Re: Re: Need opinion of new labs

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And his E2 was fine before going on TRT.

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Phil

> From: wjj1234 <wjj1234@...>

> Subject: Re: Need opinion of new labs

>

> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 11:21 PM

> I'm 53 and I would happily give up

> TRT if I could have your total test level naturally. 

> Estrogen is another matter altogether and appears to be

> something that needs to be addressed.  Unfortunately,

> most docs do not have much experience in dealing with

> estrogen levels in men... Testosterone is not the fix-all

> that people often think.  Seriously, there are a lot of

> younger men too who would love to have your test and free

> test levels.  W

>

>

> >

> > > From: cibkos22 <no_reply >

> > > Subject: Need opinion of new labs

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 3:10 PM

> > > Hi Phil,

> > >

> > > I wanted to post some labs and get your

> opinion. 

> > > Fifty year old male.  Complaints include

> difficulty

> > > losing weight, loss of muscle tone and

> moodiness(short

> > > tempered).  Sexual desire and performance has

> slightly

> > > decreased but still very functional.

> > >

> > > 12/9/10  No supplements or hormones taken at

> this

> > > time

> > > FreeT 8.9 (6.8-21.5)

> > > Total T  561  (280-800)

> > > DHT  11  (30-85)

> > > Dhea 266  (44.3-331.0)

> > > Estradiol   21.9  (7.6-42.6)

> > > Free T3  2.7 (2.0-4.4)

> > > Vit D 28.4(32.0-100) and B12 372(211-946)

> > >

> > > New Labs 1/27/11 -after taking 50mg Testosterone

> > > Cypionate/50mg Dhea/compounded SRT3/T4(equiv-1gr

> Armour) Vit

> > > D10,000Iu and 5000mcg B12

> > > Free T  34.2  (7.2-24.0)

> > > Total T  831 (193-740) Don't know why the

> reference

> > > number changed from above -same lab - LabCorp.

> > > DHT 37  (30-85)

> > > Dhea  487.3  (44.3-331.0)

> > > Estradiol  47.1  (7.6-42.6)

> > > FT3 2.8 (2.0-4.4)No change from above values on

> the

> > > compounded meds so Dr. changed to 60mg Armour-I

> know that

> > > compounded meds are notoriously weak.

> > > No Vit D or B12 tested this time.

> > >

> > > Feeling a little better on meds although no

> change in

> > > weight loss.  Muscle tone does seems to be

> making some

> > > improvement.  Mood improvement was very

> noticeable at

> > > beginning of treatment but has now returned to as

> it was

> > > before.  Slight changes in sexual desire.

> > >

> > > Dr. has just increased T to 75mg/week.  Made

> the

> > > changes in thyroid meds and said that everything

> else looked

> > > fine.  Did not appear to be converting to

> > > Estrogen.  Labs do show to be making some

> improvement

> > > but was concerned about the increase in DHT and

> Estradiol,

> > > even after his comments.  Also, what about the

> > > Dhea??  Would appreciate your opinion. 

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Cal

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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