Re: May I have some advice on Arimidex dosing, please?

February 11, 2010

Yes do .5 mgs every other day and follow what I tell men on arimidex to do so

they don't go to low.

===================================================

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Kyrios <okyrios@...>

> Subject: May I have some advice on Arimidex dosing, please?

>

> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 5:23 PM

> I have been being treated for

> hypogonadism by a urologist for the past few months. He

> started me out on Androgel, but after a talk with him about

> injections he is letting me self-inject 100mg weekly.

>

> This scenario has taken place over several months, but to

> make it short here are the relevant facts:

>

> I am 56 yrs old, diabetic, well-controlled. Hypertensive. .

> .decently controlled. Moderate to severe ED for a number of

> years.

>

> I started off with a T level of 343.

> Androgel alone got that up to 700.

> Estradiol level at the time of my penultimate test was 63.

>

> I wanted to talk to him about arimidex at the time but he

> wanted to wait until out next appt., 8 weeks later. Well,

> I had that appt. yesterday. He agreed to let me use arimidex

> (along with numerous cautions of course.) He wanted me to

> take .5 mg daily. I told him that .25 every other day or

> every 2-3 days seemed to be what was suggested by men

> experienced with the protocol. He ended up prescribing for

> .25 daily.

>

> Okay, today I call for quick test results from his nurse (I

> know he will call me next week, but I wanted to talk to her

> and get the base numbers). Testosterone is at 977. . .pretty

> good I guess. Then she gave me the estradiol number. . .130!

> I was furious because if I had started on arimidex before

> now this would likely have been better addressed. Instead I

> have waited for 8 weeks while the number crept up.

>

> Anyway, at this point what would you guys think I should do

> to get that number down? .5 mg every other day? Or stick

> with .25 every other day? I will be logging and looking for

> the sweet spot, but I have no idea how long this should take

> to come down when it's this high.

>

> Help? And thanks!

>

> ------------------------------------

>

February 11, 2010

Thanks very much Phil! Yes, I actually have a file saved on my computer with

your pearls of wisdom! I already started the log and will be very observant.

I was just unsure whether or not I should just jump to .5 with numbers that high

or stick with the .25. Is that number unusually high, by the way. I was outraged

by the 63, but 130. . .oi!

Thanks again. Much appreciated!

>

> > From: Kyrios <okyrios@...>

> > Subject: May I have some advice on Arimidex dosing, please?

> >

> > Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 5:23 PM

> > I have been being treated for

> > hypogonadism by a urologist for the past few months. He

> > started me out on Androgel, but after a talk with him about

> > injections he is letting me self-inject 100mg weekly.

> >

> > This scenario has taken place over several months, but to

> > make it short here are the relevant facts:

> >

> > I am 56 yrs old, diabetic, well-controlled. Hypertensive. .

> > .decently controlled. Moderate to severe ED for a number of

> > years.

> >

> > I started off with a T level of 343.

> > Androgel alone got that up to 700.

> > Estradiol level at the time of my penultimate test was 63.

> >

> > I wanted to talk to him about arimidex at the time but he

> > wanted to wait until out next appt., 8 weeks later. Well,

> > I had that appt. yesterday. He agreed to let me use arimidex

> > (along with numerous cautions of course.) He wanted me to

> > take .5 mg daily. I told him that .25 every other day or

> > every 2-3 days seemed to be what was suggested by men

> > experienced with the protocol. He ended up prescribing for

> > .25 daily.

> >

> > Okay, today I call for quick test results from his nurse (I

> > know he will call me next week, but I wanted to talk to her

> > and get the base numbers). Testosterone is at 977. . .pretty

> > good I guess. Then she gave me the estradiol number. . .130!

> > I was furious because if I had started on arimidex before

> > now this would likely have been better addressed. Instead I

> > have waited for 8 weeks while the number crept up.

> >

> > Anyway, at this point what would you guys think I should do

> > to get that number down? .5 mg every other day? Or stick

> > with .25 every other day? I will be logging and looking for

> > the sweet spot, but I have no idea how long this should take

> > to come down when it's this high.

> >

> > Help? And thanks!

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

February 11, 2010

You need to clarify what estrodial test was done that would be the first

suggestion. Driving e2 can raise T levels as well so that is a not brainer. 60

e2 takes about .25 EOD to get it down in about 4 weeks retest. Did you apply the

gel before the test and how long after application did you test. What was your

Shbg, if you are diabetic I bet it is about 10 You only need about 500-600 ng of

T not 900. A good HRT dr could control this with out adex even though you high

to start many people lower as T levels increase. the guy is trying but needs a

little education in proper protocol.

>

> I have been being treated for hypogonadism by a urologist for the past few

months. He started me out on Androgel, but after a talk with him about

injections he is letting me self-inject 100mg weekly.

>

> This scenario has taken place over several months, but to make it short here

are the relevant facts:

>

> I am 56 yrs old, diabetic, well-controlled. Hypertensive. . .decently

controlled. Moderate to severe ED for a number of years.

>

> I started off with a T level of 343.

> Androgel alone got that up to 700.

> Estradiol level at the time of my penultimate test was 63.

>

> I wanted to talk to him about arimidex at the time but he wanted to wait until

out next appt., 8 weeks later. Well, I had that appt. yesterday. He agreed to

let me use arimidex (along with numerous cautions of course.) He wanted me to

take .5 mg daily. I told him that .25 every other day or every 2-3 days seemed

to be what was suggested by men experienced with the protocol. He ended up

prescribing for .25 daily.

>

> Okay, today I call for quick test results from his nurse (I know he will call

me next week, but I wanted to talk to her and get the base numbers).

Testosterone is at 977. . .pretty good I guess. Then she gave me the estradiol

number. . .130! I was furious because if I had started on arimidex before now

this would likely have been better addressed. Instead I have waited for 8 weeks

while the number crept up.

>

> Anyway, at this point what would you guys think I should do to get that number

down? .5 mg every other day? Or stick with .25 every other day? I will be

logging and looking for the sweet spot, but I have no idea how long this should

take to come down when it's this high.

>

> Help? And thanks!

>

February 11, 2010

Hi,

managing estradiol is still one of the hardest parts of TRT... and your

method/post is still about the best gauge there is!

right now I'm doing 1/4mg every 2.5 days.... yes I switch from morning to

evening dosing every other time... every other day and I'd be borderline LOW...

and every 3 days I'd drift up... so it's every 2.5 for me now :-}

ttyl

> ===================================================

> What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

>

> The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

>

> Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

>

> I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

>

> I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

>

> So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go

down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best

with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later

your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

>

> I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

>

> So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

>

> Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

February 12, 2010

Yes, it's interesting how we so commonly see elevated estrogen increasing

SHBG, and increased estrogen with diabetes, but low SHBG in the Type II

diabetic state. Shows how SHBG finds its own level (no doubt increased

insulin is driving the bus) under numerous influences.

Be well!

Regards,

Crisler, DO

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Dr J can estrogen metabolites as well as xenoestrogens are also impact these

SHBG. I know this is pure speculation, but I have been getting lazy and drinking

out of more plastic bottles and defrosting more food in plastic in the microwave

and not other varaible has been changed. Wonder if this could have an impact.

>

> Yes, it's interesting how we so commonly see elevated estrogen increasing

> SHBG, and increased estrogen with diabetes, but low SHBG in the Type II

> diabetic state. Shows how SHBG finds its own level (no doubt increased

> insulin is driving the bus) under numerous influences.

>

> Be well!

>

> Regards,

>

> Crisler, DO

>

> Anti-Aging Medicine

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February 12, 2010

Yes do .5 mgs every other day and if you don't get wood in 10 days go on it

everyday this is still less then your Dr. was going to give you. When I was

that high I needed to do .5mgs everyday.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Kyrios <okyrios@...>

> Subject: Re: May I have some advice on Arimidex dosing, please?

>

> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 6:50 PM

> Thanks very much Phil! Yes, I

> actually have a file saved on my computer with your pearls

> of wisdom! I already started the log and will be very

> observant. I was just unsure whether or not I should just

> jump to .5 with numbers that high or stick with the .25. Is

> that number unusually high, by the way. I was outraged by

> the 63, but 130. . .oi!

>

> Thanks again. Much appreciated!

>

> >

> > > From: Kyrios <okyrios@...>

> > > Subject: May I have some advice on

> Arimidex dosing, please?

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 5:23 PM

> > > I have been being treated for

> > > hypogonadism by a urologist for the past few

> months. He

> > > started me out on Androgel, but after a talk with

> him about

> > > injections he is letting me self-inject 100mg

> weekly.

> > >

> > > This scenario has taken place over several

> months, but to

> > > make it short here are the relevant facts:

> > >

> > > I am 56 yrs old, diabetic, well-controlled.

> Hypertensive. .

> > > .decently controlled. Moderate to severe ED for a

> number of

> > > years.

> > >

> > > I started off with a T level of 343.

> > > Androgel alone got that up to 700.

> > > Estradiol level at the time of my penultimate

> test was 63.

> > >

> > > I wanted to talk to him about arimidex at the

> time but he

> > > wanted to wait until out next appt., 8 weeks

> later. Well,

> > > I had that appt. yesterday. He agreed to let me

> use arimidex

> > > (along with numerous cautions of course.) He

> wanted me to

> > > take .5 mg daily. I told him that .25 every other

> day or

> > > every 2-3 days seemed to be what was suggested

> by men

> > > experienced with the protocol. He ended up

> prescribing for

> > > .25 daily.

> > >

> > > Okay, today I call for quick test results from

> his nurse (I

> > > know he will call me next week, but I wanted to

> talk to her

> > > and get the base numbers). Testosterone is at

> 977. . .pretty

> > > good I guess. Then she gave me the estradiol

> number. . .130!

> > > I was furious because if I had started on

> arimidex before

> > > now this would likely have been better addressed.

> Instead I

> > > have waited for 8 weeks while the number crept

> up.

> > >

> > > Anyway, at this point what would you guys think I

> should do

> > > to get that number down? .5 mg every other day?

> Or stick

> > > with .25 every other day? I will be logging and

> looking for

> > > the sweet spot, but I have no idea how long this

> should take

> > > to come down when it's this high.

> > >

> > > Help? And thanks!

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

February 12, 2010

We learn something new everyday and your idea is a great one I will try this the

next time every 2 days is to much and every 3 days is not enough. The is one

other thing you can do read this from Dr. 's forum a mod Chillin does this.

====================================================

Most compounding pharmacies will require a prescription from a doctor, before

they do this.

Once your prescription says " 300 caps x 0.1mg " or " 600 caps x 0.05mg "

anastrozole " from 1 to 4 daily " , (anastrozole = generic arimidex) then they will

compound your arimidex, or generic anastrozole, and they will usually supply the

arimidex as compounded into the caps you require.

My compounding pharmacist was prepared to allow me to supply the arimidex too.

If you have several boxes of arimidex in your cupboard, then you may want to ask

your pharmacist to do this for you.

If you don't have any arimidex stores, then just let the compounding pharmacy

supply the whole lot.

###

A pack of 30 tabs of 1.0mg arimidex will give 300 caps at 0.1mg-per-cap, or 600

caps at 0.05mg-per-cap.

So if your pharmacy chooses to supply arimidex as opposed to generic

anastrozole, then your pharmacy will most likely not agree to only charge you

for a half-a-box of arimidex, and most likely they'll charge for a whole box,

even if your prescription says 300 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap (total of 15mg).

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jbbooks1901 <jbbooks1901@...>

> Subject: Re: May I have some advice on Arimidex dosing, please?

>

> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 12:35 AM

>

> Hi,

>

> managing estradiol is still one of the hardest parts of

> TRT... and your method/post is still about the best gauge

> there is!

>

> right now I'm doing 1/4mg every 2.5 days.... yes I switch

> from morning to evening dosing every other time... every

> other day and I'd be borderline LOW... and every 3 days I'd

> drift up... so it's every 2.5 for me now :-}

>

> ttyl

>

> > ===================================================

> > What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's

> the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8

> weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more

> Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to

> low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to

> low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I

> first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

> how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not

> know I was low until my next labs.

> >

> > The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol

> levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At

> good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night

> time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and

> you can hang a coat on it.

> >

> > Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill,

> I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I

> stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut

> this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high

> your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried

> doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of

> labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

> >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I

> got some strong night time and morning wood back after not

> having them for many yrs.

> >

> > I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of

> labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they

> did not have to good labs we have today they could not read

> lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop

> taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my

> wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in

> about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

> went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs

> every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood.

> This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood.

> And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get

> levels back up.

> >

> > I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back

> in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time

> found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days.

> >

> > So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your

> take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet

> spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower

> levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days

> if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3

> days.

> >

> > I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to

> control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I

> need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need .25mgs everyday

> most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

> >

> > So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of

> the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am

> taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log

> I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr.

> lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

> >

> > Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue

> in the face.

> >

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

February 12, 2010

While on lecture tour in Mexico City a few weeks ago for 8 days I had to-of

course-limit myself to bottled water. And lots of it. I could feel myself

slipping by the day.

At least I never met Mr. Montezuma this trip, though!

Be well!

Regards,

Crisler, DO

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On Behalf Of hardasnails1973

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:09 AM

Subject: Re: May I have some advice on Arimidex dosing,

please?

Dr J can estrogen metabolites as well as xenoestrogens are also impact these

SHBG. I know this is pure speculation, but I have been getting lazy and

drinking out of more plastic bottles and defrosting more food in plastic in

the microwave and not other varaible has been changed. Wonder if this could

have an impact.

>

> Yes, it's interesting how we so commonly see elevated estrogen increasing

> SHBG, and increased estrogen with diabetes, but low SHBG in the Type II

> diabetic state. Shows how SHBG finds its own level (no doubt increased

> insulin is driving the bus) under numerous influences.

>

> Be well!

>

> Regards,

>

> Crisler, DO

>

> Anti-Aging Medicine

>

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February 12, 2010

Thank you that just confirmed my suspicions. I lost my 40 year old stailness

still cofffe thermos and have been going down hill ever since. I been using so

much bottle water it is rediculous. I am know paying the price because of it.

So glad I'm not the only one who feels. You said you felt your self slipping in

what sense..your hormones fluctuations?

> >

> > Yes, it's interesting how we so commonly see elevated estrogen increasing

> > SHBG, and increased estrogen with diabetes, but low SHBG in the Type II

> > diabetic state. Shows how SHBG finds its own level (no doubt increased

> > insulin is driving the bus) under numerous influences.

> >

> > Be well!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Crisler, DO

> >

> > Anti-Aging Medicine

> >

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February 12, 2010

Here is what I do I have a canteen 24oz I use a filter to filter my water and I

put the water into my canteen I drink about 3 a day I need to keep my sodium

levels up so I add in some pink sea salt about 1/2 tsp each time I fill my

canteen. drinking bottled water the plastic bottles leach Estradiol into the

water your drinking and can make it harder to keep your levels under control.

And this goes to storing food and or worming food up in plastic.

Estrogen hormones are every where in the water we drink the plastic we use and

the food and meat we buy.

http://www.kleankanteen.com/

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> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Re: May I have some advice on Arimidex dosing, please?

>

> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 11:30 AM

> Thank you that just confirmed my

> suspicions. I lost my 40 year old stailness still

> cofffe thermos and have been going down hill ever

> since. I been using so much bottle water it is

> rediculous. I am know paying the price because of it.

> So glad I'm not the only one who feels. You said you

> felt your self slipping in what sense..your hormones

> fluctuations?

>

> > >

> > > Yes, it's interesting how we so commonly see

> elevated estrogen increasing

> > > SHBG, and increased estrogen with diabetes, but

> low SHBG in the Type II

> > > diabetic state. Shows how SHBG finds its own

> level (no doubt increased

> > > insulin is driving the bus) under numerous

> influences.

> > >

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February 12, 2010

Sorry to hear that!

Be well!

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Weaker, not as sharp thinking, bloated, uglier.

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I'm just guessing, but why not?

Shoot, estrogen affects every other area of our lives (please note double

entendre')!

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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:09 AM

Subject: Re: May I have some advice on Arimidex dosing,

please?

Dr J can estrogen metabolites as well as xenoestrogens are also impact these

SHBG. I know this is pure speculation, but I have been getting lazy and

drinking out of more plastic bottles and defrosting more food in plastic in

the microwave and not other varaible has been changed. Wonder if this could

have an impact.

>

> Yes, it's interesting how we so commonly see elevated estrogen increasing

> SHBG, and increased estrogen with diabetes, but low SHBG in the Type II

> diabetic state. Shows how SHBG finds its own level (no doubt increased

> insulin is driving the bus) under numerous influences.

>

> Be well!

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February 12, 2010

Thanks for the reply!

>You need to clarify what estrodial test was done that would be the first

suggestion.

I don't know the name of the test. I have not spoken wit the doc yet; only his

nurse. I do know that the one they use has a high end of 54.

>Did you apply the gel before the test and how long after application did you

test.

Haven't used the gel in some time. I've been on injections (100 mg/wk) for the

past 8 weeks. Most recent test was done the day before I was due for next

injection (i.e., day 6).

>What was your Shbg, if you are diabetic I bet it is about 10

Unknown. I'm not familiar with the term. I'll look it up.

>A good HRT dr could control this with out adex. . .

Well, we work with what we have to work with,eh? ;-) Good HRTs are in quite

short supply in this neck of the woods, I can assure you. Finances preclude

other options. This guy is a uro who has been very willing to listen to what I

tell him I've learned and who admitted to me from the start that he didn't have

a lot of experience with aromatase inhibitors, but was willing to work with me

because I had told him about this group. . . he said he is never one to

denigrate the real-life experiences of those who are actually " in the trenches "

fighting this battle.