Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yes keep us posted when you figure this out for me it's high levels of Estradiol or bring it down to low that dose this to me. In your case if you were taking something to being down Estradiol levels and this pill made your Estradiol levels come back up then your ED would stop. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > Subject: Real bad ED > > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 2:06 PM > Saturday night I had a bad case of > it, take my word for it. I had taken the little orange pill > 7 hours prior. Then I remembered that I had a sublingual tab > from a compounding pharmacy from when I went to the > Charlotte mens clinic. They are soft and square and taste > minty. They told me that it had testosterone and viagra > mixed. Wow, within a half hour, I felt totally different. No > ED issues afterward. I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So > what this really means, I am not sure. I can't wait to get > labs done, but my appointment is at the end of September, so > I just have to wait. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I never thought of that!!! I did take an 1/4mg of arimidex the day before. But Phil, can the conversion to E2 happen that quickly? I think that I am going to stop taking arimidex and just take DIM. Arimidex is just too strong. > > > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > > Subject: Real bad ED > > > > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 2:06 PM > > Saturday night I had a bad case of > > it, take my word for it. I had taken the little orange pill > > 7 hours prior. Then I remembered that I had a sublingual tab > > from a compounding pharmacy from when I went to the > > Charlotte mens clinic. They are soft and square and taste > > minty. They told me that it had testosterone and viagra > > mixed. Wow, within a half hour, I felt totally different. No > > ED issues afterward. I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So > > what this really means, I am not sure. I can't wait to get > > labs done, but my appointment is at the end of September, so > > I just have to wait. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yes in some men it's fast and after your on Arimidex 5 weeks it works very fast. If my levels get to high and I feel panic coming on I will feel better in 30 min's after taking some extra Arimidex. When my levels are to high I get weaker wood going to low it's dead killed very fast like some one turned it off. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > Subject: Re: Real bad ED > > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 3:06 PM > I never thought of that!!! I did take > an 1/4mg of arimidex the day before. But Phil, can the > conversion to E2 happen that quickly? I think that I am > going to stop taking arimidex and just take DIM. Arimidex is > just too strong. > > > > > > > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > > > Subject: Real bad ED > > > > > > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 2:06 PM > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of > > > it, take my word for it. I had taken the little > orange pill > > > 7 hours prior. Then I remembered that I had a > sublingual tab > > > from a compounding pharmacy from when I went to > the > > > Charlotte mens clinic. They are soft and square > and taste > > > minty. They told me that it had testosterone and > viagra > > > mixed. Wow, within a half hour, I felt totally > different. No > > > ED issues afterward. I know my E2 must have been > ok, no? So > > > what this really means, I am not sure. I can't > wait to get > > > labs done, but my appointment is at the end of > September, so > > > I just have to wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 So if I understand you correctly, you're saying the the testosterone in this pill could have converted into E2, raising my E2 to the sweet spot? So I was probably low then, because it was dead. But I am telling you, it took at the most a half hour for it to change. I did not know it happens this quickly! Thanks. > > > > > > > From: ed <edhill_2006@> > > > > Subject: Real bad ED > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 2:06 PM > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of > > > > it, take my word for it. I had taken the little > > orange pill > > > > 7 hours prior. Then I remembered that I had a > > sublingual tab > > > > from a compounding pharmacy from when I went to > > the > > > > Charlotte mens clinic. They are soft and square > > and taste > > > > minty. They told me that it had testosterone and > > viagra > > > > mixed. Wow, within a half hour, I felt totally > > different. No > > > > ED issues afterward. I know my E2 must have been > > ok, no? So > > > > what this really means, I am not sure. I can't > > wait to get > > > > labs done, but my appointment is at the end of > > September, so > > > > I just have to wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yes in men like myself it's very fast I can do an HCG shot and feel my levels going up. Or I can take Arimidex and feel it going low then after doing a T shot feel it come back up strange I know but Estradiol moves fast in some men. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > Subject: Re: Real bad ED > > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 4:38 PM > > So if I understand you correctly, you're saying the the > testosterone in this pill could have converted into E2, > raising my E2 to the sweet spot? So I was probably low then, > because it was dead. But I am telling you, it took at the > most a half hour for it to change. I did not know it happens > this quickly! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ed <edhill_2006@> > > > > > Subject: Real bad ED > > > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 2:06 PM > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of > > > > > it, take my word for it. I had taken > the little > > > orange pill > > > > > 7 hours prior. Then I remembered that I > had a > > > sublingual tab > > > > > from a compounding pharmacy from when I > went to > > > the > > > > > Charlotte mens clinic. They are soft > and square > > > and taste > > > > > minty. They told me that it had > testosterone and > > > viagra > > > > > mixed. Wow, within a half hour, I felt > totally > > > different. No > > > > > ED issues afterward. I know my E2 must > have been > > > ok, no? So > > > > > what this really means, I am not sure. > I can't > > > wait to get > > > > > labs done, but my appointment is at the > end of > > > September, so > > > > > I just have to wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I'm curious about what's in your sublingual tab from the compounding pharmacy. Testosterone is not absorbed very well sublingual, else most all of us would all be on it rather than gels or shots. Sublingual viagra is absorbed quickly and can produce results within 30 min. > > Saturday night I had a bad case of it, take my word for it. I had taken the little orange pill 7 hours prior. Then I remembered that I had a sublingual tab from a compounding pharmacy from when I went to the Charlotte mens clinic. They are soft and square and taste minty. They told me that it had testosterone and viagra mixed. Wow, within a half hour, I felt totally different. No ED issues afterward. I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So what this really means, I am not sure. I can't wait to get labs done, but my appointment is at the end of September, so I just have to wait. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Dr. sells fast acting tabs you put under your tongue. But they are not good for TRT. Co-Moderator Phil > From: mqsymth <alphadennis@...> > Subject: Re: Real bad ED > > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 2:57 PM > I'm curious about what's in your > sublingual tab from the compounding pharmacy. > Testosterone is not absorbed very well sublingual, else most > all of us would all be on it rather than gels or > shots. Sublingual viagra is absorbed quickly and can > produce results within 30 min. > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of it, take my word > for it. I had taken the little orange pill 7 hours prior. > Then I remembered that I had a sublingual tab from a > compounding pharmacy from when I went to the Charlotte mens > clinic. They are soft and square and taste minty. They told > me that it had testosterone and viagra mixed. Wow, within a > half hour, I felt totally different. No ED issues afterward. > I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So what this really > means, I am not sure. I can't wait to get labs done, but my > appointment is at the end of September, so I just have to > wait. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I tried sublingual tabs ( 15 mg each from GBTRX.com) but you need to do 3 a day which is very cumbersome. I had them around to use an hour before sex but not sure if I felt any hornier. Sent via Blackberry Re: Real bad ED > > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 2:57 PM > I'm curious about what's in your > sublingual tab from the compounding pharmacy. > Testosterone is not absorbed very well sublingual, else most > all of us would all be on it rather than gels or > shots. Sublingual viagra is absorbed quickly and can > produce results within 30 min. > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of it, take my word > for it. I had taken the little orange pill 7 hours prior. > Then I remembered that I had a sublingual tab from a > compounding pharmacy from when I went to the Charlotte mens > clinic. They are soft and square and taste minty. They told > me that it had testosterone and viagra mixed. Wow, within a > half hour, I felt totally different. No ED issues afterward. > I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So what this really > means, I am not sure. I can't wait to get labs done, but my > appointment is at the end of September, so I just have to > wait. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Dr. 's men use them like that. I think he calls them torches. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: mqsymth <alphadennis@...> > > Subject: Re: Real bad ED > > > > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 2:57 PM > > I'm curious about what's in your > > sublingual tab from the compounding pharmacy. > > Testosterone is not absorbed very well sublingual, > else most > > all of us would all be on it rather than gels or > > shots. Sublingual viagra is absorbed quickly and > can > > produce results within 30 min. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of it, take my > word > > for it. I had taken the little orange pill 7 hours > prior. > > Then I remembered that I had a sublingual tab from a > > compounding pharmacy from when I went to the Charlotte > mens > > clinic. They are soft and square and taste minty. They > told > > me that it had testosterone and viagra mixed. Wow, > within a > > half hour, I felt totally different. No ED issues > afterward. > > I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So what this > really > > means, I am not sure. I can't wait to get labs done, > but my > > appointment is at the end of September, so I just have > to > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 No these are specially formulated from a compounding lab, that is a combination of Testosterone and Viagra. It comes in the soft green rectangle package. > > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of it, take my > > word > > > for it. I had taken the little orange pill 7 hours > > prior. > > > Then I remembered that I had a sublingual tab from a > > > compounding pharmacy from when I went to the Charlotte > > mens > > > clinic. They are soft and square and taste minty. They > > told > > > me that it had testosterone and viagra mixed. Wow, > > within a > > > half hour, I felt totally different. No ED issues > > afterward. > > > I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So what this > > really > > > means, I am not sure. I can't wait to get labs done, > > but my > > > appointment is at the end of September, so I just have > > to > > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Oh no, these things have 75mg of Viagra in em. > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of it, take my > > > word > > > > for it. I had taken the little orange pill 7 hours > > > prior. > > > > Then I remembered that I had a sublingual tab from a > > > > compounding pharmacy from when I went to the Charlotte > > > mens > > > > clinic. They are soft and square and taste minty. They > > > told > > > > me that it had testosterone and viagra mixed. Wow, > > > within a > > > > half hour, I felt totally different. No ED issues > > > afterward. > > > > I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So what this > > > really > > > > means, I am not sure. I can't wait to get labs done, > > > but my > > > > appointment is at the end of September, so I just have > > > to > > > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I don't like Viagra makes me so dam sick I don't feel like anything let alone sex. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > Subject: Re: Real bad ED > > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 6:00 PM > > Oh no, these things have 75mg of Viagra in em. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of > it, take my > > > > word > > > > > for it. I had taken the little orange > pill 7 hours > > > > prior. > > > > > Then I remembered that I had a > sublingual tab from a > > > > > compounding pharmacy from when I went > to the Charlotte > > > > mens > > > > > clinic. They are soft and square and > taste minty. They > > > > told > > > > > me that it had testosterone and viagra > mixed. Wow, > > > > within a > > > > > half hour, I felt totally different. No > ED issues > > > > afterward. > > > > > I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So > what this > > > > really > > > > > means, I am not sure. I can't wait to > get labs done, > > > > but my > > > > > appointment is at the end of September, > so I just have > > > > to > > > > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 The only way I can take Cialis or Viagra is to take them with claritin, advil and calcium chewables. I get headaches, sinus cngestion and heartburn. Nothing works like good ol' TRIMIX with a healthy level of testosterone. Sent via Blackberry Re: Real bad ED > > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 6:00 PM > > Oh no, these things have 75mg of Viagra in em. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad case of > it, take my > > > > word > > > > > for it. I had taken the little orange > pill 7 hours > > > > prior. > > > > > Then I remembered that I had a > sublingual tab from a > > > > > compounding pharmacy from when I went > to the Charlotte > > > > mens > > > > > clinic. They are soft and square and > taste minty. They > > > > told > > > > > me that it had testosterone and viagra > mixed. Wow, > > > > within a > > > > > half hour, I felt totally different. No > ED issues > > > > afterward. > > > > > I know my E2 must have been ok, no? So > what this > > > > really > > > > > means, I am not sure. I can't wait to > get labs done, > > > > but my > > > > > appointment is at the end of September, > so I just have > > > > to > > > > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 well Cialis taking 20 mgs every 3 days after about a week and a half you don't feel any sides and you don't need to wait for a pill to work. Also helps keep ones BP down. I am on 5mgs / day for my heart needed to have my Dr. call MedCo to get it covered. Sunday I stopped taking it to see if my back and hip pain stops so far still have it. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > > Subject: Re: Real bad ED > > > > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 6:00 PM > > > > Oh no, these things have 75mg of Viagra in em. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad > case of > > it, take my > > > > > word > > > > > > for it. I had taken the little > orange > > pill 7 hours > > > > > prior. > > > > > > Then I remembered that I had a > > sublingual tab from a > > > > > > compounding pharmacy from when I > went > > to the Charlotte > > > > > mens > > > > > > clinic. They are soft and square > and > > taste minty. They > > > > > told > > > > > > me that it had testosterone and > viagra > > mixed. Wow, > > > > > within a > > > > > > half hour, I felt totally > different. No > > ED issues > > > > > afterward. > > > > > > I know my E2 must have been ok, > no? So > > what this > > > > > really > > > > > > means, I am not sure. I can't wait > to > > get labs done, > > > > > but my > > > > > > appointment is at the end of > September, > > so I just have > > > > > to > > > > > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Phil, You mention that taking Cialis on a regular basis can lower your blood pressure. How much of a difference do you see? From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of philip georgian Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: Real bad ED well Cialis taking 20 mgs every 3 days after about a week and a half you don't feel any sides and you don't need to wait for a pill to work. Also helps keep ones BP down. I am on 5mgs / day for my heart needed to have my Dr. call MedCo to get it covered. Sunday I stopped taking it to see if my back and hip pain stops so far still have it. Co-Moderator Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 For me it's a big difference on the bottom number I go down from 90 to mid 70's. Co-Moderator Phil > From: <hostmaster@...> > Subject: RE: Re: Real bad ED > > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 1:42 PM > Phil, > > > > You mention that taking Cialis on a regular basis can lower > your blood > pressure. How much of a difference do you see? > > > > > > > > From: > [mailto: ] > On Behalf Of philip georgian > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:46 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: Real bad ED > > > > > > well Cialis taking 20 mgs every 3 days after about a week > and a half you > don't feel any sides and you don't need to wait for a pill > to work. Also > helps keep ones BP down. I am on 5mgs / day for my heart > needed to have my > Dr. call MedCo to get it covered. > > Sunday I stopped taking it to see if my back and hip pain > stops so far still > have it. > Co-Moderator > Phil > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Hey Phil I get the same sides as except I don't get heartburn. So you're saying that headaches and stuffyness normally go away with consistant use? Do you know how long this normally takes? Would be great to always be ready for battle and get blood pressure benefits to boot! Haha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad > > case of > > > it, take my > > > > > > word > > > > > > > for it. I had taken the little > > orange > > > pill 7 hours > > > > > > prior. > > > > > > > Then I remembered that I had a > > > sublingual tab from a > > > > > > > compounding pharmacy from when I > > went > > > to the Charlotte > > > > > > mens > > > > > > > clinic. They are soft and square > > and > > > taste minty. They > > > > > > told > > > > > > > me that it had testosterone and > > viagra > > > mixed. Wow, > > > > > > within a > > > > > > > half hour, I felt totally > > different. No > > > ED issues > > > > > > afterward. > > > > > > > I know my E2 must have been ok, > > no? So > > > what this > > > > > > really > > > > > > > means, I am not sure. I can't wait > > to > > > get labs done, > > > > > > but my > > > > > > > appointment is at the end of > > September, > > > so I just have > > > > > > to > > > > > > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 From a week to a week and a half. Co-Moderator Phil > From: forced2fish <ruca4life@...> > Subject: Re: Real bad ED > > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 2:43 PM > > Hey Phil I get the same sides as except I don't get > heartburn. So you're saying that headaches and stuffyness > normally go away with consistant use? Do you know how long > this normally takes? Would be great to always be ready for > battle and get blood pressure benefits to boot! Haha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I > had a bad > > > case of > > > > it, take my > > > > > > > word > > > > > > > > for it. I had taken the > little > > > orange > > > > pill 7 hours > > > > > > > prior. > > > > > > > > Then I remembered that I > had a > > > > sublingual tab from a > > > > > > > > compounding pharmacy > from when I > > > went > > > > to the Charlotte > > > > > > > mens > > > > > > > > clinic. They are soft > and square > > > and > > > > taste minty. They > > > > > > > told > > > > > > > > me that it had > testosterone and > > > viagra > > > > mixed. Wow, > > > > > > > within a > > > > > > > > half hour, I felt > totally > > > different. No > > > > ED issues > > > > > > > afterward. > > > > > > > > I know my E2 must have > been ok, > > > no? So > > > > what this > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > means, I am not sure. I > can't wait > > > to > > > > get labs done, > > > > > > > but my > > > > > > > > appointment is at the > end of > > > September, > > > > so I just have > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I have tried Cialis 20 mg as needed and also have tried daily use with 5 and 10 mg ( There is a coupon for a free one month supply for daily use here with a prescription from your doctor : http://voucher.cialis.com/index.cfm . Get the 10 mg per day option). The daily use of 5 mg did not work, 10 mg per day was good and lower side effects. But most insurance companies do not pay for either " as needed " or daily use. I bought mine cheap at 4rx.com (but they take forever to ship, so pay the extra amount to send it faster). The stuffiness and back problems persist even with 10 mg per day, though. So, I currently take Cialis only when needed, with Claritin, Advil, and Prilosec to cover all my side effects. I know, a total 4 pills to get a good erection for the next three days! But it is worth it to me specially when I can get the " bang for my buck " for three days. For sex that will only happen once in a while, I use Levitra instead. The folks from that web site can send you a " sampler " of Viagra, Levitra and Cialis for your own mini study. They only take Visa (no prescription required). There are a bunch of other websites, but that is the only one I have dealt with since some of the guys in my group seemed to like it. I was always afraid to get fakes or never get the shipment with those internet companies! Regards, ________________________________ From: forced2fish <ruca4life@...> Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 11:43:20 AM Subject: Re: Real bad ED Hey Phil I get the same sides as except I don't get heartburn. So you're saying that headaches and stuffyness normally go away with consistant use? Do you know how long this normally takes? Would be great to always be ready for battle and get blood pressure benefits to boot! Haha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday night I had a bad > > case of > > > it, take my > > > > > > word > > > > > > > for it. I had taken the little > > orange > > > pill 7 hours > > > > > > prior. > > > > > > > Then I remembered that I had a > > > sublingual tab from a > > > > > > > compounding pharmacy from when I > > went > > > to the Charlotte > > > > > > mens > > > > > > > clinic. They are soft and square > > and > > > taste minty. They > > > > > > told > > > > > > > me that it had testosterone and > > viagra > > > mixed. Wow, > > > > > > within a > > > > > > > half hour, I felt totally > > different. No > > > ED issues > > > > > > afterward. > > > > > > > I know my E2 must have been ok, > > no? So > > > what this > > > > > > really > > > > > > > means, I am not sure. I can't wait > > to > > > get labs done, > > > > > > but my > > > > > > > appointment is at the end of > > September, > > > so I just have > > > > > > to > > > > > > > wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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