Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Btw guys I new feel flu symptoms with pain in hands and arms and legs and weakness and fast pulse and still pain in stomach. Any ideas? I started these 4 days ago: 0.25 mg arimidex 3 x a week 25.000 iu Vitamin A 100 mg elemental iron ferrous sulfate " Ferrograd 500 " 2 mg Copper Maybe one of these are causing problems for me? Now I feel VERY sick like flu. Stress dose HC I suppose? T. Sendt fra min iPhone Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 16.17 skrev Gibcast <gibcast@...>: I take what Hertoghe tells me to take. And he didn't tell me to tahe Q10 yet. I did a test for it in serum in March last year, and it showed up high in range. Meaning I don't need to take it right? > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when my thyroid was > low. When you > > experience palpitations, you definitely know it is > happening. For me, it > > would feel like my heart was beating just fine, then > all of a sudden, it > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat would be more > intense than any of the > > previous beats. > > > > I do not know how reliable this site is, but for what > it is worth, check > > this out: > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports and categorizes > the data. They have > > charts showing how long people have been on Arimidex > before experiencing > > palpitations, percentages of females and males, ages, > etc. Kind of > > interesting… > > > > Basically, the site said that there have been 77 > reports of palpitations on > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people reporting problems > were female and 3.66% > > were male. Most of the people experiencing these > problems were older (78.08% > > were age 60+). > > > > Here is a “way out there†thought… Decreasing > estradiols can increase > > testosterone. Increased testosterone can decrease > thyroid levels. How long > > does this take to happen? Can it happen very quickly > for some guys? Could > > the heart palpitations be a sign of decreased > thyroid? > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is possible to happen > that quickly, but I > > thought I would pose the question anyway. > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women experience > palpitations and/or > > racing heart beats with the onset of menopause. > Menopause can sometimes > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in hormone levels – > including estrogen. Maybe > > the guys experiencing palpitations after taking > Arimidex are more sensitive > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > From: > [mailto: ] > > On Behalf Of > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles and stops then > beats again. Like > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every heartbeat. > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe i should go to > sleep? > > > > T. > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev <uu1845@... > <mailto: > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > , how do you medically know you have heart > complications? If you feel > > that you, please cut off your PC / Netbook / etc and > go to the ER. Come on > > , how can we help if you are having heart > problems? I am still dealing > > with what happened to me in Nov and I have been to > many specialists and had > > tests done. So , no more worrying if E2 for now > and get yourself a > > proper diagnosis if you feel you have cardiogical > problems. Most of us on > > this site are on your side and want you to get healthy > but do your job also > > > > Palpitations > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from MANY " skipped > heart beats " .. Can this > > be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no sugar > in it today. I am > > worried about low Potassium, cause I know it's low in > RBC. > > > > :\ > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it affect the > heart like this? I > > took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 pm and one 0.25 > mg on Sunday morning > > at 11 am. > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid 60s, > then it skips, and > > stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I gave you a copy of a file I made about going to low on Arimidex here it is again read it follow it. We are all not the same some men can take .25 mgs of arimidex every 3 days and get good night time wood in a week. Others it can take weeks it is said it takes 5 weeks for Arimidex to stabilize in the body once this happens it work very fast. ================================================ How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low. What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs. The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it. Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs. I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up. I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days. So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days. I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need ..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days. So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel. Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: <hostmaster@...> > > > Subject: RE: Palpitations > > > > > > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 10:26 PM > > > I used to have heart palpitations > > > when my thyroid was low. When you experience > > > palpitations, you definitely know it is happening. > For > > > me, it would feel like my heart was beating just fine, > then > > > all of a sudden, it would miss a beat. Then, the > next > > > beat would be more intense than any of the previous > beats. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site is, but for what > it is > > > worth, check this out: > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports and categorizes > the > > > data. They have charts showing how long people have > > > been on Arimidex before experiencing palpitations, > > > percentages of females and males, ages, etc. Kind > of > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there have been 77 > reports of > > > palpitations on Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people > > > reporting problems were female and 3.66% were male. > > > Most of the people experiencing these problems were > older > > > (78.08% were age 60+). > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there†thought… Decreasing > > > estradiols can increase testosterone. Increased > > > testosterone can decrease thyroid levels. How long > > > does this take to happen? Can it happen very > quickly > > > for some guys? Could the heart palpitations be a > sign > > > of decreased thyroid? > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is possible to happen > that > > > quickly, but I thought I would pose the question > anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women experience > > > palpitations and/or racing heart beats with the onset > of > > > menopause. Menopause can sometimes cause a somewhat > > > sudden drop in hormone levels – including > estrogen. > > > Maybe the guys experiencing palpitations after taking > > > Arimidex are more sensitive and just need to take > smaller > > > doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > [mailto: ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles and stops > then > > > beats again. Like it's skipping. I hear/feel every > > > heartbeat. > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe i should go > to > > > sleep? > > > > > > T. > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev <uu1845@... > > > <mailto:uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > , how do you medically know you have heart > > > complications? If you feel that you, please cut off > your PC > > > / Netbook / etc and go to the ER. Come on , how > can we > > > help if you are having heart problems? I am still > dealing > > > with what happened to me in Nov and I have been to > many > > > specialists and had tests done. So , no more > worrying > > > if E2 for now and get yourself a proper diagnosis if > you > > > feel you have cardiogical problems. Most of us on this > site > > > are on your side and want you to get healthy but do > your job > > > also > > > > > > Palpitations > > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from MANY " skipped > heart > > > beats " .. Can this be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no sugar > in > > > it today. I am worried about low Potassium, cause I > know > > > it's low in RBC. > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it affect > the > > > heart like this? I took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at > 11 pm > > > and one 0.25 mg on Sunday morning at 11 am. > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid 60s, > then > > > it skips, and stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Then you don't need it. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when my thyroid > was > > > low. When you > > > > experience palpitations, you definitely know it > is > > > happening. For me, it > > > > would feel like my heart was beating just fine, > then > > > all of a sudden, it > > > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat would be > more > > > intense than any of the > > > > previous beats. > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site is, but for > what > > > it is worth, check > > > > this out: > > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports and > categorizes > > > the data. They have > > > > charts showing how long people have been on > Arimidex > > > before experiencing > > > > palpitations, percentages of females and males, > ages, > > > etc. Kind of > > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there have been 77 > > > reports of palpitations on > > > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people reporting > problems > > > were female and 3.66% > > > > were male. Most of the people experiencing these > > > problems were older (78.08% > > > > were age 60+). > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there†thought… > Decreasing > > > estradiols can increase > > > > testosterone. Increased testosterone can > decrease > > > thyroid levels. How long > > > > does this take to happen? Can it happen very > quickly > > > for some guys? Could > > > > the heart palpitations be a sign of decreased > > > thyroid? > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is possible to > happen > > > that quickly, but I > > > > thought I would pose the question anyway. > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women > experience > > > palpitations and/or > > > > racing heart beats with the onset of menopause. > > > Menopause can sometimes > > > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in hormone levels > – > > > including estrogen. Maybe > > > > the guys experiencing palpitations after taking > > > Arimidex are more sensitive > > > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > [mailto: ] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles and stops > then > > > beats again. Like > > > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every heartbeat. > > > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe i should > go to > > > sleep? > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev <uu1845@... > > > <mailto: > > > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > > > , how do you medically know you have heart > > > complications? If you feel > > > > that you, please cut off your PC / Netbook / etc > and > > > go to the ER. Come on > > > > , how can we help if you are having heart > > > problems? I am still dealing > > > > with what happened to me in Nov and I have been > to > > > many specialists and had > > > > tests done. So , no more worrying if E2 for > now > > > and get yourself a > > > > proper diagnosis if you feel you have > cardiogical > > > problems. Most of us on > > > > this site are on your side and want you to get > healthy > > > but do your job also > > > > > > > > Palpitations > > > > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from MANY > " skipped > > > heart beats " .. Can this > > > > be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no > sugar > > > in it today. I am > > > > worried about low Potassium, cause I know it's > low in > > > RBC. > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > affect the > > > heart like this? I > > > > took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 pm and one > 0.25 > > > mg on Sunday morning > > > > at 11 am. > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid > 60s, > > > then it skips, and > > > > stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Sounds to me like you have the flu but don't take more meds. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when my thyroid > was > > > low. When you > > > > experience palpitations, you definitely know it > is > > > happening. For me, it > > > > would feel like my heart was beating just fine, > then > > > all of a sudden, it > > > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat would be > more > > > intense than any of the > > > > previous beats. > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site is, but for > what > > > it is worth, check > > > > this out: > > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports and > categorizes > > > the data. They have > > > > charts showing how long people have been on > Arimidex > > > before experiencing > > > > palpitations, percentages of females and males, > ages, > > > etc. Kind of > > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there have been 77 > > > reports of palpitations on > > > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people reporting > problems > > > were female and 3.66% > > > > were male. Most of the people experiencing these > > > problems were older (78.08% > > > > were age 60+). > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there†thought… > Decreasing > > > estradiols can increase > > > > testosterone. Increased testosterone can > decrease > > > thyroid levels. How long > > > > does this take to happen? Can it happen very > quickly > > > for some guys? Could > > > > the heart palpitations be a sign of decreased > > > thyroid? > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is possible to > happen > > > that quickly, but I > > > > thought I would pose the question anyway. > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women > experience > > > palpitations and/or > > > > racing heart beats with the onset of menopause. > > > Menopause can sometimes > > > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in hormone levels > – > > > including estrogen. Maybe > > > > the guys experiencing palpitations after taking > > > Arimidex are more sensitive > > > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > [mailto: ] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles and stops > then > > > beats again. Like > > > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every heartbeat. > > > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe i should > go to > > > sleep? > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev <uu1845@... > > > <mailto: > > > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > > > , how do you medically know you have heart > > > complications? If you feel > > > > that you, please cut off your PC / Netbook / etc > and > > > go to the ER. Come on > > > > , how can we help if you are having heart > > > problems? I am still dealing > > > > with what happened to me in Nov and I have been > to > > > many specialists and had > > > > tests done. So , no more worrying if E2 for > now > > > and get yourself a > > > > proper diagnosis if you feel you have > cardiogical > > > problems. Most of us on > > > > this site are on your side and want you to get > healthy > > > but do your job also > > > > > > > > Palpitations > > > > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from MANY > " skipped > > > heart beats " .. Can this > > > > be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no > sugar > > > in it today. I am > > > > worried about low Potassium, cause I know it's > low in > > > RBC. > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > affect the > > > heart like this? I > > > > took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 pm and one > 0.25 > > > mg on Sunday morning > > > > at 11 am. > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid > 60s, > > > then it skips, and > > > > stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Seriously NO stress dose of HC? Thought flu was a major user of cortisol? I feel like I need more, Hertoghe taught me that flus need more HC. My only fear is potassium getting lower when you increase HC. Do I need the ER? Sendt fra min iPhone Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 17.25 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: Sounds to me like you have the flu but don't take more meds. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when my thyroid > was > > > low. When you > > > > experience palpitations, you definitely know it > is > > > happening. For me, it > > > > would feel like my heart was beating just fine, > then > > > all of a sudden, it > > > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat would be > more > > > intense than any of the > > > > previous beats. > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site is, but for > what > > > it is worth, check > > > > this out: > > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports and > categorizes > > > the data. They have > > > > charts showing how long people have been on > Arimidex > > > before experiencing > > > > palpitations, percentages of females and males, > ages, > > > etc. Kind of > > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there have been 77 > > > reports of palpitations on > > > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people reporting > problems > > > were female and 3.66% > > > > were male. Most of the people experiencing these > > > problems were older (78.08% > > > > were age 60+). > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there†thought… > Decreasing > > > estradiols can increase > > > > testosterone. Increased testosterone can > decrease > > > thyroid levels. How long > > > > does this take to happen? Can it happen very > quickly > > > for some guys? Could > > > > the heart palpitations be a sign of decreased > > > thyroid? > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is possible to > happen > > > that quickly, but I > > > > thought I would pose the question anyway. > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women > experience > > > palpitations and/or > > > > racing heart beats with the onset of menopause. > > > Menopause can sometimes > > > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in hormone levels > – > > > including estrogen. Maybe > > > > the guys experiencing palpitations after taking > > > Arimidex are more sensitive > > > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > [mailto: ] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles and stops > then > > > beats again. Like > > > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every heartbeat. > > > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe i should > go to > > > sleep? > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev <uu1845@... > > > <mailto: > > > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > > > , how do you medically know you have heart > > > complications? If you feel > > > > that you, please cut off your PC / Netbook / etc > and > > > go to the ER. Come on > > > > , how can we help if you are having heart > > > problems? I am still dealing > > > > with what happened to me in Nov and I have been > to > > > many specialists and had > > > > tests done. So , no more worrying if E2 for > now > > > and get yourself a > > > > proper diagnosis if you feel you have > cardiogical > > > problems. Most of us on > > > > this site are on your side and want you to get > healthy > > > but do your job also > > > > > > > > Palpitations > > > > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from MANY > " skipped > > > heart beats " .. Can this > > > > be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no > sugar > > > in it today. I am > > > > worried about low Potassium, cause I know it's > low in > > > RBC. > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > affect the > > > heart like this? I > > > > took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 pm and one > 0.25 > > > mg on Sunday morning > > > > at 11 am. > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid > 60s, > > > then it skips, and > > > > stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 , Just to reiterate what someone else said - we are not doctors. If you feel that you need to go to the ER, then go. No one on here, even doctors, can make that decision for you. Whenever I get the flu, I always go to the ER for the IV fluids because I can never keep fluids down. I have insurance though so it costs me very little to go to the ER. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:36 AM, <gibcast@...> wrote: > > > Seriously NO stress dose of HC? Thought flu was a major user of cortisol? I > feel like I need more, Hertoghe taught me that flus need more HC. My only > fear is potassium getting lower when you increase HC. > > Do I need the ER? > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 17.25 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: > > Sounds to me like you have the flu but don't take more meds. > Co-Moderator > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when my thyroid > > was > > > > > low. When you > > > > > > experience palpitations, you definitely know it > > is > > > > > happening. For me, it > > > > > > would feel like my heart was beating just fine, > > then > > > > > all of a sudden, it > > > > > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat would be > > more > > > > > intense than any of the > > > > > > previous beats. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site is, but for > > what > > > > > it is worth, check > > > > > > this out: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports and > > categorizes > > > > > the data. They have > > > > > > charts showing how long people have been on > > Arimidex > > > > > before experiencing > > > > > > palpitations, percentages of females and males, > > ages, > > > > > etc. Kind of > > > > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there have been 77 > > > > > reports of palpitations on > > > > > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people reporting > > problems > > > > > were female and 3.66% > > > > > > were male. Most of the people experiencing these > > > > > problems were older (78.08% > > > > > > were age 60+). > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there” thought… > > Decreasing > > > > > estradiols can increase > > > > > > testosterone. Increased testosterone can > > decrease > > > > > thyroid levels. How long > > > > > > does this take to happen? Can it happen very > > quickly > > > > > for some guys? Could > > > > > > the heart palpitations be a sign of decreased > > > > > thyroid? > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is possible to > > happen > > > > > that quickly, but I > > > > > > thought I would pose the question anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women > > experience > > > > > palpitations and/or > > > > > > racing heart beats with the onset of menopause. > > > > > Menopause can sometimes > > > > > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in hormone levels > > – > > > > > including estrogen. Maybe > > > > > > the guys experiencing palpitations after taking > > > > > Arimidex are more sensitive > > > > > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > > > [mailto: ] > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles and stops > > then > > > > > beats again. Like > > > > > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every heartbeat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe i should > > go to > > > > > sleep? > > > > > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev <uu1845@... > > > > > <mailto: > > > > > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > > > > > > > , how do you medically know you have heart > > > > > complications? If you feel > > > > > > that you, please cut off your PC / Netbook / etc > > and > > > > > go to the ER. Come on > > > > > > , how can we help if you are having heart > > > > > problems? I am still dealing > > > > > > with what happened to me in Nov and I have been > > to > > > > > many specialists and had > > > > > > tests done. So , no more worrying if E2 for > > now > > > > > and get yourself a > > > > > > proper diagnosis if you feel you have > > cardiogical > > > > > problems. Most of us on > > > > > > this site are on your side and want you to get > > healthy > > > > > but do your job also > > > > > > > > > > > > Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from MANY > > " skipped > > > > > heart beats " .. Can this > > > > > > be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no > > sugar > > > > > in it today. I am > > > > > > worried about low Potassium, cause I know it's > > low in > > > > > RBC. > > > > > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > > affect the > > > > > heart like this? I > > > > > > took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 pm and one > > 0.25 > > > > > mg on Sunday morning > > > > > > at 11 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid > > 60s, > > > > > then it skips, and > > > > > > stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 If your having a heart problem get to the hosp. If you have the flu are you running a fever I mean how do you know. Yes it's said if your coming down with the fle take 20 mgs more per day of HC for a few days it is said to stop the flu. But your saying you have felt like this 4 days now. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when my > thyroid > > was > > > > > low. When you > > > > > > experience palpitations, you definitely know > it > > is > > > > > happening. For me, it > > > > > > would feel like my heart was beating just > fine, > > then > > > > > all of a sudden, it > > > > > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat would > be > > more > > > > > intense than any of the > > > > > > previous beats. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site is, but > for > > what > > > > > it is worth, check > > > > > > this out: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports and > > categorizes > > > > > the data. They have > > > > > > charts showing how long people have been on > > Arimidex > > > > > before experiencing > > > > > > palpitations, percentages of females and > males, > > ages, > > > > > etc. Kind of > > > > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there have > been 77 > > > > > reports of palpitations on > > > > > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people > reporting > > problems > > > > > were female and 3.66% > > > > > > were male. Most of the people experiencing > these > > > > > problems were older (78.08% > > > > > > were age 60+). > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there†thought… > > Decreasing > > > > > estradiols can increase > > > > > > testosterone. Increased testosterone can > > decrease > > > > > thyroid levels. How long > > > > > > does this take to happen? Can it happen > very > > quickly > > > > > for some guys? Could > > > > > > the heart palpitations be a sign of > decreased > > > > > thyroid? > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is possible > to > > happen > > > > > that quickly, but I > > > > > > thought I would pose the question anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women > > experience > > > > > palpitations and/or > > > > > > racing heart beats with the onset of > menopause. > > > > > Menopause can sometimes > > > > > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in hormone > levels > > – > > > > > including estrogen. Maybe > > > > > > the guys experiencing palpitations after > taking > > > > > Arimidex are more sensitive > > > > > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > > > [mailto: ] > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles and > stops > > then > > > > > beats again. Like > > > > > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every heartbeat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe i > should > > go to > > > > > sleep? > > > > > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev <uu1845@... > > > > > <mailto: > > > > > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > > > > > > > , how do you medically know you have > heart > > > > > complications? If you feel > > > > > > that you, please cut off your PC / Netbook / > etc > > and > > > > > go to the ER. Come on > > > > > > , how can we help if you are having > heart > > > > > problems? I am still dealing > > > > > > with what happened to me in Nov and I have > been > > to > > > > > many specialists and had > > > > > > tests done. So , no more worrying if > E2 for > > now > > > > > and get yourself a > > > > > > proper diagnosis if you feel you have > > cardiogical > > > > > problems. Most of us on > > > > > > this site are on your side and want you to > get > > healthy > > > > > but do your job also > > > > > > > > > > > > Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from MANY > > " skipped > > > > > heart beats " .. Can this > > > > > > be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter > with no > > sugar > > > > > in it today. I am > > > > > > worried about low Potassium, cause I know > it's > > low in > > > > > RBC. > > > > > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > > affect the > > > > > heart like this? I > > > > > > took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 pm > and one > > 0.25 > > > > > mg on Sunday morning > > > > > > at 11 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe > mid > > 60s, > > > > > then it skips, and > > > > > > stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 No I have felt like this Today only; pain in stomach, higher temp, faster pulse, flu pains. The heart best irregularly only yesterday. Sendt fra min iPhone Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 17.52 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: If your having a heart problem get to the hosp. If you have the flu are you running a fever I mean how do you know. Yes it's said if your coming down with the fle take 20 mgs more per day of HC for a few days it is said to stop the flu. But your saying you have felt like this 4 days now. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when my > thyroid > > was > > > > > low. When you > > > > > > experience palpitations, you definitely know > it > > is > > > > > happening. For me, it > > > > > > would feel like my heart was beating just > fine, > > then > > > > > all of a sudden, it > > > > > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat would > be > > more > > > > > intense than any of the > > > > > > previous beats. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site is, but > for > > what > > > > > it is worth, check > > > > > > this out: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports and > > categorizes > > > > > the data. They have > > > > > > charts showing how long people have been on > > Arimidex > > > > > before experiencing > > > > > > palpitations, percentages of females and > males, > > ages, > > > > > etc. Kind of > > > > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there have > been 77 > > > > > reports of palpitations on > > > > > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people > reporting > > problems > > > > > were female and 3.66% > > > > > > were male. Most of the people experiencing > these > > > > > problems were older (78.08% > > > > > > were age 60+). > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there†thought… > > Decreasing > > > > > estradiols can increase > > > > > > testosterone. Increased testosterone can > > decrease > > > > > thyroid levels. How long > > > > > > does this take to happen? Can it happen > very > > quickly > > > > > for some guys? Could > > > > > > the heart palpitations be a sign of > decreased > > > > > thyroid? > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is possible > to > > happen > > > > > that quickly, but I > > > > > > thought I would pose the question anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women > > experience > > > > > palpitations and/or > > > > > > racing heart beats with the onset of > menopause. > > > > > Menopause can sometimes > > > > > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in hormone > levels > > – > > > > > including estrogen. Maybe > > > > > > the guys experiencing palpitations after > taking > > > > > Arimidex are more sensitive > > > > > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > > > [mailto: ] > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles and > stops > > then > > > > > beats again. Like > > > > > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every heartbeat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe i > should > > go to > > > > > sleep? > > > > > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev <uu1845@... > > > > > <mailto: > > > > > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > > > > > > > , how do you medically know you have > heart > > > > > complications? If you feel > > > > > > that you, please cut off your PC / Netbook / > etc > > and > > > > > go to the ER. Come on > > > > > > , how can we help if you are having > heart > > > > > problems? I am still dealing > > > > > > with what happened to me in Nov and I have > been > > to > > > > > many specialists and had > > > > > > tests done. So , no more worrying if > E2 for > > now > > > > > and get yourself a > > > > > > proper diagnosis if you feel you have > > cardiogical > > > > > problems. Most of us on > > > > > > this site are on your side and want you to > get > > healthy > > > > > but do your job also > > > > > > > > > > > > Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from MANY > > " skipped > > > > > heart beats " .. Can this > > > > > > be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter > with no > > sugar > > > > > in it today. I am > > > > > > worried about low Potassium, cause I know > it's > > low in > > > > > RBC. > > > > > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > > affect the > > > > > heart like this? I > > > > > > took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 pm > and one > > 0.25 > > > > > mg on Sunday morning > > > > > > at 11 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe > mid > > 60s, > > > > > then it skips, and > > > > > > stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Do you know how to stress dose did your Dr. tell you how to do this. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when > my > > thyroid > > > was > > > > > > > low. When you > > > > > > > > experience palpitations, you definitely > know > > it > > > is > > > > > > > happening. For me, it > > > > > > > > would feel like my heart was beating > just > > fine, > > > then > > > > > > > all of a sudden, it > > > > > > > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat > would > > be > > > more > > > > > > > intense than any of the > > > > > > > > previous beats. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site > is, but > > for > > > what > > > > > > > it is worth, check > > > > > > > > this out: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports > and > > > categorizes > > > > > > > the data. They have > > > > > > > > charts showing how long people have > been on > > > Arimidex > > > > > > > before experiencing > > > > > > > > palpitations, percentages of females > and > > males, > > > ages, > > > > > > > etc. Kind of > > > > > > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there > have > > been 77 > > > > > > > reports of palpitations on > > > > > > > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people > > reporting > > > problems > > > > > > > were female and 3.66% > > > > > > > > were male. Most of the people > experiencing > > these > > > > > > > problems were older (78.08% > > > > > > > > were age 60+). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there†> thought… > > > Decreasing > > > > > > > estradiols can increase > > > > > > > > testosterone. Increased testosterone > can > > > decrease > > > > > > > thyroid levels. How long > > > > > > > > does this take to happen? Can it > happen > > very > > > quickly > > > > > > > for some guys? Could > > > > > > > > the heart palpitations be a sign of > > decreased > > > > > > > thyroid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is > possible > > to > > > happen > > > > > > > that quickly, but I > > > > > > > > thought I would pose the question > anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women > > > experience > > > > > > > palpitations and/or > > > > > > > > racing heart beats with the onset of > > menopause. > > > > > > > Menopause can sometimes > > > > > > > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in > hormone > > levels > > > – > > > > > > > including estrogen. Maybe > > > > > > > > the guys experiencing palpitations > after > > taking > > > > > > > Arimidex are more sensitive > > > > > > > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > > > > > [mailto: ] > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: > Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles > and > > stops > > > then > > > > > > > beats again. Like > > > > > > > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every > heartbeat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe > i > > should > > > go to > > > > > > > sleep? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev > <uu1845@... > > > > > > > <mailto: > > > > > > > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , how do you medically know you > have > > heart > > > > > > > complications? If you feel > > > > > > > > that you, please cut off your PC / > Netbook / > > etc > > > and > > > > > > > go to the ER. Come on > > > > > > > > , how can we help if you are > having > > heart > > > > > > > problems? I am still dealing > > > > > > > > with what happened to me in Nov and I > have > > been > > > to > > > > > > > many specialists and had > > > > > > > > tests done. So , no more worrying > if > > E2 for > > > now > > > > > > > and get yourself a > > > > > > > > proper diagnosis if you feel you have > > > cardiogical > > > > > > > problems. Most of us on > > > > > > > > this site are on your side and want you > to > > get > > > healthy > > > > > > > but do your job also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from > MANY > > > " skipped > > > > > > > heart beats " .. Can this > > > > > > > > be Arimidex doing this to me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut > butter > > with no > > > sugar > > > > > > > in it today. I am > > > > > > > > worried about low Potassium, cause I > know > > it's > > > low in > > > > > > > RBC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? > Can it > > > affect the > > > > > > > heart like this? I > > > > > > > > took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 > pm > > and one > > > 0.25 > > > > > > > mg on Sunday morning > > > > > > > > at 11 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, > maybe > > mid > > > 60s, > > > > > > > then it skips, and > > > > > > > > stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message > have > > been > > > > > > >    > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I have something to add about Arimidex and heart Palpitations. Somewhere on the Internet, I cant remember where, there is a table that shows that the older you are the more likely arimidex will cause heart palpitations. For people over 60 like me there is almost an 80% chance this will happen. I started taking Arimidix .25 Mg a couple of months ago and found this to be too much and got heart palpitations. I kept going too low on E2. I must have cut the does in half 10 times and even at very low doses I still get heart palpitations. My blood pressure would also go up and my pulse rate would increase. I think I will need to give up on arimidex because of this. Unfortunately DIM causes me headaches so I dont have any option sleft for reducing E2. My E2 was 20pg/ml when I started but reducing from there did improve erectile function. I am now considering losing about 25 pounds to try and reduce aromatization from fat. has anyone had success with this idea? I dont need to reduce E2 very much so I figure this may work and have other beneficial effects as well. > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > > Subject: Palpitations > > > > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 7:32 PM > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from > > MANY " skipped heart beats " .. Can this be Arimidex doing this > > to me? > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no sugar in > > it today. I am worried about low Potassium, cause I know > > it's low in RBC. > > > > :\ > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it affect the > > heart like this? I took one 0.25 mg on Friday night at 11 pm > > and one 0.25 mg on Sunday morning at 11 am. > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid 60s, then > > it skips, and stops and start again, really slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I would never take Arimidex with an Estradiol level of 20 pg/ml. You can do Zinc/Copper it will help lower estradiol levels. I feel any man doing .25 mgs of Arimidex with a starting level of 20 pg/ml is over doing it your feeling bad from driving down your Estradiol levels to low. Try taking this every 12 hrs. for a month then just once a day. Later switch to ZMA at bedtime and try 2 mgs of Copper at noon. Taking Zinc lowers Copper so you need to supplement the Zinc with Copper. We men are all low on Zinc due to the corn fed meat we eat. http://www.myvitanet.com/zincop100cnt.html Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dale <etherial@...> > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 12:30 PM > I have something to add about > Arimidex and heart Palpitations. > > Somewhere on the Internet, I cant remember where, there is > a table that shows that the older you are the more likely > arimidex will cause heart palpitations. For people > over 60 like me there is almost an 80% chance this will > happen. > I started taking Arimidix .25 Mg a couple of months ago and > found this to be too much and got heart palpitations. > I kept going too low > on E2. I must have cut the does in half 10 times and > even at very low doses I still get heart palpitations. > My blood pressure would also go up and my pulse rate would > increase. > I think I will need to give up on arimidex because of > this. > Unfortunately DIM causes me headaches so I dont have any > option sleft for reducing E2. > My E2 was 20pg/ml when I started but reducing from there > did improve erectile function. > I am now considering losing about 25 pounds to try and > reduce aromatization from fat. has anyone had success > with this idea? > I dont need to reduce E2 very much so I figure this may > work and have other beneficial effects as well. > > > > > > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > > > Subject: Palpitations > > > > > > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 7:32 PM > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from > > > MANY " skipped heart beats " .. Can this be Arimidex > doing this > > > to me? > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no > sugar in > > > it today. I am worried about low Potassium, cause > I know > > > it's low in RBC. > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > affect the > > > heart like this? I took one 0.25 mg on Friday > night at 11 pm > > > and one 0.25 mg on Sunday morning at 11 am. > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid > 60s, then > > > it skips, and stops and start again, really > slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 , you added too many things in too quickly. How can you help yourself to figure out what's doing what when you start new supplements and meds at the same time? I have personal experience that suggests copper causes me not only mental problems (overstimulation) but gut problems as well. However, how you can you figure if it's doing anything bad if you added it at the same time as other things? -Nigel On 21 February 2011 05:35, Gibcast <gibcast@...> wrote: > > > Well I had extra cystoles last night, quite many. Then they stopped. Maybe > it was adrenaline because I was horny or something? > > Today I have had no extra heartbeats so far. It's just over noon now. I am > trying to walk the dog out in the extreme cold. > > But I have an intense pain in my stomach, and diarrhea since breakfast and > Copper intake Copper is the only new mineral I am taking in the morning now. > I had low serum copper, and low copper makes iron absorb poorly. And my > Ferritin also declined recently, so... Does anyone here know if Arimidex (or > Copper?) can cause this horrible stomach pain? I started with these two > babies (Arimidex and Copper) 3-4 days ago. > > OTHER THAN THOSE PROBLEMS, I do feel AWAKE, and quite clear in my head, > better than in a long time, but only since starting Arimidex! I think > lowering my E2 has helped me in some ways for sure! > > " MY LAGGING VISION " which no doctor including Hertoghe knows why I get, has > disappeared since adding Arimidex to my regime. I suspected the lagging > vision (like a low frame rate when I move my head, like an old PC-game when > you had a slow CPU! LOL!) was caused from high E2 for a long time. I think I > was right. I haven't had it for 3-4 days now! And it ONLY APPEARED when I > started on TRT! So, yeah. I am not dumb. > > But maybe I don't tolerate Arimidex? So it's an impossible situation for > me? I am thinking about the heart. I already sent an email to Hertoghe about > this last night. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I just take extra hc when I feel bad he said. So I took 5 mg extra 1 hr ago. Sendt fra min iPhone Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 18.05 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: Do you know how to stress dose did your Dr. tell you how to do this. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to have heart palpitations when > my > > thyroid > > > was > > > > > > > low. When you > > > > > > > > experience palpitations, you definitely > know > > it > > > is > > > > > > > happening. For me, it > > > > > > > > would feel like my heart was beating > just > > fine, > > > then > > > > > > > all of a sudden, it > > > > > > > > would miss a beat. Then, the next beat > would > > be > > > more > > > > > > > intense than any of the > > > > > > > > previous beats. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how reliable this site > is, but > > for > > > what > > > > > > > it is worth, check > > > > > > > > this out: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/arimidex/heart+pounding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This site supposedly takes FDA reports > and > > > categorizes > > > > > > > the data. They have > > > > > > > > charts showing how long people have > been on > > > Arimidex > > > > > > > before experiencing > > > > > > > > palpitations, percentages of females > and > > males, > > > ages, > > > > > > > etc. Kind of > > > > > > > > interesting… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, the site said that there > have > > been 77 > > > > > > > reports of palpitations on > > > > > > > > Arimidex (0.77%). 96.34% of people > > reporting > > > problems > > > > > > > were female and 3.66% > > > > > > > > were male. Most of the people > experiencing > > these > > > > > > > problems were older (78.08% > > > > > > > > were age 60+). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a “way out there†> thought… > > > Decreasing > > > > > > > estradiols can increase > > > > > > > > testosterone. Increased testosterone > can > > > decrease > > > > > > > thyroid levels. How long > > > > > > > > does this take to happen? Can it > happen > > very > > > quickly > > > > > > > for some guys? Could > > > > > > > > the heart palpitations be a sign of > > decreased > > > > > > > thyroid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I don’t think it is > possible > > to > > > happen > > > > > > > that quickly, but I > > > > > > > > thought I would pose the question > anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, I have read that some women > > > experience > > > > > > > palpitations and/or > > > > > > > > racing heart beats with the onset of > > menopause. > > > > > > > Menopause can sometimes > > > > > > > > cause a somewhat sudden drop in > hormone > > levels > > > – > > > > > > > including estrogen. Maybe > > > > > > > > the guys experiencing palpitations > after > > taking > > > > > > > Arimidex are more sensitive > > > > > > > > and just need to take smaller doses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > > > > > [mailto: ] > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:15 > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: > Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel that the heart jumps and tumbles > and > > stops > > > then > > > > > > > beats again. Like > > > > > > > > it's skipping. I hear/feel every > heartbeat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't go to the ER. Have no money now! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No skipped beats for 30 Mins now. Maybe > i > > should > > > go to > > > > > > > sleep? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 02.01 skrev > <uu1845@... > > > > > > > <mailto: > > > > > > > > uu1845%40> >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , how do you medically know you > have > > heart > > > > > > > complications? If you feel > > > > > > > > that you, please cut off your PC / > Netbook / > > etc > > > and > > > > > > > go to the ER. Come on > > > > > > > > , how can we help if you are > having > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I was wise and didn't add all at once; i still havent changed HC for Prednisolone. And I am waiting with GH. I didn't Think copper, iron and Vit A could cause issues cause I have taken them all before. Arimidex on the other hand..... Sendt fra min iPhone Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 18.49 skrev Nigel <nachonigel@...>: , you added too many things in too quickly. How can you help yourself to figure out what's doing what when you start new supplements and meds at the same time? I have personal experience that suggests copper causes me not only mental problems (overstimulation) but gut problems as well. However, how you can you figure if it's doing anything bad if you added it at the same time as other things? -Nigel On 21 February 2011 05:35, Gibcast <gibcast@...> wrote: > > > Well I had extra cystoles last night, quite many. Then they stopped. Maybe > it was adrenaline because I was horny or something? > > Today I have had no extra heartbeats so far. It's just over noon now. I am > trying to walk the dog out in the extreme cold. > > But I have an intense pain in my stomach, and diarrhea since breakfast and > Copper intake Copper is the only new mineral I am taking in the morning now. > I had low serum copper, and low copper makes iron absorb poorly. And my > Ferritin also declined recently, so... Does anyone here know if Arimidex (or > Copper?) can cause this horrible stomach pain? I started with these two > babies (Arimidex and Copper) 3-4 days ago. > > OTHER THAN THOSE PROBLEMS, I do feel AWAKE, and quite clear in my head, > better than in a long time, but only since starting Arimidex! I think > lowering my E2 has helped me in some ways for sure! > > " MY LAGGING VISION " which no doctor including Hertoghe knows why I get, has > disappeared since adding Arimidex to my regime. I suspected the lagging > vision (like a low frame rate when I move my head, like an old PC-game when > you had a slow CPU! LOL!) was caused from high E2 for a long time. I think I > was right. I haven't had it for 3-4 days now! And it ONLY APPEARED when I > started on TRT! So, yeah. I am not dumb. > > But maybe I don't tolerate Arimidex? So it's an impossible situation for > me? I am thinking about the heart. I already sent an email to Hertoghe about > this last night. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 That's why i started copper cause it qas low range in serum due to zinc supp intake! Sendt fra min iPhone Den 21. feb. 2011 kl. 18.48 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: I would never take Arimidex with an Estradiol level of 20 pg/ml. You can do Zinc/Copper it will help lower estradiol levels. I feel any man doing .25 mgs of Arimidex with a starting level of 20 pg/ml is over doing it your feeling bad from driving down your Estradiol levels to low. Try taking this every 12 hrs. for a month then just once a day. Later switch to ZMA at bedtime and try 2 mgs of Copper at noon. Taking Zinc lowers Copper so you need to supplement the Zinc with Copper. We men are all low on Zinc due to the corn fed meat we eat. http://www.myvitanet.com/zincop100cnt.html Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dale <etherial@...> > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 12:30 PM > I have something to add about > Arimidex and heart Palpitations. > > Somewhere on the Internet, I cant remember where, there is > a table that shows that the older you are the more likely > arimidex will cause heart palpitations. For people > over 60 like me there is almost an 80% chance this will > happen. > I started taking Arimidix .25 Mg a couple of months ago and > found this to be too much and got heart palpitations. > I kept going too low > on E2. I must have cut the does in half 10 times and > even at very low doses I still get heart palpitations. > My blood pressure would also go up and my pulse rate would > increase. > I think I will need to give up on arimidex because of > this. > Unfortunately DIM causes me headaches so I dont have any > option sleft for reducing E2. > My E2 was 20pg/ml when I started but reducing from there > did improve erectile function. > I am now considering losing about 25 pounds to try and > reduce aromatization from fat. has anyone had success > with this idea? > I dont need to reduce E2 very much so I figure this may > work and have other beneficial effects as well. > > > > > > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > > > Subject: Palpitations > > > > > > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 7:32 PM > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from > > > MANY " skipped heart beats " .. Can this be Arimidex > doing this > > > to me? > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no > sugar in > > > it today. I am worried about low Potassium, cause > I know > > > it's low in RBC. > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > affect the > > > heart like this? I took one 0.25 mg on Friday > night at 11 pm > > > and one 0.25 mg on Sunday morning at 11 am. > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid > 60s, then > > > it skips, and stops and start again, really > slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hi Phil. I only started at .25mg At the end I had it down to about .008mg by grinding up the pill and suspending it in alcohol. I had some success with this very tiny dose but I would agree that Arimidex is too powerful for 20PG/ml. I have tried 100mg zinc per day for many months without any success. I am not taking any zinc right now. If I try it again I will include the copper. > > > > > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@> > > > > Subject: Palpitations > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 7:32 PM > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from > > > > MANY " skipped heart beats " .. Can this be Arimidex > > doing this > > > > to me? > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut butter with no > > sugar in > > > > it today. I am worried about low Potassium, cause > > I know > > > > it's low in RBC. > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? Can it > > affect the > > > > heart like this? I took one 0.25 mg on Friday > > night at 11 pm > > > > and one 0.25 mg on Sunday morning at 11 am. > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, maybe mid > > 60s, then > > > > it skips, and stops and start again, really > > slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 OK I don't feel you needed it in the first place. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dale <etherial@...> > Subject: Re: Palpitations > > Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 5:34 PM > Hi Phil. > I only started at .25mg > At the end I had it down to about .008mg by grinding up the > pill and suspending it in alcohol. I had some success with > this very tiny dose but I would agree that Arimidex is too > powerful for 20PG/ml. > I have tried 100mg zinc per day for many months without any > success. > I am not taking any zinc right now. If I try it again > I will include the copper. > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@> > > > > > Subject: Palpitations > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 7:32 > PM > > > > > It's 1:30 am and I am suffering from > > > > > MANY " skipped heart beats " .. Can this > be Arimidex > > > doing this > > > > > to me? > > > > > > > > > > I have had soy yoghurt and peanut > butter with no > > > sugar in > > > > > it today. I am worried about low > Potassium, cause > > > I know > > > > > it's low in RBC. > > > > > > > > > > :\ > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am taking too much Arimidex? > Can it > > > affect the > > > > > heart like this? I took one 0.25 mg on > Friday > > > night at 11 pm > > > > > and one 0.25 mg on Sunday morning at 11 > am. > > > > > > > > > > It feels like the puls is a bit slow, > maybe mid > > > 60s, then > > > > > it skips, and stops and start again, > really > > > slowly.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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