Latest Test Results (Comments ?)

[Guest guest]

Just got back from the doctor for my 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood work

and recommended going to checks every 5 mths since my blood work is fairly

stable. I have some areas of concern:hematocrit,red blood

cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and cholesterol.The doc wants to try 3000ml of fish

oil/day before statin drugs.My stats: 56 yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than

fat,bp 134/84 w/meds. I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp 200mg/ml inject 2x

weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel daily,zinc/copper 50mg 2x daily,L-Carnitine 250mg

2x daily,L-Arginine 1000mg 2x daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and Indoplex/DIM 300mg

2x daily

Blood Work:

RBC 6.91 ref. 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

Hemoglobin 19.8 ref. 12.8-16.8 g/dl

Hematocrit 59.6 ref. 38.0-48.0 thous/mcl

Globulin 1.9 ref. 2.3-3.5 gm/dl

Estradiol 43 ref. 20-75 gm/dl

Cholesterol 234 ref 130-200 pg/ml

HDL 27.5 ref 29.0-75.0 mg/dl

LDL 179.5 ref 0.0-130 mg/dl

Triglyceride 155 ref. 30-190 mg/dl

Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref 0.0-4.5 ng/ml

Albumin 4.5 ref. 3.5-5.2 g/dL

SHBG 40 ref. 13-71 nmol/L

Testosterone 641 ref. 280-712 ng/dL

Free

Testosterone 10.49 ref 3.68-19.13ng/d L

%Free

Testosterone 1.6% ref. 1.6-2.9

Bioavailable

Testosterone 316.8 ref 101-534 ng/dL

Comments please

Thanks,

Butch

[Guest guest]

Gasper,

My Dr. told me to stop taking Fish Oil you can't find good fish oil. I now take

Krill Oil capliques 1,000 mgs. 2 with food morning from www.mercola.com.

I have Statin Drug damage to my joints and muscles and take the following to

help keep my Chol. levels down and my Homocysteine Cardiovasecular levels down

this is the inflomation in your blood that plugs up your artereies.

What Country do you live in your units are not the same as we have in the USA.

When you do labs you need to drink a lot of water everyday and before your labs

or your Hemoglogin and Hematocrit will look high like this.

Your Estraidol test is a women's test but still to high best near 20.

As you get this down your Free and Bio Testosterone levels will come up.

==========================================

· TMG 750mg 1pm and 11pm 2 pills a day.

· Solary Super Bio C 2 x’s/day 1000 mgs. Total.

· l-Arginine and l-Orthinine 100 Capsules, 750 mg, Twinlab 1 at bedtime.

· NOW brand ZMA 800mgs 3 at bedtime.

· Copper 2mgs 1 at noon.

· Dr. Cranton's PrimeNutrients 3/day.

· Biotics Bio-D-Mulsion Forte Vit. D 2000 IU's per drop I am doing 10

drops a day.

· Iodoral Iodine 1 tab / day 12.5 mgs.

· I went with NOW brand for the following supplements do to a high

levels on a Homocysteine Cardiovascular and below normal level of Folate RBC

labs.

· NAC N-Acetyl Cysteine, Selenium, Molybdenum - 600 mg.

· B-12 (Brain) Methylcobalamin - 5000 mcg lozenges. 3x’s/week.

· Coenzyme B Complex.

· P-5-P (Coenzyme B6) 50 mg.

· I am taking 800 mcg. Folacal for low Folate RBC.

· BioCitrate Selenium - 200 mcg 1x’s / day morning.

· Ubiquinol Capliques Featuring Kaneka's Qh mercola.com.

· Lecithin 1200 mgs 2 caps 2x’s/day.

· Acetyl-L Carnitine 500 mg 3x’s/day.

· Alpha Lipoic Acid 250 mg/day.

· Krill Oil capliques 1,000 mgs. 2 with food morning mercola.com

· Life-Extension-PQQ-Caps-with-Bio-PQQ-10-mgs./day.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@...>

> Subject: Latest Test Results (Comments ?)

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30 AM

> Just got back from the doctor for my

> 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood work and recommended

> going to checks every 5 mths since my blood work is fairly

> stable. I have some areas of concern:hematocrit,red blood

> cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and cholesterol.The doc wants to

> try 3000ml of fish oil/day before statin drugs.My stats: 56

> yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than fat,bp 134/84 w/meds.

> I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp 200mg/ml inject 2x

> weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel daily,zinc/copper 50mg 2x

> daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x daily,L-Arginine 1000mg 2x

> daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and Indoplex/DIM 300mg 2x daily

>

> Blood Work:

>

> RBC          6.91  ref.

> 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> Hemoglobin  19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8 g/dl

> Hematocrit  59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> thous/mcl

> Globulin     1.9   ref.

> 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

>

> Estradiol   43     ref.

> 20-75 gm/dl

>

> Cholesterol 234    ref  130-200 pg/ml

> HDL     

>    27.5   ref  29.0-75.0

> mg/dl

> LDL         179.5 

> ref  0.0-130   mg/dl

> Triglyceride 155   ref. 30-190   

> mg/dl

> Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

>

> Albumin     4.5    ref.

> 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> SHBG        40 

>    ref. 13-71     nmol/L

> Testosterone 641   ref.

> 280-712   ng/dL

> Free

> Testosterone 10.49 ref  3.68-19.13ng/d L

> %Free

> Testosterone 1.6%  ref. 1.6-2.9

> Bioavailable

> Testosterone 316.8 ref  101-534  ng/dL

>

> Comments please

>

> Thanks,

> Butch   

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil, I live right here in Michigan. The blood test results were given by a

local hospital in Rochester,Mi Although some tests were refered out. To where I

don't know. I asked the doctor if the ranges had changed or if they were

different and he said yes.Can you tell anything from the results given? I like

my doc but you guys seem to able to evaluate blood work alittle better.Can I get

my estradiol levels down by taking indolplex/dim or should I consider something

else?

>

> > From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@...>

> > Subject: Latest Test Results (Comments ?)

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30 AM

> > Just got back from the doctor for my

> > 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood work and recommended

> > going to checks every 5 mths since my blood work is fairly

> > stable. I have some areas of concern:hematocrit,red blood

> > cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and cholesterol.The doc wants to

> > try 3000ml of fish oil/day before statin drugs.My stats: 56

> > yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than fat,bp 134/84 w/meds.

> > I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp 200mg/ml inject 2x

> > weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel daily,zinc/copper 50mg 2x

> > daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x daily,L-Arginine 1000mg 2x

> > daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and Indoplex/DIM 300mg 2x daily

> >

> > Blood Work:

> >

> > RBC          6.91  ref.

> > 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> > Hemoglobin  19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8 g/dl

> > Hematocrit  59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> > thous/mcl

> > Globulin     1.9   ref.

> > 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

> >

> > Estradiol   43     ref.

> > 20-75 gm/dl

> >

> > Cholesterol 234    ref  130-200 pg/ml

> > HDL     

> >    27.5   ref  29.0-75.0

> > mg/dl

> > LDL         179.5 

> > ref  0.0-130   mg/dl

> > Triglyceride 155   ref. 30-190   

> > mg/dl

> > Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

> >

> > Albumin     4.5    ref.

> > 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> > SHBG        40 

> >    ref. 13-71     nmol/L

> > Testosterone 641   ref.

> > 280-712   ng/dL

> > Free

> > Testosterone 10.49 ref  3.68-19.13ng/d L

> > %Free

> > Testosterone 1.6%  ref. 1.6-2.9

> > Bioavailable

> > Testosterone 316.8 ref  101-534  ng/dL

> >

> > Comments please

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Butch   

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I live in MI. Rochester Hills I never do labs with Hosp.'s they are not anygood.

I do all my labs with Quest labs and yes you can get your Estradiol levels down

with Indolplex/DIM take one tablet at dinner time. It will take a few weeks to

get it down but when it's in the sweet spot you will get some strong night time

and morning wood. I gage by my wood in my sleep how good my levels are.

IF you lose your wood after getting it back it can mean you went to low. So

just stop the Indolplex/DIM until you wood comes back that day go back on the

DIM but cut the tab in half.

My Dr. is s in Alburn Hills 248-377-0600 in case you feel like you need a

dam good one.

Dr. in Mi. is about the best in the world men fly in to see him but he will

not use your health care plain you need to pay him and get the money back on

your own.

www.allthingsmale.com go there and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and His HCG

update.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@...>

> Subject: Re: Latest Test Results (Comments ?)

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 3:08 PM

> Phil, I live right here in Michigan.

> The blood test results were given by a local hospital

> in  Rochester,Mi Although some tests were refered out.

> To where I don't know. I asked the doctor if the ranges had

> changed or if they were different and he said yes.Can you

> tell anything from the results given? I like my doc but you

> guys seem to able to evaluate blood work alittle better.Can

> I get my estradiol levels down by taking indolplex/dim or

> should I consider something else?

>

> >

> > > From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@...>

> > > Subject: Latest Test Results

> (Comments ?)

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30 AM

> > > Just got back from the doctor for my

> > > 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood work and

> recommended

> > > going to checks every 5 mths since my blood work

> is fairly

> > > stable. I have some areas of

> concern:hematocrit,red blood

> > > cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and cholesterol.The doc

> wants to

> > > try 3000ml of fish oil/day before statin drugs.My

> stats: 56

> > > yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than fat,bp

> 134/84 w/meds.

> > > I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp 200mg/ml

> inject 2x

> > > weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel daily,zinc/copper

> 50mg 2x

> > > daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x daily,L-Arginine

> 1000mg 2x

> > > daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and Indoplex/DIM 300mg

> 2x daily

> > >

> > > Blood Work:

> > >

> > > RBC          6.91  ref.

> > > 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> > > Hemoglobin  19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8

> g/dl

> > > Hematocrit  59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> > > thous/mcl

> > > Globulin     1.9   ref.

> > > 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

> > >

> > > Estradiol   43     ref.

> > > 20-75 gm/dl

> > >

> > > Cholesterol 234    ref  130-200 pg/ml

> > > HDL     

> > >    27.5   ref  29.0-75.0

> > > mg/dl

> > > LDL         179.5 

> > > ref  0.0-130   mg/dl

> > > Triglyceride 155   ref. 30-190   

> > > mg/dl

> > > Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

> > >

> > > Albumin     4.5    ref.

> > > 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> > > SHBG        40 

> > >    ref. 13-71     nmol/L

> > > Testosterone 641   ref.

> > > 280-712   ng/dL

> > > Free

> > > Testosterone 10.49 ref  3.68-19.13ng/d L

> > > %Free

> > > Testosterone 1.6%  ref. 1.6-2.9

> > > Bioavailable

> > > Testosterone 316.8 ref  101-534  ng/dL

> > >

> > > Comments please

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Butch   

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

---Phil

I go to Dr s as well. How to you get your labs to Quest. He sent mine to

Crittenton Hospital.

In , philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> I live in MI. Rochester Hills I never do labs with Hosp.'s they are not

anygood. I do all my labs with Quest labs and yes you can get your Estradiol

levels down with Indolplex/DIM take one tablet at dinner time. It will take a

few weeks to get it down but when it's in the sweet spot you will get some

strong night time and morning wood. I gage by my wood in my sleep how good my

levels are.

>

> IF you lose your wood after getting it back it can mean you went to low. So

just stop the Indolplex/DIM until you wood comes back that day go back on the

DIM but cut the tab in half.

>

> My Dr. is s in Alburn Hills 248-377-0600 in case you feel like you need

a dam good one.

>

> Dr. in Mi. is about the best in the world men fly in to see him but he

will not use your health care plain you need to pay him and get the money back

on your own.

> www.allthingsmale.com go there and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and His HCG

update.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

>

>

> > From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@...>

> > Subject: Re: Latest Test Results (Comments ?)

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 3:08 PM

> > Phil, I live right here in Michigan.

> > The blood test results were given by a local hospital

> > in  Rochester,Mi Although some tests were refered out.

> > To where I don't know. I asked the doctor if the ranges had

> > changed or if they were different and he said yes.Can you

> > tell anything from the results given? I like my doc but you

> > guys seem to able to evaluate blood work alittle better.Can

> > I get my estradiol levels down by taking indolplex/dim or

> > should I consider something else?

> >

> > >

> > > > From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@>

> > > > Subject: Latest Test Results

> > (Comments ?)

> > > >

> > > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30 AM

> > > > Just got back from the doctor for my

> > > > 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood work and

> > recommended

> > > > going to checks every 5 mths since my blood work

> > is fairly

> > > > stable. I have some areas of

> > concern:hematocrit,red blood

> > > > cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and cholesterol.The doc

> > wants to

> > > > try 3000ml of fish oil/day before statin drugs.My

> > stats: 56

> > > > yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than fat,bp

> > 134/84 w/meds.

> > > > I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp 200mg/ml

> > inject 2x

> > > > weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel daily,zinc/copper

> > 50mg 2x

> > > > daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x daily,L-Arginine

> > 1000mg 2x

> > > > daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and Indoplex/DIM 300mg

> > 2x daily

> > > >

> > > > Blood Work:

> > > >

> > > > RBC          6.91  ref.

> > > > 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> > > > Hemoglobin  19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8

> > g/dl

> > > > Hematocrit  59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> > > > thous/mcl

> > > > Globulin     1.9   ref.

> > > > 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

> > > >

> > > > Estradiol   43     ref.

> > > > 20-75 gm/dl

> > > >

> > > > Cholesterol 234    ref  130-200 pg/ml

> > > > HDL     

> > > >    27.5   ref  29.0-75.0

> > > > mg/dl

> > > > LDL         179.5 

> > > > ref  0.0-130   mg/dl

> > > > Triglyceride 155   ref. 30-190   

> > > > mg/dl

> > > > Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

> > > >

> > > > Albumin     4.5    ref.

> > > > 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> > > > SHBG        40 

> > > >    ref. 13-71     nmol/L

> > > > Testosterone 641   ref.

> > > > 280-712   ng/dL

> > > > Free

> > > > Testosterone 10.49 ref  3.68-19.13ng/d L

> > > > %Free

> > > > Testosterone 1.6%  ref. 1.6-2.9

> > > > Bioavailable

> > > > Testosterone 316.8 ref  101-534  ng/dL

> > > >

> > > > Comments please

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Butch   

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Phil and All,

I seen some other post where it was said to drink water before bloodwork. I

always was told nothing to eat or drink on fasting labs.

My last bloodwork showed slightly elevated Hemoglobin and Hematocrit as well as

elevated red blood cells.

Red Blood Cells 7.32 (4.7-6.00 K.CUMM)

Hemoglobin 19.7 (13.5-18.0 G/DL)

Hematocrit 65.0 (42.0-52.0%)

I hadnt had anything to drink for about 12 hours before the blood was drawn.

I usually drink a lot of water and tea throuhout the day, so I know normally I

am very well hydrated. I also do my T shots every 3 days.

So is it okay to drink water only before blood work? And I know I can give some

blood to help this, but I wasnt sure to do that before having it tested again to

be sure.

Thanks

>

> > From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@...>

> > Subject: Latest Test Results (Comments ?)

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30 AM

> > Just got back from the doctor for my

> > 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood work and recommended

> > going to checks every 5 mths since my blood work is fairly

> > stable. I have some areas of concern:hematocrit,red blood

> > cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and cholesterol.The doc wants to

> > try 3000ml of fish oil/day before statin drugs.My stats: 56

> > yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than fat,bp 134/84 w/meds.

> > I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp 200mg/ml inject 2x

> > weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel daily,zinc/copper 50mg 2x

> > daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x daily,L-Arginine 1000mg 2x

> > daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and Indoplex/DIM 300mg 2x daily

> >

> > Blood Work:

> >

> > RBC          6.91  ref.

> > 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> > Hemoglobin  19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8 g/dl

> > Hematocrit  59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> > thous/mcl

> > Globulin     1.9   ref.

> > 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

> >

> > Estradiol   43     ref.

> > 20-75 gm/dl

> >

> > Cholesterol 234    ref  130-200 pg/ml

> > HDL     

> >    27.5   ref  29.0-75.0

> > mg/dl

> > LDL         179.5 

> > ref  0.0-130   mg/dl

> > Triglyceride 155   ref. 30-190   

> > mg/dl

> > Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

> >

> > Albumin     4.5    ref.

> > 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> > SHBG        40 

> >    ref. 13-71     nmol/L

> > Testosterone 641   ref.

> > 280-712   ng/dL

> > Free

> > Testosterone 10.49 ref  3.68-19.13ng/d L

> > %Free

> > Testosterone 1.6%  ref. 1.6-2.9

> > Bioavailable

> > Testosterone 316.8 ref  101-534  ng/dL

> >

> > Comments please

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Butch   

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Tell the women you want your labs sent to Quest here are the ones I get down for

TRT and Thyroid.

Estradiol sensitive Code #4021. The women taking your blood works for the Hosp.

at his office.

If you don't have a Thyroid Problem skip the Thyroid labs.

Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X.

Homocysteine (Caridioviasular) Code #31789X.

Vit.D, 25-Hydroxy LC/MS/MS Code #17306X.

TSH

Free T4

Free T3

Total T3

Total T4

RT3

Total Iron

Iron Binding Capacity

Iron % Saturation

Ferritin

B-12

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> > > From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@...>

> > > Subject: Re: Latest Test Results

> (Comments ?)

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 3:08 PM

> > > Phil, I live right here in Michigan.

> > > The blood test results were given by a local

> hospital

> > > in  Rochester,Mi Although some tests were

> refered out.

> > > To where I don't know. I asked the doctor if the

> ranges had

> > > changed or if they were different and he said

> yes.Can you

> > > tell anything from the results given? I like my

> doc but you

> > > guys seem to able to evaluate blood work alittle

> better.Can

> > > I get my estradiol levels down by taking

> indolplex/dim or

> > > should I consider something else?

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > From: Gasper Patrico

> <gasperpatrico@>

> > > > > Subject: Latest Test

> Results

> > > (Comments ?)

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30

> AM

> > > > > Just got back from the doctor for my

> > > > > 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood

> work and

> > > recommended

> > > > > going to checks every 5 mths since my

> blood work

> > > is fairly

> > > > > stable. I have some areas of

> > > concern:hematocrit,red blood

> > > > > cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and

> cholesterol.The doc

> > > wants to

> > > > > try 3000ml of fish oil/day before

> statin drugs.My

> > > stats: 56

> > > > > yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than

> fat,bp

> > > 134/84 w/meds.

> > > > > I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp

> 200mg/ml

> > > inject 2x

> > > > > weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel

> daily,zinc/copper

> > > 50mg 2x

> > > > > daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x

> daily,L-Arginine

> > > 1000mg 2x

> > > > > daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and

> Indoplex/DIM 300mg

> > > 2x daily

> > > > >

> > > > > Blood Work:

> > > > >

> > > > > RBC     

>     6.91  ref.

> > > > > 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> > > > > Hemoglobin 

> 19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8

> > > g/dl

> > > > > Hematocrit 

> 59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> > > > > thous/mcl

> > > > > Globulin 

>    1.9   ref.

> > > > > 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

> > > > >

> > > > >

> Estradiol   43 

>    ref.

> > > > > 20-75 gm/dl

> > > > >

> > > > > Cholesterol 234   

> ref  130-200 pg/ml

> > > > > HDL     

> > > > >

>    27.5   ref 

> 29.0-75.0

> > > > > mg/dl

> > > > > LDL     

>    179.5 

> > > > > ref 

> 0.0-130   mg/dl

> > > > > Triglyceride

> 155   ref. 30-190 

>  

> > > > > mg/dl

> > > > > Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref

> 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

> > > > >

> > > > > Albumin 

>    4.5    ref.

> > > > > 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> > > > > SHBG     

>   40 

> > > > >    ref.

> 13-71     nmol/L

> > > > > Testosterone

> 641   ref.

> > > > >

> 280-712   ng/dL

> > > > > Free

> > > > > Testosterone 10.49 ref 

> 3.68-19.13ng/d L

> > > > > %Free

> > > > > Testosterone 1.6%  ref.

> 1.6-2.9

> > > > > Bioavailable

> > > > > Testosterone 316.8 ref 

> 101-534  ng/dL

> > > > >

> > > > > Comments please

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Butch   

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

,

All ways try to drink at least 3 8oz. glass's of water the morning of your labs

before them. I think giving blood it a band-aid for this problem.

I am all ways dehydrated I have low Aldosterone and need to take Florinef and I

add a tsp full of good Sea Salt to my SS canteen of water all day long. My body

dumps my sodium. So even drinking a lot of water before my labs I am high.

Here are what my labs looked like 9 weeks ago.

Hemoglobin 18.4 high range 13.2 – 17.1 g/dL. Note: high due to Dehydration

from low Aldosterone. Now new labs last Tue 17.8 down.

Hematocrit 54.3 high range 38.5 – 50.0 %. Note: high due to Dehydration from

low Aldosterone. Now new labs last Tue 52.4.

It came down because 9 weeks ago I was doing 100 mgs of Test C evey 3 days. Now

on my last set of labs we lowered my Test C shot back to 70 mgs ever 3 days.

My Testostreone levels were.

Testosterone, Total 917 range 250 – 1100 ng/dL. Now new labs last Tue 667.

Testosterone, Free 201.0 range 46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL. Now new labs last Tue

111.9.

Testosterone, Bioavailable 395.9 range 110.0 to 575.0 ng/dL. Now new labs last

Tue 215.5.

SHBG 20 range 17 - 54 nmol/L. Now on new labs last Tue 28.

Estradiol 8 range 13 to 54 pg/ml. Now on new labs last Tue 21.

Last Sep. when I hit bottom and could not stand up or walk my Testosterone labs

fell very bad and we had to up my dose because of all the pain I was on was

eating up my T meds.

I feel much better on Test C 70 mgs every 3 days but labs look much lower but

it's not about labs it's about how you feel.

Some things you can take to keep your blood thinner.

• Aspirin 81 mg 2x’s/day.

• Solary Super Bio C 2 x’s/day 1000 mgs. Total.

• Biotics Bio-D-Mulsion Forte Vit. D 2000 IU's per drop try 4 drops / day then

go by labs.

• Krill Oil capliques 1,000 mgs. 2 with food morning mercola.com

• NAC N-Acetyl Cysteine, Selenium, Molybdenum - 600 mg.

• B-12 (Brain) Methylcobalamin - 5000 mcg lozenges. 3x’s/week.

• Coenzyme B Complex.

• P-5-P (Coenzyme B6) 50 mg.

• I am taking 800 mcg. Folacal for low Folate RBC.

SHBG 22 range 17 – 54 nmol/L.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: master_trancer <master_trancer@...>

> Subject: Re: Latest Test Results (Comments ?)

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 6:16 PM

> Phil and All,

>

> I seen some other post where it was said to drink water

> before bloodwork. I always was told nothing to eat or drink

> on fasting labs.

> My last bloodwork showed slightly elevated Hemoglobin and

> Hematocrit as well as elevated red blood cells.

>

> Red Blood Cells 7.32 (4.7-6.00 K.CUMM)

> Hemoglobin 19.7 (13.5-18.0 G/DL)

> Hematocrit 65.0 (42.0-52.0%)

>

> I hadnt had anything to drink for about 12 hours before the

> blood was drawn.

>

> I usually drink a lot of water and tea throuhout the day,

> so I know normally I am very well hydrated. I also do my T

> shots every 3 days.

>

> So is it okay to drink water only before blood work? And I

> know I can give some blood to help this, but I wasnt sure to

> do that before having it tested again to be sure.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: Gasper Patrico <gasperpatrico@...>

> > > Subject: Latest Test Results

> (Comments ?)

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30 AM

> > > Just got back from the doctor for my

> > > 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood work and

> recommended

> > > going to checks every 5 mths since my blood work

> is fairly

> > > stable. I have some areas of

> concern:hematocrit,red blood

> > > cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and cholesterol.The doc

> wants to

> > > try 3000ml of fish oil/day before statin drugs.My

> stats: 56

> > > yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than fat,bp

> 134/84 w/meds.

> > > I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp 200mg/ml

> inject 2x

> > > weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel daily,zinc/copper

> 50mg 2x

> > > daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x daily,L-Arginine

> 1000mg 2x

> > > daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and Indoplex/DIM 300mg

> 2x daily

> > >

> > > Blood Work:

> > >

> > > RBC          6.91  ref.

> > > 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> > > Hemoglobin  19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8

> g/dl

> > > Hematocrit  59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> > > thous/mcl

> > > Globulin     1.9   ref.

> > > 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

> > >

> > > Estradiol   43     ref.

> > > 20-75 gm/dl

> > >

> > > Cholesterol 234    ref  130-200 pg/ml

> > > HDL     

> > >    27.5   ref  29.0-75.0

> > > mg/dl

> > > LDL         179.5 

> > > ref  0.0-130   mg/dl

> > > Triglyceride 155   ref. 30-190   

> > > mg/dl

> > > Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

> > >

> > > Albumin     4.5    ref.

> > > 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> > > SHBG        40 

> > >    ref. 13-71     nmol/L

> > > Testosterone 641   ref.

> > > 280-712   ng/dL

> > > Free

> > > Testosterone 10.49 ref  3.68-19.13ng/d L

> > > %Free

> > > Testosterone 1.6%  ref. 1.6-2.9

> > > Bioavailable

> > > Testosterone 316.8 ref  101-534  ng/dL

> > >

> > > Comments please

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Butch   

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Since he has high cholesterol and is thinking of taking statins, he should

DEFINITELY test his thyroid, since low thyroid often causes high cholesterol!

Barb

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: Gasper Patrico

> > <gasperpatrico@>

> > > > > > Subject: Latest Test

> > Results

> > > > (Comments ?)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30

> > AM

> > > > > > Just got back from the doctor for my

> > > > > > 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood

> > work and

> > > > recommended

> > > > > > going to checks every 5 mths since my

> > blood work

> > > > is fairly

> > > > > > stable. I have some areas of

> > > > concern:hematocrit,red blood

> > > > > > cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and

> > cholesterol.The doc

> > > > wants to

> > > > > > try 3000ml of fish oil/day before

> > statin drugs.My

> > > > stats: 56

> > > > > > yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than

> > fat,bp

> > > > 134/84 w/meds.

> > > > > > I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp

> > 200mg/ml

> > > > inject 2x

> > > > > > weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel

> > daily,zinc/copper

> > > > 50mg 2x

> > > > > > daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x

> > daily,L-Arginine

> > > > 1000mg 2x

> > > > > > daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and

> > Indoplex/DIM 300mg

> > > > 2x daily

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blood Work:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RBC     

> >     6.91  ref.

> > > > > > 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> > > > > > Hemoglobin 

> > 19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8

> > > > g/dl

> > > > > > Hematocrit 

> > 59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> > > > > > thous/mcl

> > > > > > Globulin 

> >    1.9   ref.

> > > > > > 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > Estradiol   43 

> >    ref.

> > > > > > 20-75 gm/dl

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cholesterol 234   

> > ref  130-200 pg/ml

> > > > > > HDL     

> > > > > >

> >    27.5   ref 

> > 29.0-75.0

> > > > > > mg/dl

> > > > > > LDL     

> >    179.5 

> > > > > > ref 

> > 0.0-130   mg/dl

> > > > > > Triglyceride

> > 155   ref. 30-190 

> >  

> > > > > > mg/dl

> > > > > > Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref

> > 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Albumin 

> >    4.5    ref.

> > > > > > 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> > > > > > SHBG     

> >   40 

> > > > > >    ref.

> > 13-71     nmol/L

> > > > > > Testosterone

> > 641   ref.

> > > > > >

> > 280-712   ng/dL

> > > > > > Free

> > > > > > Testosterone 10.49 ref 

> > 3.68-19.13ng/d L

> > > > > > %Free

> > > > > > Testosterone 1.6%  ref.

> > 1.6-2.9

> > > > > > Bioavailable

> > > > > > Testosterone 316.8 ref 

> > 101-534  ng/dL

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Comments please

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Butch   

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

nutritoinal imbalances and other metabolic issues can also. The thing is to find

what is causing it. only 5% is actually genetic needing medication

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Gasper Patrico

> > > <gasperpatrico@>

> > > > > > > Subject: Latest Test

> > > Results

> > > > > (Comments ?)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 10:30

> > > AM

> > > > > > > Just got back from the doctor for my

> > > > > > > 3 mth check.He is happy with the blood

> > > work and

> > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > going to checks every 5 mths since my

> > > blood work

> > > > > is fairly

> > > > > > > stable. I have some areas of

> > > > > concern:hematocrit,red blood

> > > > > > > cell,hemoglobin,estradiol and

> > > cholesterol.The doc

> > > > > wants to

> > > > > > > try 3000ml of fish oil/day before

> > > statin drugs.My

> > > > > stats: 56

> > > > > > > yrs old,6'-3 " 285lbs more muscle than

> > > fat,bp

> > > > > 134/84 w/meds.

> > > > > > > I currently take:.5cc testosterone cyp

> > > 200mg/ml

> > > > > inject 2x

> > > > > > > weekly,1ml testosterone 2% gel

> > > daily,zinc/copper

> > > > > 50mg 2x

> > > > > > > daily,L-Carnitine 250mg 2x

> > > daily,L-Arginine

> > > > > 1000mg 2x

> > > > > > > daily,Maca 750mg 3x daily and

> > > Indoplex/DIM 300mg

> > > > > 2x daily

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blood Work:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RBC     

> > >     6.91  ref.

> > > > > > > 4.0-5.6 million/mcl

> > > > > > > Hemoglobin 

> > > 19.8   ref. 12.8-16.8

> > > > > g/dl

> > > > > > > Hematocrit 

> > > 59.6   ref. 38.0-48.0

> > > > > > > thous/mcl

> > > > > > > Globulin 

> > >    1.9   ref.

> > > > > > > 2.3-3.5  gm/dl

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > Estradiol   43 

> > >    ref.

> > > > > > > 20-75 gm/dl

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cholesterol 234   

> > > ref  130-200 pg/ml

> > > > > > > HDL     

> > > > > > >

> > >    27.5   ref 

> > > 29.0-75.0

> > > > > > > mg/dl

> > > > > > > LDL     

> > >    179.5 

> > > > > > > ref 

> > > 0.0-130   mg/dl

> > > > > > > Triglyceride

> > > 155   ref. 30-190 

> > >  

> > > > > > > mg/dl

> > > > > > > Cholesterol/HDL 8.7 ref

> > > 0.0-4.5   ng/ml

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Albumin 

> > >    4.5    ref.

> > > > > > > 3.5-5.2   g/dL

> > > > > > > SHBG     

> > >   40 

> > > > > > >    ref.

> > > 13-71     nmol/L

> > > > > > > Testosterone

> > > 641   ref.

> > > > > > >

> > > 280-712   ng/dL

> > > > > > > Free

> > > > > > > Testosterone 10.49 ref 

> > > 3.68-19.13ng/d L

> > > > > > > %Free

> > > > > > > Testosterone 1.6%  ref.

> > > 1.6-2.9

> > > > > > > Bioavailable

> > > > > > > Testosterone 316.8 ref 

> > > 101-534  ng/dL

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Comments please

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > Butch   

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >