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Dear Bill,

>>>wakes up with breath that smells almost garlicky, despite not

having had garlic the day before. Yesterday he also had a B.M. that

had more of an odor than others-- still firm, just more odorous.

==>These are common occurrences with candida and are nothing to be

concerned about. It indicates detoxing is going on, and that he

still has digestives problems which will improve day by day.

Consider yourself lucky his breath doesn't smell like BMs which some

people experience with candida.

Your son should be cured completely within 5 months of starting him

on the complete program. He should be kept on the program for a

month past all symptoms disappearing. If he continues to improve you

could safely add one fruit a day in another month. Fruit needs to be

consumed along with good fats to slow release of fructose, i.e. after

a fatty meal. It is best to start with low fructose fruits like

grapefruit, apples.

The best to you and Liam.

Bee

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Hi Regina,

You are doing good to still be losing I had surgery 4 days after you and

lost

4 pounds last month and nothing this month. I wish I was losing 1.5 pounds a

week

it's better then nothing...I have lost 98 pounds.

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>Subject: Is this normal?

>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:19:15 -0000

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>I had my surgery 2/26/04 and since then have lost 105 lbs. I am very

>happy with the weight loss, but the last 2 months or so it has slowed

>down drastically. Less than 2lbs. a week usually about 1.5 lbs. Is

>this normal or am I doing something wrong? Did this happen to anyone

>else and is there any way that I can jump start my weight loss

>again? Any help anyone can give me is appreciated.

>

>Regina

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thats normal.

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> I had my surgery 2/26/04 and since then have lost 105 lbs. I am

very

> happy with the weight loss, but the last 2 months or so it has

slowed

> down drastically. Less than 2lbs. a week usually about 1.5 lbs. Is

> this normal or am I doing something wrong? Did this happen to

anyone

> else and is there any way that I can jump start my weight loss

> again? Any help anyone can give me is appreciated.

>

> Regina

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The weight loss inevitably slows down - if it didn't we would simple

disappear. On any other " diet " in your life have you lost over 100

pounds in 10 months? For that matter, on virtually any other " diet "

have you lost even consistently a pound a week? Probably not. Try

and do what you know you are supposed to do and let the process

work. Eat healthy - be healthy.

in GA

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> I had my surgery 2/26/04 and since then have lost 105 lbs. I am

very

> happy with the weight loss, but the last 2 months or so it has

slowed

> down drastically. Less than 2lbs. a week usually about 1.5 lbs. Is

> this normal or am I doing something wrong? Did this happen to

anyone

> else and is there any way that I can jump start my weight loss

> again? Any help anyone can give me is appreciated.

>

> Regina

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Regina,

Don't worry. I had my mgb 5 days before you and have only lost 78 lbs. I

started on these two month plateaus in July and have only lost about 15 lbs

since then (about 5.5 lbs every two months) You are doing great. I'm just

hoping that I will join the century club by Feb 19th 05. But if things continue

they way they are, it won't happen. I'm just enjoying the weight I have lost

and not worrying about what I haven't lost. I am 183 and only 5'2 " . If I don't

loose any more by my second year, I may have to think about the " R " word. I'm

not worried though, it will start falling off here soon. I think I've been at

this temporary set point long enough.

in Phoenix

Dr. Hargroder

02/19/04

261/183/120

5'2 " 42 y/o

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thats normal.

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>

> I had my surgery 2/26/04 and since then have lost 105 lbs. I am

very

> happy with the weight loss, but the last 2 months or so it has

slowed

> down drastically. Less than 2lbs. a week usually about 1.5 lbs. Is

> this normal or am I doing something wrong? Did this happen to

anyone

> else and is there any way that I can jump start my weight loss

> again? Any help anyone can give me is appreciated.

>

> Regina

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Hi,

It varies from person to person. I was a consistent but slow loser.

I would lose 4-7 pounds a month. I am 2.5 years out and still

lose a pound a month if I do not eat. If I exercise any at all

I can drop 8-10 pounds a week still.

jane 5-17-02

311/140

Dr. R

Dover TN

Is this normal?

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> I had my surgery 2/26/04 and since then have lost 105 lbs. I am very

> happy with the weight loss, but the last 2 months or so it has slowed

> down drastically. Less than 2lbs. a week usually about 1.5 lbs. Is

> this normal or am I doing something wrong? Did this happen to anyone

> else and is there any way that I can jump start my weight loss

> again? Any help anyone can give me is appreciated.

>

> Regina

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Regina, this is very normal and I always could jump start my weight loss

again (sounds crazy) by eating more protein. Are you working out?

Suzanne

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> I had my surgery 2/26/04 and since then have lost 105 lbs. I am very

> happy with the weight loss, but the last 2 months or so it has slowed

> down drastically. Less than 2lbs. a week usually about 1.5 lbs. Is

> this normal or am I doing something wrong? Did this happen to anyone

> else and is there any way that I can jump start my weight loss

> again? Any help anyone can give me is appreciated.

>

> Regina

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Hi Regina,

My name is Debbie and I am the nurse for CLOS and was reading your email

message and just wanted to let you know that this is normal.You can loss

weight up to two years of surgery.The first few months are usually when

you have the fast weight lost and than it starts to slow down a bit.Just

watch what you eat and try to eat mostly proteins and do some type of

exercise.Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.And

try not to worry the weight will still continue to come off, just not

has fast has we would like for it too.

Take Care,

Debbie Pennell,RN CLOS

Regina wrote:

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>I had my surgery 2/26/04 and since then have lost 105 lbs. I am very

>happy with the weight loss, but the last 2 months or so it has slowed

>down drastically. Less than 2lbs. a week usually about 1.5 lbs. Is

>this normal or am I doing something wrong? Did this happen to anyone

>else and is there any way that I can jump start my weight loss

>again? Any help anyone can give me is appreciated.

>

>Regina

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HI MIRIAM HERE,

YOU SOUND QUITE NORMAL..

AT A YEAR MARK I HAD NOT REACHED THAT 100 LB LOSS BUT AT 15 MONTHS I AM 111

LBS OUT... SO ALL IS WELL.... AND I THINK I WILL LOOSE MORE, CAUSE I AM DOING

THESE SWEETS FOR THE HOLIDAYS A LITTLE TOO MUCH... I KNOW THAT AFTER ALL THIS

FOOD IS GONE I WILL GO BACK TO MY REGULAR ROUTINE AND I WILL LOOSE MORE... THE

THING IS I DON'T WANT TO LOOSE ANYMORE. I AM AT 139 LBS NOW AND ALMOST 50

YEARS YOUNG. I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO THIN.. I AM WEARING A SIZE 6,5 & 4 IT

DEPENDS ON THE CLOTHS. I WAS A SIZE 20 BEFORE THIS ALL STARTED.... LOVING IT..

SHOPPING IS GREAT NOW... EVENTHOUGH SOMETIMES LITTE SIZES ARE HARD TO FIND...

ITS

A GOOD BAD THING.

KEEP GOING YOU WILL BE JUST FINE...

7/1/03

250/139

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I am soooooo tired all the time. I woke up today after sleeping 10 hours and

took my meds and ate a yogurt and fell asleep at my dining room table. I had to

go back and lie down for another 2 hours. I also am getting cold sweats and hot

flashes. I was just dx a week and a half ago with PBC.

Zanna

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You should post the normal ranges for these values also (from the lab report)

ale_salles <ale_salles@...> wrote: I received these lab test, but

haven't talk to my doctor yet. Is this

normal?

FT3 1.65 pg/ml

FT4 0.89 ng/dl

TSH 3.58 uIU/ml

antibodies

Antiperodisade <100 U

Antitiroglobuline 0.04 U

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> Hi, this is somewhat embarrassing, but anyway. I am noticing that

> everytime I have a bowel motion, they float without exception and I

> don't know if this means I am not digesting fats properly, or I'm

> overeating them.

>

> appreciate comments.

>

==>Hi . Fats do not enter the picture my dear. Some holistic

practitioners even believe that floaters are more healthy BMs than

sinkers, but actually both are okay. For more info about healthy BMs

see the article about them in our Digestion Folder.

Luv, Bee

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> ==>Hi . Fats do not enter the picture my dear. Some holistic

> practitioners even believe that floaters are more healthy BMs than

> sinkers, but actually both are okay. For more info about healthy BMs

> see the article about them in our Digestion Folder.

>

> Luv, Bee

HI Bee,

Thank you for the reassurance! I'll check out the digestion folder,

but so far I've not been able to locate it. I'll keep looking, but I'm

glad to hear this regardless.

Cheers

.

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> > Hi, this is somewhat embarrassing, but anyway. I am noticing that

> > everytime I have a bowel motion, they float without exception and I

> > don't know if this means I am not digesting fats properly, or I'm

> > overeating them.

>==>Hi . Fats do not enter the picture my dear. Some holistic

>practitioners even believe that floaters are more healthy but actually both

>are okay. For more info about healthy BMs see the article about them in our

>Digestion Folder.

>

>Luv, Bee

Hello,

I found this to be directly related to the different types of digestive

enzymes I have tried over the past year. Some result in sinkers and some

result in floaters. Lovely topic! ;+)

Shirley

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>> ==>Hi . Fats do not enter the picture my dear. Some holistic

>> practitioners even believe that floaters are more healthy BMs than

>> sinkers, but actually both are okay. For more info about healthy BMs

>> see the article about them in our Digestion Folder.

>>

>> Luv, Bee

>

boy, do i have brain fog or what? i read the above post and for the life of me

could't figure out what floaters - i'm thinking of of the kind you get in your

eyes - the little ameba shaped things - have to do with BM's. then you mention

sinkers and i'm thinkin........are these like floaters but that settle in the

lower part of your line of vision. i swear i stared at this for 3 minutes before

i got it. ;-p sometimes i amaze myself with how dense i have gotten. but i also

thought it was pretty funny and worth sharing. so much for my first post.

deb

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> boy, do i have brain fog or what? i read the above post

and for the life of me couldn't figure out what floaters - i'm

thinking of of the kind you get in your eyes - the little ameba shaped

things - have to do with BM's. then you mention sinkers and i'm

thinkin........are these like floaters but that settle in the lower

part of your line of vision. i swear i stared at this for 3 minutes

before i got it. ;-p sometimes i amaze myself with how dense i have

gotten. but i also thought it was pretty funny and worth sharing. so

much for my first post.

==>LOL! That's really funny Deb. I can see how easy it would be to

think of " eye floaters " .

Luv, Bee

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Hi Donna, ????????????????????? I Don't know what the heck that could have been? Hopefully that was a one-time event! Take care:-) Dana

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Donna " <dfs67@...>

I was wondering if anyone has had like a stomach spazm? Last night I was in bed and all of a sudden my stomach started hurting, I started sweating and I had trouble breating for about 3 minutes. Then it went away. I had no problem with food today and all seems well. It was just weird and cought me off guard.

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Are you sure it is die off and not an allergic reaction to something you

are eating?

Keen

Is this normal?

I have been doing most of the anti-candida things for a long time,

except that I do slip up on diet a bit. I have gotten enormously better,

and was able to return to Law school this year.

However, I'm finding that I still have the die off problem to worry

about which is really impinging on my ability to study. And that it

takes very little to set it off. Over time I have found that it takes

smaller and smaller amounts of anti-fungal medication to set it off,

with a wildly beating heart etc. I found I can slow it up with a good

whack of junk food when it has gotten out of control. I can see strange

stuff coming out in the faeces after I've had a particularly bad couple

of days in painfull 'die-off'.

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING. AND WHEN IS THIS EVER GOING TO END?

I get the impression that my own system may now be functioning better

on its own to get rid of the infection. On some days, simply throwing

down a few glasses of fresh squeezed vegestable juice is enough to set

off the 'die off' thing.

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That's a possibility - thanks. Not long ago, I worked out that I had developed a

pretty horrible reaction to milk which lasted about three days. But I used

colostrum which is supposed to heal membranes, and that allergic reaction went

away.

I started having a little bit of cola to drink which I realize is not good,

but I got so much better that I thought I should be able to tolerate a little

now. Maybe I cant.

Why does sugar, coke, chocolate etc. create this reaction?

Helen.

Keen Venables <kvenables@...> wrote:

Are you sure it is die off and not an allergic reaction to something

you

are eating?

Keen

Is this normal?

I have been doing most of the anti-candida things for a long time,

except that I do slip up on diet a bit. I have gotten enormously better,

and was able to return to Law school this year.

However, I'm finding that I still have the die off problem to worry

about which is really impinging on my ability to study. And that it

takes very little to set it off. Over time I have found that it takes

smaller and smaller amounts of anti-fungal medication to set it off,

with a wildly beating heart etc. I found I can slow it up with a good

whack of junk food when it has gotten out of control. I can see strange

stuff coming out in the faeces after I've had a particularly bad couple

of days in painfull 'die-off'.

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING. AND WHEN IS THIS EVER GOING TO END?

I get the impression that my own system may now be functioning better

on its own to get rid of the infection. On some days, simply throwing

down a few glasses of fresh squeezed vegestable juice is enough to set

off the 'die off' thing.

Helen

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What happens, as far as I know, is that you eat sugar and the candida

blossoms. Then, because your system is on top of things, the candida

gets killed off very quickly. That causes the die off symptoms. It

means that your system is coping quite well, but not 100% healed yet. I

would assume that, once the candida is totally under control, some sugar

won't cause a huge reaction as the candida doesn't get a chance to

blossom.

My husband and I don't really have any reactions to sugar any more.

It's mostly wheat and dairy that kill me. Which means that my leaky gut

is still not healed.

Keen

Is this normal?

I have been doing most of the anti-candida things for a long time,

except that I do slip up on diet a bit. I have gotten enormously better,

and was able to return to Law school this year.

However, I'm finding that I still have the die off problem to worry

about which is really impinging on my ability to study. And that it

takes very little to set it off. Over time I have found that it takes

smaller and smaller amounts of anti-fungal medication to set it off,

with a wildly beating heart etc. I found I can slow it up with a good

whack of junk food when it has gotten out of control. I can see strange

stuff coming out in the faeces after I've had a particularly bad couple

of days in painfull 'die-off'.

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING. AND WHEN IS THIS EVER GOING TO END?

I get the impression that my own system may now be functioning better

on its own to get rid of the infection. On some days, simply throwing

down a few glasses of fresh squeezed vegestable juice is enough to set

off the 'die off' thing.

Helen

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When you say " strange things in feces " , what do you

mean?? I have too noticed strange things such as white

or yellow mucus covering the stools sometimes. I think

this might be attributed to the die off, but Im not

sure. Anyone know about mucus in stool related to

candida.

--- Keen Venables <kvenables@...> wrote:

> Are you sure it is die off and not an allergic

> reaction to something you

> are eating?

>

> Keen

>

> Is this normal?

>

> I have been doing most of the anti-candida things

> for a long time,

> except that I do slip up on diet a bit. I have

> gotten enormously better,

> and was able to return to Law school this year.

>

> However, I'm finding that I still have the die off

> problem to worry

> about which is really impinging on my ability to

> study. And that it

> takes very little to set it off. Over time I have

> found that it takes

> smaller and smaller amounts of anti-fungal

> medication to set it off,

> with a wildly beating heart etc. I found I can slow

> it up with a good

> whack of junk food when it has gotten out of

> control. I can see strange

> stuff coming out in the faeces after I've had a

> particularly bad couple

> of days in painfull 'die-off'.

>

> WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING. AND WHEN IS THIS EVER

> GOING TO END?

>

> I get the impression that my own system may now be

> functioning better

> on its own to get rid of the infection. On some

> days, simply throwing

> down a few glasses of fresh squeezed vegestable

> juice is enough to set

> off the 'die off' thing.

>

> Helen

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> I've been doing this for three months now. I haven't started taking

> serious anti-fungals yet, still doing diet, supplements and CO/Pau

> D'Arco.

>

> Is it normal to start to feel great (really great -- full of energy,

> no anxiety, physically strong, emotionally elated) after having

weeks of die-off, and then all of a sudden - WHAMMO feel like crap

again?

==>Hi . Yes it is normal to have ups and downs. Natural

healing is not a steady uphill climb towards health. As your body

gets stronger it will start working on many areas of your body.

First it breaks down an area getting rid of toxins, etc. and then it

re-builds. You could also be running into re-tracing symptoms

explained in my article under Hering's Law of Cures. Here's some

articles which will help you understand how natural healing works.

>

> The last several weeks I've felt great, but this week i have a huge

> cold sore, a rash under my right arm, tenderness in my right armpit,

> fatigue, anxiety, sporadic rapid heartbeat. I just feel like crap

> again. Is this normal? i thought I was healing, but now I feel

> terrible again. I have had no cheats on the diet.

==>Cold sores and rash are good signs that your body is detoxifying,

which it will do through the skin. Tenderness is also due to toxins

which move around the body a lot. Also anxiety, fatigue and

irregular heartbeats are some of the symptoms you'll get from die-off

and detoxifying.

You are doing everything right . Hang in there. Your good

days will increase and your bad days will decrease as you progress on

the program. Do everything you can to help your body detoxify - see

this article: http://tinyurl.com/34ov3y

I hope that helps you.

Bee

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> You are doing everything right . Hang in there. Your good

> days will increase and your bad days will decrease as you progress on

> the program. Do everything you can to help your body detoxify - see

> this article: http://tinyurl.com/34ov3y

>

> I hope that helps you.

> Bee

>

Thank you, Bee! Your response helped immensely. Just had a moment of

faltering faith there. But knowing that what's happening is still

forward movement (even though it feels like a back slide) is enough to

keep me going.

Thank you thank you. :-)

/a

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