Re: need advice -badly

[Guest guest]

My labs range goes up to 1100 I feel better between 800 to 900 so what is the

problem with your Dr. I don't trust your lab. Hosp. labs are not very good when

it comes to hormones. If you can next time get a script for you labs and go to

a Quest lab for the blood draw. Be sure to do a shower that morning don't put

on the gel and do your blood labs. If you can't do this in the morning. Shower

put on the gel keeping it off the area that they take your blood from and do

your labs after 6 hrs.

Here is what I am have done at Quest Labs

Estradiol sensitive Code #4021

Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X.

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Phil

> From: Jeff <je1955@...>

> Subject: need advice -badly

>

> Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 9:26 AM

> I started TRT in November with a

> testosterone level of 117.  I see an Endrocronologist

> that is also my internist and is about 60 years old.  I

> had been at that testerone level for two years and he

> reluctantly started me on four pumps of Androgel in Nov

> 2009.  In December my Test level was 525.  Then

> three weeks ago it was 940.  I did not believe it so I

> repeated the test with no gel on-first thing in the

> morning.  Again results came back at 932 with Estradiol

> level of 103.  I am not feeling nearly as good as I did

> when I started TRT.  Doc said to back off to three

> pumps of androgel and come back in four months.  I

> ordered Pure Rip with DIM as you suggested and am taking one

> a day.  Somehow I think I need to try something

> else.  What do you guys recommned?  I am in good

> health otherwise. Should I take more Pure Rip?  I do

> not think this doc uses med to reduce Estradiol.  I

> feel lost...  Thanks

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Jeff - I have never seen numbers that high on the amount of androgel you

were on but we all react differently. Make sure the estradiol was tested as that

and not estrogen which gives you the sum of all ester molecules which there are

3 different ones. If your E2 was that high this is why you are not up to par and

reducing your total T will help that. I am not familiar with the product you

mention but I assume it is DIM. This did not work for me and that is why I am on

arimidex. I am getting ready to dump my ENDO and go to a DO. He also does not

prescribe arimidex which doesn't work for me. It's tough finding the sweet spot

and it also seems to be a moving target. If you are not having erection problems

your Total T may be that high. I would expect some issues if your T was down

around your starting values of 117.

 

Arkansas

From: Jeff <je1955@...>

Subject: need advice -badly

Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 8:26 AM

 

I started TRT in November with a testosterone level of 117. I see an

Endrocronologist that is also my internist and is about 60 years old. I had been

at that testerone level for two years and he reluctantly started me on four

pumps of Androgel in Nov 2009. In December my Test level was 525. Then three

weeks ago it was 940. I did not believe it so I repeated the test with no gel

on-first thing in the morning. Again results came back at 932 with Estradiol

level of 103. I am not feeling nearly as good as I did when I started TRT. Doc

said to back off to three pumps of androgel and come back in four months. I

ordered Pure Rip with DIM as you suggested and am taking one a day. Somehow I

think I need to try something else. What do you guys recommned? I am in good

health otherwise. Should I take more Pure Rip? I do not think this doc uses med

to reduce Estradiol. I feel lost... Thanks