Re: My Journey Begins. Here are my first test results. Comments are welcome.

April 1, 2010

Can you put in the ranges for your lab work?

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My Journey Begins. Here are my first test results.

Comments are welcome.

Creatine 88 umol/L

TSH 1.61 mU/L

LH 4.8 U/L

Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

SHBG 42 nmol/L

Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

PSA .51 ug/L

I am 60 yrs old.

My GP referred me to a uro.

The uro said he sees nothing to be treated.

Before he ordered the tests I asked him if he has ever ordered an Estradiol test

for a male and he said to wait and see what these tests were first.

He did say that if the Viagra, levitra etc were not working he would

look further. (They are working, but I need the maximum dose.)

According to what I read in this newsgroup my T is low.

The question is, where do I go from here.

I live in Canada. Has anyone successfully navigated the Canadian socialized

medical system successfully with this problem?

It seems to me that withing the system I might be S.O.L. and if I go outside the

system I would need to pay big bucks to get anywhere.

I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in the cupboard. Should I try that?

April 1, 2010

With Ranges

Creatine 88 umol/L ( 45 - 110 )

TSH 1.61 mU/L ( 0.30 - 5.50 )

LH 4.8 U/L ( 2.0 - 18.0 )

Prolactin 2.3 ug/L ( 2.0 - 15.0 )

Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L ( 8.4 - 28.7 )

SHBG 42 nmol/L ( 13 - 71 )

Free Test 3.8 nmol/L ( 3.0 - 12.0 ) Calc BioA Test

PSA .51 ug/L ( < 4.01 )

>

> Can you put in the ranges for your lab work?

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> My Journey Begins. Here are my first test results.

Comments are welcome.

>

> Creatine 88 umol/L

> TSH 1.61 mU/L

> LH 4.8 U/L

> Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> SHBG 42 nmol/L

> Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

> PSA .51 ug/L

>

> I am 60 yrs old.

>

> My GP referred me to a uro.

>

> The uro said he sees nothing to be treated.

>

> Before he ordered the tests I asked him if he has ever ordered an Estradiol

test for a male and he said to wait and see what these tests were first.

>

> He did say that if the Viagra, levitra etc were not working he would

> look further. (They are working, but I need the maximum dose.)

>

> According to what I read in this newsgroup my T is low.

> The question is, where do I go from here.

>

> I live in Canada. Has anyone successfully navigated the Canadian socialized

medical system successfully with this problem?

> It seems to me that withing the system I might be S.O.L. and if I go outside

the system I would need to pay big bucks to get anywhere.

>

> I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in the cupboard. Should I try that?

>

April 2, 2010

Your Testosterone levels in my units are at 273 this is in the normal range but

at the bottom and only normal for a man age over 100 don't take this crap from

your Dr. ask to see a Endo in Canada they are not so bad.

Your Estradiol was not tested but if it's high and you get it down with the DIM

your Testosterone levels can go up some 200 to 300 points but as low as you are

it's not much help.

A lot of guys drive to Mi. and see Dr. you only need to see him once for

him to treat you by phone check out his web site and forum.

www.allthingsmale.com

At his forum you can post and ask about a Dr. that Dr. knows in Canada that

is great.

It's not good for your health to go through life with low levels like this it

shortens your life and can be bad for your heart.

If you don't have night time and morning wood and try the DIM and get this wood

back it means your at your best levels for Estradiol keep taking the DIM but if

your wood stops your going to low. Stop the DIM until your wood comes back and

then go back on the DIM but cut the tablet in half.

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s= & daysprune= & f=2

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dale <etherial@...>

> Subject: My Journey Begins. Here are my first test results.

Comments are welcome.

>

> Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:47 PM

>

> Creatine 88 umol/L

> TSH 1.61 mU/L

> LH 4.8 U/L

> Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> SHBG 42 nmol/L

> Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

> PSA .51 ug/L

>

> I am 60 yrs old.

>

> My GP referred me to a uro.

>

> The uro said he sees nothing to be treated.

>

> Before he ordered the tests I asked him if he has ever

> ordered an Estradiol test for a male and he said to wait and

> see what these tests were first.

>

> He did say that if the Viagra, levitra etc were not working

> he would

> look further. (They are working, but I need the

> maximum dose.)

>

> According to what I read in this newsgroup my T is low.

> The question is, where do I go from here.

>

> I live in Canada. Has anyone successfully navigated

> the Canadian socialized medical system successfully with

> this problem?

> It seems to me that withing the system I might be S.O.L.

> and if I go outside the system I would need to pay big bucks

> to get anywhere.

>

> I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in the cupboard.

> Should I try that?

>

> ------------------------------------

>

April 2, 2010

Thank you Phil.

I can see that, just like everyone else here, finding the right doctor is

going to be a challenge. Unfortunately visiting DR is not very practical

because I am on the west coast.

I could not convince the Uro to test for E2. Too bad. That is the one test I

wanted to see.

While I look for a competent endo I will try taking DIM.

>

> > From: Dale <etherial@...>

> > Subject: My Journey Begins. Here are my first test results.

Comments are welcome.

> >

> > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:47 PM

> >

> > Creatine 88 umol/L

> > TSH 1.61 mU/L

> > LH 4.8 U/L

> > Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> > Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> > SHBG 42 nmol/L

> > Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

> > PSA .51 ug/L

> >

> > I am 60 yrs old.

> >

> > My GP referred me to a uro.

> >

> > The uro said he sees nothing to be treated.

> >

> > Before he ordered the tests I asked him if he has ever

> > ordered an Estradiol test for a male and he said to wait and

> > see what these tests were first.

> >

> > He did say that if the Viagra, levitra etc were not working

> > he would

> > look further. (They are working, but I need the

> > maximum dose.)

> >

> > According to what I read in this newsgroup my T is low.

> > The question is, where do I go from here.

> >

> > I live in Canada. Has anyone successfully navigated

> > the Canadian socialized medical system successfully with

> > this problem?

> > It seems to me that withing the system I might be S.O.L.

> > and if I go outside the system I would need to pay big bucks

> > to get anywhere.

> >

> > I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in the cupboard.

> > Should I try that?

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

April 2, 2010

On the west coast look up Dr. M here is his info he is as good as Dr. .

.....................................................

Romeo no, M.D. (831) 375-6655 395 Del Monte Ctr #305 Monterey, CA 93940

262 Eldorado Street #100 physician, psychiatrist,Behavioral Neuroendocrinology

and Immunology (831) 626-9094 fax

===================================================

And here is a link to his forum.

http://www.definitivemind.com/forums/index.php

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dale <etherial@...>

> Subject: Re: My Journey Begins. Here are my first test

results. Comments are welcome.

>

> Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 5:11 PM

> Thank you Phil.

>

> I can see that, just like everyone else here,

> finding the right doctor is going to be a challenge.

> Unfortunately visiting DR is not very practical because

> I am on the west coast.

>

> I could not convince the Uro to test for E2. Too

> bad. That is the one test I wanted to see.

>

> While I look for a competent endo I will try taking DIM.

>

> >

> > > From: Dale <etherial@...>

> > > Subject: My Journey Begins.

> Here are my first test results. Comments are welcome.

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:47 PM

> > >

> > > Creatine 88 umol/L

> > > TSH 1.61 mU/L

> > > LH 4.8 U/L

> > > Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> > > Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> > > SHBG 42 nmol/L

> > > Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

> > > PSA .51 ug/L

> > >

> > > I am 60 yrs old.

> > >

> > > My GP referred me to a uro.

> > >

> > > The uro said he sees nothing to be treated.

> > >

> > > Before he ordered the tests I asked him if he has

> ever

> > > ordered an Estradiol test for a male and he said

> to wait and

> > > see what these tests were first.

> > >

> > > He did say that if the Viagra, levitra etc were

> not working

> > > he would

> > > look further. (They are working, but I need

> the

> > > maximum dose.)

> > >

> > > According to what I read in this newsgroup my T

> is low.

> > > The question is, where do I go from here.

> > >

> > > I live in Canada. Has anyone successfully

> navigated

> > > the Canadian socialized medical system

> successfully with

> > > this problem?

> > > It seems to me that withing the system I might be

> S.O.L.

> > > and if I go outside the system I would need to

> pay big bucks

> > > to get anywhere.

> > >

> > > I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in the

> cupboard.

> > > Should I try that?

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

April 28, 2010

On April 1st earlier in this thread I posted my results but the Uro

did not test estradiol. I wanted to know what this number was so I mad the trek

from Canada to Bellingham Washington and had my Estradiol tested by Labcorp.

I got the results today as follows.

Estradiol Sensitive 5 pg/ml range 3 - 70

I had been taking dim for about 10 days but stopped 2 weeks before the test.

If this result can be believed I am already quite low and since my T was low

there does not seem to be much aromatization going on.

I am not sure if I believe this test result.

As soon as the blood was take I started taking dim again and I have not lost my

erections. In fact they seem to have improved by being stronger with less

levitra required. I intend to continue DIM and monitoring erections (phil's

Protocol).

I am getting a referral to a local Dr Kendler who is currently doing phase

III libi-gel trials. I figure this guy should know what is going on with TRT.

>

> > From: Dale <etherial@...>

> > Subject: My Journey Begins. Here are my first test results.

Comments are welcome.

> >

> > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:47 PM

> >

> > Creatine 88 umol/L

> > TSH 1.61 mU/L

> > LH 4.8 U/L

> > Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> > Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> > SHBG 42 nmol/L

> > Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

> > PSA .51 ug/L

> >

> > I am 60 yrs old.

> >

> > My GP referred me to a uro.

> >

> > The uro said he sees nothing to be treated.

> >

> > Before he ordered the tests I asked him if he has ever

> > ordered an Estradiol test for a male and he said to wait and

> > see what these tests were first.

> >

> > He did say that if the Viagra, levitra etc were not working

> > he would

> > look further. (They are working, but I need the

> > maximum dose.)

> >

> > According to what I read in this newsgroup my T is low.

> > The question is, where do I go from here.

> >

> > I live in Canada. Has anyone successfully navigated

> > the Canadian socialized medical system successfully with

> > this problem?

> > It seems to me that withing the system I might be S.O.L.

> > and if I go outside the system I would need to pay big bucks

> > to get anywhere.

> >

> > I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in the cupboard.

> > Should I try that?

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

April 29, 2010

IF your not on TRT this is possable I see this low level in men with low T. I

would not take the DIM for a time being low like this is not good you have not

lost wood but this might be you.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dale <etherial@...>

> Subject: Re: My Journey Begins. Here are my first test

results. Comments are welcome.

>

> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 8:04 PM

> On April 1st earlier in this thread I

> posted my results but the Uro

> did not test estradiol. I wanted to know what this

> number was so I mad the trek from Canada to Bellingham

> Washington and had my Estradiol tested by Labcorp.

>

> I got the results today as follows.

>

> Estradiol Sensitive 5

> pg/ml range 3 - 70

>

> I had been taking dim for about 10 days but stopped 2 weeks

> before the test.

>

> If this result can be believed I am already quite low and

> since my T was low there does not seem to be much

> aromatization going on.

>

> I am not sure if I believe this test result.

> As soon as the blood was take I started taking dim again

> and I have not lost my erections. In fact they seem to have

> improved by being stronger with less levitra required.

> I intend to continue DIM and monitoring erections (phil's

> Protocol).

>

> I am getting a referral to a local Dr Kendler who is

> currently doing phase III libi-gel trials. I figure

> this guy should know what is going on with TRT.

>

> >

> > > From: Dale <etherial@...>

> > > Subject: My Journey Begins.

> Here are my first test results. Comments are welcome.

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:47 PM

> > >

> > > Creatine 88 umol/L

> > > TSH 1.61 mU/L

> > > LH 4.8 U/L

> > > Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> > > Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> > > SHBG 42 nmol/L

> > > Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

> > > PSA .51 ug/L

> > >

> > > I am 60 yrs old.

> > >

> > > My GP referred me to a uro.

> > >

> > > The uro said he sees nothing to be treated.

> > >

> > > Before he ordered the tests I asked him if he has

> ever

> > > ordered an Estradiol test for a male and he said

> to wait and

> > > see what these tests were first.

> > >

> > > He did say that if the Viagra, levitra etc were

> not working

> > > he would

> > > look further. (They are working, but I need

> the

> > > maximum dose.)

> > >

> > > According to what I read in this newsgroup my T

> is low.

> > > The question is, where do I go from here.

> > >

> > > I live in Canada. Has anyone successfully

> navigated

> > > the Canadian socialized medical system

> successfully with

> > > this problem?

> > > It seems to me that withing the system I might be

> S.O.L.

> > > and if I go outside the system I would need to

> pay big bucks

> > > to get anywhere.

> > >

> > > I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in the

> cupboard.

> > > Should I try that?

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

April 29, 2010

Thank you Phil.

The picture is becoming very clear to me now. I did not want to go on TRT if I

could avoid it but it looks like I have no other option.

The numbers match how I feel.

The stories here have been a real education for me and I intend to keep this

thread going as my own story unfolds so that others may benefit from my

experience.

> > >

> > > > From: Dale <etherial@>

> > > > Subject: My Journey Begins.

> > Here are my first test results. Comments are welcome.

> > > >

> > > > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:47 PM

> > > >

> > > > Creatine 88 umol/L

> > > > TSH 1.61 mU/L

> > > > LH 4.8 U/L

> > > > Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> > > > Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> > > > SHBG 42 nmol/L

> > > > Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

> > > > PSA .51 ug/L

> > > >

> > > > I am 60 yrs old.

> > > >

> > > > My GP referred me to a uro.

> > > >

> > > > The uro said he sees nothing to be treated.

> > > >

> > > > Before he ordered the tests I asked him if he has

> > ever

> > > > ordered an Estradiol test for a male and he said

> > to wait and

> > > > see what these tests were first.

> > > >

> > > > He did say that if the Viagra, levitra etc were

> > not working

> > > > he would

> > > > look further. (They are working, but I need

> > the

> > > > maximum dose.)

> > > >

> > > > According to what I read in this newsgroup my T

> > is low.

> > > > The question is, where do I go from here.

> > > >

> > > > I live in Canada. Has anyone successfully

> > navigated

> > > > the Canadian socialized medical system

> > successfully with

> > > > this problem?

> > > > It seems to me that withing the system I might be

> > S.O.L.

> > > > and if I go outside the system I would need to

> > pay big bucks

> > > > to get anywhere.

> > > >

> > > > I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in the

> > cupboard.

> > > > Should I try that?

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

April 29, 2010

That will be great your story like others here do help.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dale <etherial@...>

> Subject: Re: My Journey Begins. Here are my first test

results. Comments are welcome.

>

> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 10:35 AM

> Thank you Phil.

> The picture is becoming very clear to me now. I did

> not want to go on TRT if I could avoid it but it looks like

> I have no other option.

> The numbers match how I feel.

>

> The stories here have been a real education for me and I

> intend to keep this thread going as my own story unfolds so

> that others may benefit from my experience.

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: Dale <etherial@>

> > > > > Subject: My Journey

> Begins.

> > > Here are my first test results. Comments are

> welcome.

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:47 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Creatine 88 umol/L

> > > > > TSH 1.61 mU/L

> > > > > LH 4.8 U/L

> > > > > Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> > > > > Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> > > > > SHBG 42 nmol/L

> > > > > Free Test 3.8 nmol/L

> > > > > PSA .51 ug/L

> > > > >

> > > > > I am 60 yrs old.

> > > > >

> > > > > My GP referred me to a uro.

> > > > >

> > > > > The uro said he sees nothing to be

> treated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Before he ordered the tests I asked him

> if he has

> > > ever

> > > > > ordered an Estradiol test for a male

> and he said

> > > to wait and

> > > > > see what these tests were first.

> > > > >

> > > > > He did say that if the Viagra, levitra

> etc were

> > > not working

> > > > > he would

> > > > > look further. (They are working, but

> I need

> > > the

> > > > > maximum dose.)

> > > > >

> > > > > According to what I read in this

> newsgroup my T

> > > is low.

> > > > > The question is, where do I go from

> here.

> > > > >

> > > > > I live in Canada. Has anyone

> successfully

> > > navigated

> > > > > the Canadian socialized medical system

> > > successfully with

> > > > > this problem?

> > > > > It seems to me that withing the system

> I might be

> > > S.O.L.

> > > > > and if I go outside the system I would

> need to

> > > pay big bucks

> > > > > to get anywhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have some Indoplex DIM sitting in

> the

> > > cupboard.

> > > > > Should I try that?

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

June 5, 2010

Well he is a better Endo then we have in the USA. Here is the info about

Androgel.

===================================================

-----------------------DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION-----------------------

â€¢ Recommended starting dose: 5 g for adult males, applied topically once daily

(2.1).

â€¢ Apply to clean, dry, intact skin of shoulders and upper arms and/or abdomen.

Do NOT apply AndroGel to the genitals (2.1).

â€¢ Dose adjustment for adult males: If serum testosterone level is below the

normal range, adjust dose from 5 g to 7.5 g and from 7.5 g to 10 g (2.3).

----------------------DOSAGE FORMS AND STRENGTHS----------------------AndroGel

(testosterone gel) 1% for topical use is available as:

â€¢ 2 x 75 g pumps (each pump dispenses 60 metered 1.25 g doses) (3)

â€¢ 2.5 g packet or 5 g packet (3)

----------------------------------------------------

Start with 4 pumps doing 2 pump on your upper arms and shoulders and down your

back as far as you can reach then do 2 pumps on the other side after a shower I

would shave then do the gel knowing I am dry. Spread it over the area don't rub

it in let it dry from wet. For a total of 5 grams.

Now this is what you need to do in 2 week get some labs your levels if this it

not enough or it's not getting through your skin can fall lower then your

starting levels. If your levels don't get up past 500 to 600 go up on the dose

to 7.5 grams and test again in 4 weeks.

Now for doing labs get up shower good get to old gel off and go do your labs

then put on the gel. If you can't do this put on the gel but don't do labs for

4 to 6 hrs or you will get a high spiked level that is not true. Don't get the

gel on the area they take the blood from.

===================================================

Starting on Androgel or Testim.

Yes this happens a lot you start on a low starting dose 5 grams when your brain

sees the testosterone in your blood even just a little it slows down even stops

sending the LH and FSH message to your testis to make the Testosterone you were

making. So lets say your labs for Total T were 350 you add this dose of gel

your brain sees this and you lose the base level you had before the gel.

Now lets say you need more then 5 grams most do so now all your left with is

what the gel is doing so lets say it's doing 200 so you lost 150.

The reason you feel good is your levels go up that 200 the gel is doing in the

first 2 weeks so your levels go up to 550 in theory. The brain sees this and

you fall back.

Why can this happen it might be how your putting on the gel with Androgel you

need to spread it over your upper arms and shoulders and down your back as far

as you can reach this is half of your dose then do the other side. Just spread

it over the area but don't rub it in.

The other thing is it's not getting through your skin good so you need more. If

you have a thyroid problem your skin will become thicker and gels and creams

don't get through the skin and you need to switch to shots.

I tell men when they go on Gels to retest in 2 weeks because you can end up

feeling worse. Most men just need more gel. Dr.'s that tell men to go on 5

grams of gel and come back in 8 to 12 weeks for labs don't know much about the

use of gels. Dr.'s that treat a lot of men for low T on gels see this happen

and test them again in 2 weeks.

When you go to do labs get up and shower that morning go do your labs and then

put in the gel after your blood test so you donâ€™t spike up your labs. If you

canâ€™t do labs in the morning shower put on the gel but donâ€™t get any gel on

the spot they take the blood from. Do your labs about 6 hrs later.

Call your Dr. and tell him this and that your not feeling good you were but fell

back.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dale <etherial@...>

> Subject: My Journey Begins. Here are my first test results.

Comments are welcome.

>

> Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 8:58 PM

> This is a continuation ofÂ " My

> Journey begins thread "

>

> I live in Canada on the West coast.

>

> It took a month but I finally got to see an Endo today.

>

> He looked at the results below and said that I was in the

> " normal range " for T and Free T but he was willing to give

> me T based on

> my symptoms.

>

> He offered a trial of shots or Gel.

> I asked " How often are the shots " ? His answer 3 weeks.

> I thought to myself " 3 weeks, that seem insane from what I

> have read here " so I opted for Androgel.

>

> I am to try the gel for 3 months and report back but he

> does not plan to do any labs after that.Â Just check

> symptoms.

> Doesn't seem right to me, but at least I have the Gel for

> now.

> I can check labs myself via Labcorp in the US if I need

> to.

> I already did this for my E2.

>

> There was a short conversation about the E2 test I had done

> on my own.

> He seems amused by this and I explained that high E2 causes

> erectile failure and I was curious about the number.

> He did not seem to be aware of the effects of E2 at all and

> went on with the next discussion.

>

> I asked if HCG was an option but got nowhere with that

> one.

>

> In any case, he was willing to treat based on symptoms and

> not labs and I have Androgel in my hot little hands and I

> can start TRT and see what the results are.

>

> Does anyone know how many pumps I should use?

>

> ANy comments about this Endo?

>

> The following test were done April 2010 pre-TRT

>

> CreatinineÂ Â Â Â 88Â Â Â ( 45

> â€“ 110 )Â Â Â umol/L

> Estimated GFRÂ 77Â Â Â ( > 59 )Â

> Â Â Â Â Ml/min/1.73 sq.m

> TSHÂ Â Â Â Â Â 1.61 (

> 0.30Â -Â 5.50 ) mU/L

> LHÂ Â Â Â Â

> Â Â Â 4.8Â ( 2.0Â Â Â â€“Â

> 18.0 ) U/L

> ProlactinÂ Â Â 2.3Â (

> 2.0Â Â Â â€“Â 15.0 ) Ug/L

> TestosteroneÂ Â Â 9.5Â (

> 8.4Â Â Â -Â 28.7 ) nmol/L

> SHBGÂ Â Â Â

> Â Â Â 42Â Â Â ( 13Â Â

> -Â 71Â Â Â ) nmol/L

> Calc BioA Testo3.8Â ( 3.0Â Â Â -Â

> 12.0 ) nmol/L

> PSAÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â .51

> ( < 4.01Â Â Â Â ) ug/LÂ

> Estradiol Senstv 5Â ( 3Â

> Â Â Â -Â 70Â Â Â ) pg/mlÂ

> Â Labcorp

> Â Â Â Â Â Â

>

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: Dale <etherial@>

> > > > > > Subject: My Journey

> Begins.Â

> > > > Here are my first test results. Comments are

> welcome.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010,

> 7:47 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > CreatineÂ Â Â 88 umol/L

> > > > > > TSHÂ Â Â Â Â 1.61 mU/L

> > > > > > LHÂ Â Â Â 4.8Â Â Â U/L

> > > > > > Prolactin 2.3 ug/L

> > > > > > Testosterone 9.5 nmol/L

> > > > > > SHBGÂ Â Â Â Â Â 42 nmol/L

> > > > > > Free TestÂ Â 3.8 nmol/L

> > > > > > PSAÂ Â Â Â Â .51 ug/L

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am 60 yrs old.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My GP referred me to a uro.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The uro said he sees nothing to be

> treated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Before he ordered the tests I

> asked him if he has

> > > > ever

> > > > > > ordered an Estradiol test for a

> male and he said

> > > > to wait and

> > > > > > see what these tests were first.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He did say that if the Viagra,

> levitra etc were

> > > > not working

> > > > > > he would

> > > > > > look further.Â (They are working,

> but I need

> > > > the

> > > > > > maximum dose.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > According to what I read in this

> newsgroup my T

> > > > is low.

> > > > > > The question is, where do I go

> from here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I live in Canada.Â Has anyone

> successfully

> > > > navigated

> > > > > > the Canadian socialized medical

> system

> > > > successfully with

> > > > > > this problem?

> > > > > > It seems to me that withing the

> system I might be

> > > > S.O.L.

> > > > > > and if I go outside the system I

> would need to

> > > > pay big bucks

> > > > > > to get anywhere.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have some Indoplex DIM sitting

> in the

> > > > cupboard.Â

> > > > > > Should I try that?

> > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

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