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<< I was referred to her by the receptionist at the office of

Parks Trowbridge (author of The Yeast Syndrome), who practices nearby,

but no longer treats yeast problems.

Hi : This is interesting. I wonder why.

>>Does anyone have any helpful hints/questions for my first visit with this

new

doctor? Her office does not accept insurance, so I will be paying out of

pocket, which causes me great displeasure. Hoepfully my insurance company

will reimburse me. >>

On my first visit with my new holistic doc, he had already sized up my

situation in his mind so I didn't even have to work on him <g>. Funny how

these docs get righteous about candida when they have whatever " proof " they

need to understand it. But my first visit was $150 for a doc in Arizona.

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Hope he's a real good one, Bug. Good luck !

NEW DOCTOR

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> HI

> HOW IS EVERYBODY TODAY? I'M PRETTY GOOD.

> THE NAME OF THE DR. I'M GOING TO NEXT WEEK

> IS A OTOLARYNGOLOGY . I CALLED UNTIL I FIND ME A DR.

> THAT TREATS CONDIDA.

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That is exciting news. Please keep us posted on your results. Didn't you

mention that Armour has sulfites in it?

Blessings,

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote:

Well, my much anticipated appointment with my new doctor took place

today. He is very

knowledgable in autoimmune disease. Although I have high hopes that this

treatment will

be what I need, I am also anxious about it. He is a doctor that very much

believes in

Armour. I have never tried Armour. Everything to this date has not worked for

me.

He wants me to go off my levoxyl for a week and then start taking 2grains 3

times a day of

Armour. My concern is that he also wants me to stop taking my diuretic. I know I

will

have a great deal of water retention doing this. I can gain 5 to 7 pounds a day

not using

it. I am very concerned about this. I told him this and he said if I do this, he

feels I will be

happy with the results. He is taking one step at a time. If this doesn't work

for me, we will

go forward and look at other causes for my problem and remedies.

What I need from anyone who has used Armour and has had it work for them is some

encouraging words, PLEASE.

I do have confidence in this doctor. He has a wonderful reputation in this area.

I just need

to hear from people who have been there and have succeeded.

I wait with anticipation for any encouraging words. I thank God that you are all

out there.

Venizia

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WOW

how wonderful for you! of coiurse you can safely go off the diuretic---this

is what Armour dose best. I am surprised that he wants you to take 6 grains

though, that might be a bit much. but you certainly will not need the diuretic.

there is a whole world of better thyroid care out there---really.

Gracia

Well, my much anticipated appointment with my new doctor took place today. He

is very

knowledgable in autoimmune disease. Although I have high hopes that this

treatment will

be what I need, I am also anxious about it. He is a doctor that very much

believes in

Armour. I have never tried Armour. Everything to this date has not worked for

me.

He wants me to go off my levoxyl for a week and then start taking 2grains 3

times a day of

Armour. My concern is that he also wants me to stop taking my diuretic. I know

I will

have a great deal of water retention doing this. I can gain 5 to 7 pounds a

day not using

it. I am very concerned about this. I told him this and he said if I do this,

he feels I will be

happy with the results. He is taking one step at a time. If this doesn't work

for me, we will

go forward and look at other causes for my problem and remedies.

What I need from anyone who has used Armour and has had it work for them is

some

encouraging words, PLEASE.

I do have confidence in this doctor. He has a wonderful reputation in this

area. I just need

to hear from people who have been there and have succeeded.

I wait with anticipation for any encouraging words. I thank God that you are

all out there.

Venizia

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Hi ,

Do you have hashimotos?

Thanks!

<veetee@...> wrote:

Hi Venizia,

You go girl! It is so encouraging to hear some good news. So glad that you have

found a doctor with a well deserved reputation, who also believes in working

with you as a patient, using Armour. I do not think you have anything to fear

using Armour. I switched more than a year ago and I feel absolutely great on it.

No regrets what so ever. The newer generation of doctors only want to push what

the drug companies want them to, and are not interested in what is best for

patients, because they do not 'make money' from natural things. Just look at how

homeopathy is derided as being 'pseudo medicine. The vocal majority are not

always right, you can be a mighty minority of one with a smaller band of

followers, think of Jesus. My faith in God has seen me through this condition,

and God created a body that can heal, so put your trust in God first, (and then

the doctor!) who has been blessed with a caring spirit, and practices as a good

doctor should do!

Good Health and God Bless,

Val

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Uf you're worried about the diuretics..you might try dandelion leaf..

make sure it's the leaf, not the root. My dr wanted me to take

diuretics but they are all made with sulfa and I'm allergic to it and

after reading Sherry MD about how dangerous they really are I

did a lot of research and found dandelion leaf to be the best bet, it

has potassium in it and oh yes it works very well....

>

> Well, my much anticipated appointment with my new doctor took place

today. He is very

> knowledgable in autoimmune disease. Although I have high hopes that

this treatment will

> be what I need, I am also anxious about it. He is a doctor that

very much believes in

> Armour. I have never tried Armour. Everything to this date has not

worked for me.

>

> He wants me to go off my levoxyl for a week and then start taking

2grains 3 times a day of

> Armour. My concern is that he also wants me to stop taking my

diuretic. I know I will

> have a great deal of water retention doing this. I can gain 5 to 7

pounds a day not using

> it. I am very concerned about this. I told him this and he said if

I do this, he feels I will be

> happy with the results. He is taking one step at a time. If this

doesn't work for me, we will

> go forward and look at other causes for my problem and remedies.

>

> What I need from anyone who has used Armour and has had it work for

them is some

> encouraging words, PLEASE.

>

> I do have confidence in this doctor. He has a wonderful reputation

in this area. I just need

> to hear from people who have been there and have succeeded.

>

> I wait with anticipation for any encouraging words. I thank God

that you are all out there.

>

> Venizia

>

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I am suppose to start armour on the 10th of April. So that gives me time to

check it out. I

thought of that. I tried looking up Forest pharmaceuticals but haven't found a

way of

contacting them yet. Didn't look all that long though. I will definitely ask

that question.

Thanks.

Venizia

> Well, my much anticipated appointment with my new doctor took place

today. He

is very

> knowledgable in autoimmune disease. Although I have high hopes that this

treatment

will

> be what I need, I am also anxious about it. He is a doctor that very much

believes in

> Armour. I have never tried Armour. Everything to this date has not worked for

me.

>

> He wants me to go off my levoxyl for a week and then start taking 2grains 3

times a day

of

> Armour. My concern is that he also wants me to stop taking my diuretic. I know

I will

> have a great deal of water retention doing this. I can gain 5 to 7 pounds a

day not using

> it. I am very concerned about this. I told him this and he said if I do this,

he feels I will

be

> happy with the results. He is taking one step at a time. If this doesn't work

for me, we

will

> go forward and look at other causes for my problem and remedies.

>

> What I need from anyone who has used Armour and has had it work for them is

some

> encouraging words, PLEASE.

>

> I do have confidence in this doctor. He has a wonderful reputation in this

area. I just

need

> to hear from people who have been there and have succeeded.

>

> I wait with anticipation for any encouraging words. I thank God that you are

all out

there.

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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why are you waiting until the 10th of April?????? do not worry about sulfites

in Armour---worry about getting enough thyroid meds.

Gracia

I am suppose to start armour on the 10th of April. So that gives me time to

check it out. I

thought of that. I tried looking up Forest pharmaceuticals but haven't found a

way of

contacting them yet. Didn't look all that long though. I will definitely ask

that question.

Thanks.

Venizia

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Venezia,

Here is their website.

http://www.forestpharm.com/

I have contacted them via e-mail and they responded to me both in e-mail and

telephone communications. I have been trying to obtain my dose of Thyrolar, but

it is back ordered.

Jamye

Re: New Doctor

I am suppose to start armour on the 10th of April. So that gives me time to

check it out. I

thought of that. I tried looking up Forest pharmaceuticals but haven't found a

way of

contacting them yet. Didn't look all that long though. I will definitely ask

that question.

Thanks.

Venizia

> Well, my much anticipated appointment with my new doctor took place today.

He

is very

> knowledgable in autoimmune disease. Although I have high hopes that this

treatment

will

> be what I need, I am also anxious about it. He is a doctor that very much

believes in

> Armour. I have never tried Armour. Everything to this date has not worked

for me.

>

> He wants me to go off my levoxyl for a week and then start taking 2grains 3

times a day

of

> Armour. My concern is that he also wants me to stop taking my diuretic. I

know I will

> have a great deal of water retention doing this. I can gain 5 to 7 pounds a

day not using

> it. I am very concerned about this. I told him this and he said if I do

this, he feels I will

be

> happy with the results. He is taking one step at a time. If this doesn't

work for me, we

will

> go forward and look at other causes for my problem and remedies.

>

> What I need from anyone who has used Armour and has had it work for them is

some

> encouraging words, PLEASE.

>

> I do have confidence in this doctor. He has a wonderful reputation in this

area. I just

need

> to hear from people who have been there and have succeeded.

>

> I wait with anticipation for any encouraging words. I thank God that you are

all out

there.

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, I will look that up. Where did you find the article from Sherry

?

Venizia

> >

> > Well, my much anticipated appointment with my new doctor took place

> today. He is very

> > knowledgable in autoimmune disease. Although I have high hopes that

> this treatment will

> > be what I need, I am also anxious about it. He is a doctor that

> very much believes in

> > Armour. I have never tried Armour. Everything to this date has not

> worked for me.

> >

> > He wants me to go off my levoxyl for a week and then start taking

> 2grains 3 times a day of

> > Armour. My concern is that he also wants me to stop taking my

> diuretic. I know I will

> > have a great deal of water retention doing this. I can gain 5 to 7

> pounds a day not using

> > it. I am very concerned about this. I told him this and he said if

> I do this, he feels I will be

> > happy with the results. He is taking one step at a time. If this

> doesn't work for me, we will

> > go forward and look at other causes for my problem and remedies.

> >

> > What I need from anyone who has used Armour and has had it work for

> them is some

> > encouraging words, PLEASE.

> >

> > I do have confidence in this doctor. He has a wonderful reputation

> in this area. I just need

> > to hear from people who have been there and have succeeded.

> >

> > I wait with anticipation for any encouraging words. I thank God

> that you are all out there.

> >

> > Venizia

> >

>

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He said he wanted to get all the other meds out of my system before starting

armour.

Venizia

>

>

> why are you waiting until the 10th of April?????? do not worry about

sulfites in

Armour---worry about getting enough thyroid meds.

> Gracia

>

> I am suppose to start armour on the 10th of April. So that gives me time to

check it

out. I

> thought of that. I tried looking up Forest pharmaceuticals but haven't found

a way of

> contacting them yet. Didn't look all that long though. I will definitely ask

that question.

> Thanks.

>

> Venizia

>

>

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Hi Venezia,

I wouldn't worry about gaining the weight without your

diuretics. It is only water weight, and it seems like

he's trying to balance out your system, and then

things should be better.

I usually take Thyrolar, with is a synthetic form of

Armour, and I love it. Right now it is on back order,

so I'm anxiously awaiting its return. I think that

taking a prparation that has the t4 AND t3 is much

better, and I think you'll find it better too.

Good luck,

Roni

--- tassiter <dia47@...> wrote:

> Uf you're worried about the diuretics..you might try

> dandelion leaf..

> make sure it's the leaf, not the root. My dr wanted

> me to take

> diuretics but they are all made with sulfa and I'm

> allergic to it and

> after reading Sherry MD about how dangerous

> they really are I

> did a lot of research and found dandelion leaf to be

> the best bet, it

> has potassium in it and oh yes it works very

> well....

>

>

>

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Venezia,

I am in the same boat, no Thyrolar. Supposedly it will

come in the middle of April, but who knows?

Roni

--- Justice Family <justice_thunder@...> wrote:

> Venezia,

> Here is their website.

> http://www.forestpharm.com/

> I have contacted them via e-mail and they responded

> to me both in e-mail and telephone communications. I

> have been trying to obtain my dose of Thyrolar, but

> it is back ordered.

> Jamye

>

>

> Re: New Doctor

>

>

> I am suppose to start armour on the 10th of April.

> So that gives me time to check it out. I

> thought of that. I tried looking up Forest

> pharmaceuticals but haven't found a way of

> contacting them yet. Didn't look all that long

> though. I will definitely ask that question.

> Thanks.

>

> Venizia

>

>

> > Well, my much anticipated appointment with my

> new doctor took place today. He

> is very

> > knowledgable in autoimmune disease. Although I

> have high hopes that this treatment

> will

> > be what I need, I am also anxious about it. He

> is a doctor that very much believes in

> > Armour. I have never tried Armour. Everything to

> this date has not worked for me.

> >

> > He wants me to go off my levoxyl for a week and

> then start taking 2grains 3 times a day

> of

> > Armour. My concern is that he also wants me to

> stop taking my diuretic. I know I will

> > have a great deal of water retention doing this.

> I can gain 5 to 7 pounds a day not using

> > it. I am very concerned about this. I told him

> this and he said if I do this, he feels I will

> be

> > happy with the results. He is taking one step at

> a time. If this doesn't work for me, we

> will

> > go forward and look at other causes for my

> problem and remedies.

> >

> > What I need from anyone who has used Armour and

> has had it work for them is some

> > encouraging words, PLEASE.

> >

> > I do have confidence in this doctor. He has a

> wonderful reputation in this area. I just

> need

> > to hear from people who have been there and have

> succeeded.

> >

> > I wait with anticipation for any encouraging

> words. I thank God that you are all out

> there.

> >

> > Venizia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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>

> Hello Group,

>

> I have been following this dialog religiously for the entire time I

have been sick with this condition (9 months). This is the longest

this fungus has ever lasted and I am having serious difficulty

ridding myself of it this time.

==>Hi Lyle. This time it is taking you longer? It is very possible

you never cured your candida previously, so the time you have had

candida is much longer than 9 months. It takes 1 month of natural

healing for every year you've been unwell, and for most people

nowadays that is since before birth. The timing starts when you are

completely on the diet and taking ALL of the supplements - the whole

program works together so nothing can be left out. Also if a person

is taking " other " supplements or treatments it can interfere with

their progress.

All other candida programs do not trully address the cause, which is

a depressed immune system, because they " think " you can just " kill

off candida " to get rid of it. That isn't true at all. The only way

to cure candida is to build up the immune system so it becomes strong

enough to " make " candida change back to the friendly organism it is

supposed to be in the body.

>

> I am considering some expensive blood tests and consulting a well

known Doctor's help that has written some books on the subject , but

its going to cost me for sure.(in cash). I just wonder if anyone has

heard of a Cardio-Ion panel test. Its supposed to include all my

levels of vitamin ,mineral, triglycerides,etc. Everything from the

blood and urine results must of course be read by the Doctor and then

supplements recommended to build up the immune system just like we

are doing here.

>I have recently grown impatient with the length of this process on

Bee's diet as I must be getting back to work soon and I don't seem to

be making any real progress. I just want to know how valuable a test

like this might be if I do it and if anyone has ever heard of it.

==>Natural healing is a slow process, so it takes time, patience and

persistence doing the program. It might help you a lot to get a full

panel of tests done. Supplements alone cannot build up the immune

system and no doctor is going to recommend such a high fat diet like

I do, which is so important for candida sufferers. Many other

members have spent tons of money on such tests and evaluations, to no

avail. Also I do personal consultations; see the 1st Folder in our

Group's Files (left menu).

Bee

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Larry is you can call this Dr. and ask him for the labs he wants tested then go

to a Quest lab and have the draw the labs try to go the day of your next shot

but before it. Doing this will save you time.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: LarryP <llpete@...>

> Subject: new doctor

>

> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:00 PM

> I have an appointment with a doctor

> Steidle at North East Urology in Fort Wayne Indiana on

> Christmas Eve. He has excepted my case and will be working

> to get my testostrone levels correct. I am looking forward

> to go to this appointment and finally get things right. I

> also changed to 27 guage needle. Still drawing up with 22

> then switching to 27 but this means that I can only give

> myself .75 two days ago and in another 3 days give myself

> another shot of .75 of testostrone . The low dosage has made

> a difference already and stopped the mood swings. Of course

> once the new docter does the labs that are needed I am sure

> all this will change . So I am sure I am going to see him

> more then once but once it is set up I can probably have my

> family doctor write the prescription as it is a long way for

> me to drive with also having moderate lymphedma in my left

> leg.

>

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Well, I saw the new endo today. He seems to be better than the old one in

the respect that he want to get my T up to 400 to 500. The old one was

happy with it at 290. I asked about Estradiol. He thought there wasn't any

need to test for it, but did it anyway. Given his reaction, I assume he

just ordered the standard test. He increased my Androgel from 7.5 g (6

pumps) to 10 g (8 pumps). I go back to see him in 6 weeks. I see my new

primary care doctor in April. I specifically picked a DO. I hope he will

be better suited to this task.

If anyone knows of a good doctor in the Albuquerque area for treating low T,

please share the name.

Thanks,

.

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Well it sounds better I hope you start feeling better going up you should feel

it in less then 2 weeks.

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> From: Wharff <robertwharff@...>

> Subject: New Doctor

>

> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 1:07 PM

> Well, I saw the new endo today. 

> He seems to be better than the old one in

> the respect that he want to get my T up to 400 to

> 500.  The old one was

> happy with it at 290.  I asked about Estradiol. 

> He thought there wasn't any

> need to test for it, but did it anyway.  Given his

> reaction, I assume he

> just ordered the standard test.  He increased my

> Androgel from 7.5 g (6

> pumps) to 10 g (8 pumps).  I go back to see him in 6

> weeks.  I see my new

> primary care doctor in April.  I specifically picked a

> DO.  I hope he will

> be better suited to this task. 

>

>

>

> If anyone knows of a good doctor in the Albuquerque area

> for treating low T,

> please share the name.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> .

>

>

>

>

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