Estrogen dominance and depression

[Guest guest]

Hey Group,

I've been on testosterone for about 4 months now and I felt really good when

I first got on it, but recently I've been getting very depressed. I

recently had my estrogen/estradiol/estrone levels checked and they are very

high. I'm wondering if the estrogen dominance is causing my depression. Can

it cancel out any benefits of the testosterone? I'm currently on DIM, but I

don't think it is strong enough to make any impact on my estrogen levels.

Thanks for any info provided.

Regards,

--

Mike

[Guest guest]

Mike next time post your labs with the units and ranges this helps. Yes this is

why you feel like this in most men we get all kinds of crap going on with high

levels of Estradiol. You can't get high levels of Estradiol down fast when they

are over 50 pg/ml for Estraiol using DIM it will take a dam long time. If I

were you I would get some Arimidex and if your levels are over 50 take a .5 mgs

or half a 1mg. pill ever other day. As your levels come down you will feel

better and get some night time and morning wood back this means your hitting the

sweet spot for your best levels. Read this Cut and Paste from a file I made

some men go to low on Arimidex after a time and do better once there levels are

down by going back on DIM and stoping the Arimidex.

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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

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Or once your levels are down do this with your Arimidex and take it everyday.

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Most compounding pharmacies will require a prescription from a doctor, before

they do this.

Once your prescription says " 300 caps x 0.1mg " or " 600 caps x 0.05mg "

anastrozole " from 1 to 4 daily " , (anastrozole = generic arimidex) then they will

compound your arimidex, or generic anastrozole, and they will usually supply the

arimidex as compounded into the caps you require.

My compounding pharmacist was prepared to allow me to supply the arimidex too.

If you have several boxes of arimidex in your cupboard, then you may want to ask

your pharmacist to do this for you.

If you don't have any arimidex stores, then just let the compounding pharmacy

supply the whole lot.

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A pack of 30 tabs of 1.0mg arimidex will give 300 caps at 0.1mg-per-cap, or 600

caps at 0.05mg-per-cap.

So if your pharmacy chooses to supply arimidex as opposed to generic

anastrozole, then your pharmacy will most likely not agree to only charge you

for a half-a-box of arimidex, and most likely they'll charge for a whole box,

even if your prescription says 300 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap (total of 15mg).

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> Subject: Estrogen dominance and depression

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 4:59 AM

> Hey Group,

>

> I've been on testosterone for about 4 months now and I felt

> really good when

> I first got on it, but recently I've been getting very

> depressed.   I

> recently had my estrogen/estradiol/estrone levels checked

> and they are very

> high. I'm wondering if the estrogen dominance is causing my

> depression.  Can

> it cancel out any benefits of the testosterone?  I'm

> currently on DIM, but I

> don't think it is strong enough to make any impact on my

> estrogen levels.

>

> Thanks for any info provided.

>

> Regards,

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike, I am not sure if anyone else has answered your post. Anyway I think

your high estradiol could very well be causing or at least adding to your

depressed feeling. I am sure it was with me. Now that I am keeping it down

it has made a considerable difference. When my E2 is up I start feeling a

lot more emotional over everything happy or sad. Told my wife now I

understand what PMS is all about.

You didn't say what your TRT labs were running but it is entirely possible

that you may need to increase your T dose to get the same results that you

were in the beginning. That is something you should take up with your

doctor. Brett

Estrogen dominance and depression

> Hey Group,

>

> I've been on testosterone for about 4 months now and I felt really good

> when

> I first got on it, but recently I've been getting very depressed. I

> recently had my estrogen/estradiol/estrone levels checked and they are

> very

> high. I'm wondering if the estrogen dominance is causing my depression.

> Can

> it cancel out any benefits of the testosterone? I'm currently on DIM, but

> I

> don't think it is strong enough to make any impact on my estrogen levels.

>

> Thanks for any info provided.

> Regards

> Mike

[Guest guest]

How much testosterone are you on? What I did was lower my dose and I started

feeling better. You might be on too much testosterone. If your body cant handle

too much it converts to e2.

>

> Hey Group,

>

> I've been on testosterone for about 4 months now and I felt really good when

> I first got on it, but recently I've been getting very depressed. I

> recently had my estrogen/estradiol/estrone levels checked and they are very

> high. I'm wondering if the estrogen dominance is causing my depression. Can

> it cancel out any benefits of the testosterone? I'm currently on DIM, but I

> don't think it is strong enough to make any impact on my estrogen levels.

>

> Thanks for any info provided.

>

> Regards,

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>