Re: numbers on 5 grams androgel/day

[Guest guest]

 You may want to confer w/your cardiologist because such high levels of T may

produce undesired cardiovascular effects.  Let us know.

From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...>

Subject: numbers on 5 grams androgel/day

Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 4:06 PM

 

for those of you taking androgel-- FYI

60 year old male

numbers on 5 g/day androgel-- 20 HRS since last application

total test = 605 ng/dl (250-1100)

free test = 111.7 pg/ml (46-224)

bioavail test = 234.6 ng/dl (110.-575)

SHBG = 23 nmol/L  (17-54)

SERUM ALBUMIN = 4.6 g/dl (3.6-5.1)

E2 = 23

PSA = 2.2 ng/ml (0.0-4.5) (ok but higher than ever-- was 1.0 last year.

Total Cholesterol = 186 <200 (ok)

HDL = 43  40-59 (ok)

LDL 124 <100  ( a bit high)

triglyceri des = 101 (<150)

DHEA SULFATE =144mcg/dl (25-95)  HIGH

COMMENTS--

1. LIBIDO THROUGH ROOF

2. ERECTIONS PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT GREAT-- USE GENERIC VIAGRA OR Levitra

3. strength = good but has been better

4. stamina = good, can do 1 hr of hard cardio, 5 days/week

5.  apply androgel to shoulders and back always post shower-- extra goes on

thighs up to penis and the shrinking " boys "

6. no HCG-- yet but plan on taking it

7. thoughts on using HCG with these numbers  if I was diagnosed as a

primary??? 

8. being using androgel for 4 years-- at various doses-- up to 10 grams/day

which pushed total test = 1800

9. very obvious to me Androgel is more effective with some of us than others--

some are just good absorbers I think????

Any reason to increase dose to 7.5 g/day??

thoughts/comments welcome

[Guest guest]

high levels??  I am right in the middle of the range!!!

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From: jesse johns <jesse_johns@...>

Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 5:34:11 PM

Subject: Re: numbers on 5 grams androgel/day

 

 You may want to confer w/your cardiologist because such high levels of T may

produce undesired cardiovascular effects.  Let us know.

From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...>

Subject: numbers on 5 grams androgel/day

Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 4:06 PM

 

for those of you taking androgel-- FYI

60 year old male

numbers on 5 g/day androgel-- 20 HRS since last application

total test = 605 ng/dl (250-1100)

free test = 111.7 pg/ml (46-224)

bioavail test = 234.6 ng/dl (110.-575)

SHBG = 23 nmol/L  (17-54)

SERUM ALBUMIN = 4.6 g/dl (3.6-5.1)

E2 = 23

PSA = 2.2 ng/ml (0.0-4.5) (ok but higher than ever-- was 1.0 last year.

Total Cholesterol = 186 <200 (ok)

HDL = 43  40-59 (ok)

LDL 124 <100  ( a bit high)

triglyceri des = 101 (<150)

DHEA SULFATE =144mcg/dl (25-95)  HIGH

COMMENTS--

1. LIBIDO THROUGH ROOF

2. ERECTIONS PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT GREAT-- USE GENERIC VIAGRA OR Levitra

3. strength = good but has been better

4. stamina = good, can do 1 hr of hard cardio, 5 days/week

5.  apply androgel to shoulders and back always post shower-- extra goes on

thighs up to penis and the shrinking " boys "

6. no HCG-- yet but plan on taking it

7. thoughts on using HCG with these numbers  if I was diagnosed as a

primary??? 

8. being using androgel for 4 years-- at various doses-- up to 10 grams/day

which pushed total test = 1800

9. very obvious to me Androgel is more effective with some of us than others--

some are just good absorbers I think????

Any reason to increase dose to 7.5 g/day??

thoughts/comments welcome

[Guest guest]

For me I don't do great at them levels for sec hormones I do much better over

800. You are lucky I could not get numbers that high on 10 grams of gel.

I would add in HCG doing 250 IU's every 3 days this will get your testis working

there best. Have you ever tested your DHT levels on gels they can go up very

high. Mine were 3x's above the top of the range.

You might try 7.5 see if you feel better. Are you taking DHEA supplements to

much DHEA can turn into Estradiol.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...>

> Subject: numbers on 5 grams androgel/day

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 5:06 PM

> for those of you taking androgel--

> FYI

>

> 60 year old male

>

> numbers on 5 g/day androgel-- 20 HRS since last

> application

>

> total test = 605 ng/dl (250-1100)

> free test = 111.7 pg/ml (46-224)

> bioavail test = 234.6 ng/dl (110.-575)

> SHBG = 23 nmol/L  (17-54)

> SERUM ALBUMIN = 4.6 g/dl (3.6-5.1)

>

> E2 = 23

> PSA = 2.2 ng/ml (0.0-4.5) (ok but higher than ever-- was

> 1.0 last year.

>

> Total Cholesterol = 186 <200 (ok)

> HDL = 43  40-59 (ok)

> LDL 124 <100  ( a bit high)

> triglyceri des = 101 (<150)

>

>

> DHEA SULFATE =144mcg/dl (25-95)  HIGH

>

> COMMENTS--

> 1. LIBIDO THROUGH ROOF

> 2. ERECTIONS PRETTY GOOD BUT NOT GREAT-- USE GENERIC VIAGRA

> OR Levitra

> 3. strength = good but has been better

> 4. stamina = good, can do 1 hr of hard cardio, 5 days/week

> 5.  apply androgel to shoulders and back always post

> shower-- extra goes on

> thighs up to penis and the shrinking " boys "

> 6. no HCG-- yet but plan on taking it

> 7. thoughts on using HCG with these numbers  if I was

> diagnosed as a primary??? 

>

> 8. being using androgel for 4 years-- at various doses-- up

> to 10 grams/day

> which pushed total test = 1800

> 9. very obvious to me Androgel is more effective with some

> of us than others--

> some are just good absorbers I think????

>

> Any reason to increase dose to 7.5 g/day??

>

> thoughts/comments welcome

>

>

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