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Currently I'm on testosterone pellets--a single medication.

However, Crisler's protocol involves at least 3: testosterone, hCG, and

Arimidex. My questions is, how difficult is it to get these 3 meds right?

I'm starting to read stories about guys chasing their E2 up and down with

Arimidex and never settling on a sweet spot.

Is the 3-part protocol fairly easy to tune up for most men, or does it tend to

take awhile to balance?

Thanks!

CH

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The reason for this is they don't read posts by men that tell them how to do

this. I keep my E2 in the sweet spot and have done this for yrs.

I have a big problem with high levels of E2 because I need higher levels of

Testosterone and my age 66.

My Dr. lets me does my Arimidex by how I feel. I started keeping a log on how I

feel and what I am taking. I can tell when my E2 levels are going up or down.

And it's a little work to learn this and most guys don't take the time to do

this. They are of the mind set that they should be able to find the right dose

and take this dose the same way and keep there E2 levels down.

E2 does not work this way we are bombarded with E2 from every where it's in the

food we eat if you drink water from Plastic bottles the plastic leaches E2 into

the water. If you store your food in plastic or heat it up you putting E2 into

your food.

Just talk to the women in your life she will tell you E2 never says the same for

most women.

Some men before going on TRT there labs are very low on Testosterone and very

high on E2. Others are very low on T and very low on E2. Both being to high

and to low are very bad for men.

Here is what I found if my levels are going up taking arimidex .25 mgs every 3

days. I start to lose my night time and morning wood there are mornings I wake

up and don't know if I had wood the night before. So before I get out of bed I

see if I can get it up fast and if it is good and hard.

If not I know my levels are gong up I will at times get a rash between my little

toe on my right foot. I will get sore and hard nipples, feel hot and sweat

easy, have anxiety or have Panic Attacks, look red on my upper body and face,

hold water and have bad brain fog.

Going down to low is easy you can't get it up taking Viagra in the soft state it

goes into hiding it will not hand normal it will get very small like you left it

out in the cold.

So my Dr. lets me dose my Arimidex but gaging my wood if I am going to high I

will go from .25 mgs every 3 days to every 2 days some times I need to take it

every day.

Going to low I stop taking it until my night time and morning wood comes back

that day I go back on it but go back to every 3 days.

I feel when men are leveled off or tuned up lowering there dose of TRT is a big

mistake to keep E2 down. You end up with lower levels don't feel good anymore

and still have the same problems with E2 going up and down.

Here is a file I made about taking Arimidex and keep E2 in the sweet spot.

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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

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Phil

> From: cylonhippy <cylonhippy@...>

> Subject: Difficulty of 3 meds instead of 1?

>

> Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 11:56 PM

> Currently I'm on testosterone

> pellets--a single medication.

>

> However, Crisler's protocol involves at least 3:

> testosterone, hCG, and Arimidex.  My questions is, how

> difficult is it to get these 3 meds right?

>

> I'm starting to read stories about guys chasing their E2 up

> and down with Arimidex and never settling on a sweet spot.

>

> Is the 3-part protocol fairly easy to tune up for most men,

> or does it tend to take awhile to balance?

>

> Thanks!

> CH

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Hi,

it takes a bit of a while to get it right.

but it's not hard... and the hcg keeps the boys happy.

(it's actually kinda optional... but I don't know anybody who's NOT happy with

it)

I've fine tuned my dosing with the help of the endo department where I work...

I'm using a sustanon type blend which seems to keep me more even... and I'm

doing more than 100mg a week (I'm on the UPPER end of the scale).

but it's not hard to manage... hardest thing is cutting those little bitty

arimidex pills into quarters!

actually I'm doing aromasin right now... I LIKE it... but the cost is such that

I'll switch back to arimidex.

>

> Currently I'm on testosterone pellets--a single medication.

>

> However, Crisler's protocol involves at least 3: testosterone, hCG, and

Arimidex. My questions is, how difficult is it to get these 3 meds right?

>

> I'm starting to read stories about guys chasing their E2 up and down with

Arimidex and never settling on a sweet spot.

>

> Is the 3-part protocol fairly easy to tune up for most men, or does it tend to

take awhile to balance?

>

> Thanks!

> CH

>

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