Re: Estrogen and osteoporosis

[Guest guest]

It's ture to some extstent but most men that have low Testosterone have bone

loss and high Estadol levels. Do some labs check this out see how your levels

look having high Estradiol you can end up with high SHBG this binds up your

Total T in your body so it's not working so even if your on TRT with high levels

of SHBG and Estradiol you can end up with bone loss.

I take Aromasin it comes in 25 mgs tabs I cut them in half and take 12.5 mgs

every 3 to 4 days my Estradol levels doing this are 21 pm/ml this is the sweet

spot.

Or you can try Indolplex/DIM

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> Subject: Estrogen and osteoporosis

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 2:43 AM

> Hey Group,

>

> My PCP said that I have the very, very beginnings of

> osteoporosis. I told

> him I was on cytomel (which can cause this he said), low

> dose medrol (which

> can but he said my dose is within physiological limits) and

> that I have/had

> high estrogen. He thinks that may be the culprit. Is this

> true? If so, what

> can I do about it?

>

> Thank,s

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Estrogen is protective against osteoporosis. One of the risks of taking E2 too

low is osteoporosis. I don't see how high E2 could be the problem.

>

> Hey Group,

>

> My PCP said that I have the very, very beginnings of osteoporosis. I told

> him I was on cytomel (which can cause this he said), low dose medrol (which

> can but he said my dose is within physiological limits) and that I have/had

> high estrogen. He thinks that may be the culprit. Is this true? If so, what

> can I do about it?

>

> Thank,s

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I thought the problem with high estradiol was that testosterone levels are

traditionally low when estradiol is high. Estradiol prevents bones from

breaking down, but doesn't really build bone, which I recall testosterone

encourages.

Mike, what testing was done to suggest you have bone loss? What about any

bone density testing in the past?

-Nigel

On 23 March 2011 10:44, wayback44 <no_reply > wrote:

>

>

> Estrogen is protective against osteoporosis. One of the risks of taking E2

> too low is osteoporosis. I don't see how high E2 could be the problem.

>

>

>

> >

> > Hey Group,

> >

> > My PCP said that I have the very, very beginnings of osteoporosis. I told

> > him I was on cytomel (which can cause this he said), low dose medrol

> (which

> > can but he said my dose is within physiological limits) and that I

> have/had

> > high estrogen. He thinks that may be the culprit. Is this true? If so,

> what

> > can I do about it?

> >

> > Thank,s

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I think osteo is from too low thyroid (not enough energy to build bone), too

high thyroid (bone turns over too fast), too low testosterone, or too much

cortisol. If you were hypo, but are now taking too much T3 with medrol, and are

still low T, that would be the perfect storm. They say osteo is only a woman's

problem but that's not true. I have not lost 1 " of height since high school.

DH has shrunk and I thought I was just wearing higher heels. He has probably

been low thyroid and low testosterone most of his adult life. Then he took too

much HC (30 mg) and Armour (3 grains) based on STTM recommendations. *sigh*

Barb

>

> Hey Group,

>

> My PCP said that I have the very, very beginnings of osteoporosis. I told

> him I was on cytomel (which can cause this he said), low dose medrol (which

> can but he said my dose is within physiological limits) and that I have/had

> high estrogen. He thinks that may be the culprit. Is this true? If so, what

> can I do about it?

>

> Thank,s

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Even on TRT Nigel and Mike you can end up with low Free and Bio Testosterone

levels this is the Testosterone that is unbound and working in your body if your

SHBG is to high from high Estradiol your Free and Bio levels can end up low and

your body is not being supported by your Testosterone and you can have bone

loss.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >

> >

> > Estrogen is protective against osteoporosis. One of

> the risks of taking E2

> > too low is osteoporosis. I don't see how high E2 could

> be the problem.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hey Group,

> > >

> > > My PCP said that I have the very, very beginnings

> of osteoporosis. I told

> > > him I was on cytomel (which can cause this he

> said), low dose medrol

> > (which

> > > can but he said my dose is within physiological

> limits) and that I

> > have/had

> > > high estrogen. He thinks that may be the culprit.

> Is this true? If so,

> > what

> > > can I do about it?

> > >

> > > Thank,s

> > >

> > > --

> > > Mike

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

> > 

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well said and I feel it's ture too much HC and Armour type meds is not good

shooting for top of Free T3 range is not all that good go for feeling better not

numbers. I learned this the hard way.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Re: Estrogen and osteoporosis

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 12:29 PM

> I think osteo is from too low thyroid

> (not enough energy to build bone), too high thyroid (bone

> turns over too fast), too low testosterone, or too much

> cortisol.  If you were hypo, but are now taking too

> much T3 with medrol, and are still low T, that would be the

> perfect storm.  They say osteo is only a woman's

> problem but that's not true.  I have not lost 1 " of

> height since high school.  DH has shrunk and I thought

> I was just wearing higher heels.  He has probably been

> low thyroid and low testosterone most of his adult

> life.  Then he took too much HC (30 mg) and Armour (3

> grains) based on STTM recommendations. *sigh*

>

> Barb

>

>

>

> >

> > Hey Group,

> >

> > My PCP said that I have the very, very beginnings of

> osteoporosis. I told

> > him I was on cytomel (which can cause this he said),

> low dose medrol (which

> > can but he said my dose is within physiological

> limits) and that I have/had

> > high estrogen. He thinks that may be the culprit. Is

> this true? If so, what

> > can I do about it?

> >

> > Thank,s

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >