HGH

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Dear Sabra:

HGH can be taken as an homeopathic remedy, meaning not much actual hormone

in it or you can get remedies that contain only precursors, no actual HGH.

There does seem to be some merit in keeping HGH fairly high, but it can also

be iffy when any form of cancer may exist.

The GH made for cows is a GE Monsanto aberration which simply drives the

cows metabolism up so she gives more milk...with lots more estrogen in it

and some more side effects. This is elaborated in Cohen's notmilk

URL.

I personally would not take the bovine derived HGH. I am trying the amino

acid precursors and have not yet observed any great results.

The best ways of beating aging is to:

1-keep thyroid function up {and Thyrodine will do this]

2-utilize a natural progesterone [We now have a Progespray or oral

progesterone which has a 99% absorption and has adrenal stress and

anti-oxidant herbs in it.

3-follow essentially a Hallelujah diet plan [see www.hacres.com]

4-use chlorella, spirulina or SuperFood, a well designed all natural greens

formula by Dr. Schulze [available from... healthfree@...]

Best wishes,

Earl

[Guest guest]

Dear Earl, thankyou you for clearing that up. Sabra

>Dear Sabra:

>HGH can be taken as an homeopathic remedy, meaning not much actual hormone

>in it or you can get remedies that contain only precursors, no actual HGH.

>There does seem to be some merit in keeping HGH fairly high, but it can

>also

>be iffy when any form of cancer may exist.

>The GH made for cows is a GE Monsanto aberration which simply drives the

>cows metabolism up so she gives more milk...with lots more estrogen in it

>and some more side effects. This is elaborated in Cohen's notmilk

>URL.

>I personally would not take the bovine derived HGH. I am trying the amino

>acid precursors and have not yet observed any great results.

>The best ways of beating aging is to:

>1-keep thyroid function up {and Thyrodine will do this]

>2-utilize a natural progesterone [We now have a Progespray or oral

>progesterone which has a 99% absorption and has adrenal stress and

>anti-oxidant herbs in it.

>3-follow essentially a Hallelujah diet plan [see www.hacres.com]

>4-use chlorella, spirulina or SuperFood, a well designed all natural greens

>formula by Dr. Schulze [available from... healthfree@...]

>Best wishes,

>Earl

>

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Thanks Jeanine, on the info on HGH

Sincerely, Mark Chiocchi

[ ] HGH

Most HGH supps are a stacking of amino acids which allow certain proteins to be produced, and stumilate productin of certain growth factors in the body. The HGH itself can be danerous to teh body. Most HGH supps are the precursors to HGH, and relatively safe. These precurser hormones are created by progressive resistance exercise as well. They do address conditions associated with aging and help to slow the process some.

The only way to completely stop the aging proces is to eliminte free radical damage in the body. Free radicals steal hydrogen bonds from the DNA, causing it to twist...this is the aging process, and it the precursor to all sickeness and disease, including the disease of aging..

The Master Amino Acid Pattern provides the proper proprtioning of 8 essential aminos which allow the body to create every other essential amino it needs, and then some.

Active H- restores the hydrogen bonds to the DNA, untwisting the DNA..not just slowing or stopping the aging process, but reversing the aging process...as in your gray hair returns to the normal color, your wrinkles go away without surgery, your age spots disappear, and every symptom associated with aging is corrected. This is true anti-agin. In fact this stuff was originaly marketed as the premier anti-aging supp. HYPE and who cares! Fact is, it creates an environment in my body where no pathogen not even HCV can live. That's why I take it....so what if my gray is gone....I should have been dead 2 years ago....

How about priorities.... Recover first, then we can see about living forever.

Aging is a disease. Our bodies need not suffer degenerative diseases making us dependent on Rx to get out of bed until we die in some vegetative state. 80% of retirees are on Rx drugs. We are not supposed to degrade...we are supposed to just stop working one day, not slowly waste away in misery, clinging to life.

Jeff can explain this better. You can email him at jbailey@....

Peace, Jeanine

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[Guest guest]

Hi Guys - I researched an HGH product a while ago. I wish I could

remember the name of it. It was not strictly HGH but something that

enabled the body to produce its own HGH more easily. I heard about it

on the radio and then found it online. From what I remember, the

inventor(?) talked about how taking HGH itself was not a good thing.

I was thinking about getting it. If I find the info, I will post.

Love. Karolyn

> Thanks Jeanine, on the info on HGH

>

> Sincerely,

> Mark Chiocchi

> [ ] HGH

>

>

> Most HGH supps are a stacking of amino acids which allow certain

proteins to be produced, and stumilate productin of certain growth

factors in the body. The HGH itself can be danerous to teh body.

Most HGH supps are the precursors to HGH, and relatively safe. These

precurser hormones are created by progressive resistance exercise as

well. They do address conditions associated with aging and help to

slow the process some.

>

> The only way to completely stop the aging proces is to eliminte

free radical damage in the body. Free radicals steal hydrogen bonds

from the DNA, causing it to twist...this is the aging process, and it

the precursor to all sickeness and disease, including the disease of

aging..

>

> The Master Amino Acid Pattern provides the proper proprtioning of

8 essential aminos which allow the body to create every other

essential amino it needs, and then some.

>

> Active H- restores the hydrogen bonds to the DNA, untwisting the

DNA..not just slowing or stopping the aging process, but reversing

the aging process...as in your gray hair returns to the normal color,

your wrinkles go away without surgery, your age spots disappear, and

every symptom associated with aging is corrected. This is true anti-

agin. In fact this stuff was originaly marketed as the premier anti-

aging supp. HYPE and who cares! Fact is, it creates an environment

in my body where no pathogen not even HCV can live. That's why I

take it....so what if my gray is gone....I should have been dead 2

years ago....

>

> How about priorities.... Recover first, then we can see about

living forever.

>

> Aging is a disease. Our bodies need not suffer degenerative

diseases making us dependent on Rx to get out of bed until we die in

some vegetative state. 80% of retirees are on Rx drugs. We are not

supposed to degrade...we are supposed to just stop working one day,

not slowly waste away in misery, clinging to life.

>

> Jeff can explain this better. You can email him at jbailey@p...

>

>

> Peace, Jeanine

>

> http://hepchelp.homestead.com

>

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[Guest guest]

Willem, your advice is taken with great consideration!

Your Hep c free friend,

Donna

[Guest guest]

Hi.Thanks Donna.Eat the carrots and we become happy rabbits in a Hep-free Alice

in wonderland.Willem.

Re: HGH

Willem, your advice is taken with great consideration!

Your Hep c free friend,

Donna

[Guest guest]

I thought it was pretty good...but then, that's me. I'm always willing to

open my mind to alternative treatments. I have found a great deal of help in

alternative medicine. But it is dangerous to mess with growth

hormones...geesh, what if they helped the virus grow too....

HGH

> Hi.Sorry for my unscientific approach to HGH.Willem.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have been taking HGH for several years. Any product that claims

it contains HGH is only false advertising. True HGH does not have a

very long life once it has been reconstituted one month max at

present and that is stretching it. It is also very environmentally

unstable. It is an amino acid chain that is currently cultured

primarily from bacteria, only one that I know of is cultured from

mammal cells (serostem) I am familiar with the homeopathic products

and although someone might think they feel better using them they do

not really contain HGH as they are homeopathic.

Some people have good results from the amino acid products as

Duncan mentined. But if you want the results true HGH provide it is

very expensive and available by prescription only. Unless you go

black market which is still very expensive and unless you know the

patient you might end up with counterfeit product and who knows what

is in it.

TK

> To answer 's question below, a careful look at what you're

> buying reveals lots. HGH is a prescription item. If you're getting

> it with no prescription there's too little HGH in it to be useful,

> or it's homeopathic and there's still too little HGH in it to be

> useful.

>

> Plus HGH doesn't absorb through the mouth tissue anyway, even when

> complexed with sugar. That's why doctors can't just send you home

> with oral HGH.

>

> > anyone else take Colostrum or HGH?

> Colostrum on the other hand contains Bovine IGF-1, one of the

> active forms of bovine growth hormone.

>

> Vastly more details on HGH therapy are on a friend's website:

> http://members.shaw.ca/patriciagilbert/ including " The Straight

> Goods on HGH "

>

> Doctors who are specialists use amino acids as a first choice and

> HGH injections as a second choice. I have 45 clients on an amino

> acids blend who would never part with it. It is inexpensive

> compared to shots, equally effective in the long term, and much

> safer.

>

> Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

www.greenwillowtree.com also offers a good sublingual HGH. take a peek

bigcolli <untmp3@...> wrote:Anyone know where I can order HgH and get it

delivered to Canada? I

haven't grown in about 4 years and am interested in taking some.

[Guest guest]

,

The ingredients you gave us:

> ...Ingredients: Somatotrophin (HGH) 10X/30X, Avena Sativa 3C, Glycyrrhiza

> glabra 3C, Arginine 4C, Glutamine 4C, Isoleucine 4C, Leucine 4C, Lysine

> 4C, Ornithine 4C, Valine 4C, Colostrum 5C, Gonadostimuline 5C, ATP 6C,

> Glycogen 6C, Cortisone 12C, purified water,10% ethanol, 8% vegetable

> glycerin.

> Indications: Optimize energy, for tiredness, difficulty sleeping. Please

> consult the accompanying literature. Lot # 53344.

>

> So there you have it. I don't know what the " C " stands for, I could call

> and ask them. ...

This is homeopathic notation. C stands for centuries of dilution. A 4C

dilution means it was diluted four times, each by mixing one part with

99. Thus, if you started out with a pure substance, a 4C dilution means

you have one part in 100^4 or one part in 100 million. You would get

those concentrations of these amino acids by rinsing a chicken breast.

They are called " releasers, " because they are supposed to constitute or

protect the real HGH in the blood. That alleged effect has never been

proven.

Similarly, a 30X dilution means you dilute a pure substance to 1/10^30

or 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. At that level of

dilution, you would not have a single molecule of HGH in an entire

swimming pool of product, even if you started with a pure quantity of

HGH. I believe the notation means that they started with a 1/10^10

dilution anyway. You would take in much more HGH by simply licking

perspiration off your own skin or by kissing someone.

The fact that HGH is not absorbed orally is irrelevant for these

concentrations. The molecule is too large to be absorbed through the

mouth or mucosa, and through the stomach, it is destroyed by the liver.

The cost of a prescription therapeutic injection is about $1,000 to

$1,500 per day, so it is unlikely that any of the over the counter

versions really contain any HGH, especially if taken in any manner

besides an injection.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thank you Chuck. With your permission, I will print out your answer, and send it

with the products when I return them. You have a Ph.D. in biochemistry, right?

Or what was it? .

Re: HGH

,

The ingredients you gave us:

> ...Ingredients: Somatotrophin (HGH) 10X/30X, Avena Sativa 3C, Glycyrrhiza

> glabra 3C, Arginine 4C, Glutamine 4C, Isoleucine 4C, Leucine 4C, Lysine

> 4C, Ornithine 4C, Valine 4C, Colostrum 5C, Gonadostimuline 5C, ATP 6C,

> Glycogen 6C, Cortisone 12C, purified water,10% ethanol, 8% vegetable

> glycerin.

> Indications: Optimize energy, for tiredness, difficulty sleeping. Please

> consult the accompanying literature. Lot # 53344.

>

> So there you have it. I don't know what the " C " stands for, I could call

> and ask them. ...

This is homeopathic notation. C stands for centuries of dilution. A 4C

dilution means it was diluted four times, each by mixing one part with

99. Thus, if you started out with a pure substance, a 4C dilution means

you have one part in 100^4 or one part in 100 million. You would get

those concentrations of these amino acids by rinsing a chicken breast.

They are called " releasers, " because they are supposed to constitute or

protect the real HGH in the blood. That alleged effect has never been

proven.

Similarly, a 30X dilution means you dilute a pure substance to 1/10^30

or 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. At that level of

dilution, you would not have a single molecule of HGH in an entire

swimming pool of product, even if you started with a pure quantity of

HGH. I believe the notation means that they started with a 1/10^10

dilution anyway. You would take in much more HGH by simply licking

perspiration off your own skin or by kissing someone.

The fact that HGH is not absorbed orally is irrelevant for these

concentrations. The molecule is too large to be absorbed through the

mouth or mucosa, and through the stomach, it is destroyed by the liver.

The cost of a prescription therapeutic injection is about $1,000 to

$1,500 per day, so it is unlikely that any of the over the counter

versions really contain any HGH, especially if taken in any manner

besides an injection.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

--- Sorry to tell you this, but, the only way to get HGH in your

body is by daily injections, in the skin.

All those aerosols, nose intake and segregatours of HGH are just

a rip off.

You have to go to a Doctor that will prescribe it to you, based

on your needs. Only daily injections will work, and, it is not

cheap. I inquiered my endocrinologist, and, to have a visible

effect, at least 1200 a month in HGH.

Not an easy proposition.........

In hypothyroidism , " and Mark " <koplyn@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi guys,

>

> For all of you who were somewhat suspicious, or downright

incredulous, about my HGH, I'll admit I am too, but I'll give it the

benefit of the doubt for a month, before I return it for a refund,

LOL.

>

> I thought I'd post the entire label, so you can see what it is,

and what it is NOT.

>

> Here goes:

>

> NDC 63568-101-30

> A Physicians Blend ®

> HGH

> EXTREME

> Homeopathic Oral Spray

> For Optimal Energy

> The most effective formulation

> of homeopathic somatotrophin

> on the market

> 10% USP Ethanol

> 1 FL.OZ. / 29.6 ML

>

> Directions: Adults 5 sprays under the tongue 3 times a day for the

first 7 days. Then 3 sprays under the tongue 3 times a day for 6

days per week.

> Warning: If pregnant or breast-feeding, ask a health professional

before use. Keep out of reach of children.

> Tamper feature: Bottle has full body seal imprinted with: " Sealed

for your protection " . Do not use if broken or missing.

> Manufactured for and Distributed by:

> Life Improvements

> 1812 West Sunset Blvd 4-255

> St. , UT 84770

> 1-877-797-8897

>

> Ingredients: Somatotrophin (HGH) 10X/30X, Avena Sativa 3C,

Glycyrrhiza glabra 3C, Arginine 4C, Glutamine 4C, Isoleucine 4C,

Leucine 4C, Lysine 4C, Ornithine 4C, Valine 4C, Colostrum 5C,

Gonadostimuline 5C, ATP 6C, Glycogen 6C, Cortisone 12C, purified

water,10% ethanol, 8% vegetable glycerin.

> Indications: Optimize energy, for tiredness, difficulty sleeping.

Please consult the accompanying literature. Lot # 53344.

>

> So there you have it. I don't know what the " C " stands for, I

could call and ask them.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Masiste,

Yes, I've already heard from Chuck, our resident guru on this topic. I wonder

who in the world can afford this injectable medication, and what kind of doctor

will prescribe it, and for what " condition " .

Like I said, the product probably won't hurt me, (other than in my pocket book),

so I'll use it for the prescribed length of time before I decide if it " helps " .

They give a 90 day guarantee, and you have to use it for 60 days before you can

" complain " . I'll save all your e-mail about this, print them out and enclose

with my return shipment. Thanks. .

-- Original Message -----

From: Masiste

hypothyroidism

Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:10 PM

Subject: Re: HGH

--- Sorry to tell you this, but, the only way to get HGH in your

body is by daily injections, in the skin.

All those aerosols, nose intake and segregatours of HGH are just

a rip off.

You have to go to a Doctor that will prescribe it to you, based

on your needs. Only daily injections will work, and, it is not

cheap. I inquiered my endocrinologist, and, to have a visible

effect, at least 1200 a month in HGH.

Not an easy proposition.........

In hypothyroidism , " and Mark " <koplyn@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi guys,

>

> For all of you who were somewhat suspicious, or downright

incredulous, about my HGH, I'll admit I am too, but I'll give it the

benefit of the doubt for a month, before I return it for a refund,

LOL.

>

> I thought I'd post the entire label, so you can see what it is,

and what it is NOT.

>

> Here goes:

>

> NDC 63568-101-30

> A Physicians Blend ®

> HGH

> EXTREME

> Homeopathic Oral Spray

> For Optimal Energy

> The most effective formulation

> of homeopathic somatotrophin

> on the market

> 10% USP Ethanol

> 1 FL.OZ. / 29.6 ML

>

> Directions: Adults 5 sprays under the tongue 3 times a day for the

first 7 days. Then 3 sprays under the tongue 3 times a day for 6

days per week.

> Warning: If pregnant or breast-feeding, ask a health professional

before use. Keep out of reach of children.

> Tamper feature: Bottle has full body seal imprinted with: " Sealed

for your protection " . Do not use if broken or missing.

> Manufactured for and Distributed by:

> Life Improvements

> 1812 West Sunset Blvd 4-255

> St. , UT 84770

> 1-877-797-8897

>

> Ingredients: Somatotrophin (HGH) 10X/30X, Avena Sativa 3C,

Glycyrrhiza glabra 3C, Arginine 4C, Glutamine 4C, Isoleucine 4C,

Leucine 4C, Lysine 4C, Ornithine 4C, Valine 4C, Colostrum 5C,

Gonadostimuline 5C, ATP 6C, Glycogen 6C, Cortisone 12C, purified

water,10% ethanol, 8% vegetable glycerin.

> Indications: Optimize energy, for tiredness, difficulty sleeping.

Please consult the accompanying literature. Lot # 53344.

>

> So there you have it. I don't know what the " C " stands for, I

could call and ask them.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

> Thank you Chuck. With your permission, I will print out your answer, and

> send it with the products when I return them. ...

Uh oh! Then I may get some hate mail.

At least we'll find out whether I have my dilution formulas correct.

> ... You have a Ph.D. in

> biochemistry, right? Or what was it?

Actually physics, but I hang out with chemists, too, including a couple

of biochemists.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

> ...I wonder who in the world can afford this injectable medication, and what

> kind of doctor will prescribe it, and for what " condition " . ...

Medical ethics dictates that it be conserved for children with pituitary

failure who need it for normal physical development. Siphoning from that

stream of need for middle aged people who just want to lose weight would

be unconscionable. That is another reason you probably won't get a

prescription for it any time soon.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Docs who specialise in CFS and hormones do prescribe it. For Adults -

Hertoghe for example....but they are pretty rare.

Re: HGH

--- Sorry to tell you this, but, the only way to get HGH in your

body is by daily injections, in the skin.

All those aerosols, nose intake and segregatours of HGH are just

a rip off.

You have to go to a Doctor that will prescribe it to you, based

on your needs. Only daily injections will work, and, it is not

cheap. I inquiered my endocrinologist, and, to have a visible

effect, at least 1200 a month in HGH.

Not an easy proposition.........

In hypothyroidism , " and Mark " <koplyn@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi guys,

>

> For all of you who were somewhat suspicious, or downright

incredulous, about my HGH, I'll admit I am too, but I'll give it the

benefit of the doubt for a month, before I return it for a refund,

LOL.

>

> I thought I'd post the entire label, so you can see what it is,

and what it is NOT.

>

> Here goes:

>

> NDC 63568-101-30

> A Physicians Blend ®

> HGH

> EXTREME

> Homeopathic Oral Spray

> For Optimal Energy

> The most effective formulation

> of homeopathic somatotrophin

> on the market

> 10% USP Ethanol

> 1 FL.OZ. / 29.6 ML

>

> Directions: Adults 5 sprays under the tongue 3 times a day for the

first 7 days. Then 3 sprays under the tongue 3 times a day for 6

days per week.

> Warning: If pregnant or breast-feeding, ask a health professional

before use. Keep out of reach of children.

> Tamper feature: Bottle has full body seal imprinted with: " Sealed

for your protection " . Do not use if broken or missing.

> Manufactured for and Distributed by:

> Life Improvements

> 1812 West Sunset Blvd 4-255

> St. , UT 84770

> 1-877-797-8897

>

> Ingredients: Somatotrophin (HGH) 10X/30X, Avena Sativa 3C,

Glycyrrhiza glabra 3C, Arginine 4C, Glutamine 4C, Isoleucine 4C,

Leucine 4C, Lysine 4C, Ornithine 4C, Valine 4C, Colostrum 5C,

Gonadostimuline 5C, ATP 6C, Glycogen 6C, Cortisone 12C, purified

water,10% ethanol, 8% vegetable glycerin.

> Indications: Optimize energy, for tiredness, difficulty sleeping.

Please consult the accompanying literature. Lot # 53344.

>

> So there you have it. I don't know what the " C " stands for, I

could call and ask them.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chuck,

I'm not even dreaming about getting a prescription for it. I'm not THAT bad off.

And even if I were filthy rich, that would be unethical, as you say, to take

this precious, (and rare?) substance away from needy children.

But where do they get it from? Is it another extract from some animal's tissue?

Or is it another synthetic concocted in the lab?

Re: Re: HGH

,

You wrote:

> ...I wonder who in the world can afford this injectable medication, and what

> kind of doctor will prescribe it, and for what " condition " . ...

Medical ethics dictates that it be conserved for children with pituitary

failure who need it for normal physical development. Siphoning from that

stream of need for middle aged people who just want to lose weight would

be unconscionable. That is another reason you probably won't get a

prescription for it any time soon.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

What?

It is very easily available and not even so difficult to make. A bazillion

people use it, especially the rich and famous. I am sure that within 5

years it will be a necessity for aging baby boomers. There is no reason to

deprive people of it's benefits.

Docs absolutely must get up to speed on hormones or they risk looking very

stupid.

Gracia

Medical ethics dictates that it be conserved for children with pituitary

failure who need it for normal physical development. Siphoning from that

stream of need for middle aged people who just want to lose weight would

be unconscionable. That is another reason you probably won't get a

prescription for it any time soon.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

----- it's made in a lab, it is not rare and I take it every day! I am not

depriving needy children of it.

gracia

> Chuck,

>

> I'm not even dreaming about getting a prescription for it. I'm not THAT

> bad off. And even if I were filthy rich, that would be unethical, as you

> say, to take this precious, (and rare?) substance away from needy

> children.

>

> But where do they get it from? Is it another extract from some animal's

> tissue? Or is it another synthetic concocted in the lab?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

you can get HGH off the Internet. Price varies from $8-13 per iu.

gracia

--- Sorry to tell you this, but, the only way to get HGH in your

body is by daily injections, in the skin.

All those aerosols, nose intake and segregatours of HGH are just

a rip off.

You have to go to a Doctor that will prescribe it to you, based

on your needs. Only daily injections will work, and, it is not

cheap. I inquiered my endocrinologist, and, to have a visible

effect, at least 1200 a month in HGH.

Not an easy proposition.........

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[Guest guest]

,

You asked:

> ... But where do they get it from? Is it another extract from some animal's

> tissue? Or is it another synthetic concocted in the lab?

It is synthetic, but the process is rather expensive. The only natural

source is human pituitaries. Animal versions don't work.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Gracia wrote:

>

> What?

> It is very easily available and not even so difficult to make. A

> bazillion people use it, especially the rich and famous. ...

But not legally since 1991. Legal uses are quite restricted by federal

law, even though it has become available. Much of what is sold as HGH is

fraudulent.

Here is a summary of the effect of these restrictions and who gets

around them:

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2006/tc20060306_648859.htm?cam\

paign_id=topStories_ssi_5

Here is a blurb from The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine:

[begin quote]

Growth hormone is clearly indicated for hormone-deficient children who

would otherwise remain extremely short. Until the early 1980s, they were

the only ones eligible to receive it; because it was harvested from

human cadavers, supplies were limited. But genetic engineering changed

that, and the hormone can now be manufactured in mass quantities. This

has led pharmaceutical houses to eye a huge potential market: healthy

children who are simply shorter than average.

Short stature, of course, is not a disease. The problems short children

face relate only to how others react to their height and their own

feelings about it. The hGH injection, on the other hand, poses

significant risks, both physical and psychological.

These injections are linked in some studies to a potential for increased

cancer risk,5-8 are painful, and may aggravate, rather than reduce, the

stigma of short stature.9,10 Moreover, while growth rate is increased in

the short term, it is unclear that the final net height of the child is

significantly increased by the treatment.

The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine worked to halt these

experiments and recommended that the biological and psychological

effects of hGH treatment be studied in hormone-deficient children who

already receive hGH, and that non-pharmacologic interventions to

counteract the stigma of short stature also be investigated.

Unfortunately, the hGH studies have continued without modification,

putting healthy short children at risk.

[end quote]

Chuck

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Gracia wrote:

>

> you can get HGH off the Internet. Price varies from $8-13 per iu.

Again, unless it is an expensive injection, it cannot be real.

Chuck

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what I get is real! It is injectable, Serostim somatropin (rDNA) made in

Switzerland. I think China is also making it too.

Hertoghe says it is the one thing he would not want to be without. There is

this big disconnect between the way conventional medicine uses hormones (or

does not) and what people are doing for themselves.

Gracia

Gracia wrote:

>

> you can get HGH off the Internet. Price varies from $8-13 per iu.

Again, unless it is an expensive injection, it cannot be real.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

Chuck - So how many IU do you need per injection? I thought you said it was

like $1000 per injection.

Charly in Las Vegas

Re: Re: HGH

what I get is real! It is injectable, Serostim somatropin (rDNA) made in

Switzerland. I think China is also making it too.

Hertoghe says it is the one thing he would not want to be without. There is

this big disconnect between the way conventional medicine uses hormones (or

does not) and what people are doing for themselves.

Gracia

Gracia wrote:

>

> you can get HGH off the Internet. Price varies from $8-13 per iu.

Again, unless it is an expensive injection, it cannot be real.

Chuck

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