Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Yes to both it is very passable to gain 200 to 300 points on Testosterone getting Estradiol levels down. As you get the Estradiol down your brain thinks your T is going to low and starts sending the LH and FSH messages again to tell the testis to make Testosterone. Because your brain sees high levels of Estradiol as high levels of Estradiol. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dale <etherial@...> > Subject: Difference between DIM and Arimadex > > Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 11:29 AM > I am not completely clear on the > difference between these two " medications " > > As I understand it, DIM is not an aromatase inhibitor. > Instead it converts estradiol into less potent estrogens > that can be eliminated > and in doing so it improves the T/E2 ratio. T stays > constant. > > Arimadex, on the other hand, blocks conversion of T to E2 > so the > T/E2 ratio is improved by both an increase in T and a > decrease in E2. > > Is this correct? > > If it is correct it would seem that Arimadex would be the > better choice if T is low to begin with. > > This sort of begs another question. > If E2 is high is it possible to get enough T using Arimadex > so that one could avoid the need Testosterone replacement? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Thanks Phil. Ahh! The brain " sees " Estradiol as T and downregulates production of T. This is the part I was missing and explains how DIM can increase T. > > > From: Dale <etherial@...> > > Subject: Difference between DIM and Arimadex > > > > Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 11:29 AM > > I am not completely clear on the > > difference between these two " medications " > > > > As I understand it, DIM is not an aromatase inhibitor. > > Instead it converts estradiol into less potent estrogens > > that can be eliminated > > and in doing so it improves the T/E2 ratio. T stays > > constant. > > > > Arimadex, on the other hand, blocks conversion of T to E2 > > so the > > T/E2 ratio is improved by both an increase in T and a > > decrease in E2. > > > > Is this correct? > > > > If it is correct it would seem that Arimadex would be the > > better choice if T is low to begin with. > > > > This sort of begs another question. > > If E2 is high is it possible to get enough T using Arimadex > > so that one could avoid the need Testosterone replacement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Because your brain sees high levels of Estradiol as high levels of Estradiol. This confused me is your prior response. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Difference between DIM and Arimadex > > Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 11:29 AM > I am not completely clear on the > difference between these two " medications " > > As I understand it, DIM is not an aromatase inhibitor. > Instead it converts estradiol into less potent estrogens > that can be eliminated > and in doing so it improves the T/E2 ratio. T stays > constant. > > Arimadex, on the other hand, blocks conversion of T to E2 > so the > T/E2 ratio is improved by both an increase in T and a > decrease in E2. > > Is this correct? > > If it is correct it would seem that Arimadex would be the > better choice if T is low to begin with. > > This sort of begs another question. > If E2 is high is it possible to get enough T using Arimadex > so that one could avoid the need Testosterone replacement? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Sorry should have reread this " Because your brain sees high levels of Estradiol as high levels of Testosterone. " Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Dale <etherial@...> > > Subject: Difference between DIM and > Arimadex > > > > Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 11:29 AM > > I am not completely clear on the > > difference between these two " medications " > > > > As I understand it, DIM is not an aromatase > inhibitor. > > Instead it converts estradiol into less potent > estrogens > > that can be eliminated > > and in doing so it improves the T/E2 ratio. T stays > > constant. > > > > Arimadex, on the other hand, blocks conversion of T to > E2 > > so the > > T/E2 ratio is improved by both an increase in T and a > > decrease in E2. > > > > Is this correct? > > > > If it is correct it would seem that Arimadex would be > the > > better choice if T is low to begin with. > > > > This sort of begs another question. > > If E2 is high is it possible to get enough T using > Arimadex > > so that one could avoid the need Testosterone > replacement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Yes that is it and DIM converts Estradiol the bad guy here into good E's so your liver can wash them out easy. Dr. feels to help this proccess take some TMG 750 mgs. at bed time it will help your liver work better. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dale <etherial@...> > Subject: Re: Difference between DIM and Arimadex > > Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 12:31 PM > Thanks Phil. > Ahh! The brain " sees " Estradiol as T and > downregulates production of T. This is the part I was > missing and explains how DIM can increase T. > > > > > > > From: Dale <etherial@...> > > > Subject: Difference between DIM > and Arimadex > > > > > > Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 11:29 AM > > > I am not completely clear on the > > > difference between these two " medications " > > > > > > As I understand it, DIM is not an aromatase > inhibitor. > > > Instead it converts estradiol into less potent > estrogens > > > that can be eliminated > > > and in doing so it improves the T/E2 ratio. T > stays > > > constant. > > > > > > Arimadex, on the other hand, blocks conversion of > T to E2 > > > so the > > > T/E2 ratio is improved by both an increase in T > and a > > > decrease in E2. > > > > > > Is this correct? > > > > > > If it is correct it would seem that Arimadex > would be the > > > better choice if T is low to begin with. > > > > > > This sort of begs another question. > > > If E2 is high is it possible to get enough T > using Arimadex > > > so that one could avoid the need Testosterone > replacement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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