Re: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

April 12, 2010

No not daily HCG. The HGC on the 5th and 6th day after the Test

injection.

In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:41:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

no_reply writes:

Is the hcg daily?

--- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

(mailto: ) , gviceman77@., gvi

>

> I went to a DR from an Age Management Center for one stop shopping for

all

> my issues.

>

> Rather than getting one course of action from the ENDO, another from the

> URO, and yet another from the primary care DR.

>

> I am currently on Testosterone injections (weekly .75 mg) ;

>

> HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

>

> DHEA 50 mg daily

>

> I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara for trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> ago by my primary DR..

>

> I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due to an head / neck accident 10

> years ago.

>

> My DR. through numerous blood tests and saliva test concluded that I was

> suffering for adrenal fatigue.

>

> My doctor also suggested putting me on HGH for 3 to 6 months.

>

> My DR. believes that the optimum Testosterone level for me is between

800

> an 950.

>

> I am 51 in pretty good physical condition, I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> weekly plus cardio. Just trying to loose some of the belly fat.

>

> Any comments about this treatment???

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

April 12, 2010

Is the hcg daily?

>

> I went to a DR from an Age Management Center for one stop shopping for all

> my issues.

>

> Rather than getting one course of action from the ENDO, another from the

> URO, and yet another from the primary care DR.

>

> I am currently on Testosterone injections (weekly .75 mg) ;

>

> HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

>

> DHEA 50 mg daily

>

> I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara for trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> ago by my primary DR..

>

> I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due to an head / neck accident 10

> years ago.

>

> My DR. through numerous blood tests and saliva test concluded that I was

> suffering for adrenal fatigue.

>

> My doctor also suggested putting me on HGH for 3 to 6 months.

>

> My DR. believes that the optimum Testosterone level for me is between 800

> an 950.

>

> I am 51 in pretty good physical condition, I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> weekly plus cardio. Just trying to loose some of the belly fat.

>

> Any comments about this treatment????

>

April 12, 2010

Ok i figured. Just started hcg myself. I'm wondering if I should lower my hcg to

20 like yourself. Did 25 and felt like it was too much. Had slight anxiety.

>

> No not daily HCG. The HGC on the 5th and 6th day after the Test

> injection.

>

> In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:41:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> no_reply writes:

>

> Is the hcg daily?

>

> --- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> (mailto: ) , gviceman77@, gvi

> >

> > I went to a DR from an Age Management Center for one stop shopping for

> all

> > my issues.

> >

> > Rather than getting one course of action from the ENDO, another from the

> > URO, and yet another from the primary care DR.

> >

> > I am currently on Testosterone injections (weekly .75 mg) ;

> >

> > HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

> >

> > DHEA 50 mg daily

> >

> > I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara for trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > ago by my primary DR..

> >

> > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due to an head / neck accident 10

> > years ago.

> >

> > My DR. through numerous blood tests and saliva test concluded that I was

> > suffering for adrenal fatigue.

> >

> > My doctor also suggested putting me on HGH for 3 to 6 months.

> >

> > My DR. believes that the optimum Testosterone level for me is between

> 800

> > an 950.

> >

> > I am 51 in pretty good physical condition, I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > weekly plus cardio. Just trying to loose some of the belly fat.

> >

> > Any comments about this treatment???

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

April 13, 2010

It sounds to me like your doing good how do you feel I have the same problems as

you but going on HGH I don't need Thyroid meds any more. I have to say it was a

bit of a job going on HGH. I need to adjust most of my meds down in dose it

makes your body work so much better. I now feel my T shots are to high I am

making a lot of E2 on HGH. You need to read my story and see if there are more

things you need to look at.

Do to all my problems with low hormones and only treating my low Testosterone

for the fist 23 yrs I ended up having to have heart by-pass sugary a yr ago last

Nov.

I dam near did not make it my heart Dr. feel my low IGF-1 levels over the yrs.

did my heart in. He has me on HGH for life so I don't have more heart problems.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239

I need Iron pills for life and my aldosterone and renin were low I could not

take the heat of summer and could not work out side in the yard. Now I am on

..1mgs of Florinef in the morning and I add Sea Salt to my water all day long.

Go to this link and read all the stuff about Hypopituitary Problems.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewforum.php?f=12

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: gviceman77@... <gviceman77@...>

> Subject: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

>

> Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 9:17 PM

>

> I went to a DR from an Age Management Center for one

> stop shopping for all

> my issues.

>

> Rather than getting one course of action from the

> ENDO, another from the

> URO, and yet another from the primary care DR.

>

> I am currently on Testosterone injections (weekly .75 mg) ;

>

> HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

>

> DHEA 50 mg daily

>

> I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara for

> trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> ago by my primary DR..

>

> I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due to an head /

> neck accident 10

> years ago.

>

> My DR. through numerous blood tests and saliva test

> concluded that I was

> suffering for adrenal fatigue.

>

> My doctor also suggested putting me on HGH for

> 3 to 6 months.

>

> My DR. believes that the optimum Testosterone level

> for me is between 800

> an 950.

>

> I am 51 in pretty good physical condition, I lift

> weights 3 to 4 times

> weekly plus cardio. Just trying to loose some of

> the belly fat.

>

> Any comments about this treatment????

>

April 13, 2010

It should not be if your on TRT. Go to Dr. 's site and read TRT: A Recipe

for Success and his HCG Update at www.allthingsmale.com

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: andrenym007 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

>

> Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 9:40 PM

> Is the hcg daily?

>

> >

> > I went to a DR from an Age Management Center for

> one stop shopping for all

> > my issues.

> >

> > Rather than getting one course of action from the

> ENDO, another from the

> > URO, and yet another from the primary care DR.

> >

> > I am currently on Testosterone injections (weekly .75

> mg) ;

> >

> > HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

> >

> > DHEA 50 mg daily

> >

> > I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara for

> trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > ago by my primary DR..

> >

> > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due to an head /

> neck accident 10

> > years ago.

> >

> > My DR. through numerous blood tests and saliva test

> concluded that I was

> > suffering for adrenal fatigue.

> >

> > My doctor also suggested putting me on HGH

> for 3 to 6 months.

> >

> > My DR. believes that the optimum Testosterone

> level for me is between 800

> > an 950.

> >

> > I am 51 in pretty good physical condition, I

> lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > weekly plus cardio. Just trying to loose some of

> the belly fat.

> >

> > Any comments about this treatment????

> >

April 13, 2010

In my case I eat up the T shot as fast as I take it. So I do my shots every 3

days and I was doing the HCG the 2 days each in between my T shots.

Going on HGH I had to shot my Thyroid meds Armour was on 4 grains / day now I am

fine off Armour. I needed to lower my dose of HCG and only do a shot the day

before my T shot. I see my Dr. Wed. and we will see if I need to lower my dose

on my T shots my E2 has been very high in the last 2 months and others on HGH

tell me they needed to lower there dose of T on HGH things got better. So my

thinking is my E2 is so high because my levels are very high now on my

Testosterone.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: gviceman77@... <gviceman77@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

>

> Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 10:13 PM

> No not daily HCG. The HGC

> on the 5th and 6th day after the Test

> injection.

>

> In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:41:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight

> Time,

> no_reply

> writes:

>

> Is the hcg daily?

>

> --- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> (mailto: )

> , gviceman77@., gvi

> >

> > I went to a DR from an Age Management Center for

> one stop shopping for

> all

> > my issues.

> >

> > Rather than getting one course of action from

> the ENDO, another from the

> > URO, and yet another from the primary care DR.

> >

> > I am currently on Testosterone injections (weekly .75

> mg) ;

> >

> > HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

> >

> > DHEA 50 mg daily

> >

> > I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara for

> trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > ago by my primary DR..

> >

> > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due to an head /

> neck accident 10

> > years ago.

> >

> > My DR. through numerous blood tests and saliva

> test concluded that I was

> > suffering for adrenal fatigue.

> >

> > My doctor also suggested putting me on HGH for 3

> to 6 months.

> >

> > My DR. believes that the optimum Testosterone

> level for me is between

> 800

> > an 950.

> >

> > I am 51 in pretty good physical condition, I

> lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > weekly plus cardio. Just trying to loose some of

> the belly fat.

> >

> > Any comments about this treatment???

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been removed]

> >

>

April 13, 2010

I would give it some time 25 on your needle is 250 IU's are you doing it subQ or

IM. I do mine IM so it works faster if your feeling like this try subQ.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: andrenym007 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

>

> Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 10:17 PM

> Ok i figured. Just started hcg

> myself. I'm wondering if I should lower my hcg to 20 like

> yourself. Did 25 and felt like it was too much. Had slight

> anxiety.

>

> >

> > No not daily HCG. The HGC on the 5th and

> 6th day after the Test

> > injection.

> >

> > In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:41:24 P.M. Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> > no_reply

> writes:

> >

> > Is the hcg daily?

> >

> > --- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > (mailto: )

> , gviceman77@, gvi

> > >

> > > I went to a DR from an Age Management

> Center for one stop shopping for

> > all

> > > my issues.

> > >

> > > Rather than getting one course of action from

> the ENDO, another from the

> > > URO, and yet another from the primary care

> DR.

> > >

> > > I am currently on Testosterone injections (weekly

> .75 mg) ;

> > >

> > > HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

> > >

> > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > >

> > > I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara for

> trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > ago by my primary DR..

> > >

> > > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due to an

> head / neck accident 10

> > > years ago.

> > >

> > > My DR. through numerous blood tests and

> saliva test concluded that I was

> > > suffering for adrenal fatigue.

> > >

> > > My doctor also suggested putting me on HGH for 3

> to 6 months.

> > >

> > > My DR. believes that the optimum Testosterone

> level for me is between

> > 800

> > > an 950.

> > >

> > > I am 51 in pretty good physical condition,

> I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > weekly plus cardio. Just trying to loose

> some of the belly fat.

> > >

> > > Any comments about this treatment???

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been removed]

> > >

> >

April 13, 2010

I put a call in to the doc because I want to be shore at what strength he mixed

the hcg. I think if you add 10ml solvent that it mixes to 1000iu per ml? If

that's the case I saw doc dump half the bottle of solvent in the trash so maybe

he mixed it at higher strength. I'm doing the shot's subQ. I had that feeling of

well being like you mention after the shot.

> > >

> > > No not daily HCG. The HGC on the 5th and

> > 6th day after the Test

> > > injection.

> > >

> > > In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:41:24 P.M. Eastern

> > Daylight Time,

> > > no_reply

> > writes:

> > >

> > > Is the hcg daily?

> > >

> > > --- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > (mailto: )

> > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > >

> > > > I went to a DR from an Age Management

> > Center for one stop shopping for

> > > all

> > > > my issues.

> > > >

> > > > Rather than getting one course of action from

> > the ENDO, another from the

> > > > URO, and yet another from the primary care

> > DR.

> > > >

> > > > I am currently on Testosterone injections (weekly

> > .75 mg) ;

> > > >

> > > > HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

> > > >

> > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > >

> > > > I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara for

> > trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > > ago by my primary DR..

> > > >

> > > > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due to an

> > head / neck accident 10

> > > > years ago.

> > > >

> > > > My DR. through numerous blood tests and

> > saliva test concluded that I was

> > > > suffering for adrenal fatigue.

> > > >

> > > > My doctor also suggested putting me on HGH for 3

> > to 6 months.

> > > >

> > > > My DR. believes that the optimum Testosterone

> > level for me is between

> > > 800

> > > > an 950.

> > > >

> > > > I am 51 in pretty good physical condition,

> > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > weekly plus cardio. Just trying to loose

> > some of the belly fat.

> > > >

> > > > Any comments about this treatment???

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> > been removed]

> > > >

> > >

April 13, 2010

If your using 10,000 IU's yes you mix it with 10mls. and it is 1,000 IU's per

ml. So to do a 250 IU's shot it would be on your needle .25 mls or CC's. The

guys buying from the ADC getting 2000 IU's you only mix this with 2mls. of the

Bac. water.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: andrenym007 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

>

> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 1:02 PM

> I put a call in to the doc because I

> want to be shore at what strength he mixed the hcg. I think

> if you add 10ml solvent that it mixes to 1000iu per ml? If

> that's the case I saw doc dump half the bottle of solvent in

> the trash so maybe he mixed it at higher strength. I'm doing

> the shot's subQ. I had that feeling of well being like you

> mention after the shot.

>

> > > >

> > > > No not daily HCG. The HGC on the 5th

> and

> > > 6th day after the Test

> > > > injection.

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:41:24 P.M.

> Eastern

> > > Daylight Time,

> > > > no_reply

> > > writes:

> > > >

> > > > Is the hcg daily?

> > > >

> > > > --- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > > (mailto: )

> > > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > > >

> > > > > I went to a DR from an Age

> Management

> > > Center for one stop shopping for

> > > > all

> > > > > my issues.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rather than getting one course of

> action from

> > > the ENDO, another from the

> > > > > URO, and yet another from the primary

> care

> > > DR.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am currently on Testosterone

> injections (weekly

> > > .75 mg) ;

> > > > >

> > > > > HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

> > > > >

> > > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > > >

> > > > > I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara

> for

> > > trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > > > ago by my primary DR..

> > > > >

> > > > > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due

> to an

> > > head / neck accident 10

> > > > > years ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > My DR. through numerous blood tests

> and

> > > saliva test concluded that I was

> > > > > suffering for adrenal fatigue.

> > > > >

> > > > > My doctor also suggested putting me on

> HGH for 3

> > > to 6 months.

> > > > >

> > > > > My DR. believes that the optimum

> Testosterone

> > > level for me is between

> > > > 800

> > > > > an 950.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am 51 in pretty good physical

> condition,

> > > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > > weekly plus cardio. Just trying to

> loose

> > > some of the belly fat.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any comments about this treatment???

>

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> have

> > > been removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

April 13, 2010

Well thankfully I called the doc because he mixed it with only 2ml of water and

that means I only take 5 units. I took 5 units on saturday and that's why I felt

a little anxious. That sounds right? 10,000iu mixed with 2ml water is 5000iu per

ml?

> > > > >

> > > > > No not daily HCG. The HGC on the 5th

> > and

> > > > 6th day after the Test

> > > > > injection.

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:41:24 P.M.

> > Eastern

> > > > Daylight Time,

> > > > > no_reply

> > > > writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > Is the hcg daily?

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > > > (mailto: )

> > > > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I went to a DR from an Age

> > Management

> > > > Center for one stop shopping for

> > > > > all

> > > > > > my issues.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rather than getting one course of

> > action from

> > > > the ENDO, another from the

> > > > > > URO, and yet another from the primary

> > care

> > > > DR.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am currently on Testosterone

> > injections (weekly

> > > > .75 mg) ;

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara

> > for

> > > > trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > > > > ago by my primary DR..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due

> > to an

> > > > head / neck accident 10

> > > > > > years ago.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My DR. through numerous blood tests

> > and

> > > > saliva test concluded that I was

> > > > > > suffering for adrenal fatigue.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My doctor also suggested putting me on

> > HGH for 3

> > > > to 6 months.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My DR. believes that the optimum

> > Testosterone

> > > > level for me is between

> > > > > 800

> > > > > > an 950.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am 51 in pretty good physical

> > condition,

> > > > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > > > weekly plus cardio. Just trying to

> > loose

> > > > some of the belly fat.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any comments about this treatment???

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> > have

> > > > been removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

April 13, 2010

I meant to say I took 25 units on saturday which equals 1250iu!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No not daily HCG. The HGC on the 5th

> > > and

> > > > > 6th day after the Test

> > > > > > injection.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:41:24 P.M.

> > > Eastern

> > > > > Daylight Time,

> > > > > > no_reply

> > > > > writes:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is the hcg daily?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > > > > (mailto: )

> > > > > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I went to a DR from an Age

> > > Management

> > > > > Center for one stop shopping for

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > my issues.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rather than getting one course of

> > > action from

> > > > > the ENDO, another from the

> > > > > > > URO, and yet another from the primary

> > > care

> > > > > DR.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am currently on Testosterone

> > > injections (weekly

> > > > > .75 mg) ;

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HCG (20 on the insulin syringe)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am also on Synthroid .1M and Antara

> > > for

> > > > > trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > > > > > ago by my primary DR..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR evidence) due

> > > to an

> > > > > head / neck accident 10

> > > > > > > years ago.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My DR. through numerous blood tests

> > > and

> > > > > saliva test concluded that I was

> > > > > > > suffering for adrenal fatigue.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My doctor also suggested putting me on

> > > HGH for 3

> > > > > to 6 months.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My DR. believes that the optimum

> > > Testosterone

> > > > > level for me is between

> > > > > > 800

> > > > > > > an 950.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am 51 in pretty good physical

> > > condition,

> > > > > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > > > > weekly plus cardio. Just trying to

> > > loose

> > > > > some of the belly fat.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any comments about this treatment???

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> > > have

> > > > > been removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

April 14, 2010

Wow I can't even figure out what dose you need to get 250 IU's of if you should

even use this. Do you still have the Bac. water if you do add 8 mls of water to

the vial slow then a .25 mls will = 250 IU's are you sure the HCG mixed you have

is 10,000 IU's not 2,000. What is the brand name of your HCG.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: andrenym007 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

>

> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 4:49 PM

> Well thankfully I called the doc

> because he mixed it with only 2ml of water and that means I

> only take 5 units. I took 5 units on saturday and that's why

> I felt a little anxious. That sounds right? 10,000iu mixed

> with 2ml water is 5000iu per ml?

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No not daily HCG. The HGC on

> the 5th

> > > and

> > > > > 6th day after the Test

> > > > > > injection.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2010

> 9:41:24 P.M.

> > > Eastern

> > > > > Daylight Time,

> > > > > > no_reply

> > > > > writes:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is the hcg daily?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > > > > (mailto: )

> > > > > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I went to a DR from an Age

> > > Management

> > > > > Center for one stop shopping for

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > my issues.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rather than getting one

> course of

> > > action from

> > > > > the ENDO, another from the

> > > > > > > URO, and yet another from the

> primary

> > > care

> > > > > DR.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am currently on

> Testosterone

> > > injections (weekly

> > > > > .75 mg) ;

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HCG (20 on the insulin

> syringe)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am also on Synthroid .1M

> and Antara

> > > for

> > > > > trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > > > > > ago by my primary DR..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR

> evidence) due

> > > to an

> > > > > head / neck accident 10

> > > > > > > years ago.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My DR. through numerous blood

> tests

> > > and

> > > > > saliva test concluded that I was

> > > > > > > suffering for adrenal

> fatigue.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My doctor also suggested

> putting me on

> > > HGH for 3

> > > > > to 6 months.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My DR. believes that the

> optimum

> > > Testosterone

> > > > > level for me is between

> > > > > > 800

> > > > > > > an 950.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am 51 in pretty good

> physical

> > > condition,

> > > > > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > > > > weekly plus cardio. Just

> trying to

> > > loose

> > > > > some of the belly fat.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any comments about this

> treatment???

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this

> message

> > > have

> > > > > been removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> have been

> > > removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

April 14, 2010

It's pregnyl , I figured it out. Here is a hcg dose calculator for those who

need it: http://hcgloss.net/calculators.html

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No not daily HCG. The HGC on

> > the 5th

> > > > and

> > > > > > 6th day after the Test

> > > > > > > injection.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2010

> > 9:41:24 P.M.

> > > > Eastern

> > > > > > Daylight Time,

> > > > > > > no_reply

> > > > > > writes:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is the hcg daily?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > > > > > (mailto: )

> > > > > > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I went to a DR from an Age

> > > > Management

> > > > > > Center for one stop shopping for

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > my issues.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rather than getting one

> > course of

> > > > action from

> > > > > > the ENDO, another from the

> > > > > > > > URO, and yet another from the

> > primary

> > > > care

> > > > > > DR.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am currently on

> > Testosterone

> > > > injections (weekly

> > > > > > .75 mg) ;

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > HCG (20 on the insulin

> > syringe)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am also on Synthroid .1M

> > and Antara

> > > > for

> > > > > > trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > > > > > > ago by my primary DR..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR

> > evidence) due

> > > > to an

> > > > > > head / neck accident 10

> > > > > > > > years ago.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My DR. through numerous blood

> > tests

> > > > and

> > > > > > saliva test concluded that I was

> > > > > > > > suffering for adrenal

> > fatigue.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My doctor also suggested

> > putting me on

> > > > HGH for 3

> > > > > > to 6 months.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My DR. believes that the

> > optimum

> > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > level for me is between

> > > > > > > 800

> > > > > > > > an 950.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am 51 in pretty good

> > physical

> > > > condition,

> > > > > > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > > > > > weekly plus cardio. Just

> > trying to

> > > > loose

> > > > > > some of the belly fat.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Any comments about this

> > treatment???

> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this

> > message

> > > > have

> > > > > > been removed]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> > have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

April 14, 2010

Well this dose for helping one to make a baby so it will not hurt you. I feel

you need to mix more Bac. water in it 8 mls. This way a .25 ml shot will be 250

IU's.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: andrenym007 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

>

> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 5:01 PM

> I meant to say I took 25 units on

> saturday which equals 1250iu!

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No not daily HCG. The HGC

> on the 5th

> > > > and

> > > > > > 6th day after the Test

> > > > > > > injection.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2010

> 9:41:24 P.M.

> > > > Eastern

> > > > > > Daylight Time,

> > > > > > > no_reply

> > > > > > writes:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is the hcg daily?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > > > > > (mailto: )

> > > > > > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I went to a DR from an

> Age

> > > > Management

> > > > > > Center for one stop shopping for

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > my issues.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rather than getting one

> course of

> > > > action from

> > > > > > the ENDO, another from the

> > > > > > > > URO, and yet another

> from the primary

> > > > care

> > > > > > DR.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am currently on

> Testosterone

> > > > injections (weekly

> > > > > > .75 mg) ;

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > HCG (20 on the insulin

> syringe)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am also on Synthroid

> .1M and Antara

> > > > for

> > > > > > trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > > > > > > ago by my primary DR..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am secondary Hypo (

> MIR evidence) due

> > > > to an

> > > > > > head / neck accident 10

> > > > > > > > years ago.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My DR. through numerous

> blood tests

> > > > and

> > > > > > saliva test concluded that I was

> > > > > > > > suffering for adrenal

> fatigue.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My doctor also suggested

> putting me on

> > > > HGH for 3

> > > > > > to 6 months.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My DR. believes that the

> optimum

> > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > level for me is between

> > > > > > > 800

> > > > > > > > an 950.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am 51 in pretty good

> physical

> > > > condition,

> > > > > > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > > > > > weekly plus cardio.

> Just trying to

> > > > loose

> > > > > > some of the belly fat.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Any comments about

> this treatment???

> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of

> this message

> > > > have

> > > > > > been removed]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this

> message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

April 14, 2010

Wouldn't you have to add 10ml water to make 250iu?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No not daily HCG. The HGC on

> > the 5th

> > > > and

> > > > > > 6th day after the Test

> > > > > > > injection.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2010

> > 9:41:24 P.M.

> > > > Eastern

> > > > > > Daylight Time,

> > > > > > > no_reply

> > > > > > writes:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is the hcg daily?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > > > > > (mailto: )

> > > > > > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I went to a DR from an Age

> > > > Management

> > > > > > Center for one stop shopping for

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > my issues.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rather than getting one

> > course of

> > > > action from

> > > > > > the ENDO, another from the

> > > > > > > > URO, and yet another from the

> > primary

> > > > care

> > > > > > DR.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am currently on

> > Testosterone

> > > > injections (weekly

> > > > > > .75 mg) ;

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > HCG (20 on the insulin

> > syringe)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am also on Synthroid .1M

> > and Antara

> > > > for

> > > > > > trigylcerides; ordered 5 years

> > > > > > > > ago by my primary DR..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am secondary Hypo ( MIR

> > evidence) due

> > > > to an

> > > > > > head / neck accident 10

> > > > > > > > years ago.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My DR. through numerous blood

> > tests

> > > > and

> > > > > > saliva test concluded that I was

> > > > > > > > suffering for adrenal

> > fatigue.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My doctor also suggested

> > putting me on

> > > > HGH for 3

> > > > > > to 6 months.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My DR. believes that the

> > optimum

> > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > level for me is between

> > > > > > > 800

> > > > > > > > an 950.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am 51 in pretty good

> > physical

> > > > condition,

> > > > > > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > > > > > weekly plus cardio. Just

> > trying to

> > > > loose

> > > > > > some of the belly fat.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Any comments about this

> > treatment???

> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this

> > message

> > > > have

> > > > > > been removed]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message

> > have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

April 14, 2010

I use Novarel and it comes with the Bac. water and states to mix it with 10 mls

of the water this makes 10,000 IU in 10 mls so this would be 1000 IU's / ml and

to do a 250 IU's shot you would do .25 mls of .25 cc's. So all I am saying is

if you still have the Bac. water add 8 mls to your vial slow and this will fix

it. Not that you can't use it the way it is it's just a dam strong and small

shot.

So not to have any problems with doing your shots add the water call your Dr.

ask him.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: andrenym007 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Adreal fatiuge TRT, HCG, DHEA and possibly HGH

>

> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 2:03 PM

> Wouldn't you have to add 10ml water

> to make 250iu?

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No not daily HCG.

> The HGC on

> > > the 5th

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > 6th day after the Test

> > > > > > > > injection.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In a message dated

> 4/12/2010

> > > 9:41:24 P.M.

> > > > > Eastern

> > > > > > > Daylight Time,

> > > > > > > > no_reply

> > > > > > > writes:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is the hcg daily?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > _ @hypogonadismhyp_

> > > > > > > > (mailto: )

> > > > > > > , gviceman77@, gvi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I went to a DR

> from an Age

> > > > > Management

> > > > > > > Center for one stop shopping

> for

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > my issues.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rather than getting

> one

> > > course of

> > > > > action from

> > > > > > > the ENDO, another from the

>

> > > > > > > > > URO, and yet

> another from the

> > > primary

> > > > > care

> > > > > > > DR.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am currently on

> > > Testosterone

> > > > > injections (weekly

> > > > > > > .75 mg) ;

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > HCG (20 on the

> insulin

> > > syringe)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > DHEA 50 mg daily

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am also on

> Synthroid .1M

> > > and Antara

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > trigylcerides; ordered 5

> years

> > > > > > > > > ago by my primary

> DR..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am secondary Hypo

> ( MIR

> > > evidence) due

> > > > > to an

> > > > > > > head / neck accident 10

> > > > > > > > > years ago.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My DR. through

> numerous blood

> > > tests

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > saliva test concluded that I

> was

> > > > > > > > > suffering for

> adrenal

> > > fatigue.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My doctor also

> suggested

> > > putting me on

> > > > > HGH for 3

> > > > > > > to 6 months.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My DR. believes

> that the

> > > optimum

> > > > > Testosterone

> > > > > > > level for me is between

> > > > > > > > 800

> > > > > > > > > an 950.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am 51 in pretty

> good

> > > physical

> > > > > condition,

> > > > > > > I lift weights 3 to 4 times

> > > > > > > > > weekly plus

> cardio. Just

> > > trying to

> > > > > loose

> > > > > > > some of the belly fat.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Any comments

> about this

> > > treatment???

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text

> portions of this

> > > message

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > been removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of

> this message

> > > have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

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