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I have been living with 500 and below calories since March with a few breaks.

Not hard to do and exercise is the key. I had to mentally prepare much like

penis enlargement. I eat low fat lipton soup with crackers and granted low fat

cheese in the morning and snack at certain times very low fat fig newtons or

chips with a coffee or just coffee throughout. Weight loss is how bad you want

it. I feel bad I can't treadmill now but I have to get healthier first, so I do

what I can to lightly exercise. I dated a bbw woman recently and she made fun of

my diet. She believed she couldn't lose weight period through eating once a

day,etc. I learned I want a slim woman who takes care of herself and if she is

curvy believe she can lose weight with me as support.

Re: HCG Diet - Scam?

Will the doctor be providing a prescription for the hcg?

> >

> > The hcg diet is CRAP and a scam - you lose weight because the diet is ultra

low in calories - 500 or so per day - don't waste your money

> >

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Here is a link to his book you can read about it free.

http://4hcgsuccess.com/hcg-protocol

The only scam I know off it buying HCG pills.

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Phil

> From: k0cm <Randy@...>

> Subject: Re: HCG Diet - Scam?

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 9:19 PM

> Scam?   I don't think

> so.

>

> The orignal work on this was the book " Pounds and Inches "

> by Dr. A.T.W. Simeons.  A google search will lead you

> to a free copy on the internet.   He died in

> 1970. Surely you aren't suggesting that a dead man is

> scamming people today.

>

> Dr Simeons HCG diet has been in use since the early 1950's

> and has been proven time and time again. Yes, it has very

> strict requirements and they are carefully delineated in his

> book.

>

> It's not easy, and if you have any variances from the

> prescribed diet, you have to correct them immediately, as

> instructed by Dr. Simeons.

>

> No, you can't take HCG and do nothing else and expect

> results.  HCG, taken properly will allow you to live on

> 500 calories per day and you will lose weight.

>

> Read the book, follow the program, and you will lose

> weight.

>

> Randy Hoops

> Springfield, MO

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi Phil,

> > >

> > > I am going to start on the HCG diet this next

> week.  I know that the HCG helps men with their

> conversion to testosterone, but does HCG have the same

> effect in women?  Mr Dr. seemed to think that this did

> not apply to females but honestly said he was not

> sure.  Do you know?? 

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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There are tons of Dr. giving people the HCG diet this is why men on TRT can find

it is all ways on back order.

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Phil

> From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

> Subject: Re: HCG Diet - Scam?

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 9:40 PM

> Will the doctor be providing a

> prescription for the hcg?

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi Phil,

> > > >

> > > > I am going to start on the HCG diet this

> next week.  I know that the HCG helps men with their

> conversion to testosterone, but does HCG have the same

> effect in women?  Mr Dr. seemed to think that this did

> not apply to females but honestly said he was not

> sure.  Do you know?? 

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

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All I can say is don't try it then. My Heart Dr. knows about it and puts some

of his people on it that need to lose weight due to there bad heart. I can't

try this he feels it would be to hard on my heart.

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Phil

> From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

> Subject: Re: HCG Diet - Scam?

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 10:06 PM

> http://www.physiciansplan.net/blog/?p=13

>

> Then there is this Pub Med study

>

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1365103/pdf/brjclinpharm00004-0042.p\

df

>

> The effect of human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) in the

> treatment of obesity by means of the Simeons therapy: a

> criteria-based meta-analysis.

>

> We conclude that there is no scientific evidence that HCG

> is effective in the treatment of obesity; it does not bring

> about weight-loss of fat-redistribution, nor does it reduce

> hunger or induce a feeling of well-being.

>

> Therefore, the use of HCG should be regarded as an

> inappropriate therapy for weight reduction, particularly

> because HCG is obtained from the urine of pregnant women who

> donate their urine idealistically in the belief that it will

> be used to treat an entirely different

> condition, namely infertility. Pharmacists and physicians

> should be alert on the use of HCG for Simeons therapy. The

> results of this

> meta-analysis supports a firm standpoint against this

> improper indication. Restraints on physicians practising

> this therapy can be based on our findings.

>

>

http://scienceblogs.com/obesitypanacea/2010/03/human_chorionic_gonadotropin_h.ph\

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>

> Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for Fat Loss: " Fallacy

> and Hazard "

>

> For example, a 1976 paper in the Journal of the American

> Medical Association performed a rigorously controlled,

> double-blind crossover study examining the effects of HCG on

> weight loss in obese individuals undergoing very low calorie

> diets. In a double-blind study, neither the patient, nor the

> physician, knows whether the patient is receiving HCG or a

> placebo. What were their results? Both groups lost a

> significant amount of weight (not surprising given subjects

> were only consuming 500 kcal/day), however there was no

> difference in weight loss between the HCG and placebo

> treatments.

>

> An editorial by Ballin and Philp White in the Journal

> of the American Medical Assocation titled " Fallacy and

> Hazard " claims that " no rational basis exists for [HCG] use

> in weight reduction, except as placebo " . Further " Weight

> loss under the Simeons regimen can be attributed solely to

> the semistarvation diet that is required " , a diet which is

> so restricted as to raise safety concerns. Finally, they

> claim that way that Simeons weight clinics are run " pose

> serious questions for physicians who participate in them " .

>

> http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/137/2/151

>

> Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) Treatment of Obesity

>

> These results indicate that HCG has no effects on chemical

> and hormonal parameters measured and offers no advantage

> over calorie restriction in promoting weight loss.

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi Phil,

> > > >

> > > > I am going to start on the HCG diet this

> next week.  I know that the HCG helps men with their

> conversion to testosterone, but does HCG have the same

> effect in women?  Mr Dr. seemed to think that this did

> not apply to females but honestly said he was not

> sure.  Do you know?? 

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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