Re: I've been a b*tch the past couple of days!

[Guest guest]

Hay Fisherman,

High Estradiol makes me emotional. When T drops too low, or pain (and you

might know if you had that) makes me irritable. Trying to go too long on T

shot dosing can make you feel like crap when you get near the end of your

scheduled. Not knowing what is wrong with you, now that could do it! I

hope you get it worked out.

PS: Another thought, if your T is too high, over the top of the range, now

I think that could make you irritable but maybe just aggressive or impatient

from what I have read. Brett

I've been a b*tch the past couple of days!

> Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has been getting on my

> nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr.

> this Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most

> likely off that has me so irritable?

[Guest guest]

I would check thyroid and cortisol. Both high and low can cause that.

>

> Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has been getting on my

nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr. this

Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most likely off

that has me so irritable?

>

[Guest guest]

High estradiol or teenagers. At least that is what does it for me.

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On Behalf Of forced2fish

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:49 PM

Subject: I've been a b*tch the past couple of days!

Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has been getting on my

nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr.

this Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most

likely off that has me so irritable?

[Guest guest]

Low adrenal reserves does this for me --EL

>

> Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has been getting on my

nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr. this

Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most likely off

that has me so irritable?

>

[Guest guest]

Your Estradiol will do this I even have such bad anxiety that it gives me panic

attacks.

Here is what I am have done at Quest Labs

Estradiol sensitive Code #4021

Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X.

One why to tell if your Estraidol levels are to high is you lose night time and

morning wood.

The best level is 20 pg/ml if our over 50 you need arimidex to bring this down

start with .5mgs every other day. Let me know if your in need of this I will

tell you how to take this so you don't go to low.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: forced2fish <ruca4life@...>

> Subject: I've been a b*tch the past couple of days!

>

> Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:49 PM

> Seriously it's been bad! Everybody

> and everything has been getting on my nerves!haha..I started

> testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr. this

> Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what

> is most likely off that has me so irritable? 

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the responses everyone! Well I haven't killed anyone yet, but I've

still been pretty irritable! I'm very aware of it, which is the funny part. I

still have my normal sense of humor, it's just more stuff is getting on my

nerves and I'm more care free about being grumpy. Yesterday I managed to piss

off my ex (who I'm still cool with) and a current prospect, I knew it...and

didn't care!haha

Like I said, I'm right at a month on TRT and going to my doc for a follow up

this Thurs. He specializes in it so fortunately I don't have to deal with some

of the nightmares that others do, regarding terrible docs. If anyone needs an

open minded doc in South Florida, let me know!

From everything I have read, I do think that it's my estradiol levels. I

actually think this is the last thing I need to get dialed in as I have been a

little up and down since starting TRT. Question regarding that.....Do I even

need the test, or could I just try the arimidex and see if that does the trick?

Also, is arimidex the one that is very expensive? I'm not insured so this is a

concern for me. Is there anything that I can get at the nutrition store that

will help in the mean time? Phil I know you answer the same questions over and

over, and it is much appreciated!

Randall

>

> Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has been getting on my

nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr. this

Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most likely off

that has me so irritable?

>

[Guest guest]

If you don't have good night time and morning wood or even ED problem yes it's

Estradiol get some Indolplex/DIM take one Tablet at Dinner time. Don't use

cheap crap it will not work. Or by Arimidex from the ADC.

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

http://www.alldaychemist.com/75_Arimidex-1mg

The following are copys of files I made about use this them.

====================================================

ALL ABOUT DIM.

Sure here is a few links that are all about it. But there are a lot of Co.'s

out there selling DIM that don't work well. Indolplex/DIM is the best it dose

not get killed in your stomach when you take it.

Diindolylmethane (DIM) is a stable indole found in cruciferous vegetables which

promotes a beneficial estrogen metabolism in both women and men.

http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm

in this link it's full of links about it.

http://qualitycounts.com/fpdim.html

http://www.jbc.org/content/278/23/21136.full

If you have DIM in caps it's not Indolplex so to take this and to get it to work

open the cap pore the DIM into a spoon add some Olive oil and take it this helps

to keep it from getting killed in your stomach.

The following is some links to where you can buy Indolplex/DIM.

http://www.vitaglo.com/e5336.html

http://www.vitacost.com/EnzymaticTherapyEstroBalancewithDIM/searchby-PN/searchte\

xt-dim

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

http://www.estrobalance.net/

http://www.easyhealthzone.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PP0108 & click=71

http://www.nbizz.com/longevityclinic/listings/213.html

http://www.drugnatural.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD & Store_Code=DMOS & Product_\

Code=156497

http://www.smartbomb.com/itindo9.html?utm_source=mercent & utm_medium=shopcompare & \

utm_content=itindo9 & utm_campaign=mbsdb & mr:trackingCode=C6AEFBD1-E681-DE11-B7F3-0\

019B9C043EB & mr:referralID=NA

http://www.ritecare.com/cgi-bin/cart.pl?db=product_db.dat & category=natural+medic\

ine & method=any_words & search=iti-75336

http://www.naturamart.com/phytopharmica-pms-formula-with-indoplex-120-caps.html

How to take Indolplex/DIM take one tablet 120 mgs at dinner time it can take 2

weeks to 2 months to get your Estradiol levels down it’s all about how high

you are in your levels. What you need to do is get this down to about 20 pg/ml.

When you get this low your night time and morning wood will come back so strong

it will wake you up this means most of the time your at your best levels or what

I call the sweet spot. Keep taking the DIM but if your wood stops your going

down to low so just stop taking it. The day your wood comes back go back on

the DIM but cut the tablet in half. If your Testosterone was tested and low but

your not on TRT get it tested again you might find your levels came up some 200

to 300 points.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174

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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: forced2fish <ruca4life@...>

> Subject: Re: I've been a b*tch the past couple of days!

>

> Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 11:04 AM

> Thanks for the responses everyone!

> Well I haven't killed anyone yet, but I've still been pretty

> irritable! I'm very aware of it, which is the funny part. I

> still have my normal sense of humor, it's just more stuff is

> getting on my nerves and I'm more care free about being

> grumpy. Yesterday I managed to piss off my ex (who I'm still

> cool with) and a current prospect, I knew it...and didn't

> care!haha

>

> Like I said, I'm right at a month on TRT and going to my

> doc for a follow up this Thurs. He specializes in it so

> fortunately I don't have to deal with some of the nightmares

> that others do, regarding terrible docs. If anyone needs an

> open minded doc in South Florida, let me know!

>

> From everything I have read, I do think that it's my

> estradiol levels. I actually think this is the last thing I

> need to get dialed in as I have been a little up and down

> since starting TRT. Question regarding that.....Do I even

> need the test, or could I just try the arimidex and see if

> that does the trick? Also, is arimidex the one that is very

> expensive? I'm not insured so this is a concern for me. Is

> there anything that I can get at the nutrition store that

> will help in the mean time? Phil I know you answer the same

> questions over and over, and it is much appreciated!

>

> Randall

>

>

>

> >

> > Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has

> been getting on my nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a

> month ago and am going to the Dr. this Thursday to check all

> my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most likely off

> that has me so irritable?

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Phil thanks. I printed those out so that I have a hard copy to refer to.

Sorry I forgot to mention...I have not had good morning or night time wood. It

was up and down for a while but for the past week it doesn't seem to be very

good. When I first started TRT I was really horny and I seemed to be getting

morning wood. I got my groove on last week and everything worked great, but I

had taken a little tadalifil just to make sure there wouldn't be any issues. I

will see what my doc says this Thursday and go from there. From what I've read

arimidex is my #1 option and DIM #2 option correct?

> > >

> > > Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has

> > been getting on my nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a

> > month ago and am going to the Dr. this Thursday to check all

> > my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most likely off

> > that has me so irritable?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Some Dr.'s will not even test Estradiol let alone give you Arimidex. So yes

Arimidex is #1 but you need testing to tell what dose you need. If your less

then 50 .25 mgs every 2 days dose it we cut the small 1mg. pills into 1/4's and

if your over 50 pg/ml then take .5 mgs every other day. As you get your levels

down your wood will come back very strong this means your at your best range I

gage my levels by my wood and use labs to tell I am on the right track. Keep

taking the dose you start on until it makes you go to low if it does. Then when

this happens your wood stops cold stop the Arimidex until it comes back then

that day do less if your doing .5 go down to .25 if your doing .25 every other

day go down to every 3 days. Keep a log on what dose you doing and how your

feeling try to be able to tell when your going to high or falling to low and

adjust to this.

If you can't get Arimidex from your Dr. and you don't want to get it from the

ADC so the DIM gage it the same way some men only need one half a tablet/day.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: forced2fish <ruca4life@...>

> Subject: Re: I've been a b*tch the past couple of days!

>

> Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 11:37 AM

> Hey Phil thanks. I printed those out

> so that I have a hard copy to refer to. Sorry I forgot to

> mention...I have not had good morning or night time wood. It

> was up and down for a while but for the past week it doesn't

> seem to be very good. When I first started TRT I was really

> horny and I seemed to be getting morning wood. I got my

> groove on last week and everything worked great, but I had

> taken a little tadalifil just to make sure there wouldn't be

> any issues. I will see what my doc says this Thursday and go

> from there. From what I've read arimidex is my #1 option and

> DIM #2 option correct?

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and

> everything has

> > > been getting on my nerves!haha..I started testcyp

> and hcg a

> > > month ago and am going to the Dr. this Thursday

> to check all

> > > my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most

> likely off

> > > that has me so irritable?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I'm 35...My doc is super cool and very progressive so I don't think that any of

this will be an issue. I'll post how everything goes on Thursday and hopefully I

won't rip anyone's head off, or cause all my " prospects " to hate me in the mean

time!haha..

Thanks, Randall

> > > > >

> > > > > Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and

> > everything has

> > > > been getting on my nerves!haha..I started testcyp

> > and hcg a

> > > > month ago and am going to the Dr. this Thursday

> > to check all

> > > > my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most

> > likely off

> > > > that has me so irritable?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

My husband can actually gauge his E2 levels by his b*tch factor. When it is bad

even the noise of crinkling paper will annoy him...it is rough to feel that way.

Hope this helps,

Judy

[Guest guest]

Thats funny, I know when my E2 is high I can " t watch sad movies without

fighting back the emotion. When I feel normal thats when my give a damn is

broken so to speak..

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:36 PM, zashes11 <zashes11@...> wrote:

>

>

> My husband can actually gauge his E2 levels by his b*tch factor. When it is

> bad even the noise of crinkling paper will annoy him...it is rough to feel

> that way.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Judy

>

>

>

--

Steve

Full Spectrum, Inc

Cell 662-415-0121

Ofc 662-396-4824

alex4500@...

[Guest guest]

Who do you see in S. FLA? EL

> >

> > Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has been getting on my

nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr. this

Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most likely off

that has me so irritable?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Cody

AgeBetterMiami.com

Are you in SoFla?

> > >

> > > Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has been getting on my

nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr. this

Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most likely off

that has me so irritable?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It's funny how we are all the same but different. I am more of an angry than

emotional (not violent, just easily annoyed) person, so it seems to be making me

more irritable and angry. That is at least assuming that that's what's going on,

which I will find out tomorrow. I haven't done anything to counteract it yet,

but I actually seem to be feeling a little better today.....SO FAR..It's still

early..I may rip your head off later!!!!hahaha

>

> >

> >

> > My husband can actually gauge his E2 levels by his b*tch factor. When it is

> > bad even the noise of crinkling paper will annoy him...it is rough to feel

> > that way.

> >

> > Hope this helps,

> >

> > Judy

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Steve

> Full Spectrum, Inc

> Cell 662-415-0121

> Ofc 662-396-4824

> alex4500@...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The point I am trying to make is if your taking something to keep your Estradiol

levels down I don't feel irritable and angry until my levels get higher. When I

feel emotional or get sore and hard nipples it just starting to go up this is

when I take an extra dose of Arimidex to keep this in check.

There are so many things we eat and drink that can make Estradiol levels go up

even the plastic bottles we drink water and pop from leach Estradiol into them

from the plastic. If you cook your food in plastic your putting Estrogen in the

food even storing you food or buying it rapped in plastic can up your levels.

The dam stuff is every where.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: forced2fish <ruca4life@...>

> Subject: Re: I've been a b*tch the past couple of days!

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 11:09 AM

> It's funny how we are all the same

> but different. I am more of an angry than emotional (not

> violent, just easily annoyed) person, so it seems to be

> making me more irritable and angry. That is at least

> assuming that that's what's going on, which I will find out

> tomorrow. I haven't done anything to counteract it yet, but

> I actually seem to be feeling a little better today.....SO

> FAR..It's still early..I may rip your head off

> later!!!!hahaha

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > My husband can actually gauge his E2 levels by

> his b*tch factor. When it is

> > > bad even the noise of crinkling paper will annoy

> him...it is rough to feel

> > > that way.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps,

> > >

> > > Judy

> > >

> > > 

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Steve 

> > Full Spectrum, Inc

> > Cell 662-415-0121

> > Ofc 662-396-4824

> > alex4500@...

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the link--used to be in Hollywood FL...EL

> > > >

> > > > Seriously it's been bad! Everybody and everything has been getting on my

nerves!haha..I started testcyp and hcg a month ago and am going to the Dr. this

Thursday to check all my levels. Just out of curiosity, what is most likely off

that has me so irritable?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>