Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Has anyone noticed that their nipples tend to fluctuate in size by chance? I don't have any itchy feelings but they tend to fluctuate in size. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Symptoms of High E2 I thought it might be interesting for folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience when their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these may be similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar they were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of significance with the worst being first: Reduced Libido ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or ability to maintain) Reduced sensitivity in the penis Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one More emotional - cry watching TV Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I lost morning wood for over 30 yrs. I just thought it was about age. Before I had my E2 tested I was on TRT 18yrs the last 10yrs. I had some bad ED problems and could not reach an orgasm I was in my 50's at the time. I also had Panic Attacks, a bad rash on the back of my legs and on the sides of my chest, I had BPH and even had sugary on my prostate, I had one bladder infection after the other, I had sore and hard nipples, felt hot and would sweat all day and all night all yr. long, I looked red like I had a sunburn on my upper body and face, I would hold a lot of water, Brain fog, my Free T was at the bottom of the range, my SHBG was very high and if I eat shell fish I broke out in hives. When I tested my E2 levels at the time labs were for women my labs came back over the top of the rage we had no Idea how high I was. I started on Arimidex after trying all kinds of things Zinc, Evista and 13C. Nothing worked even when I went on Arimidex .5 mgs every other day in 8 weeks my levels were still over the top of the range. It was when I did .5 mgs everyday that my levels came back down. The first thing to happen to me was I got night time and morning wood back at age 58 it was so strong I could hang a coat on it. Then my ED was gone and my Panic Attacks in time all the above problems went away. I would have to say the biggest Problems I had were due to high E2 levels. And it's a shame it is taking so long for this to be looked at as a problem in men. I have men posting to me every week they can't get there Dr. to test there E2 levels they are told men don't have a problem with E2 levels it's a women's problem. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > I thought it might be interesting for > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience when > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these may be > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar they > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > significance with the worst being first: > > Reduced Libido > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or ability to > maintain) > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > More emotional - cry watching TV > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Good post. I can't wait to see Crisler and get my situation figured out. I go June 3. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Symptoms of High E2 > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > I thought it might be interesting for > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience when > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these may be > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar they > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > significance with the worst being first: > > Reduced Libido > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or ability to > maintain) > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > More emotional - cry watching TV > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Now that you mention it I also get an itchy rash on my stomach - always in the same spot. I also have BPH when my E2 is high. Â Arkansas > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > I thought it might be interesting for > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience when > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these may be > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar they > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > significance with the worst being first: > > Reduced Libido > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or ability to > maintain) > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > More emotional - cry watching TV > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > Arkansas > > > > > > Â Â Â > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 In a message dated 5/14/2010 2:54:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, no_reply writes: My million dollar question is : How to control E2 ? Arimidex (Anastrozole)-- .25 mg (1/4 tab) on M/W/F is a good starting point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 You will do very good after seeing him. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> > > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > I thought it might be interesting for > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience > when > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these > may be > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar > they > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > Reduced Libido > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or > ability to > > maintain) > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I hope so, I hate living like this. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Symptoms of High E2 > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > I thought it might be interesting for > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience > when > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these > may be > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar > they > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > Reduced Libido > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or > ability to > > maintain) > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 That rash had me going for yrs and the BPH all gone getting E2 down and keeping it down. I must say it is a job doing E2 goes all over the place never says the same. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> > > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > I thought it might be interesting for > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience > when > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these > may be > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar > they > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > Reduced Libido > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or > ability to > > maintain) > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I had small lumps right behind my nipples and no wood but sex is good. But my E2 was 100 or so. Too high. Even today I still dont manage my E2 and I think I am getting to BPH now. I have pain in my anus sometimes. Also frequent urination etc. My million dollar question is : How to control E2 ? I take .5cc of 200mg/ml Test Cyp every week or .65cc once in ten days. And I am talking hcg two times two days before my T shot. I take DIM tablets 1 - 1 in morning and evening but it doesnt look like its helping at all. This time I took 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening and both my legs were struck like I got arthritis or so. So I stopped it but I want to know how much DIM how long do we have to take. Thanks Joe > > > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> > > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > I thought it might be interesting for > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience when > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these may be > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar they > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > Reduced Libido > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or ability to > > maintain) > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > Â Â Â > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 How about lowering it to 80 a week and split dose every 3.5 days? It might work. > > > > > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@> > > > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > > I thought it might be interesting for > > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience when > > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these may be > > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar they > > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > > > Reduced Libido > > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or ability to > > > maintain) > > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â Â Â > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 DIM did not work for me - arimidex works amazingly better.  Arkansas From: inc_100 <no_reply > Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 4:53 PM  I had small lumps right behind my nipples and no wood but sex is good. But my E2 was 100 or so. Too high. Even today I still dont manage my E2 and I think I am getting to BPH now. I have pain in my anus sometimes. Also frequent urination etc. My million dollar question is : How to control E2 ? I take .5cc of 200mg/ml Test Cyp every week or .65cc once in ten days. And I am talking hcg two times two days before my T shot. I take DIM tablets 1 - 1 in morning and evening but it doesnt look like its helping at all. This time I took 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening and both my legs were struck like I got arthritis or so. So I stopped it but I want to know how much DIM how long do we have to take. Thanks Joe > > > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> > > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > I thought it might be interesting for > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience when > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these may be > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar they > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > Reduced Libido > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or ability to > > maintain) > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > >    > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hi Dan, Everyone, I had some what of a opposite problem I couldn't tolerate very much Arimidex because it would give me way worsening joint and body pain. I ordered the DIM and now I am taking that but before it arrived I noticed that my E2 was spiking much worst the day after I take my T shot so until my DIM came I tried taking Arimidex just the day after I do my shot. The Arimidex happened to break in 3 pieces by mistake so that is what I used and within the hour E2 must have gone down because I stopped feeling so emotional like I was. It seems to be working OK this way twice already with out the side effects I had before when I was taking the Arimidex EOD or E3 days. I just had a shot today so if my E2 seems to be spiking again tomorrow I will try it again and see if I can tolerate it this way. Before it took about a week and a half before the Arimidex built up enough to cause me the side effects. My symptoms when me E2 goes high that I am sure of are: 1) Red upper body, (mostly upper chest and face). 2) Highly emotional, cry like a girl at anything sad or happy like the preacher preaching a good sermon on Sabbath! Very annoying, but I feel better knowing what is causing it instead of thinking that I am slowly loosing it. 3) There may be others that I haven't identified yet. I am not sure if it has increased my insomnia. It will be worse anyway after I have had a busy day and my usual back pain is worse. Either extra pain will keep me awake (like now, did you notice the time) or even though I take extra pain meds the unfortunate side effect for me of taking extra pain meds is that that they act like a stimulant on me and that will keep me awake longer anyway. By the way hot flashes (face feels unusually warm) is a symptom of estradiol withdrawal. It's going down. Had that from Arimidex also. I told my wife between that and the emotional thing (#2 above) I am beginning to understand what PMS is! Brett Re: Symptoms of High E2 DIM did not work for me - arimidex works amazingly better. Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Dan, What means BPH? Brett Re: Symptoms of High E2 Now that you mention it I also get an itchy rash on my stomach - always in the same spot. I also have BPH when my E2 is high. Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Joe what did your Dr. say when he seen your Estradiol levels this high. That is dam high and one needs to go on Arimidex to get this down. Here is what I tell men about taking Arimidex and how to not go down to low. If your Dr. will not treat this you need to find one that will. ================================================== How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low. What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs. The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it. Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs. I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up. I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days. So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days. I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need ..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days. So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel. Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face. ---------------------------------------------------- This was on Dr. 's forum and Chilln did a great job with this. ==================================================== E2 Sweet Spot by Chilln at Dr. ’s forum. continued from post #8 in this thread, ie: http://musclechatroom.com/forum/show...14 & postcount=8 PLAN A: The healthiest method of optimizing E2 levels is to simply minimize your T boost, to the point which is " just above " your minimum acceptable level of damage tolerance. ### * If you exercise very hard, you're going to need a lot more T than if you exercise very little. * Reducing your T boosters will reduce both your maximum T levels, and your minimum T levels. This works if you metabolize T relatively slowly, in which case your minimum T levels will not be too low. * But if you metabolize T very quickly, then you may find that this method lets your minimum T levels drop too low. * As you and your medical professional adviser gradually lower your maximum T levels, your E2 levels will also reduce, and hopefully you will find a balance between T and E2 which suits your sexual performance goals. * If you discover that by using this method, you can occasionally experience optimum sexual performance, then your ability to maintain that for extended periods is dependant on how stable your E2 levels are, and the stability of your E2 levels depends on minimizing your maximum T levels, and ensuring your minimum T levels are still adequate (no sore joints, no sore back, no stiff neck, don't catch flu quickly). * Keep gradually reducing your maximum T levels, looking for your E2 sweet spot, until eventually your minimum T levels are too low during the day / week (ie: sore joints, or sore back, or you catch a flu quickly). ### If you haven't experienced a sweet spot for your E2 usign this method, then you need to consider PLAN B. PLAN B: Always attempt PLAN B if PLAN A fails to deliver the goods. Don't skip PLAN B. For those who supplement using transdermal T, reduce your maximum daily T levels by taking less-than-half-of-your-existing-daily-dosage-of-T, twice per day. For those who supplement using injected T ester (eg: T cypionate), reduce your maximum weekly T levels by either: a) taking less-than-half-of-your-existing-weekly-dosage-of-T, twice-per-week, or taking less-than-3/7-of-your-existing-weekly-dosage-of-T, once-every-3-days. ### * This will definitely reduce your peak T levels, while still ensuring that your minimum T levels do not drop. * The additional reduction in max T levels, without reducing your minimum T levels, will further allow your E2 levels to reduce, and hopefully that's enough to find your E2 sweet spot. * The equivalent mechanism for those who supplement using injected T esters (eg: testosterone cypionate) is to take less-than-half-of-your-existing-weekly-dosage-of-T, twice per week, or less-than-3/7-of-your-existing-weekly-dosage-of-T, every 3 days. * As you and your medical professional adviser gradually lower your maximum T levels, your E2 levels will also reduce, and hopefully you will find a balance between T and E2 which suits your sexual performance goals. * If you discover that by using this method, you can occasionally experience optimum sexual performance, then your ability to maintain that for extended periods is dependant on how stable your E2 levels are, and the stability of your E2 levels depends on your maximum T levels (not your minimum T levels). ### But you may discover that you still cannot find a sweet spot for both T and E2 using just this method. In which case consider PLAN C. PLAN C: ( OPTIONAL) This option is only available if you initially started out on a transdermal formulation of T. Switch from using a transdermal formulation of T to using an injected form of T ester - eg: " T cyp " (testosterone cypionate). Initially try once-per-week dosing, but switch to twice-per-week, or once-every-3-days dosing if you need to lower E2 levels even further. ### * Our body makes E2 out of T, using the " aromatase " enzyme, and we have high concentrations of aromatase enzymes in our subcutaneous body fat. * The transdermal forumations of T convert into more E2 and DHT than the injected T esters, because the transdermal formulations place the T in close proximity to the large concentration of aromatase enzymes in our body fat, while the injected T esters are designed for intra-muscular injection (not subcutanoues) and therefore the T is placed a long long way from those aromate enzymes in our body fat. * After switching from transdermal T to injected T esters, your E2 levels should also reduce, and hopefully you will find a balance between T and E2 which suits your sexual performance goals, but the stability of your E2 levels still depends on your maximum T levels (not your minimum T levels). * Initially try once-per-week dosing as discussed in PLAN B for T cyp users. * If using once-per-week dosing continues to result in too high maximum levels of T, while you are trying to ensure that your minimum T throughout the week is still above your minimum requirements for T, then you will need to add back the PLAN B multiple-times-per-week dosing - even for T cyp. ### But you may discover that you still cannot find a sweet spot for both T and E2 using just this method. In which case consider PLAN D. PLAN D: This alternative is to adjust both your T and HCG dosages, and use arimidex / anastrozole to optimize E2. But you should still be implementing the multiple-times-per-day dosing methodology from PLAN B and the final stage of PLAN C ### * This is not a trivial concept. You will be messing with T and E2 levels for months. * The most important concept with arimidex / anastrozole supplementtion is very reliable and accurate dosing. I very strongly recommend that you and your medical professional adviser adopt a more frequent dosing of arimidex / anastrozole than once-every-two-days, ie: by adopting daily dosing of arimidex / anastrozole, using small-but-reliable doses of compounded arimidex / anastrozole. ....This is detailed here: ....http://musclechatroom.com/forum/show...6 & postcount=31 * You may find that you need 0.1mg per day, or 0.15mg per day, or 0.2mg per day, instead of 0.5mg every second day. * After adjusting arimidex dosages and T dosages, you will definitely discover occasional optimum T versus E2 balance, and with that you will achieve occasional optimum sexual performance. Whether you can maintain that optimum sexual performance for the majority of each week is dependant on how stable your E2 levels are, and the stability of your E2 levels depends on your maximum T levels. ### But you may discover that you still cannot find a sweet spot for both T and E2 using just this method. In which case consider PLAN E. PLAN E: Boost T even less than before, and boost GH to provide the additional damage tolerance lost from the reduction in T levels. But continue to maintain using the multiple-times-per-day dosing methodology used in the final stages of the previous plans. But back off the arimidex / anastrozole completely. ### * Both T and GH trigger many of the same repairs (not 100% overlap) so you can safely reduce T, if you boost GH. * By further reducing your peak T levels, you further reduce the rate of conversion of T into E2. This assumes you reduce your supplemental T dosage when you add in the boost to GH. * By further reducing your peak T levels, your T and E2 levels will be more stable, and you'll find it easier to find your sweet spot for E2. But you may discover that you still cannot find a sweet spot for both T and E2 using just this method. In which case consider PLAN F. PLAN F This is simply the combination of PLAN E (GH boost, multiple times-per-day/week dosing) plus compounded arimidex / anastrozole. ### * This should only be necessary if: ....a) you haven't been able to afford sufficient recombinant GH to allow you to reduce your T levels by an adequate amount. or .... your can only afford GHRP-6, not recombinant GH, and your body's response to the GHRP-6 is inadequate amounts of GH. .. ________________________________________ Last edited by chilln; 16 Hours Ago at 07:12 PM. Co-Moderator Phil > From: inc_100 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 5:53 PM > I had small lumps right behind my > nipples and no wood but sex is good. But my E2 was 100 or > so. Too high. Even today I still dont manage my E2 and I > think I am getting to BPH now. I have pain in my anus > sometimes. Also frequent urination etc. > > My million dollar question is : How to control E2 ? > > I take .5cc of 200mg/ml Test Cyp every week or .65cc once > in ten days. And I am talking hcg two times two days before > my T shot. I take DIM tablets 1 - 1 in morning and evening > but it doesnt look like its helping at all. This time I took > 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening and both my legs were > struck like I got arthritis or so. So I stopped it but I > want to know how much DIM how long do we have to take. > > Thanks > Joe > > > > > > > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> > > > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > > I thought it might be interesting for > > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they > experience when > > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that > these may be > > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how > similar they > > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order > of > > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > > > Reduced Libido > > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or > ability to > > > maintain) > > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hi Brett and Welcome, Your feeling joint and body pain because the amout of Arimidex you took made your Estradiol levels go to low. Some men are not that high yet they are senative to changes in there Estradiol levels I am one of them. In your case cut the pill into 4 parts and take it when you feel your going to have a problem. I gage my levels of Estradiol by my night time and morning wood most of the time. On arimidex as my levels came down I got my morning wood back after not having it for yrs. So now when it stops and I am taking Arimidex I know it's because I drove my Estradiol E2 levels to low. So I stop taking it and the day the wood comes back I go back on it but take less. So most of the time I get by on 1/4 of a 1mgs pill every 2 days when I go to low I do it every 3 days. I have been at this a long time and got dam good at reading my body and telling is I am going to high or to low. Here is some things for you to read that I have in my files. =================================================== How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low. What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs. The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it. Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs. I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up. I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days. So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days. I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need ..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days. So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel. Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face. =================================================== Most compounding pharmacies will require a prescription from a doctor, before they do this. Once your prescription says " 300 caps x 0.1mg " or " 600 caps x 0.05mg " anastrozole " from 1 to 4 daily " , (anastrozole = generic arimidex) then they will compound your arimidex, or generic anastrozole, and they will usually supply the arimidex as compounded into the caps you require. My compounding pharmacist was prepared to allow me to supply the arimidex too. If you have several boxes of arimidex in your cupboard, then you may want to ask your pharmacist to do this for you. If you don't have any arimidex stores, then just let the compounding pharmacy supply the whole lot. ### A pack of 30 tabs of 1.0mg arimidex will give 300 caps at 0.1mg-per-cap, or 600 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap. So if your pharmacy chooses to supply arimidex as opposed to generic anastrozole, then your pharmacy will most likely not agree to only charge you for a half-a-box of arimidex, and most likely they'll charge for a whole box, even if your prescription says 300 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap (total of 15mg). =================================================== E2 Sweet Spot by Chilln at Dr. ’s forum. continued from post #8 in this thread, ie: http://musclechatroom.com/forum/show...14 & postcount=8 PLAN A: The healthiest method of optimizing E2 levels is to simply minimize your T boost, to the point which is " just above " your minimum acceptable level of damage tolerance. ### * If you exercise very hard, you're going to need a lot more T than if you exercise very little. * Reducing your T boosters will reduce both your maximum T levels, and your minimum T levels. This works if you metabolize T relatively slowly, in which case your minimum T levels will not be too low. * But if you metabolize T very quickly, then you may find that this method lets your minimum T levels drop too low. * As you and your medical professional adviser gradually lower your maximum T levels, your E2 levels will also reduce, and hopefully you will find a balance between T and E2 which suits your sexual performance goals. * If you discover that by using this method, you can occasionally experience optimum sexual performance, then your ability to maintain that for extended periods is dependant on how stable your E2 levels are, and the stability of your E2 levels depends on minimizing your maximum T levels, and ensuring your minimum T levels are still adequate (no sore joints, no sore back, no stiff neck, don't catch flu quickly). * Keep gradually reducing your maximum T levels, looking for your E2 sweet spot, until eventually your minimum T levels are too low during the day / week (ie: sore joints, or sore back, or you catch a flu quickly). ### If you haven't experienced a sweet spot for your E2 usign this method, then you need to consider PLAN B. PLAN B: Always attempt PLAN B if PLAN A fails to deliver the goods. Don't skip PLAN B. For those who supplement using transdermal T, reduce your maximum daily T levels by taking less-than-half-of-your-existing-daily-dosage-of-T, twice per day. For those who supplement using injected T ester (eg: T cypionate), reduce your maximum weekly T levels by either: a) taking less-than-half-of-your-existing-weekly-dosage-of-T, twice-per-week, or taking less-than-3/7-of-your-existing-weekly-dosage-of-T, once-every-3-days. ### * This will definitely reduce your peak T levels, while still ensuring that your minimum T levels do not drop. * The additional reduction in max T levels, without reducing your minimum T levels, will further allow your E2 levels to reduce, and hopefully that's enough to find your E2 sweet spot. * The equivalent mechanism for those who supplement using injected T esters (eg: testosterone cypionate) is to take less-than-half-of-your-existing-weekly-dosage-of-T, twice per week, or less-than-3/7-of-your-existing-weekly-dosage-of-T, every 3 days. * As you and your medical professional adviser gradually lower your maximum T levels, your E2 levels will also reduce, and hopefully you will find a balance between T and E2 which suits your sexual performance goals. * If you discover that by using this method, you can occasionally experience optimum sexual performance, then your ability to maintain that for extended periods is dependant on how stable your E2 levels are, and the stability of your E2 levels depends on your maximum T levels (not your minimum T levels). ### But you may discover that you still cannot find a sweet spot for both T and E2 using just this method. In which case consider PLAN C. PLAN C: ( OPTIONAL) This option is only available if you initially started out on a transdermal formulation of T. Switch from using a transdermal formulation of T to using an injected form of T ester - eg: " T cyp " (testosterone cypionate). Initially try once-per-week dosing, but switch to twice-per-week, or once-every-3-days dosing if you need to lower E2 levels even further. ### * Our body makes E2 out of T, using the " aromatase " enzyme, and we have high concentrations of aromatase enzymes in our subcutaneous body fat. * The transdermal forumations of T convert into more E2 and DHT than the injected T esters, because the transdermal formulations place the T in close proximity to the large concentration of aromatase enzymes in our body fat, while the injected T esters are designed for intra-muscular injection (not subcutanoues) and therefore the T is placed a long long way from those aromate enzymes in our body fat. * After switching from transdermal T to injected T esters, your E2 levels should also reduce, and hopefully you will find a balance between T and E2 which suits your sexual performance goals, but the stability of your E2 levels still depends on your maximum T levels (not your minimum T levels). * Initially try once-per-week dosing as discussed in PLAN B for T cyp users. * If using once-per-week dosing continues to result in too high maximum levels of T, while you are trying to ensure that your minimum T throughout the week is still above your minimum requirements for T, then you will need to add back the PLAN B multiple-times-per-week dosing - even for T cyp. ### But you may discover that you still cannot find a sweet spot for both T and E2 using just this method. In which case consider PLAN D. PLAN D: This alternative is to adjust both your T and HCG dosages, and use arimidex / anastrozole to optimize E2. But you should still be implementing the multiple-times-per-day dosing methodology from PLAN B and the final stage of PLAN C ### * This is not a trivial concept. You will be messing with T and E2 levels for months. * The most important concept with arimidex / anastrozole supplementtion is very reliable and accurate dosing. I very strongly recommend that you and your medical professional adviser adopt a more frequent dosing of arimidex / anastrozole than once-every-two-days, ie: by adopting daily dosing of arimidex / anastrozole, using small-but-reliable doses of compounded arimidex / anastrozole. ....This is detailed here: ....http://musclechatroom.com/forum/show...6 & postcount=31 * You may find that you need 0.1mg per day, or 0.15mg per day, or 0.2mg per day, instead of 0.5mg every second day. * After adjusting arimidex dosages and T dosages, you will definitely discover occasional optimum T versus E2 balance, and with that you will achieve occasional optimum sexual performance. Whether you can maintain that optimum sexual performance for the majority of each week is dependant on how stable your E2 levels are, and the stability of your E2 levels depends on your maximum T levels. ### But you may discover that you still cannot find a sweet spot for both T and E2 using just this method. In which case consider PLAN E. PLAN E: Boost T even less than before, and boost GH to provide the additional damage tolerance lost from the reduction in T levels. But continue to maintain using the multiple-times-per-day dosing methodology used in the final stages of the previous plans. But back off the arimidex / anastrozole completely. ### * Both T and GH trigger many of the same repairs (not 100% overlap) so you can safely reduce T, if you boost GH. * By further reducing your peak T levels, you further reduce the rate of conversion of T into E2. This assumes you reduce your supplemental T dosage when you add in the boost to GH. * By further reducing your peak T levels, your T and E2 levels will be more stable, and you'll find it easier to find your sweet spot for E2. But you may discover that you still cannot find a sweet spot for both T and E2 using just this method. In which case consider PLAN F. PLAN F This is simply the combination of PLAN E (GH boost, multiple times-per-day/week dosing) plus compounded arimidex / anastrozole. ### * This should only be necessary if: ....a) you haven't been able to afford sufficient recombinant GH to allow you to reduce your T levels by an adequate amount. or .... your can only afford GHRP-6, not recombinant GH, and your body's response to the GHRP-6 is inadequate amounts of GH. .. ________________________________________ Last edited by chilln; 16 Hours Ago at 07:12 PM. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 3:01 AM > Hi Dan, Everyone, >   I had some what of a opposite problem I > couldn't tolerate very much > Arimidex because it would give me way worsening joint and > body pain. I > ordered the DIM and now I am taking that but before it > arrived I noticed > that my E2 was spiking much worst the day after I take my T > shot so until my > DIM came I tried taking Arimidex just the day after I do my > shot. The > Arimidex happened to break in 3 pieces by mistake so that > is what I used and > within the hour E2 must have gone down because I stopped > feeling so > emotional like I was. It seems to be working OK this way > twice already with > out the side effects I had before when I was taking the > Arimidex EOD or E3 > days. I just had a shot today so if my E2 seems to be > spiking again tomorrow > I will try it again and see if I can tolerate it this > way. Before it took > about a week and a half before the Arimidex built up enough > to cause me the > side effects. > > My symptoms when me E2 goes high that I am sure of are: > > 1) Red upper body, (mostly upper chest and face). > > 2) Highly emotional, cry like a girl at anything sad > or happy like the > preacher preaching a good sermon on Sabbath! Very > annoying, but I feel > better knowing what is causing it instead of thinking that > I am slowly > loosing it. > > 3) There may be others that I haven't identified > yet. I am not sure if it > has increased my insomnia. It will be worse anyway > after I have had a busy > day and my usual back pain is worse. Either extra > pain will keep me awake > (like now, did you notice the time) or even though I take > extra pain meds > the unfortunate side effect for me of taking extra pain > meds is that that > they act like a stimulant on me and that will keep me awake > longer anyway. > > By the way hot flashes (face feels unusually warm) is a > symptom of estradiol > withdrawal. It's going down. Had that from Arimidex > also. I told my wife > between that and the emotional thing (#2 above) I am > beginning to understand > what PMS is!    Brett > Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > > DIM did not work for me - arimidex works amazingly better. > > Arkansas > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benign_prostatic_hyperplasia Co-Moderator Phil > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 3:06 AM > Dan, > What means BPH? Brett > Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > > Now that you mention it I also get an itchy rash on my > stomach - always in > the same spot. I also have BPH when my E2 is high. > > Arkansas > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Phil: You know I am still working on my E2 but still couldnt get it under control. And I have weekness in my legs, knee pains, pain in feet and also sometimes in elbows. But I feel once I learn to manage my E2 well I think all of this will be under control. I have been taking DIM but some how its not working that great I guess. So I will call my doc for a prescription for Arimidex. Last time when I saw my doc he said take 2 DIM every day 1 -1 and see and if it seems not working lets do Arimidex. So I think I will ask ask him to prescribe me Arimidex. Which is the best place to get Arimidex with or without prescription ? My doc is the best one out there. He is open to any information I take to him. He will listen, analyse and will always try something what we want to. The only thing he doesnt do is " wont take insurance " . He says with the insurance company restrictions we cannot get optimal treatment. Thanks Joe > > > > > > > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@> > > > > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > > > I thought it might be interesting for > > > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they > > experience when > > > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that > > these may be > > > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how > > similar they > > > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order > > of > > > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > > > > > Reduced Libido > > > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or > > ability to > > > > maintain) > > > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Hi,Phil, I never lost the wood. We talked about this a week or two ago. I am quite sure that what I was experiencing were typical side effects from the Arimidex. Ask any woman that has had to take it for breast cancer. We men at the lower dose wouldn't expect so many or as bad side efects. I expect me having back pain and arthritis already made me more susceptible to them. Joint pain being the worst. I know you talk to so many men that is must be almost imposable to keep it all straight who is who let alone what problem each one had. Don't know how you do it. Seems like a full time job. I know your signature says " Co-Moderator " but I have to admit I haven't a clue who any other moderators are if there are any or who the group owner is. Is this a trade secret? Thanks again, Brett Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 3:01 AM > Hi Dan, Everyone, > I had some what of a opposite problem I > couldn't tolerate very much > Arimidex because it would give me way worsening joint and > body pain. I > ordered the DIM and now I am taking that but before it > arrived I noticed > that my E2 was spiking much worst the day after I take my T > shot so until my > DIM came I tried taking Arimidex just the day after I do my > shot. The > Arimidex happened to break in 3 pieces by mistake so that > is what I used and > within the hour E2 must have gone down because I stopped > feeling so > emotional like I was. It seems to be working OK this way > twice already with > out the side effects I had before when I was taking the > Arimidex EOD or E3 > days. I just had a shot today so if my E2 seems to be > spiking again tomorrow > I will try it again and see if I can tolerate it this > way. Before it took > about a week and a half before the Arimidex built up enough > to cause me the > side effects. > > My symptoms when me E2 goes high that I am sure of are: > > 1) Red upper body, (mostly upper chest and face). > > 2) Highly emotional, cry like a girl at anything sad > or happy like the > preacher preaching a good sermon on Sabbath! Very > annoying, but I feel > better knowing what is causing it instead of thinking that > I am slowly > loosing it. > > 3) There may be others that I haven't identified > yet. I am not sure if it > has increased my insomnia. It will be worse anyway > after I have had a busy > day and my usual back pain is worse. Either extra > pain will keep me awake > (like now, did you notice the time) or even though I take > extra pain meds > the unfortunate side effect for me of taking extra pain > meds is that that > they act like a stimulant on me and that will keep me awake > longer anyway. > > By the way hot flashes (face feels unusually warm) is a > symptom of estradiol > withdrawal. It's going down. Had that from Arimidex > also. I told my wife > between that and the emotional thing (#2 above) I am > beginning to understand > what PMS is! Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 How long have you been off Arimidex sore joints and clicking joints can happen when Arimidex brings Estradiol levels down to low. But this can also happen from low Testosterone. brad999us is the main man here I guess with me helping him I get to everyone before he dose. I am retired he is one great guy for taking on this forum when the other mods Quit. I was one sick guy when I came here and this forum helped me so much. I am just giving back what they gave me. I hate to see men suffer like I did over many yrs. It is hard to keep track on people I talk to your post came through like you were a new member. This is why I reply like I did I am bad on names can't remember them for the life of me. So for give me If I missed this. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > > Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 3:01 AM > > Hi Dan, Everyone, > > I had some what of a opposite problem I > > couldn't tolerate very much > > Arimidex because it would give me way worsening joint > and > > body pain. I > > ordered the DIM and now I am taking that but before > it > > arrived I noticed > > that my E2 was spiking much worst the day after I take > my T > > shot so until my > > DIM came I tried taking Arimidex just the day after I > do my > > shot. The > > Arimidex happened to break in 3 pieces by mistake so > that > > is what I used and > > within the hour E2 must have gone down because I > stopped > > feeling so > > emotional like I was. It seems to be working OK this > way > > twice already with > > out the side effects I had before when I was taking > the > > Arimidex EOD or E3 > > days. I just had a shot today so if my E2 seems to be > > spiking again tomorrow > > I will try it again and see if I can tolerate it this > > way. Before it took > > about a week and a half before the Arimidex built up > enough > > to cause me the > > side effects. > > > > My symptoms when me E2 goes high that I am sure of > are: > > > > 1) Red upper body, (mostly upper chest and face). > > > > 2) Highly emotional, cry like a girl at anything sad > > or happy like the > > preacher preaching a good sermon on Sabbath! Very > > annoying, but I feel > > better knowing what is causing it instead of thinking > that > > I am slowly > > loosing it. > > > > 3) There may be others that I haven't identified > > yet. I am not sure if it > > has increased my insomnia. It will be worse anyway > > after I have had a busy > > day and my usual back pain is worse. Either extra > > pain will keep me awake > > (like now, did you notice the time) or even though I > take > > extra pain meds > > the unfortunate side effect for me of taking extra > pain > > meds is that that > > they act like a stimulant on me and that will keep me > awake > > longer anyway. > > > > By the way hot flashes (face feels unusually warm) is > a > > symptom of estradiol > > withdrawal. It's going down. Had that from Arimidex > > also. I told my wife > > between that and the emotional thing (#2 above) I am > > beginning to understand > > what PMS is! Brett > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Going to 80/week would be raising as he stated that he was doing 50/mg a week (65 every 10 days). Per Dr. Crisler I inject 50mg (of 200ml/ng) Test-Cyp twice a week (100mg per week). I use a 3-4 day schedule. I inject on Saturday and Tuesday mornings. Seems to be doing a good job of controlling the Estrogen for the most part and my wood and libido are pretty darn good. Just my 2 cents worth. Bill ________________________________ From: andrenym007 <no_reply > Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 6:41:11 PM Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2  How about lowering it to 80 a week and split dose every 3.5 days? It might work. > > > > > From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@> > > > Subject: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > > > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:25 PM > > > I thought it might be interesting for > > > folks to give a list of the symptoms they experience when > > > their E2 goes too high. It should be noted that these may be > > > similar to those of Low T. Just wondered how similar they > > > were. Here are mine and I tried to list in order of > > > significance with the worst being first: > > > > > > Reduced Libido > > > ED symptoms get worse (little or no erections or ability to > > > maintain) > > > Reduced sensitivity in the penis > > > Nipples start to itch - sometimes just one > > > More emotional - cry watching TV > > > Anxiety attacks - mostly at night while sleeping > > > Possibly more insomnia - not sure about this one > > > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Basically " enlarged prostate " - it stands for Benign Prostate Hyperplasic " . ________________________________ From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 3:06:41 AM Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 Dan, What means BPH? Brett Re: Symptoms of High E2 Now that you mention it I also get an itchy rash on my stomach - always in the same spot. I also have BPH when my E2 is high. Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Sorry, doofus that I am; it's " Benign Prostatic Hyerplastia " . I was diagnosed with it about 7 years ago. Now we finally know that I have low T, not BPH. ________________________________ From: Bill Totten <bill_totten@...> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 10:55:05 AM Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 Basically " enlarged prostate " - it stands for Benign Prostate Hyperplasic " . ________________________________ From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 3:06:41 AM Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 Dan, What means BPH? Brett Re: Symptoms of High E2 Now that you mention it I also get an itchy rash on my stomach - always in the same spot. I also have BPH when my E2 is high. Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 It might stand for " Brett's Prostate is Huge " . Oh man, am I funny!!!!! ________________________________ From: Bill Totten <bill_totten@...> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 10:55:05 AM Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 Basically " enlarged prostate " - it stands for Benign Prostate Hyperplasic " . ________________________________ From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 3:06:41 AM Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 Dan, What means BPH? Brett Re: Symptoms of High E2 Now that you mention it I also get an itchy rash on my stomach - always in the same spot. I also have BPH when my E2 is high. Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 What's the best OTC supplement for BPH ? I think I have some BPH. What are the symptoms other than little & frequent urination ? Joe > > Basically " enlarged prostate " - it stands for Benign Prostate Hyperplasic " . > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > > Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 3:06:41 AM > Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > > Dan, > What means BPH? Brett > Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > Now that you mention it I also get an itchy rash on my stomach - always in > the same spot. I also have BPH when my E2 is high. > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 What worked for me was getting my Estradiol E2 levels down and keeping them down later my BPH went away. I took Arimidex. Co-Moderator Phil > From: inc_100 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 4:25 PM > > What's the best OTC supplement for BPH ? I think I have > some BPH. What are the symptoms other than little & > frequent urination ? > > Joe > > > > > Basically " enlarged prostate " - it stands for Benign > Prostate Hyperplasic " . > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > > > > Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 3:06:41 AM > > Subject: Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > > > Dan, > > What means BPH? Brett > > Re: Symptoms of High E2 > > > > Now that you mention it I also get an itchy rash on my > stomach - always in > > the same spot. I also have BPH when my E2 is high. > > > > Arkansas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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