Re: Think Twice Before Taking Statins

[Guest guest]

Now this for me is a problem I was on SIMVASTATIN a generic to Zocor. The first

month on 40 mgs I suffered from Joint pain Dr. told me it's from being in a coma

17 weeks not the meds. In the next 60 days it got so bad I could not take it

and was asking for pain meds. Dr. lower the dose to 20 mgs it got better but

never went away. I have for the last 20 months been trying to get exercise to

build my muscles back up and I am good going to the gym for about 5 weeks then I

end up off for 3 weeks this has been going on like this and I feel I am not

getting any stronger fast enough.

Now 4 weeks ago my back and hips started hurting so I stopped taking the

simvastatin and in about 2 weeks my pain was all most gone.

So I called the Heart Dr. he said I had blockages going to my heart and I need

to be on them meds so he switched me to Crestor 5mgs so far no pain.

I am going to the gym this morning for the first time in 3 weeks. So what am I

to do I am in between a rock and a hard place. Dam if I do and Dammed if I

don't.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Think Twice Before Taking Statins

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:30 AM

> http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/rhabdomyolysis-lawsuits-598/

>

> I personally know too many whose health has declined

> because of these drugs.  If your cholesterol is high,

> yes, get your testosterone levels checked, but also your

> thyroid levels, especially your Free T3.  If that is

> less than half the range, that might be your problem.

>

> Barb

>

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[Guest guest]

Phil, didn't you say your cholesterol levels were fine? Docs only push statins

because the pharmaceutical reps give them studies (done by the pharmaceuticals)

that say they're wonderful. It is protocol that anyone who had bypass surgery

should be on a statin, but if you ask for concrete proof why? You will not got

a logical answer. How would it sound if he said because the pharmaceutical

selling it said so. Isn't that a huge conflict of interest?

You have to make your own decision of whom to listen to regarding your health.

I'm a rebel so have chosen meds like Armour/Erfa and testosterone for hubby,

which as most here know, you have to fight for. His problems started when he

was put on a beta blocker for high BP and started spiraling downhill.

Apparently these induce hypothyroidism in some, because they can cause rT3. He

was starting to sleep all the time and getting dumber and dumber and I thought

he'd burn the house down if I weren't watching him all the time. So I weaned

him off and looked for other answers. I do not trust any pharmaceuticals.

JMHO,

Barb

>

> > From: Barb <baba@...>

> > Subject: Think Twice Before Taking Statins

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:30 AM

> > http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/rhabdomyolysis-lawsuits-598/

> >

> > I personally know too many whose health has declined

> > because of these drugs.  If your cholesterol is high,

> > yes, get your testosterone levels checked, but also your

> > thyroid levels, especially your Free T3.  If that is

> > less than half the range, that might be your problem.

> >

> > Barb

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yep I hear you louid and clear but I feel as long as I don't have a problem with

the sides from them I will take them. This way I am safe not sorry I am mad

about having to be on a beta blocker.

In the hosp. they gave me an Ablation they put you under and shock your heat to

get it to beat right having open heart bypass surgery they have to stop your

heart for a time and when they start it up again some times it needs an Ablation

to get it to beat right. My Ablation worked great and they took me off beta

blocker meds.

But dam if when I was put on the theripy ward they miss read my meds and put me

back on it. I was on it about a week when my wife cought this and told them I

am off this med. They called the Dr. he got dam mad they did this but off it my

heart was beating Ok.

Now they let me out of the hosp. give my wife a list of meds I needed and they

put the beta blocker back on the dam list but the name was a generic and my wife

did not see this. Three months later I see my Heart Dr. and he was mad as hell

now I have to take this because coming off it my heart beats to fast. And I

can't get an Ablation again.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Re: Think Twice Before Taking Statins

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 11:04 AM

> Phil, didn't you say your cholesterol

> levels were fine?  Docs only push statins because the

> pharmaceutical reps give them studies (done by the

> pharmaceuticals) that say they're wonderful.  It is

> protocol that anyone who had bypass surgery should be on a

> statin, but if you ask for concrete proof why?  You

> will not got a logical answer.  How would it sound if

> he said because the pharmaceutical selling it said so. 

> Isn't that a huge conflict of interest?

>

> You have to make your own decision of whom to listen to

> regarding your health.  I'm a rebel so have chosen meds

> like Armour/Erfa and testosterone for hubby, which as most

> here know, you have to fight for.  His problems started

> when he was put on a beta blocker for high BP and started

> spiraling downhill.  Apparently these induce

> hypothyroidism in some, because they can cause rT3.  He

> was starting to sleep all the time and getting dumber and

> dumber and I thought he'd burn the house down if I weren't

> watching him all the time.  So I weaned him off and

> looked for other answers.  I do not trust any

> pharmaceuticals.

>

> JMHO,

> Barb

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: Barb <baba@...>

> > > Subject: Think Twice Before Taking

> Statins

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:30 AM

> > > http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/rhabdomyolysis-lawsuits-598/

> > >

> > > I personally know too many whose health has

> declined

> > > because of these drugs.  If your cholesterol is

> high,

> > > yes, get your testosterone levels checked, but

> also your

> > > thyroid levels, especially your Free T3.  If

> that is

> > > less than half the range, that might be your

> problem.

> > >

> > > Barb

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I have a question for Barb. My husband had bypass surgery in 2001. He is taking

Metoprolol and Toprol. I am ashamed that I never researched this when he

started. Personally, I don't think that he needs either. He will listen to me if

I tell him to quit taking them, but I feel like I have to give him something to

take their place, ie a natural supplement or vitamin. He has never had high

blood pressure. His cholesterol seems to be under control w/Low carb diet.

Please, your thoughts. Thanks, Pati

(sorry, I know that I'm off topic here)

>

> Phil, didn't you say your cholesterol levels were fine? Docs only push

statins because the pharmaceutical reps give them studies (done by the

pharmaceuticals) that say they're wonderful. It is protocol that anyone who had

bypass surgery should be on a statin, but if you ask for concrete proof why?

You will not got a logical answer. How would it sound if he said because the

pharmaceutical selling it said so. Isn't that a huge conflict of interest?

>

> You have to make your own decision of whom to listen to regarding your health.

I'm a rebel so have chosen meds like Armour/Erfa and testosterone for hubby,

which as most here know, you have to fight for. His problems started when he

was put on a beta blocker for high BP and started spiraling downhill.

Apparently these induce hypothyroidism in some, because they can cause rT3. He

was starting to sleep all the time and getting dumber and dumber and I thought

he'd burn the house down if I weren't watching him all the time. So I weaned

him off and looked for other answers. I do not trust any pharmaceuticals.

>

> JMHO,

> Barb

[Guest guest]

Wait, he doesn't have high BP? Then why the beta blockers? They are also used

for arrhythmias. Then again, that can be caused by low or high thyroid. I would

want to know if there was a medical REASON for the drug, so that you could

address the cause or use something natural. I would not stop any pharmaceutical

cold turkey; everything should be slowly weaned, but you do need to ask the doc

WHY he's on the drugs.

> >

> > Phil, didn't you say your cholesterol levels were fine? Docs only push

statins because the pharmaceutical reps give them studies (done by the

pharmaceuticals) that say they're wonderful. It is protocol that anyone who had

bypass surgery should be on a statin, but if you ask for concrete proof why?

You will not got a logical answer. How would it sound if he said because the

pharmaceutical selling it said so. Isn't that a huge conflict of interest?

> >

> > You have to make your own decision of whom to listen to regarding your

health. I'm a rebel so have chosen meds like Armour/Erfa and testosterone for

hubby, which as most here know, you have to fight for. His problems started

when he was put on a beta blocker for high BP and started spiraling downhill.

Apparently these induce hypothyroidism in some, because they can cause rT3. He

was starting to sleep all the time and getting dumber and dumber and I thought

he'd burn the house down if I weren't watching him all the time. So I weaned

him off and looked for other answers. I do not trust any pharmaceuticals.

> >

> > JMHO,

> > Barb

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Barb, No he has NEVER had high blood pressure or any arhythmia. Matter of

fact, he had to insist on a cath because he passed his stress test with flying

colors. Turned out to be a 90% blockage and ended up w/quad bypass. I think drs

just do whatever the drug reps tell them! He is due to go back for his annual

check up, I am hoping that he will change doctors. Either way, I will go with

him. Pari

> > >

> > > Phil, didn't you say your cholesterol levels were fine? Docs only push

statins because the pharmaceutical reps give them studies (done by the

pharmaceuticals) that say they're wonderful. It is protocol that anyone who had

bypass surgery should be on a statin, but if you ask for concrete proof why?

You will not got a logical answer. How would it sound if he said because the

pharmaceutical selling it said so. Isn't that a huge conflict of interest?

> > >

> > > You have to make your own decision of whom to listen to regarding your

health. I'm a rebel so have chosen meds like Armour/Erfa and testosterone for

hubby, which as most here know, you have to fight for. His problems started

when he was put on a beta blocker for high BP and started spiraling downhill.

Apparently these induce hypothyroidism in some, because they can cause rT3. He

was starting to sleep all the time and getting dumber and dumber and I thought

he'd burn the house down if I weren't watching him all the time. So I weaned

him off and looked for other answers. I do not trust any pharmaceuticals.

> > >

> > > JMHO,

> > > Barb

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I feel a stress test is a waste for time and money I had my stress test and

nothing showed up my Dr. use a bad picture to get BCBS to approve a 24 bit scan

this showed I had 2 blockages when the did the bypass surgery they found both

were 99% blocked. Now I am going on 2 yrs and what do they order a stress test

aging to check my heart. It's called a " Nuclear Imaging Stress Test " I read

this is = to 20 some Xrays. Then the next week I do a 2D Echo test.

I feel when it comes to my heart I am stock with what the Dr.'s tell me Drug

Reps or not.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> Subject: Re: Think Twice Before Taking Statins

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 5:22 PM

> Thanks Barb, No he has NEVER had high

> blood pressure or any arhythmia. Matter of fact, he had to

> insist on a cath because he passed his stress test with

> flying colors. Turned out to be a 90% blockage and ended up

> w/quad bypass. I think drs just do whatever the drug reps

> tell them! He is due to go back for his annual check up, I

> am hoping that he will change doctors. Either way, I will go

> with him.  Pari

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Phil, didn't you say your cholesterol levels

> were fine?  Docs only push statins because the

> pharmaceutical reps give them studies (done by the

> pharmaceuticals) that say they're wonderful.  It is

> protocol that anyone who had bypass surgery should be on a

> statin, but if you ask for concrete proof why?  You

> will not got a logical answer.  How would it sound if

> he said because the pharmaceutical selling it said so. 

> Isn't that a huge conflict of interest?

> > > >

> > > > You have to make your own decision of whom

> to listen to regarding your health.  I'm a rebel so

> have chosen meds like Armour/Erfa and testosterone for

> hubby, which as most here know, you have to fight for. 

> His problems started when he was put on a beta blocker for

> high BP and started spiraling downhill.  Apparently

> these induce hypothyroidism in some, because they can cause

> rT3.  He was starting to sleep all the time and getting

> dumber and dumber and I thought he'd burn the house down if

> I weren't watching him all the time.  So I weaned him

> off and looked for other answers.  I do not trust any

> pharmaceuticals.

> > > >

> > > > JMHO,

> > > > Barb

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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