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Hi guys

My first post here on this informative board which was highly

recommended to me by Lethal Lee.

I have been monitoring the posts in this forum for a little while and

have read through many of the reports in the file section which I found

very helpful so a big thanks.

My story is that I have been bouncing around within the Australian

allopathic medical system for the last 5 years without a creditable

answer or a helpful diagnosis of what I believe are my RT3 / Adrenal/

Hormonal and low ferritin problem(s).

My comprehensive details are as follows. I know it is a lot so please

excuse the length of this initial post but I thought I should get it all

out there. If somebody could take the time and effort to provide some

helpful guidance and advice it may assist me to finally move in the

direction of solving my problem(s). For this I would be eternally

grateful and hopefully a whole lot healthier.

I have been over on the RT3 and the NTH Adrenal forums looking for

answers as well.

My details

Male 59 years 182 cm or 6' tall

Currently 70 kilograms or 154 lbs (normal range 70 kgs to maybe 75kgs at

heaviest)

Try to keep fit attending gym 5 nights weekly for running and weights

Resting Heart Rate 55 to 65 BPM (when well and fit) currently though

mostly higher

Under a lot of ongoing stress which can't be solved immediately

Gallbladder was removed in 1990 which was my turning point to eating

healthy

Vegetarian eating seafood, cheese and eggs. Recently added chicken back

in. Try and focus on raw foods as much as I can.

Use Himalayan Salt on food and drink Celtic Sea Salt ½ tsp 3 x p/d

for low sodium

I have been working on raising my chronic low ferritin levels, lowering

my stress load, lowering my RT3 levels, raising my Aldosterone, sodium

and potassium, supporting my adrenals, improving digestion and

absorption and trying to put on some weight, both muscle and fat.

But with my latest serum Estradiol and SHBG results I now need to focus

on my sex hormones again as well, hence I am here. Hope you guys can

help me!

Prescribed Drugs

Tertroxin ( Liothyronine) currently 40mcg daily in split doses, since

September 29 2010. Hoping to wean myself from this gradually in

February/March. Have been aiming for RT3 cellular clearance but not sure

if that is going to happen or not as I am on a lowish dose and wary of

going higher especially without any HC??

Current Supplements per day

" Ethical Nutrients Iron Plus " 20 mg Iron x 1

Thorne Iron Picollinate 25mg x 1

Now Iron Bisglycinate 18mg x 1

Fish oil 1000mg x 4

Now Krill oil 1000mg x 1

Healthy Origins Ubiquinol CoQ10 100mg x 1

Total Balance Multi x 7 tabs Premium combination from NZ

Vit D x 1000iu x 6

Glucosamine Sulphate & Chondroiton 1500mg x 1

Prostate Complete x 1

Ultra Zinc 46mg x 1 every 2nd day as already getting 30mg daily in other

supps

Magnesium oil Ancient Minerals x 100mg elemental Magnesium on skin,

Morning smoothie with Flaxseeds, slippery elm, psyllium husks, WPI,

coconut oil, blueberries, almonds, yoghurt, coconut cream and rice milk.

Have been including Maca 1 tsp but currently just cycling it off and

will add it back in 2 weeks or so along with LGlutamine ½ tsp x 2

Recently added supplements (24th December 2010) to target sex hormones

and adrenals mostly

Natures Way DIM Plus x 6

Metabolic Maintenance DIM Complex x 1

LEF Super MiraForte x 4

Now Tru C 400mg x 2

Ascorbic Palmitate Vit C 500mg x 1

Jarrow Adrenal Optimizer x 1

Thorne Basic B Complex (active) x 2

Now Licorice x 450mg x 2

Doctors Best Proteolitic Enzymes x 2-3

Now Super Digestive Enzymes x 2 with each meal

Now Rhodiola 500mg x 1

LEF Super Zeaxanthan x 1

My ND injected 500mg then 1000mg Glutathione in December

Recently ceased supplements

Bio identical DHEA caps 25mg p/d ceased 6th July 10

Bio identical Testosterone cream ceased 21st May 10

ALA

Chelorex x 16 (for metals chelating) Vit E, C, Selenium

Evening Primrose oil 3 caps (ceased)

Indolplex

EstroSense

Chrysin cream 5%

Chrysin cream 10%

ExtremeY x 1 tab, mens mix includes Ashwaganda 300mg, Ginsengs, Ginko

etc (Ceased on Vals advice re Korean ginseng and Ginko as too

stimulating for struggling adrenal glands)

Testoroid/Erectomax

Licorice Root 1 x 2 p/d from Dec 1st Have replaced with Now brand

Herbs of Gold Stress Ease

Recently ceased supplements that may have been hindering iron absorption

pHour Salts alkalising salts copious amounts in water consisting of

calcium, sodium ,magnesium and potassium bicarbonates

Longevinex x 1 caps Resveratrol, quercetin, phytate and grape seed mix

Vit D continue to take but may have some effect with Calcium on iron

absorption???

Green tea within 4 hours of iron and meals.

Note as a mostly vegetarian, by definition I consume mostly vegetables

which I now understand contain phytates that hinder iron absorption.???

Symptoms

Very cold hands and feet, worse in winter to the point of

" stinging " ,

fine tremor throughout entire body always present, recent occasional

tightness in the neck area, sunken cheeks, very gaunt sickly facial

appearance, dark circles under eyes, dry nostrils sometimes, episodes

of higher Blood pressure last year but low BPs in more recent times

along with raised pulse, low serum free testosterone not reacting to

supplementation, night sweats sometimes, unable to put on /maintain

weight despite 3000kcal diet and regular weights workouts, exceptionally

poor thin skin quality beyond age related expectation, eyes cloudy not

clear, rapidly thinning hair, outer 1/3rd eyebrows gone, lower back pain

sometimes feels like maybe kidney pain?? , Quite often I feel a general

unwell feeling and I am not thriving despite all the considerable effort

with lifestyle, exercise and diet. Recent 10k race sent my HR to 209

when previously it would only reach 175 to 180max

I must add that at this stage I do not have a lot of the seriously

debilitating symptoms that a lot of folk here and the other forums seem

to suffer from thankfully. I go to sleep reasonably easy most nights and

pretty much sleep through for 7 to 8 hours (some nights a bathroom visit

is required) but I do not wake refreshed but rather sluggish actually.

I am a regular runner and I am able to do this and remain competitive

without overly undue exhaustion or air hunger although this seems to be

getting more difficult in recent times. But maybe this is because I have

been stopping some of my runs and have replaced some with walks so as

not to overtax my adrenals so they can heal, hopefully. I am not

diabetic, depressed, manic, brain fogged on drugs of any kind or

suffering from any formally identified illness. I have never had any

known problem with my Thyroid until I discovered the RT3 site and

started researching and testing….thankfully. Although in the back of

my mind I had harboured a question mark over my Thyroid for some time.

So it would seem that I have RT3 resistance in the cells , sluggish

Adrenals, low ferritin, high SHBG, high Estradiol and low free

Testosterone, mid range Total Testosterone and maybe low cortisol as

well as low Aldosterone, sodium and potassium.???. Not withstanding that

my main problems as outlined above under " Symptoms " are severe

enough that they impact negatively on my quality of life and I

absolutely need to fix them…with your help, I function sort of ok on

a daily basis but I am very concerned about my Estradiol levels and my

unwell gaunt appearance is sending a message.

For the last 2 years or so I have been using both bio identical DHEA,

Chrysin cream and Testosterone cream in an effort to normalize my sex

hormone levels. Whilst the DHEA did seem to work with good results I was

concerned about the greater inbalance that this was creating with the

free Testosterone which was not rising.

So I have decided to cease all of these until I fully address my

suspected Adrenal/RT3 problem as I suspect that this issue may also be

somewhat contributing to the mid range DHEA and low free Testosterone

and high SHBG and especially my latest high Estradiol (at 192 or 52.3)

But that's only my thoughts , what do others think?

My theory is that my thyroid is probably somewhat normal in producing

T4/T3 but the main problem is the mis-conversion of T4 to RT3 due to 20

years of vegetarianism contributing to chronic low ferritin levels plus

the significant stress upon me in the last 5 years (which is when my

main symptons first manifested) combining to produce my resistance in

the cell receptors?

My aim is to support my adrenals hopefully with only Adaptogens and

vitamin supplements, continue to raise my ferritin levels with iron

tabs, clear my RT3 with T3 only in 12 to 16 weeks or so then wean off

the T3 after clearance allowing my then supported adrenals and increased

ferritin levels to promote normal function of conversion of T4 to T3 by

my thyroid?

I enclose the results of my last 2 Saliva tests in July and September

2010

Salivary Cortisol 19th July 2010 and

13th Sept

8am 43.2 H (6.0 – 42.0 nmol/L)

34.3

Midday 3.4 (0.0 – 11.0 nmol/L)

7.4

4pm 3.8 (2.0 – 11.0 nmol/L)

3.3

8pm 3.2 (1.0 – 8.0 nmol/L)

0.8

Daily total 53.6 (11.0 – 76.0 nmol/L)

46.8

Midnight 3.1 (0.0 – 5.0 nmol/L)

3.0

Melatonin Midnight 10 (10 – 40 pg/mL)

6.0

Androgens

DHEAS am 7.3 (5.0 – 30.0 nmol/L)

6.7

DHEAS/Cortisol am ratio 0.17 L (0.20 – 0.60 ratio)

0.2

Testosterone 370 (100 – 720

pmol/L)

Progesterone (P4) 139 < 159pmol/L

Estrogens

Estradiol (E2) 5.0 <6 pmol/L

3.0

Estrone (E1) 23.0 H (9.6 – 20.0

pg/mL) 25.0

Estriol (E3) <1.0 (0.00 – 25.0)

pg/mL <1.0

E3/ [E2+E1] 0.04 L >1.0 Ratio

0.04

P4/E2 Ratio 27.8 (4.0 – 108.0

Ratio)

Note I had been taking Ashwaganda 300mg plus other ingredients contained

in my " Nutra Life Extreme Y " Male supplement up to 24 hours

prior to the July test but not for the September test.

These below were part of the July test results of urine

Urine Spot

Creatinine Urine Spot 4.6 (6.5 – 15.0) mmol/L

Urine Iodine 73 ug/L

Urine Iodine corrected 140.4 ug/gCR

Notes: Normal iodine status >100ug Iodine /g creatinine

Urine 24 hour

Testosterone, urine 0.9 (0.6 – 2.2) umol/24h

I also include some of my blood test history through 2010

Blood tests

Feb-10

May-10

Jun-10

July/Aug/ Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec 10

Component

Range

S & N Labs

Testosterone total

10--33

24

22

18.6

24 22 21 22

Testosterone free

40-100

42

29

28 20 19 18

Testosterone free calc

260-740

265

Oestradiol

40-250

162

131

89

155 155 122 150 192

DHEA

300-2700

1600

2300

1300 1300

SHBG

13-71

57

59

60 56 81 79

17 OH Pregnenolone

0.0-10.0

5.5

Hydroxy-Progesterone

0.2--1.8

1.3

DHT

3.19

Prolactin

<15

5

5

Luteinizing hormone

3--20

5

5

Follicle Stimulating

3--20

17

17

Cotrisol 24 hour urine

80-590

Cortisol

190-610

320

360

450 530 520 470 370

ACTH

5--50

21

24

22 43 32 29

Adrenaline

<1.0

0.2

Noradenaline

<3.5

5.9+

Normetadrenaline free

<900

308

Metadrenaline free

<500

145

HbA1c

<6

PSA

<3.20

0.48

0.52

0.38 0.45

Cholesterol

3.9-7.4

5.1

4.5

4.7 4.9 4.2 4.7 4.6

Triglycerides

0.3-2.2

0.5

0.6

0.5 0.6 0.5 0.4 0.4

ESR

1--20

1

Serum Ferritin Assay

20-320

48

42

60 / 40

61 55 55 60 57 66

Iron

10--33

18

29

17 / 18

32 25 24 25 16 13

Transferrin IBC

45 - 70

69 / 61

71 68 59 64 61 61

Transferrin Saturation %

16 - 50

25 / 29

45 37 41 39 26 21

Serum Vit B12 Assay

162-811

888+

354

453

902+

Red cell Magnesium

5.2-7.5

5.4

Serum zinc

19

16

Glucose

3-6 fasting

5.3

5.4

5.3

Homocysteine

0.0-15.0

7

11

8.1

6.7

Vitamin D 25hydroxy

50-300

160

160

140 120 140

Albumin

35-50

43

41 43 45

Globulins

20-40

27

24 24 25

Renin

3 -- 40

32

64+ 22 31 44

Aldosterone

100-950

190

440 250 210 280

Aldosterone/Renin ratio

2--75

6

7 11 7 6

Red Cell Folate Assay

545-3370

869

556

2343

1113

THS

0.4-4.00

1

0.7

1.1

0.9 0.1 0.3 0.07

Free T4

10 - 20

17

19 13 13 11

Free T3

2.8 - 6.8

5

4.8 5.9 4.8 6.8

Anti Thyroglobulin Ab

<60

39

42 22

Anti Thyroid Peroxidase Ab

<60

18

43 53

Red Cell Porphryn

0--900

430

530

Reverse T3

170--450

462+

449

540+

Serum Leptin

2.0 - 5.6

2.4

Sodium

137 - 147

142

140

140 138 139 138

Potassium

3.5 - 5.0

4.4

4.4

4.8 4.3 4.5 3.9

Calcium

2.25- 2.65

2.46

2.43

2.64 2.49 2.37 2.49

Billirubin Total

2 -- 20

17

23+

21 18 22 14

Billirubin Direct

0 -- 8

7

6

Questions

1. Am I hopefully on the right track with the DIM, Super MiraForte and

other supplements targeting improvements in the sex hormones??

2. What else do I need to do and what has been the experience of those

here with any of the above supps?

3. Are any of my vast array of supplements etc likely to be working

against me?

4. I am unsure of my real iodine status (despite spot test) so have

stayed away from most identified iodine but not sure if this is the

right approach or the wrong approach so any suggestions might be

helpful.

5. Does anyone know how to safely increase my Aldosterone levels or how

much Licorice is safe to take and for how long?

6. It seems that taking salt for low sodium may contribute in driving

Aldosterone down so how do I raise sodium, Aldosterone, potassium and

also keep calcium from elevating?

I am open to all comments and will very much welcome your input on any

aspect of the above as I feel I am now desperately struggling with all

this and can't really see my way forward.

Forgive me for the length of this post but I just need to get everything

out there for completeness.

The big question is what do I do now? Hopefully I will receive some

valuable advice and guidance from this informed community.

Kindest regards and warmest thanks

Wayne

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