Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I agree. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry CPAP a Godsend For a couple of decades, I had to sleep on my side to prevent sinus drainage, and later loose tissue obstruction (20-30% overweight), from causing me sleeplessness, excessive loud snoring, and even choking to death. As a heavy smoker at the time, the medicated cough drop trick worked for only a few minutes, if at all, most nights. ...Following a heart attack and subsequent ICD implantation a few years ago, I went for an overnight sleep study at my Cardiologist's recommendation. I was qualified for the CPAP by virtue of averaging more than some number of 'awakening' episodes per hour (something like 20). A second overnight with a full-face mask to determine the appropriate backpressure for the CPAP compressor, and I've been sleeping restfully on my back ever since. Everything was and has since been covered by insurance. ...Anyone whose apnea is severe enough to allow them to ignore the minor inconvenience and discomfort of having a flexible plastic tube deliver 100% of his/her air supply into his/her nose all night is well-advised to pursue using this equipment (you know who you are). If the thought of 'putting up with it' even crosses your mind, then you probably don't really need it!! I love the nasal fitting (as opposed to the full-face mask), and wouldn't think of leaving it home when vacationing. ...As far as the hypogonadism-CPAP connection, I'd be hard to convince that there is any, although there may be some correlation between inadequate sleep and heart function. More likely the high cholestoral and blood vessel obstruction that caused my Peyronie's also led to further complications - associated with the dozen or so meds that I have had to tolerate. Several of them list low T as a side effect. ...In short, being overweight is certainly no reason to dismiss using the CPAP. Most of us will remain overweight - at least for a very long time. And if your snoring bothers your partner, why wait?? ........................GARY V................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I've had a CPAP for about 10 years. It only takes sleeping w/out it one night to realize how great it is. Incidentally I just bought a Mirageâ„¢ SoftGel mask. It's very comfortable. > > I agree. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > CPAP a Godsend > > For a couple of decades, I had to sleep on my side to prevent sinus drainage, and later loose tissue obstruction (20-30% overweight), from causing me sleeplessness, excessive loud snoring, and even choking to death. As a heavy smoker at the time, the medicated cough drop trick worked for only a few minutes, if at all, most nights. > ..Following a heart attack and subsequent ICD implantation a few years ago, I went for an overnight sleep study at my Cardiologist's recommendation. I was qualified for the CPAP by virtue of averaging more than some number of 'awakening' episodes per hour (something like 20). A second overnight with a full-face mask to determine the appropriate backpressure for the CPAP compressor, and I've been sleeping restfully on my back ever since. Everything was and has since been covered by insurance. > ..Anyone whose apnea is severe enough to allow them to ignore the minor inconvenience and discomfort of having a flexible plastic tube deliver 100% of his/her air supply into his/her nose all night is well-advised to pursue using this equipment (you know who you are). If the thought of 'putting up with it' even crosses your mind, then you probably don't really need it!! I love the nasal fitting (as opposed to the full-face mask), and wouldn't think of leaving it home when vacationing. > ..As far as the hypogonadism-CPAP connection, I'd be hard to convince that there is any, although there may be some correlation between inadequate sleep and heart function. More likely the high cholestoral and blood vessel obstruction that caused my Peyronie's also led to further complications - associated with the dozen or so meds that I have had to tolerate. Several of them list low T as a side effect. > ..In short, being overweight is certainly no reason to dismiss using the CPAP. Most of us will remain overweight - at least for a very long time. And if your snoring bothers your partner, why wait?? > .......................GARY V................. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 How do you keep your mouth closed on this they had to put a strap on my head to hold my mouth shut what a pain in the As* don't get me wrong if you need this do it but I don't need it Dr.'s were try to shove this on me. Co-Moderator Phil > From: healthplan2010 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: CPAP a Godsend > > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 3:59 PM > I've had a CPAP for about 10 years. > It only takes sleeping w/out it one night to realize how > great it is. Incidentally I just bought a Mirageâ„¢ > SoftGel mask. It's very comfortable. > > > > > > I agree. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > CPAP a Godsend > > > > For a couple of decades, I had to sleep on my side to > prevent sinus drainage, and later loose tissue obstruction > (20-30% overweight), from causing me sleeplessness, > excessive loud snoring, and even choking to death. As > a heavy smoker at the time, the medicated cough drop trick > worked for only a few minutes, if at all, most nights. > > ..Following a heart attack and subsequent ICD > implantation a few years ago, I went for an overnight sleep > study at my Cardiologist's recommendation. I was > qualified for the CPAP by virtue of averaging more than some > number of 'awakening' episodes per hour (something like 20). > A second overnight with a full-face mask to determine the > appropriate backpressure for the CPAP compressor, and I've > been sleeping restfully on my back ever since. Everything > was and has since been covered by insurance. > > ..Anyone whose apnea is severe enough to allow them to > ignore the minor inconvenience and discomfort of having a > flexible plastic tube deliver 100% of his/her air supply > into his/her nose all night is well-advised to pursue using > this equipment (you know who you are). If the thought of > 'putting up with it' even crosses your mind, then you > probably don't really need it!! I love the nasal fitting (as > opposed to the full-face mask), and wouldn't think of > leaving it home when vacationing. > > ..As far as the hypogonadism-CPAP connection, I'd be > hard to convince that there is any, although there may be > some correlation between inadequate sleep and heart > function. More likely the high cholestoral and blood vessel > obstruction that caused my Peyronie's also led to further > complications - associated with the dozen or so meds that I > have had to tolerate. Several of them list low T as a > side effect. > > ..In short, being overweight is certainly no reason to > dismiss using the CPAP. Most of us will remain overweight - > at least for a very long time. And if your snoring bothers > your partner, why wait?? > > .......................GARY V................. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 For most people, keeping the mouth closed is pretty easy. On the occasion I open my mouth during sleep I awaken because of air blowing out of my mouth. Not to say that I enjoy CPAP... actually I find it obtrusive and a pain in the ass. I find I need to use a CPAP humidifier most of the year. Since I like my home cool at night, in the winter I awaken from the humidifier rain-out as condensation collects and I get " drowned " as I am sleeping. Overall, I am not quite as compliant with this contraption as I should be. Lately I have been thinking about seeing a sleep-oriented dentist for a dental appliance. > > How do you keep your mouth closed on this they had to put a strap on my head to hold my mouth shut what a pain in the As* don't get me wrong if you need this do it but I don't need it Dr.'s were try to shove this on me. > Co-Moderator > Phil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 There is a sugary out I am not sure how good it's been doing but it helps. http://www.restoremedical.com/pillar-procedure/ Co-Moderator Phil > From: <kevinh@...> > Subject: Re: CPAP a Godsend > > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:41 PM > For most people, keeping the mouth > closed is pretty easy. On the occasion I open my mouth > during sleep I awaken because of air blowing out of my > mouth. > > Not to say that I enjoy CPAP... actually I find it > obtrusive and a pain in the ass. I find I need to use > a CPAP humidifier most of the year. Since I like my > home cool at night, in the winter I awaken from the > humidifier rain-out as condensation collects and I get > " drowned " as I am sleeping. > > Overall, I am not quite as compliant with this contraption > as I should be. Lately I have been thinking about > seeing a sleep-oriented dentist for a dental appliance. > > > > > > > > How do you keep your mouth closed on this they had to > put a strap on my head to hold my mouth shut what a pain in > the As* don't get me wrong if you need this do it but I > don't need it Dr.'s were try to shove this on me. > > Co-Moderator > > Phil > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I had rathar severe symptoms of sleep apnea.I never progressed to CPAP but instead went from fat 260 lbs to a lean 185.My wife says she doesn't hear a snore now much less gasping.Losing weight is not easy but living with the associated health problems is a tougher chore.I doubt if you see see sleep apnea in under developed nations where obesity is not seen. > > > > How do you keep your mouth closed on this they had to put a strap on my head to hold my mouth shut what a pain in the As* don't get me wrong if you need this do it but I don't need it Dr.'s were try to shove this on me. > > Co-Moderator > > Phil > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Phil, Great job on the weight loss. How did you do it? Rob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: CPAP a Godsend I had rathar severe symptoms of sleep apnea.I never progressed to CPAP but instead went from fat 260 lbs to a lean 185.My wife says she doesn't hear a snore now much less gasping.Losing weight is not easy but living with the associated health problems is a tougher chore.I doubt if you see see sleep apnea in under developed nations where obesity is not seen. > > > > How do you keep your mouth closed on this they had to put a strap on my head to hold my mouth shut what a pain in the As* don't get me wrong if you need this do it but I don't need it Dr.'s were try to shove this on me. > > Co-Moderator > > Phil > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I have had fatigue for yrs do to all my health problems so when I could not get any exercise I would follow Weight Watchers Program to not gain weight. The when I felt better I work out in the gym on weight machines 3x's a week when I can do this the weight falls off doing WW program. When I was out cold from Heart Bypass Sugary 17 weeks I gained 55 lbs in water I swelled up like a pig. Then when I came to I had lost 75 lbs it's been a yr. that I got out of the Hosp. and the weight keeps coming back on every 8 weeks I see the Dr. and get my As* chewed out for it. I have been watching my Diet real good and as long as I can get exercise I do good last week I lost 6.5 lbs. It's been hard I lost a lot of muscle being out 17 weeks and now I am still not back to my old self. My legs took a big hit I can't walk for more then 15 min.s my knees start to hurt. I just got down blowing the snow and I am not doing bad this is the first time I did this sense the sugary. Co-Moderator Phil > From: rjamestemple@... <rjamestemple@...> > Subject: Re: CPAP a Godsend > > Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 10:13 AM > Phil, > Great job on the weight loss. How did you do it? > > Rob > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Re: CPAP a Godsend > > I had rathar severe symptoms of sleep apnea.I never > progressed to CPAP but instead went from fat 260 lbs to a > lean 185.My wife says she doesn't hear a snore now much less > gasping.Losing weight is not easy but living with the > associated health problems is a tougher chore.I doubt if you > see see sleep apnea in under developed nations where obesity > is not seen. > > > > > > > > How do you keep your mouth closed on this they > had to put a strap on my head to hold my mouth shut what a > pain in the As* don't get me wrong if you need this do it > but I don't need it Dr.'s were try to shove this on me. > > > Co-Moderator > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I've struggled with the CPAP for years. I could not fall asleep with the mask on, the nasal pillows didn't work well. In 2009, I went for another sleep study and then follow up CPAP study and they had me use a full face mask. That did the trick. I am now able to sleep comfortably with the mask and actually can't fall asleep now with out it. I do have to take a small dose of klonopin due to leg movements, but I now sleep most of the way through the night. I still get up a couple of times, but I usually fall right back to sleep. I have gained 45 lbs since the whole hypogonadism/hypothyroidism started about 3 years ago, but no matter what I do, I cannot lose the weight. I do cardio 40 minutes 3 times a week and am on a low hypoglycemic index diet and still nothing. In Feb, I have a year complete blood work done with a 24 hour cortisol urine test. Hoping something shows up that will identify why I can't lose weight. Joe > > For a couple of decades, I had to sleep on my side to prevent sinus drainage, and later loose tissue obstruction (20-30% overweight), from causing me sleeplessness, excessive loud snoring, and even choking to death. As a heavy smoker at the time, the medicated cough drop trick worked for only a few minutes, if at all, most nights. > ..Following a heart attack and subsequent ICD implantation a few years ago, I went for an overnight sleep study at my Cardiologist's recommendation. I was qualified for the CPAP by virtue of averaging more than some number of 'awakening' episodes per hour (something like 20). A second overnight with a full-face mask to determine the appropriate backpressure for the CPAP compressor, and I've been sleeping restfully on my back ever since. Everything was and has since been covered by insurance. > ..Anyone whose apnea is severe enough to allow them to ignore the minor inconvenience and discomfort of having a flexible plastic tube deliver 100% of his/her air supply into his/her nose all night is well-advised to pursue using this equipment (you know who you are). If the thought of 'putting up with it' even crosses your mind, then you probably don't really need it!! I love the nasal fitting (as opposed to the full-face mask), and wouldn't think of leaving it home when vacationing. > ..As far as the hypogonadism-CPAP connection, I'd be hard to convince that there is any, although there may be some correlation between inadequate sleep and heart function. More likely the high cholestoral and blood vessel obstruction that caused my Peyronie's also led to further complications - associated with the dozen or so meds that I have had to tolerate. Several of them list low T as a side effect. > ..In short, being overweight is certainly no reason to dismiss using the CPAP. Most of us will remain overweight - at least for a very long time. And if your snoring bothers your partner, why wait?? > .......................GARY V................. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Phil, Thanks for the info. You certainly did have a hard time of it for awhile. I could stand to lose 30 lbs myself. Am having some recent success following a paleo diet. Rob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: CPAP a Godsend > > I had rathar severe symptoms of sleep apnea.I never > progressed to CPAP but instead went from fat 260 lbs to a > lean 185.My wife says she doesn't hear a snore now much less > gasping.Losing weight is not easy but living with the > associated health problems is a tougher chore.I doubt if you > see see sleep apnea in under developed nations where obesity > is not seen. > > > > > > > > How do you keep your mouth closed on this they > had to put a strap on my head to hold my mouth shut what a > pain in the As* don't get me wrong if you need this do it > but I don't need it Dr.'s were try to shove this on me. > > > Co-Moderator > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I'm glad the weight loss worked for you as it often does. Regrettably I am down to 160 pounds and still snore but I am not getting the profound apnea symptoms as I had in the past when not using the CPAP. I probably need something now to get me past the snoring. > > > > > > How do you keep your mouth closed on this they had to put a strap on my head to hold my mouth shut what a pain in the As* don't get me wrong if you need this do it but I don't need it Dr.'s were try to shove this on me. > > > Co-Moderator > > > Phil > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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