Re: Please forgive me for this rant

[Guest guest]

If you are talking about what i think you are, getting a bigger penis,then I

doubt any devices will give lasting results and could actually damage your

penis.I have always been very comfortable with my size but one thing has

actually helped.You mentioned weight loss.I had a very thick suprapubic

pad.Probably a good two inches deep.Once I lost a lot of weight and got lean,I

am barely able to pinch any tissue up in that pad area.Results are about 1 3/4 "

more of my penis is now visible which was once hid in the fat.Same size as

before but appears much longer.With subsequent waist size reduction, the girth

appears larger.Kind of an optical illusion but I will take it.To correct the

small balls, I do a month of hcg 250mg twice a week then take two months off the

hcg.If you have been on trt a long time, the hcg might not work though.

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> Bathmate, penis pump, brought and extender (but it broke), jelqs, lengthening

exercises, weight loss.... All for a bigger penis

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> This is my main curse and depression. I have gone from 5.5 - 6.4 in a year 1/2

off-on. I am now at a .2 penis cylinder.

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> Anyone can relate to having penis size issues while having Hypogondism?

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> Please share.

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> I also have small testicles which suck and are embarrassing.

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> I go on PE sites and they all care about how bigger it can get. No support

just to do PE to have sex with women.

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> I am the only person who is the opposite; do PE for you and not to get laid,

of course they cannot stand this ideology.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for responding back along with the other members; meant a lot. It's a

rant and not all the time, rants will make sense to others.

I have lost close to 50 pounds, but not there with the lean part yet although I

look much better than what I was prior.

Every time I am close, I get depressed for a couple of days due to... and start

again excerpting. The good thing is I don't go out and eat very fating foods.

How I got from 5.5 till 6.4? A LOT OF HARD WORK!

It's not mentally easy to do PE regularly. I lost mental focus last year and

regained it last March, when I started to lose weight again.

After research, I found a program that worked for me. Manual PE doesn't have any

patents and can be researched as well.

You have to do this regularly and be patient. Devices are add-on's that can

help, but alone they are worthless.

I find sharing on PE sites that are dominated by rude and horny men trying to

" race to the top " of the size mountain top, depressing and uninteresting. If

you are not talking about how much gains you made while sleeping with chicks,

the leader (guy who made the PE excise) will not respect you.

I find ranting to guys in here much more comfortable.

If you want to specifically know more, email me. I am not promoting any guy in

the PE world who I find ignorant.

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I was told, being primary, HCG would be worthless to me. On top of issues, I

have to worry if I do find a woman for a long term relationship, whether I can

conceive normally.

The more T., I take the more it will lower my count and make my testicles

smaller.

I was thinking about replacing my testicles down the road; after the miracle of

finding a wife and having three kids. Now, I have minor shooting pains on my

sides from, I guess, the PE I do.

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Self acceptance is a difficult thing, but I am trying. I am better at helping

others achieve this. I thought if you were Gay, it would be easier to find

someone accepting, given it's a smaller community. I am glad to read you have

accepted who you are with the chance at finding a mate who can do the same.

[Guest guest]

Man,.....get over it for your own good.

Unless you are trying to sell something which will get you booted out of here,

all of the things you mention are temporary, and many will permanently damage

you.

I don't care what some docs say, but low T WILL shrink your penis, as will many

other things. This is from a guy that used to be 8 " which is above average. I am

only about 7 " erect now and half the time in the flaccid state it looks all

shriveled up. I also know my testicles are shrinking even though the docs say

all is normal.

It is what it is.

If you base your entire life on sex, and the size of your penis/balls, you will

be one miserable human being is all I can say.

Even if a man becomes totally impotent, and is married to a female still

interested in sex,......there are many ways to take care of her needs and keep

her happy.

The average is 5 to 6 " so be happy and quit worrying yourself into a mental

illness. The more you obsess, the smaller it will become due to emotional

stress.

Mine still works for now, and I hope it continues to. As long as I can take a

pee though I will be happy! LOL

[Guest guest]

I expected a response like this from a PE site. When did I " sell " anything? When

did I put emphasis on a routine that I do publicly? I avoided that specifically

so I wouldn't be judged in this matter.

The fact Hypogondism or another hormonal disorder can cause your penis and

testicles to become smaller, should be a topic of discussion without being

negatively judged.

What else forum do I have to voice my concerns?

At least, I figured men on here would relate to some degree.

Some men has dealt with this all their lives. Not just the disorder, but what

came afterward.

You just don't " get over it " , something you have been dealing with emotionally

all your life. Especially in a society where 'bigger is better' and stereotypes

are everywhere. I am glad you are not a mental health professional...

I would be jumping for joy if my penis can reach 7. That is my goal through PE.

Guys on PE sites would love you because you would mention how you was blessed to

have a large penis. Well, not every man can relate and some men do suffer

because of it.

Wow, having a 7 inch penis is a depressing let down that you " had to let go " ...

Many men would see what you have as a gift and never a let down.

I have to do PE for over an hour each day, in hopes I can reach my goal of 7

inches. At least, I can take some of the trauma away from being smaller all my

life. But I have to work at it. Men like you do not understand that concept, and

I am glad that you do not. But it's a lot of work to train your mind to do this

every day and feel ashamed when you miss a day.

I respect this group and I would like to read more men sharing about their

issues.

I will not go into my T blood tests, etc. I didn't sign on for it. I have a

handle on it after years of research and tests. I am primary and it's nothing I

can do other than continue taking T on a regular basis, and if I find a woman

that I can love (she loves me), my fear will be whether I can naturally conceive

with her while being off T.

I worry while being off T, will uncontrollable depression and body fatigue come

back (and please don't type, try HCG). HCG is not the answer to each hormonal

problem and will not help most primary guys.

Be fortunate you are not primary. Not knowing if you can do something so basic

as conceive a child is a truly horrible and self-hating feeling.

[Guest guest]

Well obviously you took everything I said the wrong way.

First off I was only warning you that you would be booted if you were trying to

sell anything,......you advised folks to e-mail you for 'info' per se.

Second,.....I am not bragging about my penis size in any way. Actually I was

confirming that low T does cause the penis to shrink and atrophy regardless of

what most docs say. I am a perfect example with a loss of an inch in just a year

or two,.....I have lost a small amount of girth as well.

I figure it will continue, and since I don't do any of the things you do you

will most likely pass me up one day! LOL

I don't care either way, as my penis is not my entire life. That was the point I

was TRYING to get across.

Believe me,.....if you saw my flaccid penis at times you would die from

laughter!

Good luck to you. I just personally do not believe in the stuff you are talking

about as I have heard it is too easy to permanently injure yourself. I have

never tried ANY of it, nor do I plan on it in the future.

And finally,.....believe it or not, most of us here do not talk about the size

of our penis or worry about it.

[Guest guest]

Since I can't seem to edit my post, I want to add one last item.

The vast majority of the folks on this site are simply trying to navigate

through the maze of joke doctors, and to attempt to feel overall like 'normal'

human beings again.

Simple things like being able to work without coming home and wanting to

collapse in bed from the sheer exhaustion and fatigue.

My initial response was not a personal attack towards you by any means.

[Guest guest]

Forgive me for asking, but how does anyone other than a partner even know one's

size? With women, if you're flat or buxom, everyone knows, so women have padded

bras, surgery, etc. But with a guy, how would anyone know?

And what is PE? I thought it was premature ejaculation. Is it penis extender?

Are there really such things?

And thanks Marc for presenting a healthy outlook on the topic. I could

personally care less about size, and this applies to your balls too. No HCG for

DH at the moment!

Barb

> And finally,.....believe it or not, most of us here do not talk about the size

of our penis or worry about it.

[Guest guest]

Barb,....I think his PE means 'penis enlargement' techniques so to speak.

You can do some research if you want, but yes, they do make all kinds of

contraptions for males to injure themselves with permanently.

Your DH is obviously a lucky man!

[Guest guest]

I think that it means penis enlargement too, but is could mean penis exercises?

FYI: After I had complained to my Endo about Atrophy and penis getting smaller,

they gave me a prescription kit for a Vacuum Erection Device. They told me that

some insurance companies pay for it and some pay a portion of the cost, but mine

didnt cover anything, and the device was about $300. They have a none

prescription model for $199. What I was told was that when you have night time

and morning wood that it helps keep the penis tissue healthy with oxygen and

blood, but when your not having these and also having ED that your penis can

start having more trouble because the tissue isn't healthy anymore. I really

cant afford the none prescription model now either, but they offer 90 day return

policy.

Why would my Endo suggest this if it has a possibility of injury? I guess that

makes since, cause they didn't figure out if I was primary or secondary, and

they gave me to shots of 400mg Test Cyp in 2 weeks which made me feel like crap.

They really don't know anything do they?

For anyone interested in the web site its

www.firmabedical.com<http://www.firmabedical.com> it's mostly used for men who

have had the prostate remove because of cancer, but my Dr said that she

prescribes it to men with ED and other symptoms.

Re: Please forgive me for this rant

Barb,....I think his PE means 'penis enlargement' techniques so to speak.

You can do some research if you want, but yes, they do make all kinds of

contraptions for males to injure themselves with permanently.

Your DH is obviously a lucky man!

[Guest guest]

Thanks , that makes sense about the blood and oxygen. There would be

medical reasons for using that device. I just don't get the size obsession.

For me, from the female point of view, the bigger the scarier!

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> I think that it means penis enlargement too, but is could mean penis

exercises?

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> FYI: After I had complained to my Endo about Atrophy and penis getting

smaller, they gave me a prescription kit for a Vacuum Erection Device. They told

me that some insurance companies pay for it and some pay a portion of the cost,

but mine didnt cover anything, and the device was about $300. They have a none

prescription model for $199. What I was told was that when you have night time

and morning wood that it helps keep the penis tissue healthy with oxygen and

blood, but when your not having these and also having ED that your penis can

start having more trouble because the tissue isn't healthy anymore. I really

cant afford the none prescription model now either, but they offer 90 day return

policy.

>

> Why would my Endo suggest this if it has a possibility of injury? I guess that

makes since, cause they didn't figure out if I was primary or secondary, and

they gave me to shots of 400mg Test Cyp in 2 weeks which made me feel like crap.

They really don't know anything do they?

> For anyone interested in the web site its

> www.firmabedical.com<http://www.firmabedical.com> it's mostly used for men

who have had the prostate remove because of cancer, but my Dr said that she

prescribes it to men with ED and other symptoms.

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> Barb,....I think his PE means 'penis enlargement' techniques so to speak.

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> You can do some research if you want, but yes, they do make all kinds of

contraptions for males to injure themselves with permanently.

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> Your DH is obviously a lucky man!

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[Guest guest]

when I had ED for 10 yrs not knowing it was from high levels of Estradiol.

I used a penis pump to pump it up and a ring to keep the blood in my penis so I

could have sex with my wife. You can over do it with a pump and hurt your

penis. A good place for this is the Files section read " How to Pump pdf. " Or

go to the ED forum here at and read up on this in the files section there.

Alt-Support-Impotence-ASI/

This link talks about night time and morning wood and how it works.

http://www.sexdictionary.info/erection_nocturnal.html

one good way to get morning wood to help keep your penis healthy is to take

Cialis 20 mgs every 3 days or 5mgs everyday. But have your penis checked out by

a Uro to make sure there is nothing wrong with it that it will not get hard or

stay up.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Pryor <j.pryor@...>

> Subject: RE: Re: Please forgive me for this rant

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> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 2:35 PM

> I think that it means penis

> enlargement too, but is could mean penis exercises?

>

> FYI: After I had complained to my Endo about Atrophy and

> penis getting smaller, they gave me a prescription kit for a

> Vacuum Erection Device. They told me that some insurance

> companies pay for it and some pay a portion of the cost, but

> mine didnt cover anything, and the device was about $300.

> They have a none prescription model for $199. What I was

> told was that when you have night time and morning wood that

> it helps keep the penis tissue healthy with oxygen and

> blood, but when your not having these and also having ED

> that your penis can start having more trouble because the

> tissue isn't healthy anymore. I really cant afford the none

> prescription model now either, but they offer 90 day return

> policy.

>

> Why would my Endo suggest this if it has a possibility of

> injury? I guess that makes since, cause they didn't figure

> out if I was primary or secondary, and they gave me to shots

> of 400mg Test Cyp in 2 weeks which made me feel like crap.

> They really don't know anything do they?

> For anyone interested in the web site its

> www.firmabedical.com<http://www.firmabedical.com>  it's mostly used

> for men who have had the prostate remove because of cancer,

> but my Dr said that she prescribes it to men with ED and

> other symptoms.

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> Barb,....I think his PE means 'penis enlargement'

> techniques so to speak.

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> You can do some research if you want, but yes, they do make

> all kinds of contraptions for males to injure themselves

> with permanently.

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> Your DH is obviously a lucky man!

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[Guest guest]

Yes bigger is not better a man can bring a women to an orgasm with his little

finger.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Re: Please forgive me for this rant

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> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 3:08 PM

> Thanks , that makes sense about

> the blood and oxygen.  There would be medical reasons

> for using that device.  I just don't get the size

> obsession.  For me, from the female point of view, the

> bigger the scarier!

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> >

> > I think that it means penis enlargement too, but is

> could mean penis exercises?

> >

> > FYI: After I had complained to my Endo about Atrophy

> and penis getting smaller, they gave me a prescription kit

> for a Vacuum Erection Device. They told me that some

> insurance companies pay for it and some pay a portion of the

> cost, but mine didnt cover anything, and the device was

> about $300. They have a none prescription model for $199.

> What I was told was that when you have night time and

> morning wood that it helps keep the penis tissue healthy

> with oxygen and blood, but when your not having these and

> also having ED that your penis can start having more trouble

> because the tissue isn't healthy anymore. I really cant

> afford the none prescription model now either, but they

> offer 90 day return policy.

> >

> > Why would my Endo suggest this if it has a possibility

> of injury? I guess that makes since, cause they didn't

> figure out if I was primary or secondary, and they gave me

> to shots of 400mg Test Cyp in 2 weeks which made me feel

> like crap. They really don't know anything do they?

> > For anyone interested in the web site its

> > www.firmabedical.com<http://www.firmabedical.com>  it's mostly used

> for men who have had the prostate remove because of cancer,

> but my Dr said that she prescribes it to men with ED and

> other symptoms.

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> > Barb,....I think his PE means 'penis enlargement'

> techniques so to speak.

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> > You can do some research if you want, but yes, they do

> make all kinds of contraptions for males to injure

> themselves with permanently.

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> > Your DH is obviously a lucky man!

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