Re: Stopping 200 mg testo cold turkey

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Why are you stopping??

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I never ended up in the hosp. going off TRT I just felt bad again. Fatigue,

brain fog all the crap you feel with low T.

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Phil

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> Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 9:46 AM

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I didn't understand why anyone would want to feel like an 70 year old when

you can keep your quality of life and feel alive. TRT has given me back that

part of life low T had taken away. If your set on this, I would seek a Doc's

help. I have a friend that tried to come off TRT and he suffered deep

depression and a host of other issues. Please seek a doctor help...

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:58 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

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> I never ended up in the hosp. going off TRT I just felt bad again. Fatigue,

> brain fog all the crap you feel with low T.

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Why not just reduce the dosage?

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[Guest guest]

Hello All,

What are the symptoms of High Hematocrit and Hemoglobin Levels ? I too am on

Testo Cypionate and I was doing 160 mg every 10days and I started having pain in

the chest, left arm and also in the back left side (around left shoulder blade).

I went to a cardiologist and threadmill stress test and also echo cardiogram

looked good. My bloodtests revealed that my vit D is low and also my Homocystine

levels are borderline high so my doc put me on vit d and also B6,B12,Folic acid

supplementation.

I am also Hypothyroid and am on Synthroid 88mcg.

He did not check for Hemoglobin etc

What do you think about my condition ? I lowered my Test Cyp to 60mg every week.

After reading this thread ........I am also concerned. My doc will be back only

on Monday.

Please advise.

Thank you

Joe

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Also ......what doctor ? endo or Cardiologist ?

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[Guest guest]

Hello Phil, Barb and all others,

I need your suggestion please. I called Red Cross and wanted to schedule an

appointment to donate blood and they asked me if I am taking any blood thinners

and I told I am taking " NattoKainese " (blood thinner) and they said I cant

donate blood.

I stopped my regular dose of 160mg evey ten days of Test Cyp about a month ago

and started on 60mg of Test Cyp every week. (kind of lowered my dose). I also

scheduled an appointment with my doctor again this week.

Can I stop taking Testo Cyp for a while and see if my blood thickness will

eventually go down to normal ?

But I feel kind of dizzy and wondering if I have any issues with any thick

blood.

What do you think are my options.

Thanks

JOe

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[Guest guest]

Wait, what? Do you even know if you have thick blood? I know you were dealing

with high estradiol and the shoulder pain, but you never mentioned the thick

blood. Do you have a recent CBC that shows elevated red blood cells, hemoglobin,

or hematocrit? That is the definition of thick blood.

Dizziness can be a hypo sign, or low BP. If you stop your TC and you need it,

you will crash with major fatigue. You've already lowered your dose as it is; I

would want more labs before deciding to change anything.

Since you're already got a doc apt scheduled, run a CBC, check your testosterone

levels 3 days after your shot, get thyroid levels checked (free T3, free T4,

reverse T3, TSH), full iron panel with ferritin, and run a morning cortisol. If

I remember correctly, you've already done some of these, so no need to repeat

unless you've changed something. You HAVE changed your testosterone dose, so do

need to check that and the CBC.

I'm going to start another post about thick blood because I think and his

docs have everyone totally confused now.

Barb

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[Guest guest]

Phil, Barb, BV and all of you,

Thank you for all your responses. I really appreciate them.

I went to my GP this evening and he said, first and foremost ...we'll do a CBC,

Iron panel with Ferritin etc. So I left a bloodsample and will wait till

tomorrow or day after for the results. After that, he said he will give his

opinion and from there we can proceed.

So, for now .........I am just hanging in here. Will continue my Thyroid and Vit

D, B Complex and other meds and vitamins. Will keep you posted with all updates.

Thank you all once again.

Joe

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I have an appointment with my Harmore Specialist on Thursday. I am going to ask

him to order me a weekly bloodtests for Test, E2 for about 4 weeks or 5 to see

how I am responding to the Test Dose and also DIM or Arimidex etc.

I dont have fluid retention or ear fluid etc but ........some dizzyness.

Will post the results and what the doc says.

Thank you very much,

Joe

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Thank you for the info .

Joe

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Hello Phil, Barb and all others,

I called my doctor's office and they told my Hemoglobin is 0.2% above the normal

range and for this negligible elevation they said they dont recommand blood

drawing. Rest all others are in range. I will get a copy of the report soon and

will post the results.

But my left arm is still painful, kind of pulling on the shoulder .... feeling

and what else do you think it might be ? I will be seeing my Thyroid doc on

Thursday and so hopefully he will go deep into what else it might be.

My GP expressed that it may be Costochondritis but wanted to wait on the labs.

I have been taking Nattokianese two times a day and I am wondering if I can stop

them now and wait a while and donate blood once in a while to make sure.

Thank You All and I will keep you posted.

Joe

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[Guest guest]

Do you happen to spoon with your wife, with her resting on your left arm? We

thought that might be a factor in DH's case, and the pain did clear up more when

he started facing the other way. Any chance you could've hurt it throwing a

ball, working, or something?

I have heard other hypothyroids report costochondritis on other forums.

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