Guest guest Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 I am like this works great in the morning dies by bedtime. Or your levels are not right to high or to low. I use to do both and when I did I had a rash that would come and go on the back of my legs. One day I ran out of DIM it was on back order my rash went away when the DIM came in and I started back on it the rash came back. So I stopped the DIM can't take both. When my Estradiol levels start to get higher I get weaking wood and feel hot with hard and sore nipples at times when this happens I up the Arimidex a little then it gets better. I have yet to see a month to by that I did not have to change my dose of Arimidex up or down. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dan Lee <nvestnyuth@...> > Subject: arimidex & DIM? > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 3:44 PM > Phil & others, > > I take 1/2 tab of DIM (Pure Rip) daily. I also take .25mg > arimidex same day as my weekly injection of 200mg T shot. > Should I continue to do that? My morning wood is good, > however during sex with my wife late in the evening or > night, the wood isn't as strong and don't last long. > Thanks, > > Dan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Phil, The " getting hot " you mentioned; is it like a hot flash? I get hot (and cold) at times. It's hard to pinpoint when it happens relative to my shot. I expect it's because my estrogen is too high. Is that what you are experiencing and/or suggesting? Would it be the E is too high, too low, or both? Bill ________________________________ From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 5:23:23 PM Subject: Re: arimidex & DIM?  I am like this works great in the morning dies by bedtime. Or your levels are not right to high or to low. I use to do both and when I did I had a rash that would come and go on the back of my legs. One day I ran out of DIM it was on back order my rash went away when the DIM came in and I started back on it the rash came back. So I stopped the DIM can't take both. When my Estradiol levels start to get higher I get weaking wood and feel hot with hard and sore nipples at times when this happens I up the Arimidex a little then it gets better. I have yet to see a month to by that I did not have to change my dose of Arimidex up or down. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dan Lee <nvestnyuth@...> > Subject: arimidex & DIM? > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 3:44 PM > Phil & others, >  > I take 1/2 tab of DIM (Pure Rip) daily. I also take .25mg > arimidex same day as my weekly injection of 200mg T shot. > Should I continue to do that? My morning wood is good, > however during sex with my wife late in the evening or > night, the wood isn't as strong and don't last long. > Thanks, >  > Dan > > >    > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 As my E2 levels go up I feel hot and sweat just sitting doing nothing. What some say feels like a Hot Flash to me feels like the beginnings of a Panic Attack I am not saying high levels of E2 will cause a Panic Attack but if you have had them it will set one off. I also find when my E2 levels are going up it's not the same feeling every time some times I just get sore and hard nipples with weak wood. Other times I will look red like I have a sunburn on my upper body and face. One thing that has not happened in some time is a rash I would get between my small toe on my right foot odd this this was going on for a long time. Now I don't see it anymore it would itch like mad and I was thinking it was Athlete's foot but when I took a little more Arimidex it went away. If I let my E2 go up to high before I take a little more Arimidex I will have a Panic Attack. I find the hardest hormone to control is E2. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Dan Lee <nvestnyuth@...> > > Subject: arimidex & DIM? > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 3:44 PM > > Phil & others, > > > > I take 1/2 tab of DIM (Pure Rip) daily. I also take > .25mg > > arimidex same day as my weekly injection of 200mg T > shot. > > Should I continue to do that? My morning wood is > good, > > however during sex with my wife late in the evening > or > > night, the wood isn't as strong and don't last > long. > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Phil, I am going to start Arimidex. DHEA as well. Any suggestions on what to monitor or how to know if it's working properly or not? I.e.g, what would I experience if the Arimidex is too strong or not strong enough, if I have the right dosage? Bill ________________________________ From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 12:53:25 PM Subject: Re: arimidex & DIM? As my E2 levels go up I feel hot and sweat just sitting doing nothing. What some say feels like a Hot Flash to me feels like the beginnings of a Panic Attack I am not saying high levels of E2 will cause a Panic Attack but if you have had them it will set one off. I also find when my E2 levels are going up it's not the same feeling every time some times I just get sore and hard nipples with weak wood. Other times I will look red like I have a sunburn on my upper body and face. One thing that has not happened in some time is a rash I would get between my small toe on my right foot odd this this was going on for a long time. Now I don't see it anymore it would itch like mad and I was thinking it was Athlete's foot but when I took a little more Arimidex it went away. If I let my E2 go up to high before I take a little more Arimidex I will have a Panic Attack. I find the hardest hormone to control is E2. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Dan Lee <nvestnyuth@...> > > Subject: arimidex & DIM? > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 3:44 PM > > Phil & others, > > > > I take 1/2 tab of DIM (Pure Rip) daily. I also take > .25mg > > arimidex same day as my weekly injection of 200mg T > shot. > > Should I continue to do that? My morning wood is > good, > > however during sex with my wife late in the evening > or > > night, the wood isn't as strong and don't last > long. > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I big thing about E2 and keeping it in the sweet spot is to keep a log on what your taking to keep it down and how you feel. I had ED for 10 yrs.on TRT not knowing it was high Estradiol E2. When I first tested it I was very high over the top of the range and needed to take a lot of Arimidex to get this down. To my surprise the first thing that happened was my night time and morning involuntary nocturnal erections that appear during REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep came back after not having them for many yrs. So today I gage my E2 levels by this and I call it wood. Here is a copy of a file I made about going to low on Arimidex and this is the hardest hormone men have to keep leveled it keeps changing going up or down even on Arimidex so you need to keep a log so you can tell how you feel when it's going up or falling to low and to take more Arimidex or less of it. As I got mine down on gels I found taking just .25 mgs every 5 days I went to low. But my levels for TT were to low as I got on shots and got my levels higher and felt much better at them higher levels I found I need more arimidex to keep my E2 down. When I wake up in the morning and don't feel I had night time wood I would see if I could get it up before getting out of bed. If it I could get up up fast and it was very strong I knew I was OK. But it took a long time to get it up and it was weak I knew my levels were going up. Or if I could not get it up I knew I feel to low and needed to stop the Arimidex for a time. My levels would come back up fast as long as I caught this fast so one needs to check this every morning I know it's a pain in the A** but it needs to be done. The long your to low the longer it takes to get back up. And I use labs to confirm what I am doing. =================================================== How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low. What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs. The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it. Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs. I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up. I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days. So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days. I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need ..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days. So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel. Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face. --------------------------------------------------- If you go to low on .25mgs every 5 days then try getting it compounded. =================================================== Most compounding pharmacies will require a prescription from a doctor, before they do this. Once your prescription says " 300 caps x 0.1mg " or " 600 caps x 0.05mg " anastrozole " from 1 to 4 daily " , (anastrozole = generic arimidex) then they will compound your arimidex, or generic anastrozole, and they will usually supply the arimidex as compounded into the caps you require. My compounding pharmacist was prepared to allow me to supply the arimidex too. If you have several boxes of arimidex in your cupboard, then you may want to ask your pharmacist to do this for you. If you don't have any arimidex stores, then just let the compounding pharmacy supply the whole lot. ### A pack of 30 tabs of 1.0mg arimidex will give 300 caps at 0.1mg-per-cap, or 600 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap. So if your pharmacy chooses to supply arimidex as opposed to generic anastrozole, then your pharmacy will most likely not agree to only charge you for a half-a-box of arimidex, and most likely they'll charge for a whole box, even if your prescription says 300 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap (total of 15mg). --------------------------------------------------- Or try Indolplex/DIM ==================================================== ALL ABOUT DIM. Sure here is a few links that are all about it. But there are a lot of Co.'s out there selling DIM that don't work well. Indolplex/DIM is the best it dose not get killed in your stomach when you take it. Diindolylmethane (DIM) is a stable indole found in cruciferous vegetables which promotes a beneficial estrogen metabolism in both women and men. http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm in this link it's full of links about it. http://qualitycounts.com/fpdim.html http://www.jbc.org/content/278/23/21136.full If you have DIM in caps it's not Indolplex so to take this and to get it to work open the cap pore the DIM into a spoon add some Olive oil and take it this helps to keep it from getting killed in your stomach. The following is some links to where you can buy Indolplex/DIM. http://www.vitaglo.com/e5336.html http://www.vitacost.com/EnzymaticTherapyEstroBalancewithDIM/searchby-PN/searchte\ xt-dim http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0 http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0 http://www.estrobalance.net/ http://www.easyhealthzone.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PP0108 & click=71 http://www.nbizz.com/longevityclinic/listings/213.html http://www.drugnatural.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD & Store_Code=DMOS & Product_\ Code=156497 http://www.smartbomb.com/itindo9.html?utm_source=mercent & utm_medium=shopcompare & \ utm_content=itindo9 & utm_campaign=mbsdb & mr:trackingCode=C6AEFBD1-E681-DE11-B7F3-0\ 019B9C043EB & mr:referralID=NA http://www.ritecare.com/cgi-bin/cart.pl?db=product_db.dat & category=natural+medic\ ine & method=any_words & search=iti-75336 http://www.naturamart.com/phytopharmica-pms-formula-with-indoplex-120-caps.html How to take Indolplex/DIM take one tablet 120 mgs at dinner time it can take 2 weeks to 2 months to get your Estradiol levels down it’s all about how high you are in your levels. What you need to do is get this down to about 20 pg/ml. When you get this low your night time and morning wood will come back so strong it will wake you up this means most of the time your at your best levels or what I call the sweet spot. Keep taking the DIM but if your wood stops your going down to low so just stop taking it. The day your wood comes back go back on the DIM but cut the tablet in half. If your Testosterone was tested and low but your not on TRT get it tested again you might find your levels came up some 200 to 300 points. http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174 Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: Dan Lee <nvestnyuth@...> > > > Subject: arimidex & DIM? > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 3:44 PM > > > Phil & others, > > > > > > I take 1/2 tab of DIM (Pure Rip) daily. I > also take > > .25mg > > > arimidex same day as my weekly injection of 200mg > T > > shot. > > > Should I continue to do that? My morning > wood is > > good, > > > however during sex with my wife late in the > evening > > or > > > night, the wood isn't as strong and don't last > > long. > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > >     > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Hi Guys, Has anybody besides me noticed that your blood pressure goes up and down along with estradiol. Mine sure seems to! Mine will run way too high but when I take Arimidex or DIM it will bring my blood pressure down as well. I am not sure exactly what my E2 is at any given time it has been as high as 59 and as low as 6 on labs but mostly I just have to guess at it because I have yet to find a local doctor who understands the importance of testing it. Heck I have to fight like mad to get any labs done. Brett arimidex & DIM? > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 3:44 PM > > > Phil & others, > > > > > > I take 1/2 tab of DIM (Pure Rip) daily. I > also take > > .25mg > > > arimidex same day as my weekly injection of 200mg > T > > shot. > > > Should I continue to do that? My morning > wood is > > good, > > > however during sex with my wife late in the > evening > > or > > > night, the wood isn't as strong and don't last > > long. > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Hi Brett, When my E2 goes to high my body holds a lot of water this will make your BP go up. My BP on meds is to low this morning it's 110/56 when I stand up I need to not move for a min. or I will passout. If you can't get your Dr. to test your Estradiol get it from this site I think it's $44.00. http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/ItemLC004515/Estradiol-Blood-Test.html Trying telling your Dr. to read these links. http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174 http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/nov2008_Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Ag\ ing-Male_01.htm What dose your Free Testosterone levels look like high Estradiol binds up this and you end up with low levels. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > From: Dan Lee <nvestnyuth@...> > > > > Subject: arimidex & DIM? > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 3:44 PM > > > > Phil & others, > > > > > > > > I take 1/2 tab of DIM (Pure Rip) daily. I > > also take > > > .25mg > > > > arimidex same day as my weekly injection of > 200mg > > T > > > shot. > > > > Should I continue to do that? My morning > > wood is > > > good, > > > > however during sex with my wife late in the > > evening > > > or > > > > night, the wood isn't as strong and don't > last > > > long. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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