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Years ago when I was posting at WebMD a guy posted to the Uro there that after

he had a Vasectomy his Testosterone levels fell very low. He said his Family

Dr. just told him he need testosterone meds and would not look into why he was

low. He said he read on the Web going on TRT is for life and he was sure it was

the Vasectomy that did this but his Uro told him it's not possible.

Long story shot the Uro told him to get a test and grow a culture on it looking

for a type of infection that needs a special Antibiotic to treat it. Turns out

it was this infection and after treating it his Testosterone levels came back

up.

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> From: L <lindav1950@...>

> Subject: Vasectomy a Factor??

>

> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:56 AM

> ..I had a vasectomy 35 years ago (at

> the age of 24) following the wife's fourth pregnancy. Sex

> life has never suffered, but I'm now wondering if my

> ultra-low T (~125, gynecomastia, shrinkage, diminished

> muscle mass, lessening of libido, etc.) could have been a

> result.

> ..Some of the medical sites suggest that there is no

> connection, and remind us that in addition to the vas

> deferens, many other vessels deliver blood, etc., to/from

> the testes. Other sites claim the opposite. The relatively

> few Studies have supported both sides of the argument.

> ..On the other hand, during the past decade, I've also had

> Peyronie's Disease, C.A.D. and high cholesterol (~350), a

> heart attack and the usual follow-up 'maintenance' meds

> (Plavix, Amiodarone, Metoprolol and Lipitor) most of which I

> still ingest daily, chronic sleep apnea (now using C-PAP),

> and a botched Foley catheter insertion following another

> surgery. Any or all of these could also be factors in

> causing the low T.

> ..When diagnosed hypothyroid at 35, it was concluded that

> high-dose raditation from x-rays of the throat (tonsils) in

> the '50s must've been the cause. It's too soon to accept

> that this time, I should just chalk it up to 'aging'.

> ..Anyone have an opinion??

> ................................. & V,

> NY..............

>

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What meds are you on for your thyroid?

Sky

 

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From: L <lindav1950@...>

Sent: Sat, 13 February, 2010 1:56:00 AM

Subject: Vasectomy a Factor??

 

...I..When diagnosed hypothyroid at 35, it was concluded that high-dose

raditation from x-rays of the throat (tonsils) in the '50s must've been the

cause. It's too soon to accept that this time, I should just chalk it up to

'aging'.

...Anyone have an opinion??

............. ......... ......... ... & V, NY.......... ....

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Thanks for the reply Sky, and sorry for the delay - this board is so busy, I

just spotted this one!!

...When first diagnosed hypothyroid (1985), TSH was so high that the thyroid was

judged 'completely disfunctional'. Uptake-and-Scan led to 'multi-nodular'

characterization. Plenty of blood tests, etc., but no other complications

identified.

...Docs prescribed synthroid, l-thyroxin, levoxyl and now levothyroxin (generic)

ever since - all of which have adquately controlled the TSH reading to

mid-range. Dosage has fluctuated a little as my weight has. After 35 years, I've

never felt better.

...A subsequent uptake-and-scan (~1998), and a few other more exhaustive blood

tests over the years have yielded no additional cause for concern.

...The useless thyroid gland will only be removed if deemed cancerous.

...Some of the symptoms I was aware of during the year before treatment included:

uncomfortably chilly all of the time (wore sweater in the summer), puffy hands

and face, inexplicably grouchy (quick to fly off-the-handle), hair loss, dry

skin, and tired (sleepy) throughout the day (slower metabolism) - even after a

good night's sleep.

...Each of these were, and continue to be, alleviated by the daily pill.

.........................................

...Whatever causes diabetes II and hypogonadism is most certainly unrelated to

this (will have LH, estradiol, and FSH tested in May - they were all 'okay'

previously), but it seems quite coincidental that so many hormones in the same

body, which most folks are able to ignore, have gone haywire. CT scan showed no

pituitary abnormality.

...Currently on several cardiac meds too, so it'll be a struggle to get some of

the docs to agree to simultaneous treatment of the hypo-g condition anyway

(because of the interaction concern).

>

> What meds are you on for your thyroid?

>

> Sky

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: L <lindav1950@...>

>

> Sent: Sat, 13 February, 2010 1:56:00 AM

> Subject: Vasectomy a Factor??

>

>  

> ..I..When diagnosed hypothyroid at 35, it was concluded that high-dose

raditation from x-rays of the throat (tonsils) in the '50s must've been the

cause. It's too soon to accept that this time, I should just chalk it up to

'aging'.

> ..Anyone have an opinion??

> ............ ......... ......... ... & V, NY.......... ....

>

>

>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

__

> 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and

for free at PLUS7. www.tv..au/plus7

>

>

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L Have you had your cortisol levels checked most of the people on T4 only meds

end up low and we need cortisol to carry the Thyroid hormones out of the blood

into the cells if your low your not going to get them into the cells and it will

build up in your blood.  Most of the people I take to about Thyroid at my forum

have bad dam bad stories about T4 only meds they were on.  When they switched to

natural dessicated thyroid like the old Armour we can't get anymore they felt

better after yrs. thinking this is the best it will get.

My wife was one of them on Synthroid for 15 yrs seeing Endo's one after the

other all ways being told your levels are fine and all they tested was TSH you

can't tell if someone is doing good on meds testing just TSH this is only the

message that tells the thyroid to make more hormones.  Read the stories at these

sites.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/

Some men when they get there TT3,TT4,FT3,FT4 levels up into or past the mid

range find there Testosterone levels come backup.  Also check RT3.

http://thyroid-rt3.com/

Endo's and Dr.'s that only know about Thyroid do to what the drug reps tell them

keep pushing T4 only meds on people and will not try natural dessicated

thyroid.  " Why " it might be because the Drug Co.'s can get a patten on them they

are made for pig thyroids.

Read this link about Adrenals and Thyroid.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/

Most of us now use this because we can't get Armour.

http://www.universaldrugstore.com/medications/Thyroid/60mg

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Phil

> From: L <lindav1950@...>

> Subject: Re: Vasectomy a Factor??

>

> Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 6:38 PM

> Thanks for the reply Sky, and sorry

> for the delay - this board is so busy, I just spotted this

> one!!

> ..When first diagnosed hypothyroid (1985), TSH was so high

> that the thyroid was judged 'completely disfunctional'.

> Uptake-and-Scan led to 'multi-nodular' characterization.

> Plenty of blood tests, etc., but no other complications

> identified.

> ..Docs prescribed synthroid, l-thyroxin, levoxyl and now

> levothyroxin (generic) ever since - all of which have

> adquately controlled the TSH reading to mid-range. Dosage

> has fluctuated a little as my weight has. After 35 years,

> I've never felt better.

> ..A subsequent uptake-and-scan (~1998), and a few other

> more exhaustive blood tests over the years have yielded no

> additional cause for concern.

> ..The useless thyroid gland will only be removed if deemed

> cancerous.

> ..Some of the symptoms I was aware of during the year

> before treatment included: uncomfortably chilly all of the

> time (wore sweater in the summer), puffy hands and face,

> inexplicably grouchy (quick to fly off-the-handle), hair

> loss, dry skin, and tired (sleepy) throughout the day

> (slower metabolism) - even after a good night's sleep.

> ..Each of these were, and continue to be, alleviated by the

> daily pill.

> ........................................

> ..Whatever causes diabetes II and hypogonadism is most

> certainly unrelated to this (will have LH, estradiol, and

> FSH tested in May - they were all 'okay' previously), but it

> seems quite coincidental that so many hormones in the same

> body, which most folks are able to ignore, have gone

> haywire. CT scan showed no pituitary abnormality.

> ..Currently on several cardiac meds too, so it'll be a

> struggle to get some of the docs to agree to simultaneous

> treatment of the hypo-g condition anyway (because of the

> interaction concern).

>

>

> >

> > What meds are you on for your thyroid?

> >

> > Sky

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: L <lindav1950@...>

> >

> > Sent: Sat, 13 February, 2010 1:56:00 AM

> > Subject: Vasectomy a Factor??

> >

> >  

> > ..I..When diagnosed hypothyroid at 35, it was

> concluded that high-dose raditation from x-rays of the

> throat (tonsils) in the '50s must've been the cause. It's

> too soon to accept that this time, I should just chalk it up

> to 'aging'.

> > ..Anyone have an opinion??

> > ............ ......... ......... ... &

> V, NY.......... ....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >   

>

   _____________________________________________________________________________\

_____

> > 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows

> easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7.

> www.tv..au/plus7

> >

> >

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