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Well, I use nebido just bc it is safer then eth and cyp. But we have to do what

works well for us. Only we know how we feel not others. And nebido is soo

expensive.. But for me it looks like the alternative. I am also thinking of

using eth, but I am a bit afraid of the side affects it comes with. Any

suggestions? Can you provide me input on how you feel with Eth in your system?

Side affects and how you feel on a daily basis?

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> I googled up this while searching for Nebido:

> (from a body building forum)

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> I lived in Europea a few years ago and had Nebido injected. It takes you for

an insane ride, ups and downs. This is 4cc of substance injected into your

behind and give youwhat would be termed a steroid flu. I talked to a few docs

and pharmacy workers and they said that the company that produces Nebido is in

essence a big bully and forces a good number of EU members to carry only this

product (not sure if this is true I only lived in two European countries).

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> I read the package insert and it said that if desired you can inject within 30

days if needed. The cost of one injection was around $167.

> After the first injection I decided to drop Nebido and opted for Test.

Enanthate and now use Cyp. Both are much better for me.

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nebido wasnt made for body builders. It was made for hypogondal men. Major

Difference.

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> I googled up this while searching for Nebido:

> (from a body building forum)

>

> ----

> I lived in Europea a few years ago and had Nebido injected. It takes you for

an insane ride, ups and downs. This is 4cc of substance injected into your

behind and give youwhat would be termed a steroid flu. I talked to a few docs

and pharmacy workers and they said that the company that produces Nebido is in

essence a big bully and forces a good number of EU members to carry only this

product (not sure if this is true I only lived in two European countries).

>

> I read the package insert and it said that if desired you can inject within 30

days if needed. The cost of one injection was around $167.

> After the first injection I decided to drop Nebido and opted for Test.

Enanthate and now use Cyp. Both are much better for me.

>

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Can you tell my why Nebido would be safer or have fewer side effects than eth or

cyp?

As I understand it all of these injections use various esters of testosterone to

make it slowly release " T " . I've read here that an injection of pure " T " would

have a half life of a few hours.

I've been on Testosterone Cypionate for 26 months now. At first I had

injections in the doctor's office every month. After about 5 month's I injected

at home.

The last week of the month I was fairly miserable becasue the " T " had fallen

off. Three days after the shot I was on top of the world.

Then I started injection twice a month and just a few months ago, I started

weekly injections.

The only side effect I had was more or less permanently erect nipples and a bit

of gyno. Arimidex helped with that. Last August I was found to have " thick

blood " (pseudo polycythemia) i.e. high red blood cell count, high RDW (red

blood cell width) and high hematocrit.

The cure for that was " bloodletting " . Like donating blood, but they throw it

away. I am tested every month. They have only had to bleed me twice so far.

I believe those side effects were due to the " roller coaster " effect of

injecting once or twice a month. I think weekly injections are improving

everything.

As for the benefits I've seen it is so fantastic that it borders on the

unbeliveable. I'm 60 years old and feel better than I did when I was 40. I've

become a Gym Rat and work out on a regular basis. On the Cybex pin-select weight

machines I can do very high reps without getting fatigued.

I was never athletic and went from a 120 lb weakling (at age 25) to a 180 lb fat

man (at age 35) without ever being really strong.

I've been trying to get below 200 lbs for the past year, but I can't do it

because I keep gaining muscle.

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> Well, I use nebido just bc it is safer then eth and cyp. But we have to do

what works well for us. Only we know how we feel not others. And nebido is soo

expensive.. But for me it looks like the alternative. I am also thinking of

using eth, but I am a bit afraid of the side affects it comes with. Any

suggestions? Can you provide me input on how you feel with Eth in your system?

Side affects and how you feel on a daily basis?

>

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" Well, I use nebido just bc it is safer then eth and cyp "

Nebido is nothing new. Testosterone Undecanote has been around for decades, and

Nebido is the same Testoserone ester that is found in the oral Testosterone

capsule Andriol.

I too questiong where the claim of Nebido being safer than cyp or enth comes

from becuase it smells like marketing hyperbole or just plain bs. It has been

pointed out before, but once the ester is cleaved off from the test undecanote

(Nebido), the end result is the same moledule as that of test cyp or enth.

The only thing that Nebido brings to the table is a longer half life due to the

attachment of the undecanote ester-nothing less and nothing more.

Nebido is made from the same yams and or soy that cyp, enth or even test

suspension is made from and therefore is nothing special

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