Re: Allergy problem with both cypionate and enathate

[Guest guest]

If the Clomid got your levels up this means your Secondary and you need this

looked into to rule out a tumor in your pituitary. And if Clomid worked so will

HCG start with 100 IU's everyday in a shot this will act like the LH and FSH

messages sent to your Testis to make Testosterone and they will kick in and make

it.

Can you tell me what your labs were and how long you gave the shots to work. In

some men when they do TRT the change is levels of hormones will make them itch

or have hard and sore nipples it is not the T but the body reacting to the

change and in a short time this stops.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: invstri <Invstri@...>

> Subject: Allergy problem with both cypionate and enathate

>

> Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:38 PM

> I have had to stop taking my T shots

> because of itchy skin and overall allergic problems with the

> shots about 2 years ago. i even tried the buccal in my mouth

> and similar itchy things happened.   I have

> increased my own T by using zinc to reduce my

> estradiol  which in turns helps me to get to about 300

> total T.. Not great but almost enough to do the job. 

> Since I have secondary hypogonadism my problem originates in

> my pituitary / hypothalmus axis...   Clomid

> used to do the trick many years ago, but i discontinued

> it..    Would any of you think that some use of

> HCG  help ??  Isn't it in a saline solution which

> would negate any allergic reaction ???  Any opinions

> would be very welcome as i need to get back to a higher

> level of T to feel a little bit stronger.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil,

I have had hypogonadism for over 20 years. It is definetely

secondary as the clomid helped me achieve potency and i was able to have 2

children. It was an allergic reaction to the enathate and cypionate , i had

subdermals with an allergist and they got itchy, red. Sometimes immediate ,

sometimes a slight delay. We did a subdermal with just plain sesame seed oil and

the same thing, it seems to be the suspension vehicle. I wonder if the

allergist could get some crystalline T and do a scratch test?. In any event

the T shots took me up to 800 T and was able to control my estradiol with zinc.

but after 2 years of injections i became sensitized to them. So i am thinking of

a way to get that healthy physical and sexual feeling back.

Mark

>

> > From: invstri <Invstri@...>

> > Subject: Allergy problem with both cypionate and enathate

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:38 PM

> > I have had to stop taking my T shots

> > because of itchy skin and overall allergic problems with the

> > shots about 2 years ago. i even tried the buccal in my mouth

> > and similar itchy things happened.   I have

> > increased my own T by using zinc to reduce my

> > estradiol  which in turns helps me to get to about 300

> > total T.. Not great but almost enough to do the job. 

> > Since I have secondary hypogonadism my problem originates in

> > my pituitary / hypothalmus axis...   Clomid

> > used to do the trick many years ago, but i discontinued

> > it..    Would any of you think that some use of

> > HCG  help ??  Isn't it in a saline solution which

> > would negate any allergic reaction ???  Any opinions

> > would be very welcome as i need to get back to a higher

> > level of T to feel a little bit stronger.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You can try a compounding Pharmacy like College call them and tell them your

problem I am sure they can mix you up something that will work. Or just try

HCG.

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/menshealth/andropause.asp

You need to keep your levels up to stay healthy.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: invstri <Invstri@...>

> Subject: Re: Allergy problem with both cypionate and enathate

>

> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:28 PM

> Hi Phil,

>

>              I have

> had hypogonadism for over 20 years. It is definetely

> secondary as the clomid helped me achieve potency and i was

> able to have 2 children. It was an allergic reaction to the

> enathate and cypionate , i had subdermals with an allergist

> and they got itchy, red. Sometimes immediate , sometimes a

> slight delay. We did a subdermal with just plain sesame seed

> oil and the same thing, it seems to be the suspension

> vehicle.  I wonder if the allergist could get some

> crystalline T and do a scratch test?.   In

> any event the T shots took me up to 800 T and was able to

> control my estradiol with zinc. but after 2 years of

> injections i became sensitized to them. So i am thinking of

> a way to get that healthy physical and sexual feeling back.

>

>

> Mark

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: invstri <Invstri@...>

> > > Subject: Allergy problem with both

> cypionate and enathate

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:38 PM

> > > I have had to stop taking my T shots

> > > because of itchy skin and overall allergic

> problems with the

> > > shots about 2 years ago. i even tried the buccal

> in my mouth

> > > and similar itchy things happened.   I have

> > > increased my own T by using zinc to reduce my

> > > estradiol  which in turns helps me to get to

> about 300

> > > total T.. Not great but almost enough to do the

> job. 

> > > Since I have secondary hypogonadism my problem

> originates in

> > > my pituitary / hypothalmus axis...   Clomid

> > > used to do the trick many years ago, but i

> discontinued

> > > it..    Would any of you think that some use

> of

> > > HCG  help ??  Isn't it in a saline solution

> which

> > > would negate any allergic reaction ???  Any

> opinions

> > > would be very welcome as i need to get back to a

> higher

> > > level of T to feel a little bit stronger.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Phil,

Thank you so much for the link to this pharmacy. I will be calling them

soon to see if they can help with my allergy problems. Hopefully it is something

they are familiar with and can consult with my doctor to come up with an allergy

free solution. This board is so lucky to have someone like you to give the most

helpful of advice and guidance. --

p.s. you should have been a doctor !!!

thanks

Mark

> > >

> > > > From: invstri <Invstri@>

> > > > Subject: Allergy problem with both

> > cypionate and enathate

> > > >

> > > > Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:38 PM

> > > > I have had to stop taking my T shots

> > > > because of itchy skin and overall allergic

> > problems with the

> > > > shots about 2 years ago. i even tried the buccal

> > in my mouth

> > > > and similar itchy things happened.   I have

> > > > increased my own T by using zinc to reduce my

> > > > estradiol  which in turns helps me to get to

> > about 300

> > > > total T.. Not great but almost enough to do the

> > job. 

> > > > Since I have secondary hypogonadism my problem

> > originates in

> > > > my pituitary / hypothalmus axis...   Clomid

> > > > used to do the trick many years ago, but i

> > discontinued

> > > > it..    Would any of you think that some use

> > of

> > > > HCG  help ??  Isn't it in a saline solution

> > which

> > > > would negate any allergic reaction ???  Any

> > opinions

> > > > would be very welcome as i need to get back to a

> > higher

> > > > level of T to feel a little bit stronger.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Your welcome no don't what to be a Dr. I do this because when I came here I was

lost and giving up they helped me so much I got my life back. So I am passing

it forward. You can read my story at this link and the Heart sugary update. I

just can't see men going through the crap I had to and I am not a lone.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: invstri <Invstri@...>

> Subject: Re: Allergy problem with both cypionate and enathate

>

> Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 4:01 PM

> Phil,

>

>        Thank you so much for the

> link to this pharmacy. I will be calling them soon to see if

> they can help with my allergy problems. Hopefully it is

> something they are familiar with and can consult with my

> doctor to come up with an allergy free solution. This board

> is so lucky to have someone like you to give the most

> helpful of advice and guidance. --

>

> p.s. you should have been a doctor !!!

>

> thanks

>

> Mark

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: invstri <Invstri@>

> > > > > Subject: Allergy problem

> with both

> > > cypionate and enathate

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:38

> PM

> > > > > I have had to stop taking my T shots

> > > > > because of itchy skin and overall

> allergic

> > > problems with the

> > > > > shots about 2 years ago. i even tried

> the buccal

> > > in my mouth

> > > > > and similar itchy things

> happened.   I have

> > > > > increased my own T by using zinc to

> reduce my

> > > > > estradiol  which in turns helps me to

> get to

> > > about 300

> > > > > total T.. Not great but almost enough

> to do the

> > > job. 

> > > > > Since I have secondary hypogonadism my

> problem

> > > originates in

> > > > > my pituitary / hypothalmus

> axis...   Clomid

> > > > > used to do the trick many years ago,

> but i

> > > discontinued

> > > > > it..    Would any of you think that

> some use

> > > of

> > > > > HCG  help ??  Isn't it in a saline

> solution

> > > which

> > > > > would negate any allergic reaction

> ???  Any

> > > opinions

> > > > > would be very welcome as i need to get

> back to a

> > > higher

> > > > > level of T to feel a little bit

> stronger.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >