Re: Help with husbands libido

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Hi Kim and Welcome,

He sounds like he needs a better Dr. men don't do shots every 3 weeks and shoot

a dam high dose like 300 mgs all at one time. This is dam old and dose not

work well. His levels will spike up very high by the 3rd. day after the shot

above 1400 the fall and be very low by this next shot in 3 weeks or even 2

weeks. We call this the Roller Coaster Ride up after the shot then down by the

next one.

On page 11 of the AACE Guidelines it states to do shots every 7 to 10 days show

this to his Dr.

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

What is also going on here is his Estradiol levels will spike why up with this

much Testosterone all at once it dose not need this much and will convert most

of it into Estradiol. High Estradiol will take away any good the Testosterone

is doing and kill is sex life. I have Panic Attacks when I am to high look red

in my face and on the upper part of my body. I sweat all day and nigh and feel

hot. It gives me ED so bad Viagra will not help and I get sore and hard

nipples.

Taking arimidex one can go down to low this will be just as bad as being to high

it kills his sex life.

I see he is on T3 this can be why his SHBG is so dam high and this binds up his

Free Testosterone levels. I don't see his Estradiol labs here but I am betting

they are high.

Here is what I would do if I were him talk to his Dr. about doing shots his self

every week 100 mgs to start and add in some HCG doing 250 IU's the 2 days each

before the next T shot this will keep his Testis working and his levels up.

Get him on some NTH Thyroid like this one.

http://www.universaldrugstore.com/medications/Thyroid/60mg

He is all ready on 30 mgs of Cortef so this should not be a problem start with

60 mgs. or 1 grain we do much better on this.

Read this link on how I got started treating my Adrenals and Thyroid print out

the chart from the link in this and keep track of his Temps avg. This will help

him see how he is doing and he should be able to go up on the dose of NTH 15 mgs

about every 2 weeks do this until he is on 120 mgs then hold this for about 8

weeks do labs testing Total T4 & T3 and Free 3 & T4 if he still feels low and

his lab are not above mid range or past it up the dose 15 mgs more and hold

again for 8 weeks keep doing this until he feel good.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=24

You will see in this link he needs to get his Total Testosterone levels up into

the upper 1/3 of his labs range and to keep his Estradiol E2 down to about 20

pg/ml.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

If he is on T3 only for Rt3 it will not work as he comes off the T3 the RT3 will

just come back up. Getting his self tuned up and lowering his stress this

should fix RT3.

This is some new info out about doing T4 only like Synthroid with T3 that looks

like it works he can try this.

http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/05/17/t3-superior-t4-levothyroxine-hypothyroidis\

m-thyroid.htm?nl=1

This is a copy of a file I have on not going to low on Arimidex.

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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Kim <kimhssbrk@...>

> Subject: Help with husbands libido

>

> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 8:24 PM

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Hoping for some help here. My husband is 40 yrs old and has

> been using n

> T Cypionate injections for around 6 mos. He has tried

> various dosing

> strategies, at the time of these labs he was using 300mgs

> every 2 wks

> IM.  His Free T is sinking lower and lower. His libido

> is in the dirt,

> pretty bad when  the wife is begging for a little

> lovin [] .  He has

> used Arimidex in the past and it only made it worse, any

> help is very

> much appreciated. He has a Dr appt tom and need some

> direction on what

> to ask for....

>

> Also, his current meds include 75 mcg T3, 30 mg Cortef.

>

> Testosterone  546 (300-1080)

>

> SHBG  56  (11-80)

>

> Free Test   76   (47-244)

>

> % Free Testosterone  1.4  (1.6 - 2.9)

>

> Kim

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Hoping for some help here. My husband is 40 yrs old and has been using n

> T Cypionate injections for around 6 mos. He has tried various dosing

> strategies, at the time of these labs he was using 300mgs every 2 wks

> IM. His Free T is sinking lower and lower. His libido is in the dirt,

> pretty bad when the wife is begging for a little lovin [] . He has

> used Arimidex in the past and it only made it worse, any help is very

> much appreciated. He has a Dr appt tom and need some direction on what

> to ask for....

>

> Also, his current meds include 75 mcg T3, 30 mg Cortef.

>

> Testosterone 546 (300-1080)

>

> SHBG 56 (11-80)

>

> Free Test 76 (47-244)

>

> % Free Testosterone 1.4 (1.6 - 2.9)

>

> Kim

Hi,

how about his e2 levels? bet their sky high with that big a dose spread that far

apart.

try 150mg every week instead.

you say he's tried arimidex...how much how frequently?

you might want to start around 1/4mg (1/4tab) every other day until his libido

and erections come back....

if he was taking like a whole tab every day without additional testosterone it's

no surprise it didn't work.

ttyl

[Guest guest]

Thanks guys! He had his Dr appt yesterday and has an RX for HCG. Hopefully the

pharm won't have a problem filling it. When he took the Arimidex he took it

incorrectly and after it was already to late we realized he had been doubling

the dose, this was the beginning of the end of his libido I think.

The Dr agreed to the dosing instructions you had rec so we will see, I will

report back.

Thanks tons!!!

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > Hoping for some help here. My husband is 40 yrs old and has been using n

> > T Cypionate injections for around 6 mos. He has tried various dosing

> > strategies, at the time of these labs he was using 300mgs every 2 wks

> > IM. His Free T is sinking lower and lower. His libido is in the dirt,

> > pretty bad when the wife is begging for a little lovin [] . He has

> > used Arimidex in the past and it only made it worse, any help is very

> > much appreciated. He has a Dr appt tom and need some direction on what

> > to ask for....

> >

> > Also, his current meds include 75 mcg T3, 30 mg Cortef.

> >

> > Testosterone 546 (300-1080)

> >

> > SHBG 56 (11-80)

> >

> > Free Test 76 (47-244)

> >

> > % Free Testosterone 1.4 (1.6 - 2.9)

> >

> > Kim

>

> Hi,

>

> how about his e2 levels? bet their sky high with that big a dose spread that

far apart.

>

> try 150mg every week instead.

>

> you say he's tried arimidex...how much how frequently?

>

> you might want to start around 1/4mg (1/4tab) every other day until his libido

and erections come back....

>

> if he was taking like a whole tab every day without additional testosterone

it's no surprise it didn't work.

>

> ttyl

>

[Guest guest]

OK now all that needs to be done is to stop Arimidex until his night time and

morning wood comes back then that day go back on the Arimidex because the

rebound effect is fast and if he waits it can go back up very fast and get to

high. So go back on .25 mgs every 2 or 3 days and in about 5 weeks do labs.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Kim <kimhssbrk@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with husbands libido

>

> Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 10:26 AM

> Thanks guys! He had his Dr appt

> yesterday and has an RX for HCG. Hopefully the pharm won't

> have a problem filling it. When he took the Arimidex he took

> it incorrectly and after it was already to late we realized

> he had been doubling the dose, this was the beginning of the

> end of his libido I think.

>

> The Dr agreed to the dosing instructions you had rec so we

> will see, I will report back.

>

> Thanks tons!!!

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > Hoping for some help here. My husband is 40 yrs

> old and has been using n

> > > T Cypionate injections for around 6 mos. He has

> tried various dosing

> > > strategies, at the time of these labs he was

> using 300mgs every 2 wks

> > > IM.  His Free T is sinking lower and lower.

> His libido is in the dirt,

> > > pretty bad when  the wife is begging for a

> little lovin [] .  He has

> > > used Arimidex in the past and it only made it

> worse, any help is very

> > > much appreciated. He has a Dr appt tom and need

> some direction on what

> > > to ask for....

> > >

> > > Also, his current meds include 75 mcg T3, 30 mg

> Cortef.

> > >

> > > Testosterone  546 (300-1080)

> > >

> > > SHBG  56  (11-80)

> > >

> > > Free

> Test   76   (47-244)

> > >

> > > % Free Testosterone  1.4  (1.6 - 2.9)

> > >

> > > Kim

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > how about his e2 levels? bet their sky high with that

> big a dose spread that far apart.

> >

> > try 150mg every week instead.

> >

> > you say he's tried arimidex...how much how

> frequently?

> >

> > you might want to start around 1/4mg (1/4tab) every

> other day until his libido and erections come back....

> >

> > if he was taking like a whole tab every day without

> additional testosterone it's no surprise it didn't work.

> >

> > ttyl

> >

>

>

>

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