Re: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I don't agree.   I've done this diet before and lost over

25lbs. within the 40 day period in May of 2010.   I felt great and my skin

stayed tight, not lose from the rapid weight loss.  It targets the fat.   It

has not been until recent that my Dr. and I felt that my T was converting to

E.   We are working on this hormone balance at present and feel that this is

why I have gained some of the weight back again.   I have also tried a very

low calorie diet in the past and was NOT able to lose.  With the HCG I am able

to lose and maintain.   It works for me.

From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

Subject: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 7:22 PM

 

The hcg diet is CRAP and a scam - you lose weight because the diet is ultra low

in calories - 500 or so per day - don't waste your money

>

> Hi Phil,

>

> I am going to start on the HCG diet this next week. I know that the HCG helps

men with their conversion to testosterone, but does HCG have the same effect in

women? Mr Dr. seemed to think that this did not apply to females but honestly

said he was not sure. Do you know??

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, and I only had a question for Phil.   Sorry if you don't agree with me

taking HCG but my question was regarding the effect of the HCG on the

testosterone that I am currently injecting.   I need to know the female

effects of the HCG on my testostereone supplementation.   I like the diet and

it has proven very effective for me.  

 

From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

Subject: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 9:23 PM

 

I assume you injected 125iu's of hcg sub q every day?

> >

> > Hi Phil,

> >

> > I am going to start on the HCG diet this next week. I know that the HCG

helps men with their conversion to testosterone, but does HCG have the same

effect in women? Mr Dr. seemed to think that this did not apply to females but

honestly said he was not sure. Do you know??

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why would a woman take HCG?

Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 9:23 PM

 

I assume you injected 125iu's of hcg sub q every day?

>

> Sorry, I don't agree.   I've done this diet before and lost over

25lbs. within the 40 day period in May of 2010.   I felt great

and my skin stayed tight, not lose from the rapid weight loss.  It targets

the fat.   It has not been until recent that my Dr. and I felt that my T

was converting to E.   We are work

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[Guest guest]

So HCG can help a woman get pregnant, but not helpful for a man who is primary

to stimulate his testicles to produce more sperm... That sucks

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[Guest guest]

Why do you say this did you try it read my reply to . Guys went on this

Diet at Dr. s forum they were all ready on HCG and read about it and tried

it some lost 80 lbs. on it never hungry.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

> Subject: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 8:22 PM

> The hcg diet is CRAP and a scam - you

> lose weight because the diet is ultra low in calories - 500

> or so per day - don't waste your money

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Phil,

> >

> > I am going to start on the HCG diet this next

> week.  I know that the HCG helps men with their

> conversion to testosterone, but does HCG have the same

> effect in women?  Mr Dr. seemed to think that this did

> not apply to females but honestly said he was not

> sure.  Do you know?? 

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is too much HCG unhealthy? If you are receiveing hcg from a dr., why take more

of it if this " diet " also provides hcg?

Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 8:22 PM

> The hcg diet is CRAP and a scam - you

> lose weight because the diet is ultra low in calories - 500

> or so per day - don't waste your money

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Phil,

> >

> > I am going to start on the HCG diet this next

> week.  I know that the HCG helps men with their

> conversion to testosterone, but does HCG have the same

> effect in women?  Mr Dr. seemed to think that this did

> not apply to females but honestly said he was not

> sure.  Do you know?? 

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I am on a low cal. diet it took me 4 months to lose 30 lbs. Not fun.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

>

> From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

> Subject: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for

> females

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 7:22 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> The hcg diet is CRAP and a scam - you lose weight because

> the diet is ultra low in calories - 500 or so per day -

> don't waste your money

>

>

> >

> > Hi Phil,

> >

> > I am going to start on the HCG diet this next week. I

> know that the HCG helps men with their conversion to

> testosterone, but does HCG have the same effect in women? Mr

> Dr. seemed to think that this did not apply to females but

> honestly said he was not sure. Do you know??

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin

HCG can help to increase an infertile woman's chances of becoming pregnant, and

it can help women suffering from irregular menstrual cycles

Read more: What Are the Benefits of HCG Injections? | eHow.com

http://www.ehow.com/about_5185617_benefits-hcg-injections_.html#ixzz1B7YBTMNN

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

> Subject: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for

> females

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 9:23 PM

>

>  

>

> I assume you injected 125iu's of hcg sub q every day?

>

>

> >

> > Sorry, I don't agree.   I've done this diet

> before and lost over 25lbs. within the 40 day period in

> May of 2010.   I felt great and my skin stayed

> tight, not lose from the rapid weight loss.  It targets

> the fat.   It has not been until recent that my Dr.

> and I felt that my T was converting to E.   We are

> work

>

> [The entire original message is not included]

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well if a man is Primary HCG will still keep his testis working the best they

can. Most Primary men not yet on TRT have a level of T some low very low others

higher say 300 so if you add in HCG your going to make as much as your testis

did before you went on TRT.

Here is a copy of a post to me from Dr. to help me get my Dr. to let me try

HCG. Going on HCG we were able to figure out I was on Primary but I am

Secondary.

====================================================

He probably feels that since you suffer primary hypogonadism (I am guessing)

there is no use in adding HCG to your protocol. There are several reasons why

this is not so. First, you have not lost all Leydig cells, so any HCG you take

will stimulate those who still function to produce endogenous testosterone.

This will support testicular size. We should not ignore this aesthetic

consideration.

Next, if he reads my work, he will learn that HPTA-suppressed (as all TRT

patients are to some extent) also suffer decreased pregenenolone levels, which

is the first step after CHOL in all three hormonal pathways which begin with

CHOL. HCG increases pregnenolone production, and therefore restores a more

natural balance of our hormones.

Next, nearly all TRT patients who add in HCG to their regimens report an

increased sense of well-being and also libido. These are genuine quality of life

issues.

Finally, I just instinctively do not want all those LH receptors (including

those we have yet to discover and appreciate) unstimulated.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: uu1845@... <uu1845@...>

> Subject: RE: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

>

> Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 11:36 PM

> So HCG can help a woman get pregnant,

> but not helpful for a man who is primary to stimulate his

> testicles to produce more sperm... That sucks

>

> Re: H

>

> [The entire original message is not included]

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good info, however if it can increase testicle size, I didn't read whether that

would mean testicles can produce more sperm given the testes have more room. I

am more focused on sperm and size. Being primary, I guess I have ruled out

feeling a better sense of well-being and for the first time in life, it would be

a great thing to see my testes fuller. Good info

RE: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

Well if a man is Primary HCG will still keep his testis working the best they

can. Most Primary men not yet on TRT have a level of T some low very low others

higher say 300 so if you add in HCG your going to make as much as your testis

did before you went on TRT.

Here is a copy of a post to me from Dr. to help me get my Dr. to let me

try HCG. Going on HCG we were able to figure out I was on Primary but I am

Secondary.

====================================================

He probably feels that since you suffer primary hypogonadism (I am guessing)

there is no use in adding HCG to your protocol. There are several reasons why

this is not so. First, you have not lost all Leydig cells, so any HCG you take

will stimulate those who still function to produce endogenous testosterone.

This will support testicular size. We should not ignore this aesthetic

consideration.

Next, if he reads my work, he will learn that HPTA-suppressed (as all TRT

patients are to some extent) also suffer decreased pregenenolone levels, which

is the first step after CHOL in all three hormonal pathways which begin with

CHOL. HCG increases pregnenolone production, and therefore restores a more

natural balance of our hormones.

Next, nearly all TRT patients who add in HCG to their regimens report an

increased sense of well-being and also libido. These are genuine quality of

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[Guest guest]

Yes to much HCG for TRT can make your testis work to hard and convert into

Estradoil. But taking the HCG doing the diet I think it gets used up very fast.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

> > Subject: Re: HCG effect on

> Testosterone for females

> >

> > Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 8:22 PM

> > The hcg diet is CRAP and a scam - you

> > lose weight because the diet is ultra low in calories

> - 500

> > or so per day - don't waste your money

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi Phil,

> > >

> > > I am going to start on the HCG diet this next

> > week.  I know that the HCG helps men with their

> > conversion to testosterone, but does HCG have the

> same

> > effect in women?  Mr Dr. seemed to think that this

> did

> > not apply to females but honestly said he was not

> > sure.  Do you know?? 

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

> [The entire original message is not included]

>

>

[Guest guest]

All you can do is try it I know Primary men that get a feeling of well being

from there HCG shot from day one. I don't do my HCG subQ I shoot into my thigh

using a small needle 31g x 1/2 " lg.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: uu1845@... <uu1845@...>

> Subject: RE: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

>

> Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 11:35 AM

> Good info, however if it can increase

> testicle size, I didn't read whether that would mean

> testicles can produce more sperm given the testes have more

> room. I am more focused on sperm and size. Being primary, I

> guess I have ruled out feeling a better sense of well-being

> and for the first time in life, it would be a great thing to

> see my testes fuller. Good info

>

> RE: Re: HCG effect on Testosterone

> for females

>

>

> Well if a man is Primary HCG will still keep his testis

> working the best they can. Most Primary men not yet on TRT

> have a level of T some low very low others higher say 300 so

> if you add in HCG your going to make as much as your testis

> did before you went on TRT.

> Here is a copy of a post to me from Dr. to help me

> get my Dr. to let me try HCG. Going on HCG we were able to

> figure out I was on Primary but I am Secondary.

> ====================================================

> He probably feels that since you suffer primary

> hypogonadism (I am guessing) there is no use in adding HCG

> to your protocol. There are several reasons why this is not

> so. First, you have not lost all Leydig cells, so any HCG

> you take will stimulate those who still function to produce

> endogenous testosterone.

>

> This will support testicular size. We should not ignore

> this aesthetic consideration.

>

> Next, if he reads my work, he will learn that

> HPTA-suppressed (as all TRT patients are to some extent)

> also suffer decreased pregenenolone levels, which is the

> first step after CHOL in all three hormonal pathways which

> begin with CHOL. HCG increases pregnenolone production, and

> therefore restores a more natural balance of our hormones.

>

> Next, nearly all TRT patients who add in HCG to their

> regimens report an increased sense of well-being and also

> libido. These are genuine quality of

>

> [The entire original message is not included]

>

>

[Guest guest]

With a changed mentality and will power along with a physical from a doc,

someone able to diet with exercise can lose weight. Its the will power and these

" quck " weight loss plans that give ppl an option of not changing and confronting

unhealthy behaviors which leads to overeating. If someone like me with a mental

health history due to being primary with side effects of T can lose 70 pounds

with more to go, anyone able to do so can as well w/o weight loss plans that

make the behaviors stay. I learned to confront rather than eating them away.

Re: Re: HCG effect on Testosteron

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[Guest guest]

I did mention when someone is able to do so. If preexisting conditions prevents

the needed changes for weight loss, those conditions must be dealt with

beforehand. However this doesn't explain why someone who is able cannot commit

to changes in order to loss weight. If you physically and mentally able, you can

loose weighr w/o hcg diet plans, etc.

Re: HCG effect on Testosterone for females

>

>

> Dosages of hcg diet range from 100-250 ius daily. The principle is that it

triggers and enyzme in the body to used stored body fat as fuel while preserving

lean muscle mass from elevated testosterone for men and progesterone levels in

females. One is NOT suppose to exercise because this will cause the body to eat

up its lean muscle mass. Walking and low caloires of <500 a day is needed to

make it work. More so I see it as a combination of s

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