Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 I started on HGH last Nov. .3mgs or .9 IU's at day at bedtime. Dose it work hell yes but they started me at to high a dose so I had to stop it and start back on it. Eight weeks ago I started back on it at .15mgs shot every night at bedtime. I feel much better on this sleep like a baby sex is great. I am told I needed Heart Bypass surger 20 months ago because my low levels of GH messed up my heart. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > Subject: Does HGH really work? > > Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:12 PM > After reading stuff like this:http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/a/HGH_aging.htmI > just wanna cry... > Cause I am told to start HGH-injections within a few days > (still haven't ordered it though) and it's supposed to help > me heal! However... I have my doubts this is a SAFE > treatment for hypothyroidism. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Did you heart improve? My thing is.. if you read my new post.. I don't know if I need it! > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > Subject: Does HGH really work? > > Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:12 PM > After reading stuff like this:http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/a/HGH_aging.htmI > just wanna cry... > Cause I am told to start HGH-injections within a few days > (still haven't ordered it though) and it's supposed to help > me heal! However... I have my doubts this is a SAFE > treatment for hypothyroidism. > > > > > Â Â Â > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 My heart is fine after the bypass surgery no damage I am on HGH so it stays this way. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > > > Subject: Does HGH really work? > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:12 PM > > > After reading stuff like this:http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/a/HGH_aging.htmI > > > just wanna cry... > > > Cause I am told to start HGH-injections within a few > days > > > (still haven't ordered it though) and it's supposed to > help > > > me heal! However... I have my doubts this is a SAFE > > > treatment for hypothyroidism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 What about all the negative reports about how internal organs such as the heart, can get enlarged and kill people taking HGH? Like what happened to that woman who won the sprint or whatever back in the olympics in 88' ? > > > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > > > Subject: Does HGH really work? > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:12 PM > > > After reading stuff like this:http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/a/HGH_aging.htmI > > > just wanna cry... > > > Cause I am told to start HGH-injections within a few > days > > > (still haven't ordered it though) and it's supposed to > help > > > me heal! However... I have my doubts this is a SAFE > > > treatment for hypothyroidism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â Â Â > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 You need to have enough growth hormone to repair your body everyday. that is why Phil's doctors think his heart was damaged. Without daily growth hormone your muscles break down...Athletes that abuse hormones are not using physilogical amounts they are using it to increase their athletic performance. If you drink alcohol you secrete no growth hormone that evening, too. So that one glass of wine or beer can also ruin your growth hormone. I don't think growth hormone has a feedback loop what ever you add to your body is not down regulated form your natural supply. If you don't want to take it then don't do it until you are comfortable, you should never be afraid of your treatment you should be in control and be making your treatment decisions. I take insulin, growth hormone, thyroid, HC, estrogen, testosterone, a BP med to stay alive but I don't think of myself as sick I am just a little inconvenience.... I am healthy and these are my tools to stay that way...I am almost 49 yrs and have had T1 diabetes for almost 30 years it has been rough sometimes but the way I see it I got to add 30 years to my life with the tool insulin.... Both Phil and myself damaged our pituitary from a head injury. My MRI showed nothing as was expected but I had no response to the Growth hormone stimulation test. My doctor said that they are finding that lack of growth hormone is one of the first signs of pituitary damage. Judy > > What about all the negative reports about how internal organs such as the heart, can get enlarged and kill people taking HGH? Like what happened to that woman who won the sprint or whatever back in the olympics in 88' ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 To support what Judy stated, the athletes who take HGH do so in very, very large quantities. And even then, a lot of them don't have any complications long term - just look at any retired professional cyclist from the 80's and 90's. The people who did suffer long term consequences from HGH use took enough of it to kill a small horse . Trust me, you would bankrupt yourself trying to take the amounts that they did. If you are still hesitant to take it, you could always try doing GHRP-6, or another secretagogue to see if you can't induce your pituitary to produce it's own normal levels of HGH (assuming your pituitary isn't damaged). Hope this helps. Mike On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:34 PM, zashes11 <zashes11@...> wrote: > > > You need to have enough growth hormone to repair your body everyday. that > is why Phil's doctors think his heart was damaged. Without daily growth > hormone your muscles break down...Athletes that abuse hormones are not using > physilogical amounts they are using it to increase their athletic > performance. > > If you drink alcohol you secrete no growth hormone that evening, too. So > that one glass of wine or beer can also ruin your growth hormone. > > I don't think growth hormone has a feedback loop what ever you add to your > body is not down regulated form your natural supply. > > If you don't want to take it then don't do it until you are comfortable, > you should never be afraid of your treatment you should be in control and be > making your treatment decisions. > > I take insulin, growth hormone, thyroid, HC, estrogen, testosterone, a BP > med to stay alive but I don't think of myself as sick I am just a little > inconvenience.... > > I am healthy and these are my tools to stay that way...I am almost 49 yrs > and have had T1 diabetes for almost 30 years it has been rough sometimes but > the way I see it I got to add 30 years to my life with the tool insulin.... > > Both Phil and myself damaged our pituitary from a head injury. My MRI > showed nothing as was expected but I had no response to the Growth hormone > stimulation test. My doctor said that they are finding that lack of growth > hormone is one of the first signs of pituitary damage. > > Judy > > > > > > What about all the negative reports about how internal organs such as the > heart, can get enlarged and kill people taking HGH? Like what happened to > that woman who won the sprint or whatever back in the olympics in 88' ? > > > > > -- Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Them people were not taking it for low Growth Hormone levels and they were doing large dose's of it. We have Dr. Ullis that posts there from time time here is a YouTube on Sermorelin a type of med that makes your body make it's own GH check it out. I don't use this because my Pituitary does not tell my body to make GH. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > > > > > > > Subject: Does HGH really work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:12 PM > > > > > > > After reading stuff like this:http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/a/HGH_aging.htmI > > > > > > > just wanna cry... > > > > > > > Cause I am told to start HGH-injections within a > few > > > days > > > > > > > (still haven't ordered it though) and it's > supposed to > > > help > > > > > > > me heal! However... I have my doubts this is a > SAFE > > > > > > > treatment for hypothyroidism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Well said Judy thanks. Co-Moderator Phil > From: zashes11 <zashes11@...> > Subject: Re: Does HGH really work? > > Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 6:34 PM > You need to have enough growth > hormone to repair your body everyday. that is why Phil's > doctors think his heart was damaged. Without daily growth > hormone your muscles break down...Athletes that abuse > hormones are not using physilogical amounts they are using > it to increase their athletic performance. > > If you drink alcohol you secrete no growth hormone that > evening, too. So that one glass of wine or beer can also > ruin your growth hormone. > > I don't think growth hormone has a feedback loop what ever > you add to your body is not down regulated form your natural > supply. > > If you don't want to take it then don't do it until you are > comfortable, you should never be afraid of your treatment > you should be in control and be making your treatment > decisions. > > I take insulin, growth hormone, thyroid, HC, estrogen, > testosterone, a BP med to stay alive but I don't think of > myself as sick I am just a little inconvenience.... > > I am healthy and these are my tools to stay that way...I am > almost 49 yrs and have had T1 diabetes for almost 30 years > it has been rough sometimes but the way I see it I got to > add 30 years to my life with the tool insulin.... > > Both Phil and myself damaged our pituitary from a head > injury. My MRI showed nothing as was expected but I had no > response to the Growth hormone stimulation test. My doctor > said that they are finding that lack of growth hormone is > one of the first signs of pituitary damage. > > Judy > > > > > > > > > What about all the negative reports about how internal > organs such as the heart, can get enlarged and kill people > taking HGH? Like what happened to that woman who won the > sprint or whatever back in the olympics in 88' ? > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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