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Hi Rob it's good your doing better and your aggression is not from Testim. Your

just feeling better and have the energy to get mad. Most people get mad when

they are cut off. I do and your OK doing the shower after your work out they

say the gel needs to be on 6 hrs. before swimming or a shower read the insert

that came with it.

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> From: Tomines <robtomines@...>

> Subject: testim testimonial

>

> Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 1:58 PM

> Hi,

>

> I'm on day 4 of the testim and I'm surprised at how quickly

> it seems

> to be working.  I didn't feel the normal morning

> fatigue that I

> normally do this morning and I seem to be much more focused

> (at work)

> than I have been in months.  Also my libido is through

> the roof.  I

> didn't need the viagara at all this past weekend and my

> girlfriend

> commented on how the odor was like a faint cologne.

>

> The one thing of concern that I noticed was an increase in

> aggression.

> I got into a minor spat with a lady at the grocery store

> because she

> cut me off with her cart this past weekend.  I also

> stopped next to a

> car at a stoplight and exchanged words with the driver

> after he cut me

> off.  This is totally not my typical behavior. 

> My girlfriend was the

> one who actually noticed both events and commented on

> this.   Is this

> normal?

>

> Also how long would you say it takes for testim to absorb

> into your

> body?  I work out 5 days a week during my lunch hour

> 1:30p to 2:30p.

> I apply the testim around 7:30am.  I sweat profusely

> and during my

> workout on Friday I was dripping the sticky mixture of

> sweat and

> testim? off my shoulders and upper arms.  I always

> shower after my

> workout around 2:30p.

>

> Is the 6-7 hours between 7:30am and 1:30p-2:30p a

> sufficient amount of

> time for the testim to absorb before working out (sweating)

> and

> showering?

>

> Rob

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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Rob,

I'd hate to rain on your parade, but you need to get your levels tested before

you come to any conclusions. I've been on it for 9 months at 2 tube/ day and

it's barely raised me 150 points.

These things have a huge placebo effect. I hope I'm wrong and that it's working

out for you. But you wouldn't be alone. My doctors have to change my placebos

regularly ;)

Dave

>

> Hi,

>

> I'm on day 4 of the testim and I'm surprised at how quickly it seems

> to be working. I didn't feel the normal morning fatigue that I

> normally do this morning and I seem to be much more focused (at work)

> than I have been in months. Also my libido is through the roof. I

> didn't need the viagara at all this past weekend and my girlfriend

> commented on how the odor was like a faint cologne.

>

> The one thing of concern that I noticed was an increase in aggression.

> I got into a minor spat with a lady at the grocery store because she

> cut me off with her cart this past weekend. I also stopped next to a

> car at a stoplight and exchanged words with the driver after he cut me

> off. This is totally not my typical behavior. My girlfriend was the

> one who actually noticed both events and commented on this. Is this

> normal?

>

> Also how long would you say it takes for testim to absorb into your

> body? I work out 5 days a week during my lunch hour 1:30p to 2:30p.

> I apply the testim around 7:30am. I sweat profusely and during my

> workout on Friday I was dripping the sticky mixture of sweat and

> testim? off my shoulders and upper arms. I always shower after my

> workout around 2:30p.

>

> Is the 6-7 hours between 7:30am and 1:30p-2:30p a sufficient amount of

> time for the testim to absorb before working out (sweating) and

> showering?

>

> Rob

>

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Yeah I'm aware of the placebo effect. It's probably best to keep grounded

about this. On the other hand my younger brother has been on 1tube/day

testim for the past 10 months and his most recent test was 900+. His doctor

wants to scale back his prescription but he says he feels on top of the

world. Hopefully I have similar results.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Dave <dcbaden@...> wrote:

>

>

> Rob,

>

> I'd hate to rain on your parade, but you need to get your levels tested

> before you come to any conclusions. I've been on it for 9 months at 2 tube/

> day and it's barely raised me 150 points.

> These things have a huge placebo effect. I hope I'm wrong and that it's

> working out for you. But you wouldn't be alone. My doctors have to change my

> placebos regularly ;)

>

> Dave

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I'm on day 4 of the testim and I'm surprised at how quickly it seems

> > to be working. I didn't feel the normal morning fatigue that I

> > normally do this morning and I seem to be much more focused (at work)

> > than I have been in months. Also my libido is through the roof. I

> > didn't need the viagara at all this past weekend and my girlfriend

> > commented on how the odor was like a faint cologne.

> >

> > The one thing of concern that I noticed was an increase in aggression.

> > I got into a minor spat with a lady at the grocery store because she

> > cut me off with her cart this past weekend. I also stopped next to a

> > car at a stoplight and exchanged words with the driver after he cut me

> > off. This is totally not my typical behavior. My girlfriend was the

> > one who actually noticed both events and commented on this. Is this

> > normal?

> >

> > Also how long would you say it takes for testim to absorb into your

> > body? I work out 5 days a week during my lunch hour 1:30p to 2:30p.

> > I apply the testim around 7:30am. I sweat profusely and during my

> > workout on Friday I was dripping the sticky mixture of sweat and

> > testim? off my shoulders and upper arms. I always shower after my

> > workout around 2:30p.

> >

> > Is the 6-7 hours between 7:30am and 1:30p-2:30p a sufficient amount of

> > time for the testim to absorb before working out (sweating) and

> > showering?

> >

> > Rob

> >

>

>

>

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I need to tell you men don't get levels this high on one tube 5 grams of Testim

what is going on here is he is putting on the gel then doing his labs spiking up

his labs. You need to shower first then go in and do your labs then put on the

gel after. If you can't do this show put on the gel keeping it off the area

they take the blood and do the labs after 6 hrs. Men are lucky to get levels up

into the upper 500 into 600 on 2 tubes 10 grams.

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Phil

>

> >

> >

> > Rob,

> >

> > I'd hate to rain on your parade, but you need to get

> your levels tested

> > before you come to any conclusions. I've been on it

> for 9 months at 2 tube/

> > day and it's barely raised me 150 points.

> > These things have a huge placebo effect. I hope I'm

> wrong and that it's

> > working out for you. But you wouldn't be alone. My

> doctors have to change my

> > placebos regularly ;)

> >

> > Dave

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I'm on day 4 of the testim and I'm surprised at

> how quickly it seems

> > > to be working. I didn't feel the normal morning

> fatigue that I

> > > normally do this morning and I seem to be much

> more focused (at work)

> > > than I have been in months. Also my libido is

> through the roof. I

> > > didn't need the viagara at all this past weekend

> and my girlfriend

> > > commented on how the odor was like a faint

> cologne.

> > >

> > > The one thing of concern that I noticed was an

> increase in aggression.

> > > I got into a minor spat with a lady at the

> grocery store because she

> > > cut me off with her cart this past weekend. I

> also stopped next to a

> > > car at a stoplight and exchanged words with the

> driver after he cut me

> > > off. This is totally not my typical behavior. My

> girlfriend was the

> > > one who actually noticed both events and

> commented on this. Is this

> > > normal?

> > >

> > > Also how long would you say it takes for testim

> to absorb into your

> > > body? I work out 5 days a week during my lunch

> hour 1:30p to 2:30p.

> > > I apply the testim around 7:30am. I sweat

> profusely and during my

> > > workout on Friday I was dripping the sticky

> mixture of sweat and

> > > testim? off my shoulders and upper arms. I always

> shower after my

> > > workout around 2:30p.

> > >

> > > Is the 6-7 hours between 7:30am and 1:30p-2:30p a

> sufficient amount of

> > > time for the testim to absorb before working out

> (sweating) and

> > > showering?

> > >

> > > Rob

> > >

> >

> > 

> >

>

>

>

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Dave how high are your levels on 10 grams if you only went up 150 it's not

working for you and you need to switch to shots startind with 100 mgs / wk.

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Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: testim testimonial

>

> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:30 PM

> Rob,

>

> I'd hate to rain on your parade, but you need to get your

> levels tested before you come to any conclusions. I've been

> on it for 9 months at 2 tube/ day and it's barely raised me

> 150 points.

> These things have a huge placebo effect.  I hope I'm

> wrong and that it's working out for you.  But you

> wouldn't be alone.  My doctors have to change my

> placebos regularly ;)

>

> Dave

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I'm on day 4 of the testim and I'm surprised at how

> quickly it seems

> > to be working.  I didn't feel the normal morning

> fatigue that I

> > normally do this morning and I seem to be much more

> focused (at work)

> > than I have been in months.  Also my libido is

> through the roof.  I

> > didn't need the viagara at all this past weekend and

> my girlfriend

> > commented on how the odor was like a faint cologne.

> >

> > The one thing of concern that I noticed was an

> increase in aggression.

> >  I got into a minor spat with a lady at the

> grocery store because she

> > cut me off with her cart this past weekend.  I

> also stopped next to a

> > car at a stoplight and exchanged words with the driver

> after he cut me

> > off.  This is totally not my typical

> behavior.  My girlfriend was the

> > one who actually noticed both events and commented on

> this.   Is this

> > normal?

> >

> > Also how long would you say it takes for testim to

> absorb into your

> > body?  I work out 5 days a week during my lunch

> hour 1:30p to 2:30p.

> > I apply the testim around 7:30am.  I sweat

> profusely and during my

> > workout on Friday I was dripping the sticky mixture of

> sweat and

> > testim? off my shoulders and upper arms.  I

> always shower after my

> > workout around 2:30p.

> >

> > Is the 6-7 hours between 7:30am and 1:30p-2:30p a

> sufficient amount of

> > time for the testim to absorb before working out

> (sweating) and

> > showering?

> >

> > Rob

> >

>

>

>

>

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Last test was 405 or 425. I can't remember. Up from 275.

I know I need shots. Doc won't give them to me while I have symptoms of

gynecomastia. But IMO, THAT is due to the fact that the same doc has me on too

much T4 without addressing my adrenals.

I lowered my T4 and I'm getting some relief. Plus I started on isocort just

yesterday.

>

> Dave how high are your levels on 10 grams if you only went up 150 it's not

working for you and you need to switch to shots startind with 100 mgs / wk.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

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Dam Testosterone dose not cause gyno it's Estradiol in men that dose this.

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Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: testim testimonial

>

> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 3:59 PM

> Last test was 405 or 425.  I

> can't remember.  Up from 275.

> I know I need shots.  Doc won't give them to me while

> I have symptoms of gynecomastia.  But IMO, THAT is due

> to the fact that the same doc has me on too much T4 without

> addressing my adrenals.

> I lowered my T4 and I'm getting some relief.  Plus I

> started on isocort just yesterday. 

>

>

>

> >

> > Dave how high are your levels on 10 grams if you only

> went up 150 it's not working for you and you need to switch

> to shots startind with 100 mgs / wk.

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

> >

>

>

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Hi ,

I noticed a similar thing when I first started on TRT. With me anyway I

don't think it was so much aggression as I just stopped being the helpless

victim. I finally stood up for myself. Before I just didn't have the

emotional energy. Brett

testim testimonial

> Hi,

>

> I'm on day 4 of the testim and I'm surprised at how quickly it seems

> to be working. I didn't feel the normal morning fatigue that I

> normally do this morning and I seem to be much more focused (at work)

> than I have been in months. Also my libido is through the roof. I

> didn't need the viagara at all this past weekend and my girlfriend

> commented on how the odor was like a faint cologne.

>

> The one thing of concern that I noticed was an increase in aggression.

> I got into a minor spat with a lady at the grocery store because she

> cut me off with her cart this past weekend. I also stopped next to a

> car at a stoplight and exchanged words with the driver after he cut me

> off. This is totally not my typical behavior. My girlfriend was the

> one who actually noticed both events and commented on this. Is this

> normal?

>

> Also how long would you say it takes for testim to absorb into your

> body? I work out 5 days a week during my lunch hour 1:30p to 2:30p.

> I apply the testim around 7:30am. I sweat profusely and during my

> workout on Friday I was dripping the sticky mixture of sweat and

> testim? off my shoulders and upper arms. I always shower after my

> workout around 2:30p.

>

> Is the 6-7 hours between 7:30am and 1:30p-2:30p a sufficient amount of

> time for the testim to absorb before working out (sweating) and

> showering?

>

> Rob

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