Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 It's on it's way my PC crashed. Co-Moderator Phil > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > Subject: about thyroid. link > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Got it, I gave Dr overbeck a heads up so if we get calls people crashing we know what it is. I am geting full panel done tomorrow for thyroid, hormones, adrenal, rt3, e2, dhea-s, total dhea 24 hour, igf-1, ect. I need to verify what is going on.. , > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 DH and I both take Erfa. Is there something we need to know? > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@> > > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 OK I am glad I could help. Co-Moderator Phil > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > Subject: Re: about thyroid. link > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 3:15 PM > Got it, > I gave Dr overbeck a heads up so if we get calls people > crashing we know what it is. I am geting full panel done > tomorrow for thyroid, hormones, adrenal, rt3, e2, dhea-s, > total dhea 24 hour, igf-1, ect. I need to verify what is > going on.. > > , > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 > <hardasnails1973@...> > > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 With pretty much all variables the same, I keep a journal of what I change. I have been noticing increased bloating, sore joints, muscle flatness, horrible brain fog extreme fatigues decreased strength, severe constipation, appetite, shortness of breath, bad muscle twtiching since taking this last batch from new zealand. My mom also noticed a very bitter taste as well. I am getting full blood test to verify. I been noticed more abdominal distention since taking erfa from new zealand. My libido is fine, everything in that department is good better then ever. So I was wondering if any one else has been reporting same thing. Adrenals are good because I get up in the mornign and spring out of bed and do not need nap in afternoon, but I do get more tired at night time more then usual.. Love to hear people having same issue. > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@> > > > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 The could not keep up with the damand so they farmed it out to a diff. lab to keep up and the diff. lab is not makeing it the same for some reasion and people are going hypo even saying the tast is not the same. Hard called me asking if I knew anything I have have heard that people could only get a 30 days suppley becuase they are so flooded with orders they can't keep up. And the new orders are taking forever to come in and people are saying it's not the same. So I told Hard about a new thyrod med out called NP Thyroid sold at Medco and Walgreens. People are saying it's as good as the old Armour if not better but some people are mad when they go to walgreens they can't get Armour anymore WalGreens if telling them all they can give them is NP Thyroid so some feel it's not the same as the new Armour. Others on this say it's great and cost is a lot less. Doing a search this is all I could find because people are calling it Acella but it's NP Thyroid. http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/12/13/acella-natural-desiccated-thyroid-armour.h\ tm Co-Moderator Phil > From: Barb <baba@...> > Subject: Re: about thyroid. link > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 3:25 PM > DH and I both take Erfa. Is > there something we need to know? > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 > <hardasnails1973@> > > > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yours is from NZ? I have bottles of 500 with a manufacturer's label, they just say Erfa Canada. How do you know where it's made? What pharmacy did you get it from? Mine still taste sweet. Barb > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > > > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 because when we called last time they said that shippen may be later due to coming from over seas and holiday season..I know my body and when my body twitches its thyroid from low magnesium due to dumping, as well as bloating and severe joint pains..If it was e2 I would know it but like i said I am good in that area > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > > > > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I think Barb still have the Canada Erfa the stuff from NZ you can't stand the taste of it. Co-Moderator Phil > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > Subject: Re: about thyroid. link > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 3:54 PM > because when we called last time they > said that shippen may be later due to coming from over seas > and holiday season..I know my body and when my body twitches > its thyroid from low magnesium due to dumping, as well as > bloating and severe joint pains..If it was e2 I would know > it but like i said I am good in that area > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 > <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > > > Subject: about > thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, > 2:45 PM > > > > > > > Phil send me that link about > erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Funny, taste is the first thing people noticed when Armour reformulated. So if the taste of my Erfa ever changes, then I'll know to watch out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 > > <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > > > > Subject: about > > thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, > > 2:45 PM > > > > > > > > Phil send me that link about > > erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yes when the taste changes I would worry. When I see my Dr. and go over my labs I am thinking about going back on the new NTH med NP Thyroid by Acella. I am hearing dam good things about this that it is as good as the old Armour if not better. But this link is all I could find out about it. Medco carries it and WalGreens is only selling it you can't get the new Armour at Walgreens from what I here. http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/12/13/acella-natural-desiccated-thyroid-armour.h\ tm Co-Moderator Phil > From: Barb <baba@...> > Subject: Re: about thyroid. link > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 4:26 PM > Funny, taste is the first thing > people noticed when Armour reformulated. So if the > taste of my Erfa ever changes, then I'll know to watch out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > hardasnails1973 > > > <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > > > > > Subject: > about > > > thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, > March 8, 2011, > > > 2:45 PM > > > > > > > > > Phil send me that > link about > > > erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'm paying the price for this Crap. I hope I can see patients this week to beable to function..I am just getting my blood work done to veify, but my hair is coming out worse then ever first thing I noticed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 > > > <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > > > > > Subject: about > > > thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, > > > 2:45 PM > > > > > > > > > Phil send me that link about > > > erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Are these unsweet Erfa tablets whiter? Do they have a different texture when dissolving? Does anyone know if Erfa is made in any other countries besides Belgium? Regarding a bad experience with Erfa, my father went extremely hypo on it about a year ago. He was taking Canada-dispatched Erfa from Universal Drugstore. He moved about 1/3 of his Armour dose over to Erfa and also increased total natural thyroid dose by about half a grain. There wasn't a problem till he did the next move and lowered Armour again for more Erfa, again at a slightly higher dose. He ended up in bed he was so tired. I believe he added another grain or two of Erfa more to see if that would help and it didn't. So he went back to old Armour and no Erfa and bounced back within a couple days! He then went the Nature-Throid route and is still on the old TimeCaps formula. He was doing fair on that, but the cellulose filler was causing issues. He now takes Candex, a cellulase enzyme, with his first two doses and he dropped thyroid dose a bit without any issue and seems to be doing even better. I've been taking one Candex capsule with each of my two daily new formula Nature-Throid doses for some months now and I think this combo is similar to old Armour. Every time I don't take Candex with my thyroid dose it hardly works. I then ask myself " well, what did you think was going to happen without that enzyme? " and therefore I keep taking that Candex. It kills yeast cells too, which is an added bonus. Hope you get to feeling better, . -Nigel On 8 March 2011 21:54, hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> wrote: > > > because when we called last time they said that shippen may be later due to > coming from over seas and holiday season..I know my body and when my body > twitches its thyroid from low magnesium due to dumping, as well as bloating > and severe joint pains..If it was e2 I would know it but like i said I am > good in that area > > > > > > > > With pretty much all variables the same, I keep a journal of what I > change. I have been noticing increased bloating, sore joints, muscle > flatness, horrible brain fog extreme fatigues decreased strength, severe > constipation, appetite, shortness of breath, bad muscle twtiching since > taking this last batch from new zealand. My mom also noticed a very bitter > taste as well. I am getting full blood test to verify. I been noticed more > abdominal distention since taking erfa from new zealand. My libido is fine, > everything in that department is good better then ever. So I was wondering > if any one else has been reporting same thing. Adrenals are good because I > get up in the mornign and spring out of bed and do not need nap in > afternoon, but I do get more tired at night time more then usual.. Love to > hear people having same issue. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Nigel, I am closing the deal with dr in texas today. So i will give you that information when it is finalized. Erfa was from new zealand, which may have been sitting on ships or in warehouses for some time losing its potency. The only thing I changed was adding td DHEA25 mgs a day for 14 days. I do not think it was enough to upset the apples so to speak, but I am having a mess load of blood tests done today to verify what is going on. I also have little candida as well verified on stool sample. I am also having bacteria swab done as well to look more indept. I am convering all basis. Thanks for asking.. > > > > > > > > With pretty much all variables the same, I keep a journal of what I > > change. I have been noticing increased bloating, sore joints, muscle > > flatness, horrible brain fog extreme fatigues decreased strength, severe > > constipation, appetite, shortness of breath, bad muscle twtiching since > > taking this last batch from new zealand. My mom also noticed a very bitter > > taste as well. I am getting full blood test to verify. I been noticed more > > abdominal distention since taking erfa from new zealand. My libido is fine, > > everything in that department is good better then ever. So I was wondering > > if any one else has been reporting same thing. Adrenals are good because I > > get up in the mornign and spring out of bed and do not need nap in > > afternoon, but I do get more tired at night time more then usual.. Love to > > hear people having same issue. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Do these Erfa you speak of have the ECI symbol, plus the number representing mg? IOW, mine are imprinted with an ECI and a 30 below it for 30 mg. And did they come out of an Erfa manufacturer's bottle, or were they in another pill dispenser, like they do in US? It seems I have heard other complaints like this about Universal shipping from who knows where. Barb > > > > > > > > With pretty much all variables the same, I keep a journal of what I > > change. I have been noticing increased bloating, sore joints, muscle > > flatness, horrible brain fog extreme fatigues decreased strength, severe > > constipation, appetite, shortness of breath, bad muscle twtiching since > > taking this last batch from new zealand. My mom also noticed a very bitter > > taste as well. I am getting full blood test to verify. I been noticed more > > abdominal distention since taking erfa from new zealand. My libido is fine, > > everything in that department is good better then ever. So I was wondering > > if any one else has been reporting same thing. Adrenals are good because I > > get up in the mornign and spring out of bed and do not need nap in > > afternoon, but I do get more tired at night time more then usual.. Love to > > hear people having same issue. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I just got home from doing labs I asked my Dr. to switch me from the generic Synthroid and T3 I am on to the new NP Thyroid. He said good Idea he is have good luck using this. Medco has it my cost is $20 for 90 days he is giving my 3 grains per day but told me to start low and work up slow. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > because when we called last time they said that > shippen may be later due to > > coming from over seas and holiday season..I know my > body and when my body > > twitches its thyroid from low magnesium due to > dumping, as well as bloating > > and severe joint pains..If it was e2 I would know it > but like i said I am > > good in that area > > > > > > > > > >Â > > With pretty much all variables the > same, I keep a journal of what I > > change. I have been noticing increased bloating, sore > joints, muscle > > flatness, horrible brain fog extreme fatigues > decreased strength, severe > > constipation, appetite, shortness of breath, bad > muscle twtiching since > > taking this last batch from new zealand. My mom also > noticed a very bitter > > taste as well. I am getting full blood test to verify. > I been noticed more > > abdominal distention since taking erfa from new > zealand. My libido is fine, > > everything in that department is good better then > ever. So I was wondering > > if any one else has been reporting same thing. > Adrenals are good because I > > get up in the mornign and spring out of bed and do not > need nap in > > afternoon, but I do get more tired at night time more > then usual.. Love to > > hear people having same issue. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 , did your blood levels say anything about this new batch of Erfa? What have you done to get unhypo? I asked on the thyroid board and someone said they noticed the texture changing as well. Here: http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=2 & t=20918 -Nigel On 8 March 2011 14:39, hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> wrote: > > > With pretty much all variables the same, I keep a journal of what I change. > I have been noticing increased bloating, sore joints, muscle flatness, > horrible brain fog extreme fatigues decreased strength, severe constipation, > appetite, shortness of breath, bad muscle twtiching since taking this last > batch from new zealand. My mom also noticed a very bitter taste as well. I > am getting full blood test to verify. I been noticed more abdominal > distention since taking erfa from new zealand. My libido is fine, everything > in that department is good better then ever. So I was wondering if any one > else has been reporting same thing. Adrenals are good because I get up in > the mornign and spring out of bed and do not need nap in afternoon, but I do > get more tired at night time more then usual.. Love to hear people having > same issue. > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > > > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Tests where identical from last switching to np thyroid soon Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Nigel <nachonigel@...> wrote: > , did your blood levels say anything about this new batch of > Erfa? What have you done to get unhypo? > > I asked on the thyroid board and someone said they noticed the > texture changing as well. Here: > > http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=2 & t=20918 > > -Nigel > > On 8 March 2011 14:39, hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > wrote: > > With pretty much all variables the same, I keep a journal of what I > change. I have been noticing increased bloating, sore joints, muscle > flatness, horrible brain fog extreme fatigues decreased strength, > severe constipation, appetite, shortness of breath, bad muscle > twtiching since taking this last batch from new zealand. My mom also > noticed a very bitter taste as well. I am getting full blood test to > verify. I been noticed more abdominal distention since taking erfa > from new zealand. My libido is fine, everything in that department > is good better then ever. So I was wondering if any one else has > been reporting same thing. Adrenals are good because I get up in the > mornign and spring out of bed and do not need nap in afternoon, but > I do get more tired at night time more then usual.. Love to hear > people having same issue. > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > Subject: about thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 PM > > > > > Phil send me that link about erfa.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Guys I was going to start on the new NP Thyroid by Acella. Medco has it in there med. list yet they called my Dr. saying they don't have it and want to send the New Armour. So my Dr. said forget about it that crap is not any good. Yet I did not get my Free T3 levels back this makes me so dam mad with the labs you order a test they don't do them. You call them they have all kinds of bull as to why it was not done. My Dr. upped my 5 mcgs. of T3 only to 3x's / day from 2 and we have no idea what this did. Only change from last labs is TSH came down a little still above 2. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > With pretty much all variables the same, I keep a > journal of what I change. > > I have been noticing increased bloating, sore joints, > muscle flatness, > > horrible brain fog extreme fatigues decreased > strength, severe constipation, > > appetite, shortness of breath, bad muscle twtiching > since taking this last > > batch from new zealand. My mom also noticed a very > bitter taste as well. I > > am getting full blood test to verify. I been noticed > more abdominal > > distention since taking erfa from new zealand. My > libido is fine, everything > > in that department is good better then ever. So I was > wondering if any one > > else has been reporting same thing. Adrenals are good > because I get up in > > the mornign and spring out of bed and do not need nap > in afternoon, but I do > > get more tired at night time more then usual.. Love to > hear people having > > same issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 > <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > > Subject: about > thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 > PM > > > > > > Phil send me that link about > erfa.. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Phil do you have to go thru insurance to get the Acella brand Thyroid NP? I pay 15$ per month for bottle of 100 of the 1 grain tabs...cash...no one to say I have to use crappy Armour :: smile :: EL > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 > > <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > > > Subject: about > > thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 2:45 > > PM > > > > > > > Phil send me that link about > > erfa.. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 No I could go to Walgreen's and buy it but when my Dr. seen my labs last Tue he said don't go on it lets wait 8 weeks and see how labs look. He feels things look good it's not broken so why fix it. And I have a lot going on with my Statin Drug damage to my muscles and he made some changes things are getting better so he now wants to wait. Co-Moderator Phil > From: mbmom123 <lathe30248@...> > Subject: Re: about thyroid. link > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 7:56 PM > Phil do you have to go thru insurance > to get the Acella brand Thyroid NP? I pay 15$ per month for > bottle of 100 of the 1 grain tabs...cash...no one to say I > have to use crappy Armour :: smile :: EL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: hardasnails1973 > > > <hardasnails1973@> > > > > > > > > Subject: > about > > > thyroid. link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, > 2011, 2:45 > > > PM > > > > > > > > Phil send me that link > about > > > erfa.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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