Re: T cypionate / water retention

[Guest guest]

Yes going on TRT and getting your levels up you can hold water but it can be

from your Estradiol levels going up to high check this. You need to keep them at

about 20 pg/ml.

When I went on TRT from day one I had swelling in my hands and feet my Dr. gave

me a water pill that I took every 3 days.

•Triamterene/HCTZ 37.5/25 mgs. every 3 days.

But I was on this long before I knew about high levels of Estradiol when my

levels of Estradiol go up and I take more Arimidex to being it down I can lose

10 lbs of water.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: T cypionate / water retention

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:48 AM

> I've been on T cypionate injections

> now for about 3 weeks. I'm feeling much better than when I

> was on the compounded T. In this 3 weeks time though, I've

> put on 10 lbs., probably water retention. Is this my body

> getting use to the T cyp and will slow down, or will the

> increase in retention continue?

>

> Should I start using a diuretic? Using the Tcyp. is the

> only thing that has changed with myself in the last few

> weeks. I'd like to think that some of the weight is muscle

> due to I've been lifting for several months now and possibly

> I'm responding the the Tcyp.

>

> I'll be going for blood tests in 2 wks. Would having

> Aldosterone and renin tested shed any light on this?

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I have been on TRT for 3 years and no one had ever checked my Estrodiol levels.

Just 2 months ago I found out my E was through the roof. Since then I have

started on Arimidex and as soon as I started I have seen weight/puffyness coming

off of me. I also think I am urinating more... but that could be because I

purposely upped my water intake.

Short story long - like Phil said make sure you get your E tested.

You want to ask for a sensitive Estrodiol... make sure you say sensitive...

(right Phil?)

Good luck...

P.S. Then again you may just be hitting the weights like a monster in the gym

now that your levels are where they should have been!

>

> I've been on T cypionate injections now for about 3 weeks. I'm feeling much

better than when I was on the compounded T. In this 3 weeks time though, I've

put on 10 lbs., probably water retention. Is this my body getting use to the T

cyp and will slow down, or will the increase in retention continue?

>

> Should I start using a diuretic? Using the Tcyp. is the only thing that has

changed with myself in the last few weeks. I'd like to think that some of the

weight is muscle due to I've been lifting for several months now and possibly

I'm responding the the Tcyp.

>

> I'll be going for blood tests in 2 wks. Would having Aldosterone and renin

tested shed any light on this?

>

[Guest guest]

Well I do absolutely know since starting Tcyp my recovery time between workouts

has improved considerably. I'm now every other day with the wo's. Prior to the

Tcyp I needed 2-3 days between wo's. my sleep has improved some, but could be

better.

I now can view my situation as exciting, with recovery back to health as a

possibility. I have adrenal and thyroid to work on. HAN and Dr.O will get me

there.

> >

> > I've been on T cypionate injections now for about 3 weeks. I'm feeling much

better than when I was on the compounded T. In this 3 weeks time though, I've

put on 10 lbs., probably water retention. Is this my body getting use to the T

cyp and will slow down, or will the increase in retention continue?

> >

> > Should I start using a diuretic? Using the Tcyp. is the only thing that has

changed with myself in the last few weeks. I'd like to think that some of the

weight is muscle due to I've been lifting for several months now and possibly

I'm responding the the Tcyp.

> >

> > I'll be going for blood tests in 2 wks. Would having Aldosterone and renin

tested shed any light on this?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

One step at a time... but sounds like you are already responding nicely to the

therapy.

I am no professional... just another patient... but I would say diuretics are

not the way to go. Here's my thinking, you would only be treating the symptoms

and not the cause...and before going too far gaining 10lbs in 3 weeks isn't a

giant leap... T could have stimulated your eating habits, could have slightly

raised your E (but possibly not worthy of needing management), you could have

added 1 or 2 lbs of muscle from the workouts.... all of this coupled together

could have brought your weight up and it may be nothing strange at all..

However, all that said, if the weight gain is all water weight due to high E you

want to treat that and not the symptoms of the E. High E can cause a host of

other issues so make sure you know your levels...

Short story long Test the E. I really wish all docs took a E reading prior to

starting therapy as a baseline

my 2 cents

> > >

> > > I've been on T cypionate injections now for about 3 weeks. I'm feeling

much better than when I was on the compounded T. In this 3 weeks time though,

I've put on 10 lbs., probably water retention. Is this my body getting use to

the T cyp and will slow down, or will the increase in retention continue?

> > >

> > > Should I start using a diuretic? Using the Tcyp. is the only thing that

has changed with myself in the last few weeks. I'd like to think that some of

the weight is muscle due to I've been lifting for several months now and

possibly I'm responding the the Tcyp.

> > >

> > > I'll be going for blood tests in 2 wks. Would having Aldosterone and renin

tested shed any light on this?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Some things I see that changed in my body after having heart bypass sugary are I

can put on water weight very fast now I am not as strong as I was before the

sugary. How could I be after being out cold 17 weeks and 5 surgery's. It goes

in cycles and last night was the end of one of them I was up every hr. going to

the bath room. I asked me heart Dr. about this and he said it's the way my body

is acting and it take a good 2 yrs for me to heal 100%. So he told me keep

track of my BP and heart rate. I can lose 10lbs in water over night. I have to

lose weight I do good then have a set back and can't get to the gym or exercise.

I am just coming off a set back 5 dam weeks long story but today I am going back

to the gym.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: heyfritzy <haverhillguy@...>

> Subject: Re: T cypionate / water retention

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 6:57 PM

> I have been on TRT for 3 years and no

> one had ever checked my Estrodiol

> levels.   Just 2 months ago I found out my E

> was through the roof.  Since then I have started on

> Arimidex and as soon as I started I have seen

> weight/puffyness coming off of me.  I also think I am

> urinating more... but that could be because I purposely

> upped my water intake.

>

> Short story long - like Phil said make sure you get your E

> tested.

>

> You want to ask for a sensitive Estrodiol... make sure you

> say sensitive... (right Phil?)

>

> Good luck...

>

> P.S. Then again you may just be hitting the weights like a

> monster in the gym now that your levels are where they

> should have been!

>

>

> >

> > I've been on T cypionate injections now for about 3

> weeks. I'm feeling much better than when I was on the

> compounded T. In this 3 weeks time though, I've put on 10

> lbs., probably water retention. Is this my body getting use

> to the T cyp and will slow down, or will the increase in

> retention continue?

> >

> > Should I start using a diuretic? Using the Tcyp. is

> the only thing that has changed with myself in the last few

> weeks. I'd like to think that some of the weight is muscle

> due to I've been lifting for several months now and possibly

> I'm responding the the Tcyp.

> >

> > I'll be going for blood tests in 2 wks. Would having

> Aldosterone and renin tested shed any light on this?

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil, It's good to see that you're getting back to the gym. This is something

you love. same with me. I'm starting to see results with myself. Lifting is not

a chore anymore, it's a renewed passion.

Please excuse my ignorance, when a person retains water, do they first notice it

in their hands an feet? I see none of this with myself. My upper body seems a

lot fuller. I've put on 12 lbs now in 3 weeks. I'm due for blood testing in 2

weeks. I had a problem with naturally low E2, but I suspect I broke out of that

and through the sweet spot. I have NO issues with nipple sensitivity, anxiety,

etc.

It was suggested by someone on another forum that since my T has been optimized

somewhat, I'm putting back on the muscle that I had lost, at a rapid pace. I can

say that I don't need 2-3 days between wo's anymore. 1 day does me fine

presently. There will come a point when I will have to rethink things as I am

somewhat of a " hardgainer " .

> > >

> > > I've been on T cypionate injections now for about 3

> > weeks. I'm feeling much better than when I was on the

> > compounded T. In this 3 weeks time though, I've put on 10

> > lbs., probably water retention. Is this my body getting use

> > to the T cyp and will slow down, or will the increase in

> > retention continue?

> > >

> > > Should I start using a diuretic? Using the Tcyp. is

> > the only thing that has changed with myself in the last few

> > weeks. I'd like to think that some of the weight is muscle

> > due to I've been lifting for several months now and possibly

> > I'm responding the the Tcyp.

> > >

> > > I'll be going for blood tests in 2 wks. Would having

> > Aldosterone and renin tested shed any light on this?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I felt the water gain in my hands and feet and still today when I hold water

it's in my hands and feet first. I did not make it to the gym yesterday dam if

my grand daughter 4 yrs old broke her wrist and I ended up baby sitting the

others. So my Daughter could be with her at the hosp. with my wife. I am told

not to go to hosp.'s after having heart sugary. I need to get there and start

back the weight is coming back on me very fast. I did walk on my treadmill but

can't do to much of that my knee's hurt.

You will put back on muscle when your T levels go back up they suck up the

testosterone like mad they need it to be healthy.

I am so happy your doing better and back in the gym.

Just remember this is a slow process and you need to go back to your life slow

try not to over do it. So you don't set your self back I did this a lot.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: Re: T cypionate / water retention

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 10:00 PM

> Phil, It's good to see that you're

> getting back to the gym. This is something you love. same

> with me. I'm starting to see results with myself. Lifting is

> not a chore anymore, it's a renewed passion.

>

> Please excuse my ignorance, when a person retains water, do

> they first notice it in their hands an feet? I see none of

> this with myself. My upper body seems a lot fuller. I've put

> on 12 lbs now in 3 weeks. I'm due for blood testing in 2

> weeks. I had a problem with naturally low E2, but I suspect

> I broke out of that and through the sweet spot. I have NO

> issues with nipple sensitivity, anxiety, etc.

>

> It was suggested by someone on another forum that since my

> T has been optimized somewhat, I'm putting back on the

> muscle that I had lost, at a rapid pace. I can say that I

> don't need 2-3 days between wo's anymore. 1 day does me fine

> presently. There will come a point when I will have to

> rethink things as I am somewhat of a " hardgainer " .

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I've been on T cypionate injections now for

> about 3

> > > weeks. I'm feeling much better than when I was on

> the

> > > compounded T. In this 3 weeks time though, I've

> put on 10

> > > lbs., probably water retention. Is this my body

> getting use

> > > to the T cyp and will slow down, or will the

> increase in

> > > retention continue?

> > > >

> > > > Should I start using a diuretic? Using the

> Tcyp. is

> > > the only thing that has changed with myself in

> the last few

> > > weeks. I'd like to think that some of the weight

> is muscle

> > > due to I've been lifting for several months now

> and possibly

> > > I'm responding the the Tcyp.

> > > >

> > > > I'll be going for blood tests in 2 wks.

> Would having

> > > Aldosterone and renin tested shed any light on

> this?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Phil, Sorry to hear about your grand daughter. How's your son in law doing? As

always, thanks for the info.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been on T cypionate injections now for

> > about 3

> > > > weeks. I'm feeling much better than when I was on

> > the

> > > > compounded T. In this 3 weeks time though, I've

> > put on 10

> > > > lbs., probably water retention. Is this my body

> > getting use

> > > > to the T cyp and will slow down, or will the

> > increase in

> > > > retention continue?

> > > > >

> > > > > Should I start using a diuretic? Using the

> > Tcyp. is

> > > > the only thing that has changed with myself in

> > the last few

> > > > weeks. I'd like to think that some of the weight

> > is muscle

> > > > due to I've been lifting for several months now

> > and possibly

> > > > I'm responding the the Tcyp.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'll be going for blood tests in 2 wks.

> > Would having

> > > > Aldosterone and renin tested shed any light on

> > this?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

We are always worried about him but he is back to work and says he feels fine.

She has a cast on her arm up to her shoulder and is so happy about it we all had

to draw a something on it.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: Re: T cypionate / water retention

>

> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 9:17 AM

> Phil, Sorry to hear about your grand

> daughter. How's your son in law doing? As always, thanks for

> the info.

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I've been on T cypionate

> injections now for

> > > about 3

> > > > > weeks. I'm feeling much better than

> when I was on

> > > the

> > > > > compounded T. In this 3 weeks time

> though, I've

> > > put on 10

> > > > > lbs., probably water retention. Is this

> my body

> > > getting use

> > > > > to the T cyp and will slow down, or

> will the

> > > increase in

> > > > > retention continue?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Should I start using a diuretic?

> Using the

> > > Tcyp. is

> > > > > the only thing that has changed with

> myself in

> > > the last few

> > > > > weeks. I'd like to think that some of

> the weight

> > > is muscle

> > > > > due to I've been lifting for several

> months now

> > > and possibly

> > > > > I'm responding the the Tcyp.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'll be going for blood tests in 2

> wks.

> > > Would having

> > > > > Aldosterone and renin tested shed any

> light on

> > > this?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

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