Re: Low T questions?

June 14, 2010

Low T impacts your QOL and longevity. Sexual problems are often what gets a guy

to investigate but don't conlude that no E.D. means no harm. Do some reading;

then you will be eager to fix the low T! T means everything to a guy's health

IMHO.

>

> Hi all,

> I've posted on here before and am still unsure whether or not to start TRT. At

36 yrs old my sex drive is still pretty good and my equipment still works okay.

I do feel overly tired from time to time and I do have some belly fat that is

hard to get rid of. What are the pros and cons of going on TRT and is it really

necessary if the sexual stuff is okay and still works for me. Also, how do I

find out why I have low T. I've had Brain MRI, Thyroid, blood tests, etc, which

all have come back normal except for the low T, around 217.

>

> Thanks.

>

June 14, 2010

After you ran them labs and all looks good you just stopped making T and need to

be on TRT. If you go on with them low levels later on your going to have all

kinds of problmes low T will stress your body you need T to keep your bones

strong and to help keep your joints and muscles healthy. Men with low T feel

Depressed it's not Depression but the low T. I can go on for hours about how

this will mess up your life not on TRT with levels this low.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/Low_Testosterone_equals_low_quality_life.htm

http://men.webmd.com/news/20070605/low-testosterone-may-up-male-mortality?ecd=wn\

l_men_072407

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: surfingmedicman22 <no_reply >

> Subject: Low T questions?

>

> Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 12:05 PM

>

> Hi all,

> I've posted on here before and am still unsure whether or

> not to start TRT. At 36 yrs old my sex drive is still pretty

> good and my equipment still works okay. I do feel overly

> tired from time to time and I do have some belly fat that is

> hard to get rid of. What are the pros and cons of going on

> TRT and is it really necessary if the sexual stuff is okay

> and still works for me. Also, how do I find out why I have

> low T. I've had Brain MRI, Thyroid, blood tests, etc, which

> all have come back normal except for the low T, around 217.

>

> Thanks.

>

> ------------------------------------

>

June 14, 2010

IÂ got this book and it really opened my eyes:

http://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Life-Recharge-Vitality-Overall/dp/0071494804/\

ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1276534016 & sr=8-1

The author is Morgentaler (in case the link doesn't work).Â The title is

" Testoerone for Life "

Bill

________________________________

From: surfingmedicman22 <no_reply >

Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 12:05:25 PM

Subject: Low T questions?

Â

Hi all,

I've posted on here before and am still unsure whether or not to start TRT. At

36 yrs old my sex drive is still pretty good and my equipment still works okay.

I do feel overly tired from time to time and I do have some belly fat that is

hard to get rid of. What are the pros and cons of going on TRT and is it really

necessary if the sexual stuff is okay and still works for me. Also, how do I

find out why I have low T. I've had Brain MRI, Thyroid, blood tests, etc, which

all have come back normal except for the low T, around 217.

Thanks.

June 14, 2010

In this book, does it go into depth about the thyroid, adrenals and the million

other things that commonly go hand in hand with low T? This book looks a little

too good to be true, just like those low T commercials.

>

> IÂ got this book and it really opened my eyes:

>

http://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Life-Recharge-Vitality-Overall/dp/0071494804/\

ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1276534016 & sr=8-1

>

> The author is Morgentaler (in case the link doesn't work).Â The title is

" Testoerone for Life "

> Bill

>

> ________________________________

> From: surfingmedicman22 <no_reply >

>

> Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 12:05:25 PM

> Subject: Low T questions?

>

> Â

>

> Hi all,

> I've posted on here before and am still unsure whether or not to start TRT. At

36 yrs old my sex drive is still pretty good and my equipment still works okay.

I do feel overly tired from time to time and I do have some belly fat that is

hard to get rid of. What are the pros and cons of going on TRT and is it really

necessary if the sexual stuff is okay and still works for me. Also, how do I

find out why I have low T. I've had Brain MRI, Thyroid, blood tests, etc, which

all have come back normal except for the low T, around 217.

>

> Thanks.

>

June 14, 2010

Thanks for the link. I've actually stopped taking statins which I've been on for

a few years to see if they were causing my T levels to go down. I'm going to

retest my T levels in about two weeks and if there still low I'll probably start

on TRT. So if all my labs and tests came back clean then is there anyway to find

out why my body isn't producing enough T.

> >

> > IÂ got this book and it really opened my eyes:

> >

http://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Life-Recharge-Vitality-Overall/dp/0071494804/\

ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1276534016 & sr=8-1

> >

> > The author is Morgentaler (in case the link doesn't work).Â The title is

" Testoerone for Life "

> > Bill

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: surfingmedicman22 <no_reply >

> >

> > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 12:05:25 PM

> > Subject: Low T questions?

> >

> > Â

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I've posted on here before and am still unsure whether or not to start TRT.

At 36 yrs old my sex drive is still pretty good and my equipment still works

okay. I do feel overly tired from time to time and I do have some belly fat that

is hard to get rid of. What are the pros and cons of going on TRT and is it

really necessary if the sexual stuff is okay and still works for me. Also, how

do I find out why I have low T. I've had Brain MRI, Thyroid, blood tests, etc,

which all have come back normal except for the low T, around 217.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

June 14, 2010

I don't read them books anymore better off finding studys it's like the book The

Adrenal Fatigue the 21st Century. When I got this it was just out in hard back

what a waste of my money. I did not know what I know about this problem now and

I wasted a lot of money doing the crap he talked about doing and taking the

supplements to only end up on what he said people should avoid HC or cortef.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: Re: Low T questions?

>

> Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 3:58 PM

> In this book, does it go into depth

> about the thyroid, adrenals and the million other things

> that commonly go hand in hand with low T? This book looks a

> little too good to be true, just like those low T

> commercials.

>

> >

> > IÂ got this book and it really opened my eyes:

> >

http://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Life-Recharge-Vitality-Overall/dp/0071494804/\

ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1276534016 & sr=8-1

> >

> > The author is Morgentaler (in case the link doesn't

> work).Â The title is " Testoerone for Life "

> > Bill

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: surfingmedicman22 <no_reply >

> >

> > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 12:05:25 PM

> > Subject: Low T questions?

> >

> > Â

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I've posted on here before and am still unsure whether

> or not to start TRT. At 36 yrs old my sex drive is still

> pretty good and my equipment still works okay. I do feel

> overly tired from time to time and I do have some belly fat

> that is hard to get rid of. What are the pros and cons of

> going on TRT and is it really necessary if the sexual stuff

> is okay and still works for me. Also, how do I find out why

> I have low T. I've had Brain MRI, Thyroid, blood tests, etc,

> which all have come back normal except for the low T, around

> 217.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

June 14, 2010

I stopped statins last night been on them 19 months and the more I read about

them the more I don't want to be on them. I feel they are giving me pain in my

joints and muscles. When I do a search about statins all I read is how they

have all them sides and there is no proof they work to keep your heart healthy.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: surfingmedicman22 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Low T questions?

>

> Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 4:56 PM

> Thanks for the link. I've actually

> stopped taking statins which I've been on for a few years to

> see if they were causing my T levels to go down. I'm going

> to retest my T levels in about two weeks and if there still

> low I'll probably start on TRT. So if all my labs and tests

> came back clean then is there anyway to find out why my body

> isn't producing enough T.

>

> > >

> > > IÂ got this book and it really opened my eyes:

> > >

http://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Life-Recharge-Vitality-Overall/dp/0071494804/\

ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1276534016 & sr=8-1

> > >

> > > The author is Morgentaler (in case the link

> doesn't work).Â The title is " Testoerone for Life "

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: surfingmedicman22 <no_reply >

> > >

> > > Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 12:05:25 PM

> > > Subject: Low T questions?

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I've posted on here before and am still unsure

> whether or not to start TRT. At 36 yrs old my sex drive is

> still pretty good and my equipment still works okay. I do

> feel overly tired from time to time and I do have some belly

> fat that is hard to get rid of. What are the pros and cons

> of going on TRT and is it really necessary if the sexual

> stuff is okay and still works for me. Also, how do I find

> out why I have low T. I've had Brain MRI, Thyroid, blood

> tests, etc, which all have come back normal except for the

> low T, around 217.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

June 14, 2010

Hi Bill,

Does it make the case for using HCG? Brett

Low T questions?

Hi all,

I've posted on here before and am still unsure whether or not to start TRT.

At 36 yrs old my sex drive is still pretty good and my equipment still works

okay. I do feel overly tired from time to time and I do have some belly fat

that is hard to get rid of. What are the pros and cons of going on TRT and

is it really necessary if the sexual stuff is okay and still works for me.

Also, how do I find out why I have low T. I've had Brain MRI, Thyroid, blood

tests, etc, which all have come back normal except for the low T, around

217.

Thanks.

June 15, 2010

I don'tÂ have the book in front of me, so I can't answer that question

unequivocally.Â I don't remember how much of the bookÂ was devoted to adrenals

and thyroid.Â He does however, list all the tests that check these thyropid and

adrenals issues in his list of required blood tests.

The book is informative as to what can cause low T, but what I really got out of

was this;Â even if you labs look " okay " (say 300-400), if you have low-T

symptoms, then the doctor needs to get past just the " numbers " and treat the

symptoms.

Another " biggie " wasÂ that he recites the stories of some of his patients and

in some of those (actually most of them) guys I said " that's me! " .Â To me this

substantiated what I suspected; that in fact I suffer from low-T.Â

My labs were right at the bottom end of the scale, but had nearly every low-T

symptom (except ED).Â Seeing how his patients responded to the therapy (he

tells how effective the treatments were) AND knowing there are doctors who will

actually get past the lab numbers, was very encouraging to me.Â It gave me:

A) hope that it wasn't just me " getting old " (I'm 53),

that it isn't just in my head,

C) that it's not something more serious like cardiovascular disease (the

fatigue), and

D) I felt like I was getting somewhere (finally).

HeÂ lists all theÂ TRT treatments and the pros and cons of each.Â

In some of his case studies you'll see that TRT doesn't solve every problem,

you'll see that in some cases using gel worked or didn't, that sometimes he

increased gel doses and " boom " the guy got better.Â Sometimes he went from gel

to shots because he wasn't seeing the improvementÂ he wanted, and that did the

trick.Â So, again, good information from a variety of situations - all

real-world stuff.

It's a good education on this issue and the book is easy to read and not very

long.Â I used what I learned in this book to push for TRT with my doc and the

ammunition I got from the book was what I used to convince him to treat me.