 4:08:39 PM

> > > > > Subject: Reduced or Eliminated Need for

Anti-depressants

> > > > >

> > > > > Many years ago, my doctor prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia,

anxiety and depression. I didn't then and don't now have sleep apnea. However,

even though falling asleep wasn't too much of an issue, I'd wake up many times

during the night. Often, all I would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock

to see if it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the more I did this, the

more anxious I'd become. Fortunately, Trazodone seemed to do the trick, allowing

me to sleep through the night.

> > > > >

> > > > > At that time, I was taking 300 mg just before retiring for the night.

One problem I experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next morning until about

mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the amount of Trazodone I was taking. At the

same time, I began taking Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course of

treatment for depression continued with some variances over the next fifteen

years.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since beginning TRT last August, I've discontinued taking both

Welbutrin and more recently Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all depressed,

which is great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any depression I felt before.

> > > > >

> > > > > It has been about two weeks since I stopped taking Trazodone. My

ending dosage was 75 mg per night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out and

thought what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't recommend doing this. Coming

off Trazodone can make one feel really sick with flu like symptoms. My sleep

patterns are not as good as they were while on Trazodone, but they are gradually

getting better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone else had similar experiences with reduced or an eliminated

need for anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > > >

February 12, 2010

Yes! Especially powerful psychotropic medications.

I hate to see even a SSRI on board before I get to work.

Be well!

Regards,

Crisler, DO

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I can't see adding something to help my sleep a little as being a problem. I

have to cut the T3 med back to 5mcg.It's wiring the shit out of me for some

reason. At least this med is the only added variable that I can attribute to my

increase in bp and pulse rate of late. I wake up with my heart racing like shit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was using trazadone for sleep(worked great!), but have switched to

meletonin w/ good results.

> > > > > > I am also tapering VERY slowly off cymbalta, and so far I feel

great. I expect it to take 6 mos to one year to taper off.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Doctors should really take a closer look at hormones before

prescribing anti-depressants.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Steve

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 4:08:39 PM

> > > > > > Subject: Reduced or Eliminated Need for

Anti-depressants

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many years ago, my doctor prescribed Trazodone for mild insomnia,

anxiety and depression. I didn't then and don't now have sleep apnea. However,

even though falling asleep wasn't too much of an issue, I'd wake up many times

during the night. Often, all I would do when I woke up was check the alarm clock

to see if it was time to get up yet or not. Of course the more I did this, the

more anxious I'd become. Fortunately, Trazodone seemed to do the trick, allowing

me to sleep through the night.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At that time, I was taking 300 mg just before retiring for the

night. One problem I experienced was that I'd feel groggy the next morning until

about mid-day. Eventually, I cut back on the amount of Trazodone I was taking.

At the same time, I began taking Wellbrutrin XL to treat depression. This course

of treatment for depression continued with some variances over the next fifteen

years.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since beginning TRT last August, I've discontinued taking both

Welbutrin and more recently Trazodone. So far, I've not felt at all depressed,

which is great. Perhaps the TRT is helping relieve any depression I felt before.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It has been about two weeks since I stopped taking Trazodone. My

ending dosage was 75 mg per night. I should have tapered off, but I ran out and

thought what the heck, I'll just quit now. I don't recommend doing this. Coming

off Trazodone can make one feel really sick with flu like symptoms. My sleep

patterns are not as good as they were while on Trazodone, but they are gradually

getting better. I feel rested most of the time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Has anyone else had similar experiences with reduced or an

eliminated need for anti-depressant medications since beginning TRT?

> > > > > >

February 12, 2010

Dr. J, I have not had a decent nights sleep in months. I'm starting to go crazy.

my work and life with my wife is suffering. Just listen to some of the rants be

me here. I don't mean to be this way, i'm just going crazy.

>

> Yes! Especially powerful psychotropic medications.

>

> I hate to see even a SSRI on board before I get to work.

>

> Be well!

>

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> Crisler, DO

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February 12, 2010

Hi

Have you had your adrenals and ferritin tested while on t3?

Sky

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From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

Sent: Fri, 12 February, 2010 8:42:41 PM

Subject: Re: Re Reduced or Eliminated Need for Anti-depressants

I can't see adding something to help my sleep a little as being a problem. I

have to cut the T3 med back to 5mcg.It's wiring the shit out of me for some

reason. At least this med is the only added variable that I can attribute to my

increase in bp and pulse rate of late. I wake up with my heart racing like shit.

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