Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Brett just going by your TSH your in need of Thyroid your hypo your pituitary is asking for a lot of Thyroid hormone but one needs to also go by how they feel. If I were you I would get my Cortisol levels tested also get a 4x's in a day saliva test like the one in this link. http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/ If your low you need to treat this first then go on Thyroid meds. Here is a link to a test you can do in the morning before you get out of bed that will tell if your hypo but use a shake down a thermometer. http://drbate.com/Ref/thyroid.html If you need meds for Thyroid this is the best. http://www.universaldrugstore.com/medications/Thyroid/60mg You can learn a lot about this problem from reading this site or even getting the book. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ When they had a forum I was a mod there for Men Only. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > Subject: T3 Uptake ? > > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:37 AM > Barb, or Anybody, know what this > means on Quest Labs? > * T3 UPTAKE 31 > Range 22-35 > I asked my Dr. to test T3 and this was the only thing > reported that was T3. > > Other labs done 6/16/2010: > *Tsh 3rd Generation > 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 > mcg/dL > * Free 4 Index ( > T7) 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 > T4 Free > 1.2 > Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL > > This looks better than my last lab " T4 Free " was only .9 in > the same range above. > Thanks, Brett > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Brett Definitely get your adrenals check as phil said. We use canaryclub for $99, not sure if that's better price. T3 Uptake and Free T4 Index are obsolete tests. The TSH 3.48 (0.4-4.5) shows your pituitary is working atleast partially and you are hypo. The Free T4 1.2 (0.8-1.8) is a little low. The best test is FT3. I think you should get Free T3, Reverse T3, TPO antibody, and TAb antibody done. Here is a good group for stopthethryoidmadness: NaturalThyroidHormones/?yguid=104711494 Send them these labs plus symptoms and they can help out. Jennie > > * T3 UPTAKE 31 > > Range 22-35 > > I asked my Dr. to test T3 and this was the only thing > > reported that was T3. > > > > Other labs done 6/16/2010: > > *Tsh 3rd Generation > > 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > > *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 > > mcg/dL > > * Free 4 Index ( > > T7) 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 > > T4 Free > > 1.2 > > Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL > > > > This looks better than my last lab " T4 Free " was only .9 in > > the same range above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Thanks Jennie & Phil, Today I went to another doctor, Dr Wong Endo, that I had seen before and he agreed that that was the wrong test. So he sent me for my 3rd thyroid test in three weeks. I hope " third time is the charm! " LOL He is testing FreeT3, and reverse T3 like you said and he proscribed me the Quest Labs Cortisol, Saliva , LC/MS/MS 19897 http://www.questdiagnostics.com/hcp/testmenu/jsp/showTestMenu.jsp?fn=19897.html He seemed to know what he was doing. I told him I had been reading the book on Adrenal fatigue and that not many doctors knew about this. He said the understanding of adrenal fatigue was starting to catch on. This is the same Endo that I saw earlier when I was first wanting to try Arimidex. He didn't want to proscribe it then but we had a good discussion about it and I had told him about some of the research on estradiol in men and left him with some of Dr 's TRT paper work. It first he seemed like he didn't want it until I mentioned estradiol effecting prostrate problems and that perked his interest. This time when he first came in he asked what I had researched. He almost seemed disappointed that I didn't bring him anything. So who knows maybe we have a convert in the works on better TRT for men. At lest he is open to talk about it and dosen't put the patient down for having ideas of how you want to be treated. Anyway thank you both for your advise, Brett Re: T3 Uptake ? Brett Definitely get your adrenals check as phil said. We use canaryclub for $99, not sure if that's better price. T3 Uptake and Free T4 Index are obsolete tests. The TSH 3.48 (0.4-4.5) shows your pituitary is working at least partially and you are hypo. The Free T4 1.2 (0.8-1.8) is a little low. The best test is FT3. I think you should get Free T3, Reverse T3, TPO antibody, and TAb antibody done. Here is a good group for stopthethryoidmadness: NaturalThyroidHormones/?yguid=104711494 Send them these labs plus symptoms and they can help out. Jennie > > * T3 UPTAKE 31 > > Range 22-35 > > I asked my Dr. to test T3 and this was the only thing > > reported that was T3. > > > > Other labs done 6/16/2010: > > *Tsh 3rd Generation > > 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > > *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 > > mcg/dL > > * Free 4 Index ( > > T7) 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 > > T4 Free > > 1.2 > > Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL > > > > This looks better than my last lab " T4 Free " was only .9 in > > the same range above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 I hope on that Saliva Cortisol test he ordered 4x's a day and they sent you 4 tubes. Sounds good I pray it all works out for you. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > Subject: Re: T3 Uptake ? > > Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 1:19 AM > Thanks Jennie & Phil, > Today I went to another doctor, Dr Wong Endo, > that I had seen before and > he agreed that that was the wrong test. So he sent me > for my 3rd thyroid > test in three weeks. I hope " third time is the > charm! " LOL > He is testing FreeT3, and reverse T3 like you > said and he proscribed me > the Quest Labs Cortisol, Saliva , LC/MS/MS 19897 > http://www.questdiagnostics.com/hcp/testmenu/jsp/showTestMenu.jsp?fn=19897.html > > He seemed to know what he was doing. I told him I had > been reading the book > on Adrenal fatigue and that not many doctors knew about > this. He said the > understanding of adrenal fatigue was starting to catch on. > > This is the same Endo that I saw > earlier when I was first wanting to > try Arimidex. He didn't want to proscribe it then but > we had a good > discussion about it and I had told him about some of the > research on > estradiol in men and left him with some of Dr 's TRT > paper work. It > first he seemed like he didn't want it until I mentioned > estradiol effecting > prostrate problems and that perked his interest. This > time when he first > came in he asked what I had researched. He almost > seemed disappointed that > I didn't bring him anything. So who knows > maybe we have a convert in the > works on better TRT for men. At lest he is open to > talk about it and > dosen't put the patient down for having ideas of how you > want to be treated. > Anyway thank you both for your advise, Brett > Re: T3 Uptake ? > > > Brett > Definitely get your adrenals check as phil said. We use > canaryclub for $99, > not sure if that's better price. T3 Uptake and Free T4 > Index are obsolete > tests. The TSH 3.48 (0.4-4.5) shows your pituitary is > working at least > partially and you are hypo. > > The Free T4 1.2 (0.8-1.8) is a little low. The best test is > FT3. I think you > should get Free T3, Reverse T3, TPO antibody, and TAb > antibody done. > > Here is a good group for stopthethryoidmadness: > NaturalThyroidHormones/?yguid=104711494 > Send them these labs plus symptoms and they can help out. > > Jennie > > > > > * T3 UPTAKE 31 > > > Range 22-35 > > > I asked my Dr. to test T3 and this was the only > thing > > > reported that was T3. > > > > > > Other labs done 6/16/2010: > > > *Tsh 3rd Generation > > > 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > > > *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 > > > mcg/dL > > > * Free 4 Index ( > > > T7) 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 > > > T4 Free > > > 1.2 > > > Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL > > > > > > This looks better than my last lab " T4 Free " was > only .9 in > > > the same range above. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Yes Phil, That is the one. I am doing it today. 8AM, Noon, 8PM and Midnight. Brett Re: T3 Uptake ? > > > Brett > Definitely get your adrenals check as phil said. We use > canaryclub for $99, > not sure if that's better price. T3 Uptake and Free T4 > Index are obsolete > tests. The TSH 3.48 (0.4-4.5) shows your pituitary is > working at least > partially and you are hypo. > > The Free T4 1.2 (0.8-1.8) is a little low. The best test is > FT3. I think you > should get Free T3, Reverse T3, TPO antibody, and TAb > antibody done. > > Here is a good group for stopthethryoidmadness: > NaturalThyroidHormones/?yguid=104711494 > Send them these labs plus symptoms and they can help out. > > Jennie > > > > > * T3 UPTAKE 31 > > > Range 22-35 > > > I asked my Dr. to test T3 and this was the only > thing > > > reported that was T3. > > > > > > Other labs done 6/16/2010: > > > *Tsh 3rd Generation > > > 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > > > *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 > > > mcg/dL > > > * Free 4 Index ( > > > T7) 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 > > > T4 Free > > > 1.2 > > > Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL > > > > > > This looks better than my last lab " T4 Free " was > only .9 in > > > the same range above. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Great I will make a note they have this now. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > > Subject: Re: T3 Uptake ? > > > > Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 1:19 AM > > Thanks Jennie & Phil, > > Today I went to another doctor, Dr Wong Endo, > > that I had seen before and > > he agreed that that was the wrong test. So he sent me > > for my 3rd thyroid > > test in three weeks. I hope " third time is the > > charm! " LOL > > He is testing FreeT3, and reverse T3 like you > > said and he proscribed me > > the Quest Labs Cortisol, Saliva , LC/MS/MS 19897 > > http://www.questdiagnostics.com/hcp/testmenu/jsp/showTestMenu.jsp?fn=19897.html > > > > He seemed to know what he was doing. I told him I had > > been reading the book > > on Adrenal fatigue and that not many doctors knew > about > > this. He said the > > understanding of adrenal fatigue was starting to catch > on. > > > > This is the same Endo that I saw > > earlier when I was first wanting to > > try Arimidex. He didn't want to proscribe it then but > > we had a good > > discussion about it and I had told him about some of > the > > research on > > estradiol in men and left him with some of Dr 's > TRT > > paper work. It > > first he seemed like he didn't want it until I > mentioned > > estradiol effecting > > prostrate problems and that perked his interest. This > > time when he first > > came in he asked what I had researched. He almost > > seemed disappointed that > > I didn't bring him anything. So who knows > > maybe we have a convert in the > > works on better TRT for men. At lest he is open to > > talk about it and > > dosen't put the patient down for having ideas of how > you > > want to be treated. > > Anyway thank you both for your advise, Brett > > Re: T3 Uptake ? > > > > > > Brett > > Definitely get your adrenals check as phil said. We > use > > canaryclub for $99, > > not sure if that's better price. T3 Uptake and Free > T4 > > Index are obsolete > > tests. The TSH 3.48 (0.4-4.5) shows your pituitary is > > working at least > > partially and you are hypo. > > > > The Free T4 1.2 (0.8-1.8) is a little low. The best > test is > > FT3. I think you > > should get Free T3, Reverse T3, TPO antibody, and TAb > > antibody done. > > > > Here is a good group for stopthethryoidmadness: > > NaturalThyroidHormones/?yguid=104711494 > > Send them these labs plus symptoms and they can help > out. > > > > Jennie > > > > > > > > * T3 UPTAKE 31 > > > > Range 22-35 > > > > I asked my Dr. to test T3 and this was the > only > > thing > > > > reported that was T3. > > > > > > > > Other labs done 6/16/2010: > > > > *Tsh 3rd Generation > > > > 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > > > > *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 > > > > mcg/dL > > > > * Free 4 Index ( > > > > T7) 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 > > > > T4 Free > > > > 1.2 > > > > Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL > > > > > > > > This looks better than my last lab " T4 Free " > was > > only .9 in > > > > the same range above. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi Guys, I got my third thyroid labs done 6/23 this time with T3 free: TSH, 2.75 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L T4, Free 1.0 Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL T3, Free 324 Range 230-420 np/dL I this a good level of T3? Does it mater that T4 free is running consistently low in the range in all these tests? The labs done 6/16/2010: *Tsh 3rd Generation 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 mcg/dL * Free 4 Index ( T7) 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 T4 Free 1.2 Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL * T3 UPTAKE 31 Range 22-35 In my first lab " T4 Free " was only .9 Thanks for your help, Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Brett,.....I learned that my mother has seen the doctor you are. She seemed to like him OK. My TSH was 1.69, and my T4 Free was 1.3 in December of 2009. Short of that I don't have a clue what to say! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Brett your TSH is over 2 this is a flag going up and your FT3 is just below med range. And FT4 is on the low side. Next thing is how do you feel you need to look at the symptoms of being low and see if you have them. One other way of telling is to take your Basel Temp read this link. http://drbate.com/Ref/thyroid.html Also it helps if you test your Total T3 and T4. Read this link. http://thyroid.about.com/ Co-Moderator Phil > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > Subject: Re: T3 Uptake ? > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 4:41 PM > Hi Guys, > I got my third thyroid labs done 6/23 this time with T3 > free: > TSH, 2.75 > Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > T4, Free 1.0 Range 0.8-1.8 > ng/dL > T3, Free 324 Range > 230-420 np/dL > I this a good level of T3? Does it mater that > T4 free is running > consistently low in the range in all these tests? > > The labs done 6/16/2010: > *Tsh 3rd Generation > 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 > mcg/dL > * Free 4 Index ( T7) > 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 > T4 Free > 1.2 > Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL > * T3 UPTAKE > 31 Range 22-35 > > In my first lab " T4 Free " was only .9 > Thanks for your help, Brett > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 No enough info to say. Co-Moderator Phil > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...> > Subject: Re: T3 Uptake ? > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 5:08 PM > Brett,.....I learned that my mother > has seen the doctor you are. She seemed to like him OK. > > My TSH was 1.69, and my T4 Free was 1.3 in December of > 2009. > Short of that I don't have a clue what to say! ) > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 And test reverse T3 too. > > > From: Brett Savage <brshop@...> > > Subject: Re: T3 Uptake ? > > > > Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 4:41 PM > > Hi Guys, > > I got my third thyroid labs done 6/23 this time with T3 > > free: > > TSH, 2.75 > > Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > > T4, Free 1.0 Range 0.8-1.8 > > ng/dL > > T3, Free 324 Range > > 230-420 np/dL > > I this a good level of T3? Does it mater that > > T4 free is running > > consistently low in the range in all these tests? > > > > The labs done 6/16/2010: > > *Tsh 3rd Generation > > 3.48 Range 0.40-4.50 mIU/L > > *T4 (Thyroxine) Total 7.9 Range 4.5-12.5 > > mcg/dL > > * Free 4 Index ( T7) > > 2.4 Range 1.4-3.8 > > T4 Free > > 1.2 > > Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL > > * T3 UPTAKE > > 31 Range 22-35 > > > > In my first lab " T4 Free " was only .9 > > Thanks for your help, Brett > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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