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Ken & I have T-shirts with the motto: the only reason SOME people are still

alive is because it's against the law to kill them!

Sharon Zeis wrote:

> Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going to get

> worse. The good news is your not alone. My daughter is

> stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain bitch, but

> she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been quite a

> handful all her life,but she's always there for me

> when I need her. She even called me an asshole about a

> year ago. She's still alive because I ran out of the

> house and calmed down before I grounded her. I have

> her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems like there is

> always at least one who is trying to figure out how to

> get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my daughter.

> This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I spend a lot

> of time in consultation with teachers. I fought my

> daughter until this year. She has finally realized

> it's easier to do thw work and pull the grades than to

> put up with my shit. Luckily with I turn him

> over to his dad if he won't listen to me. In fact my

> border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me whenever

> and Greg get started on Algebra. Greg is one

> of the calmest, most rational people I've met, but

> that dog knows algebra is bad news. cries

> easily and I think that upsets the dog. It sometimes

> upsets me too. But instead of running and hiding, I'd

> like to tell him to snap out of it.

> Anyway, my college kid still blames his poor grades

> on someone else. (his roommate,professor anyone but

> himself)

> Try to remind yourself, this too shall pass. I've

> also learned how to say how it's going to be and walk

> away. I used to let my daughter draw me into the worst

> arguments. My husband taught me that I don't have to

> validate myself, I can just make the rules without

> having to explain why. You will get through this time

> and remember you will be one of these parents who will

> die for their child when they're 30. (If you let him

> live that long. lol)

> Good luck and I know where you're coming from but you

> can't shoot him. It's against the law and you'll be

> sorry later.

> Sharon

> --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> > So how are yall today? I'm kinda tired

> > today...worked too hard yesterday I

> > guess. But I did get everything I wanted to do done.

> >

> > Just got off the phone with my son's school

> > counselor. He's getting to be

> > quite a handful at home. I can't handle it alone. My

> > husband believes in the

> > too firm hand...my grandmother (who's keeping him

> > until we get his new room

> > ready) believes in NO hand, his father isn't here to

> > see the problems. So

> > I'm stuck with being the bad guy. It's running me

> > down fast. I can be on

> > top of the world all day long, but the minute he

> > steps in the house, all

> > hell seems to break loose. He's very defiant. It's

> > his way or no way.

> > Yesterday he came home and had already done his

> > homework (after I've told

> > him to BRING IT HOME to do). Thought he'd get away

> > with it and I wouldn't

> > check it...well out of 25 problems, he missed 6 of

> > them... on the first page

> > (no big deal usually BUT was on something he learned

> > LAST YEAR) Each

> > problem's answer was 1 number away from the right

> > answer, so I know he flew

> > through it. Then when we went over it, he would just

> > guess at the answers

> > and not try. The second page was unreadable. So I

> > made him to do it over

> > again....Again, I'm the bad guy. I got so upset with

> > him that I told him No

> > outside time this week.

> >

> > Sometimes I wonder how he'd behave IF he was living

> > with his father. Not

> > that i would give him to his father without a huge

> > fight.

> >

> > The Bad Guy,

> > Machelle

> >

> >

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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bullets ain't that expensive when you can reload them yourself...we have a

relative who does just this...we just save the casings......Those 9mm bullets

can get very costly!!

arlene

Terry Long wrote:

> Arlene I feel the same way. Another thing I keep

> telling myself they arn't worth the cost of the builit

> to get rid of them.

> Terry

> --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > Ken & I have T-shirts with the motto: the only

> > reason SOME people are still

> > alive is because it's against the law to kill them!

> >

> > Sharon Zeis wrote:

> >

> > > Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going to get

> > > worse. The good news is your not alone. My

> > daughter is

> > > stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain bitch, but

> > > she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been quite a

> > > handful all her life,but she's always there for me

> > > when I need her. She even called me an asshole

> > about a

> > > year ago. She's still alive because I ran out of

> > the

> > > house and calmed down before I grounded her. I

> > have

> > > her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems like

> > there is

> > > always at least one who is trying to figure out

> > how to

> > > get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my

> > daughter.

> > > This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I spend a

> > lot

> > > of time in consultation with teachers. I fought my

> > > daughter until this year. She has finally realized

> > > it's easier to do thw work and pull the grades

> > than to

> > > put up with my shit. Luckily with I turn

> > him

> > > over to his dad if he won't listen to me. In fact

> > my

> > > border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me

> > whenever

> > > and Greg get started on Algebra. Greg is

> > one

> > > of the calmest, most rational people I've met, but

> > > that dog knows algebra is bad news. cries

> > > easily and I think that upsets the dog. It

> > sometimes

> > > upsets me too. But instead of running and hiding,

> > I'd

> > > like to tell him to snap out of it.

> > > Anyway, my college kid still blames his poor

> > grades

> > > on someone else. (his roommate,professor anyone

> > but

> > > himself)

> > > Try to remind yourself, this too shall pass. I've

> > > also learned how to say how it's going to be and

> > walk

> > > away. I used to let my daughter draw me into the

> > worst

> > > arguments. My husband taught me that I don't have

> > to

> > > validate myself, I can just make the rules without

> > > having to explain why. You will get through this

> > time

> > > and remember you will be one of these parents who

> > will

> > > die for their child when they're 30. (If you let

> > him

> > > live that long. lol)

> > > Good luck and I know where you're coming from but

> > you

> > > can't shoot him. It's against the law and you'll

> > be

> > > sorry later.

> > > Sharon

> > > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> > > > So how are yall today? I'm kinda tired

> > > > today...worked too hard yesterday I

> > > > guess. But I did get everything I wanted to do

> > done.

> > > >

> > > > Just got off the phone with my son's school

> > > > counselor. He's getting to be

> > > > quite a handful at home. I can't handle it

> > alone. My

> > > > husband believes in the

> > > > too firm hand...my grandmother (who's keeping

> > him

> > > > until we get his new room

> > > > ready) believes in NO hand, his father isn't

> > here to

> > > > see the problems. So

> > > > I'm stuck with being the bad guy. It's running

> > me

> > > > down fast. I can be on

> > > > top of the world all day long, but the minute he

> > > > steps in the house, all

> > > > hell seems to break loose. He's very defiant.

> > It's

> > > > his way or no way.

> > > > Yesterday he came home and had already done his

> > > > homework (after I've told

> > > > him to BRING IT HOME to do). Thought he'd get

> > away

> > > > with it and I wouldn't

> > > > check it...well out of 25 problems, he missed 6

> > of

> > > > them... on the first page

> > > > (no big deal usually BUT was on something he

> > learned

> > > > LAST YEAR) Each

> > > > problem's answer was 1 number away from the

> > right

> > > > answer, so I know he flew

> > > > through it. Then when we went over it, he would

> > just

> > > > guess at the answers

> > > > and not try. The second page was unreadable. So

> > I

> > > > made him to do it over

> > > > again....Again, I'm the bad guy. I got so upset

> > with

> > > > him that I told him No

> > > > outside time this week.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes I wonder how he'd behave IF he was

> > living

> > > > with his father. Not

> > > > that i would give him to his father without a

> > huge

> > > > fight.

> > > >

> > > > The Bad Guy,

> > > > Machelle

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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Machelle my kids live with their father and when they make Cs he tells them it is my fault..Hum I wonder if when they make honor roll if I should definitly take the credit then too!!!

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Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going to get

worse. The good news is your not alone. My daughter is

stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain bitch, but

she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been quite a

handful all her life,but she's always there for me

when I need her. She even called me an asshole about a

year ago. She's still alive because I ran out of the

house and calmed down before I grounded her. I have

her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems like there is

always at least one who is trying to figure out how to

get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my daughter.

This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I spend a lot

of time in consultation with teachers. I fought my

daughter until this year. She has finally realized

it's easier to do thw work and pull the grades than to

put up with my shit. Luckily with I turn him

over to his dad if he won't listen to me. In fact my

border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me whenever

and Greg get started on Algebra. Greg is one

of the calmest, most rational people I've met, but

that dog knows algebra is bad news. cries

easily and I think that upsets the dog. It sometimes

upsets me too. But instead of running and hiding, I'd

like to tell him to snap out of it.

Anyway, my college kid still blames his poor grades

on someone else. (his roommate,professor anyone but

himself)

Try to remind yourself, this too shall pass. I've

also learned how to say how it's going to be and walk

away. I used to let my daughter draw me into the worst

arguments. My husband taught me that I don't have to

validate myself, I can just make the rules without

having to explain why. You will get through this time

and remember you will be one of these parents who will

die for their child when they're 30. (If you let him

live that long. lol)

Good luck and I know where you're coming from but you

can't shoot him. It's against the law and you'll be

sorry later.

Sharon

--- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> So how are yall today? I'm kinda tired

> today...worked too hard yesterday I

> guess. But I did get everything I wanted to do done.

>

> Just got off the phone with my son's school

> counselor. He's getting to be

> quite a handful at home. I can't handle it alone. My

> husband believes in the

> too firm hand...my grandmother (who's keeping him

> until we get his new room

> ready) believes in NO hand, his father isn't here to

> see the problems. So

> I'm stuck with being the bad guy. It's running me

> down fast. I can be on

> top of the world all day long, but the minute he

> steps in the house, all

> hell seems to break loose. He's very defiant. It's

> his way or no way.

> Yesterday he came home and had already done his

> homework (after I've told

> him to BRING IT HOME to do). Thought he'd get away

> with it and I wouldn't

> check it...well out of 25 problems, he missed 6 of

> them... on the first page

> (no big deal usually BUT was on something he learned

> LAST YEAR) Each

> problem's answer was 1 number away from the right

> answer, so I know he flew

> through it. Then when we went over it, he would just

> guess at the answers

> and not try. The second page was unreadable. So I

> made him to do it over

> again....Again, I'm the bad guy. I got so upset with

> him that I told him No

> outside time this week.

>

> Sometimes I wonder how he'd behave IF he was living

> with his father. Not

> that i would give him to his father without a huge

> fight.

>

> The Bad Guy,

> Machelle

>

>

>

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Yes you should. Good or bad it's our fault. My

husband's ex blamed everything on their dad. Then she

got tired of being a mom and gave them to the ogre.

lol

Sharon

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> Machelle my kids live with their father and when

> they make Cs he tells them

> it is my fault..Hum I wonder if when they make honor

> roll if I should

> definitly take the credit then too!!!

>

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I just don't know how much of this my nerves will take...Already it looks

like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only are his grades horrible,

his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is always sending me little

notes telling me the same thing over and over. She seems to think he needs

to be put on medicine and has preached to me about it several times. The

doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a behavior problem. So it's

damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am keeping from his father.

Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original Custody Battle email in

archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son, but after the counselor

told me that was an okay thing to do from time to time, I do believe I am

going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't working... Only thing,

I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him have it....

Machelle

Re: [ ] The Bad Guy

Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going to get

worse. The good news is your not alone. My daughter is

stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain bitch, but

she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been quite a

handful all her life,but she's always there for me

when I need her. She even called me an asshole about a

year ago. She's still alive because I ran out of the

house and calmed down before I grounded her. I have

her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems like there is

always at least one who is trying to figure out how to

get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my daughter.

This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I spend a lot

of time in consultation with teachers. I fought my

daughter until this year. She has finally realized

it's easier to do thw work and pull the grades than to

put up with my shit. Luckily with I turn him

over to his dad if he won't listen to me. In fact my

border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me whenever

and Greg get started on Algebra. Greg is one

of the calmest, most rational people I've met, but

that dog knows algebra is bad news. cries

easily and I think that upsets the dog. It sometimes

upsets me too. But instead of running and hiding, I'd

like to tell him to snap out of it.

Anyway, my college kid still blames his poor grades

on someone else. (his roommate,professor anyone but

himself)

Try to remind yourself, this too shall pass. I've

also learned how to say how it's going to be and walk

away. I used to let my daughter draw me into the worst

arguments. My husband taught me that I don't have to

validate myself, I can just make the rules without

having to explain why. You will get through this time

and remember you will be one of these parents who will

die for their child when they're 30. (If you let him

live that long. lol)

Good luck and I know where you're coming from but you

can't shoot him. It's against the law and you'll be

sorry later.

Sharon

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So will he have a different teacher if he has to do

2nd grade again? If he'll have the same teacher,it may

be a problem. I keep telling my kids if they have to

do a grade over, it will be that much longer in

school. At 8, they don't really get that though.

I doubt if you will beat him because you are aware

that you could. There have been times I've wanted to

kill a kid so I walk away for awhile and become sane.

My daughter DID tell me once that when I got real

Quiet, it scared her because then she didn't know what

I'd do. I guess yelling became normal. Hopefully

someone else can give you some feedback. We all just

do the best we can and go on. Raising kids is the

hardest job in the world.

Sharon

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If he does, he'd BETTER have a different teacher or else I'll him from there

and put him in another school.....I really dislike that woman. You can see

her house from my front porch...

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So will he have a different teacher if he has to do

2nd grade again? If he'll have the same teacher,it may

be a problem. I keep telling my kids if they have to

do a grade over, it will be that much longer in

school. At 8, they don't really get that though.

I doubt if you will beat him because you are aware

that you could. There have been times I've wanted to

kill a kid so I walk away for awhile and become sane.

My daughter DID tell me once that when I got real

Quiet, it scared her because then she didn't know what

I'd do. I guess yelling became normal. Hopefully

someone else can give you some feedback. We all just

do the best we can and go on. Raising kids is the

hardest job in the world.

Sharon

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Hey Sharon,

My Baby (30) daughter thought she was big and bad enough to call me a

bitch under her breath this summer.... Bare footed with my neck brace on

and bad back I flew across the road and snatched her up and slapped her

face so hard she thought I punched her..... She has lived in Florida for

6 years or more and she was home for a visit.......She is 5'7 " and

outweighs me... I am 5'2 " and 108 lbs. but I taught her respect and she

will remember what I taught her..... I'll be dammed if my kid is calling

me a curse word and getting away with it... She was yelling Mom!!!!

Don't hit me!!!! It is funny now, but she will think twice before she

does that again....... I didn't want to hurt her.... Just slapped her

mouth..... AND..... She can't call DYFS........ LOL......

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

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Yeah, they get bold, don't they. I told my daughter

she was allowed to think that but she'd better never

put in into words again.

Sharon

--- diane214@... wrote:

> Hey Sharon,

> My Baby (30) daughter thought she was big and bad

> enough to call me a

> bitch under her breath this summer.... Bare footed

> with my neck brace on

> and bad back I flew across the road and snatched her

> up and slapped her

> face so hard she thought I punched her..... She has

> lived in Florida for

> 6 years or more and she was home for a

> visit.......She is 5'7 " and

> outweighs me... I am 5'2 " and 108 lbs. but I taught

> her respect and she

> will remember what I taught her..... I'll be dammed

> if my kid is calling

> me a curse word and getting away with it... She was

> yelling Mom!!!!

> Don't hit me!!!! It is funny now, but she will think

> twice before she

> does that again....... I didn't want to hurt her....

> Just slapped her

> mouth..... AND..... She can't call DYFS........

> LOL......

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

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Jan if you the blame for only having C's. It's only

fare that you get the credit for the good. Your ex

sounds like a jerk.

Terry

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> Machelle my kids live with their father and when

> they make Cs he tells them

> it is my fault..Hum I wonder if when they make honor

> roll if I should

> definitly take the credit then too!!!

>

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Our daughter had the same thing in the first year.

Except the teacher kept telling us we were not

discpling her enough. The poor girl was in trouble the

whole year. The next year we were in a different

school. The first week in the new school, her teacher

called my wife suggesting we have a doctor check her

out. They dicovered she was hyper active. They put her

on meds that work untill her teens then there was

other problms.

Terry

--- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> I just don't know how much of this my nerves will

> take...Already it looks

> like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only

> are his grades horrible,

> his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is

> always sending me little

> notes telling me the same thing over and over. She

> seems to think he needs

> to be put on medicine and has preached to me about

> it several times. The

> doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a

> behavior problem. So it's

> damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am

> keeping from his father.

> Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original

> Custody Battle email in

> archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son,

> but after the counselor

> told me that was an okay thing to do from time to

> time, I do believe I am

> going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't

> working... Only thing,

> I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him

> have it....

>

> Machelle

>

>

>

> Re: [ ] The Bad Guy

>

>

> Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going to get

> worse. The good news is your not alone. My daughter

> is

> stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain bitch, but

> she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been quite a

> handful all her life,but she's always there for me

> when I need her. She even called me an asshole about

> a

> year ago. She's still alive because I ran out of the

> house and calmed down before I grounded her. I have

> her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems like there

> is

> always at least one who is trying to figure out how

> to

> get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my daughter.

> This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I spend a lot

> of time in consultation with teachers. I fought my

> daughter until this year. She has finally realized

> it's easier to do thw work and pull the grades than

> to

> put up with my shit. Luckily with I turn him

> over to his dad if he won't listen to me. In fact my

> border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me whenever

> and Greg get started on Algebra. Greg is one

> of the calmest, most rational people I've met, but

> that dog knows algebra is bad news. cries

> easily and I think that upsets the dog. It sometimes

> upsets me too. But instead of running and hiding,

> I'd

> like to tell him to snap out of it.

> Anyway, my college kid still blames his poor grades

> on someone else. (his roommate,professor anyone but

> himself)

> Try to remind yourself, this too shall pass. I've

> also learned how to say how it's going to be and

> walk

> away. I used to let my daughter draw me into the

> worst

> arguments. My husband taught me that I don't have to

> validate myself, I can just make the rules without

> having to explain why. You will get through this

> time

> and remember you will be one of these parents who

> will

> die for their child when they're 30. (If you let him

> live that long. lol)

> Good luck and I know where you're coming from but

> you

> can't shoot him. It's against the law and you'll be

> sorry later.

> Sharon

>

>

>

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Diane If one of my kids talked like that to Susy,

they will have me on there backs & I'll kick their

behinds from Az & they will land up by your house with

instruction to walk back home. When Susy was a teen

" her parents were in there early 40's when she was

born " She decidded she was big & tough. Her Mom told

her to stop what she was doing or she was going to

slap her. The next thing Susy knew she was on the

other side of the room. That was the last time she

talked back to her parents.

Terry

--- diane214@... wrote:

> Hey Sharon,

> My Baby (30) daughter thought she was big and bad

> enough to call me a

> bitch under her breath this summer.... Bare footed

> with my neck brace on

> and bad back I flew across the road and snatched her

> up and slapped her

> face so hard she thought I punched her..... She has

> lived in Florida for

> 6 years or more and she was home for a

> visit.......She is 5'7 " and

> outweighs me... I am 5'2 " and 108 lbs. but I taught

> her respect and she

> will remember what I taught her..... I'll be dammed

> if my kid is calling

> me a curse word and getting away with it... She was

> yelling Mom!!!!

> Don't hit me!!!! It is funny now, but she will think

> twice before she

> does that again....... I didn't want to hurt her....

> Just slapped her

> mouth..... AND..... She can't call DYFS........

> LOL......

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

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Arlene I feel the same way. Another thing I keep

telling myself they arn't worth the cost of the builit

to get rid of them.

Terry

--- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> Ken & I have T-shirts with the motto: the only

> reason SOME people are still

> alive is because it's against the law to kill them!

>

> Sharon Zeis wrote:

>

> > Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going to get

> > worse. The good news is your not alone. My

> daughter is

> > stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain bitch, but

> > she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been quite a

> > handful all her life,but she's always there for me

> > when I need her. She even called me an asshole

> about a

> > year ago. She's still alive because I ran out of

> the

> > house and calmed down before I grounded her. I

> have

> > her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems like

> there is

> > always at least one who is trying to figure out

> how to

> > get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my

> daughter.

> > This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I spend a

> lot

> > of time in consultation with teachers. I fought my

> > daughter until this year. She has finally realized

> > it's easier to do thw work and pull the grades

> than to

> > put up with my shit. Luckily with I turn

> him

> > over to his dad if he won't listen to me. In fact

> my

> > border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me

> whenever

> > and Greg get started on Algebra. Greg is

> one

> > of the calmest, most rational people I've met, but

> > that dog knows algebra is bad news. cries

> > easily and I think that upsets the dog. It

> sometimes

> > upsets me too. But instead of running and hiding,

> I'd

> > like to tell him to snap out of it.

> > Anyway, my college kid still blames his poor

> grades

> > on someone else. (his roommate,professor anyone

> but

> > himself)

> > Try to remind yourself, this too shall pass. I've

> > also learned how to say how it's going to be and

> walk

> > away. I used to let my daughter draw me into the

> worst

> > arguments. My husband taught me that I don't have

> to

> > validate myself, I can just make the rules without

> > having to explain why. You will get through this

> time

> > and remember you will be one of these parents who

> will

> > die for their child when they're 30. (If you let

> him

> > live that long. lol)

> > Good luck and I know where you're coming from but

> you

> > can't shoot him. It's against the law and you'll

> be

> > sorry later.

> > Sharon

> > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> > > So how are yall today? I'm kinda tired

> > > today...worked too hard yesterday I

> > > guess. But I did get everything I wanted to do

> done.

> > >

> > > Just got off the phone with my son's school

> > > counselor. He's getting to be

> > > quite a handful at home. I can't handle it

> alone. My

> > > husband believes in the

> > > too firm hand...my grandmother (who's keeping

> him

> > > until we get his new room

> > > ready) believes in NO hand, his father isn't

> here to

> > > see the problems. So

> > > I'm stuck with being the bad guy. It's running

> me

> > > down fast. I can be on

> > > top of the world all day long, but the minute he

> > > steps in the house, all

> > > hell seems to break loose. He's very defiant.

> It's

> > > his way or no way.

> > > Yesterday he came home and had already done his

> > > homework (after I've told

> > > him to BRING IT HOME to do). Thought he'd get

> away

> > > with it and I wouldn't

> > > check it...well out of 25 problems, he missed 6

> of

> > > them... on the first page

> > > (no big deal usually BUT was on something he

> learned

> > > LAST YEAR) Each

> > > problem's answer was 1 number away from the

> right

> > > answer, so I know he flew

> > > through it. Then when we went over it, he would

> just

> > > guess at the answers

> > > and not try. The second page was unreadable. So

> I

> > > made him to do it over

> > > again....Again, I'm the bad guy. I got so upset

> with

> > > him that I told him No

> > > outside time this week.

> > >

> > > Sometimes I wonder how he'd behave IF he was

> living

> > > with his father. Not

> > > that i would give him to his father without a

> huge

> > > fight.

> > >

> > > The Bad Guy,

> > > Machelle

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Arlene I know that reloads are cheeper. But these

jerks that are around that you would love to rid the

world of. Are not even worth the cost of a reload.

I remmber a coulple of story's my bother inlaw told

me. Susy's ex went out to the other Brother's " JIM "

farm Bill was there " after she finaly left the jerk

but befor the DIVORICE " asked them to take him

hunting " they both knew that the ex used Susy " Baby

sister " as aunching bag. Bill was all for taking the

jerk hunting but Jim talked him out of it say there

was no way they could convence a cort that it was

axcendtal A couple of years later Bill was driving his

truck pulling a horse traller & saw mim hitch hiking,

Bill said it was tempting to whip the traller around

so that it would hit him then thought better of it.

Terry

--- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> bullets ain't that expensive when you can reload

> them yourself...we have a

> relative who does just this...we just save the

> casings......Those 9mm bullets

> can get very costly!!

> arlene

>

> Terry Long wrote:

>

> > Arlene I feel the same way. Another thing I

> keep

> > telling myself they arn't worth the cost of the

> builit

> > to get rid of them.

> > Terry

> > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > > Ken & I have T-shirts with the motto: the only

> > > reason SOME people are still

> > > alive is because it's against the law to kill

> them!

> > >

> > > Sharon Zeis wrote:

> > >

> > > > Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going to

> get

> > > > worse. The good news is your not alone. My

> > > daughter is

> > > > stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain bitch,

> but

> > > > she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been

> quite a

> > > > handful all her life,but she's always there

> for me

> > > > when I need her. She even called me an asshole

> > > about a

> > > > year ago. She's still alive because I ran out

> of

> > > the

> > > > house and calmed down before I grounded her. I

> > > have

> > > > her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems like

> > > there is

> > > > always at least one who is trying to figure

> out

> > > how to

> > > > get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my

> > > daughter.

> > > > This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I spend

> a

> > > lot

> > > > of time in consultation with teachers. I

> fought my

> > > > daughter until this year. She has finally

> realized

> > > > it's easier to do thw work and pull the grades

> > > than to

> > > > put up with my shit. Luckily with I

> turn

> > > him

> > > > over to his dad if he won't listen to me. In

> fact

> > > my

> > > > border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me

> > > whenever

> > > > and Greg get started on Algebra. Greg

> is

> > > one

> > > > of the calmest, most rational people I've met,

> but

> > > > that dog knows algebra is bad news.

> cries

> > > > easily and I think that upsets the dog. It

> > > sometimes

> > > > upsets me too. But instead of running and

> hiding,

> > > I'd

> > > > like to tell him to snap out of it.

> > > > Anyway, my college kid still blames his poor

> > > grades

> > > > on someone else. (his roommate,professor

> anyone

> > > but

> > > > himself)

> > > > Try to remind yourself, this too shall pass.

> I've

> > > > also learned how to say how it's going to be

> and

> > > walk

> > > > away. I used to let my daughter draw me into

> the

> > > worst

> > > > arguments. My husband taught me that I don't

> have

> > > to

> > > > validate myself, I can just make the rules

> without

> > > > having to explain why. You will get through

> this

> > > time

> > > > and remember you will be one of these parents

> who

> > > will

> > > > die for their child when they're 30. (If you

> let

> > > him

> > > > live that long. lol)

> > > > Good luck and I know where you're coming from

> but

> > > you

> > > > can't shoot him. It's against the law and

> you'll

> > > be

> > > > sorry later.

> > > > Sharon

> > > > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > So how are yall today? I'm kinda tired

> > > > > today...worked too hard yesterday I

> > > > > guess. But I did get everything I wanted to

> do

> > > done.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just got off the phone with my son's school

> > > > > counselor. He's getting to be

> > > > > quite a handful at home. I can't handle it

> > > alone. My

> > > > > husband believes in the

> > > > > too firm hand...my grandmother (who's

> keeping

> > > him

> > > > > until we get his new room

> > > > > ready) believes in NO hand, his father isn't

> > > here to

> > > > > see the problems. So

> > > > > I'm stuck with being the bad guy. It's

> running

> > > me

> > > > > down fast. I can be on

> > > > > top of the world all day long, but the

> minute he

> > > > > steps in the house, all

> > > > > hell seems to break loose. He's very

> defiant.

> > > It's

> > > > > his way or no way.

> > > > > Yesterday he came home and had already done

> his

> > > > > homework (after I've told

> > > > > him to BRING IT HOME to do). Thought he'd

> get

> > > away

> > > > > with it and I wouldn't

> > > > > check it...well out of 25 problems, he

> missed 6

> > > of

> > > > > them... on the first page

> > > > > (no big deal usually BUT was on something he

> > > learned

> > > > > LAST YEAR) Each

> > > > > problem's answer was 1 number away from the

> > > right

> > > > > answer, so I know he flew

> > > > > through it. Then when we went over it, he

> would

> > > just

> > > > > guess at the answers

> > > > > and not try. The second page was

> unreadable. So

> > > I

> > > > > made him to do it over

> > > > > again....Again, I'm the bad guy. I got so

> upset

> > > with

> > > > > him that I told him No

> > > > > outside time this week.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes I wonder how he'd behave IF he was

> > > living

> > > > > with his father. Not

> > > > > that i would give him to his father without

> a

> > > huge

> > > > > fight.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Bad Guy,

> > > > > Machelle

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > >

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He is an ass Terry..Now since he is going on a vacation to Florida with his wife he won't let the kids come down this weekend..Says he don't trust I'll bring them home..R U ready to come down and give him that ass whippin yet??

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I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was

undetected then and I just went through school trying

to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my

teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble with

authority figures and they all thought that I was not

working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am

on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate

the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young,

just some food for thought. I wish I had been treated

earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got

my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46

years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I

know I was watching my son very closely through his

earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by

8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it.

-dz-

--- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> I just don't know how much of this my nerves will

> take...Already it looks

> like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only

> are his grades horrible,

> his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is

> always sending me little

> notes telling me the same thing over and over. She

> seems to think he needs

> to be put on medicine and has preached to me about

> it several times. The

> doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a

> behavior problem. So it's

> damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am

> keeping from his father.

> Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original

> Custody Battle email in

> archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son,

> but after the counselor

> told me that was an okay thing to do from time to

> time, I do believe I am

> going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't

> working... Only thing,

> I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him

> have it....

>

> Machelle

>

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Terry,

I think she learned her lesson!!!!!!! Took her 30 years to even get

brave enough to say it under her breath..(I wasn't supposed to hear

it)... Will take her another 30 years to get over the shock that I still

had it in me!!!!!!! ;o I get the respect now...... I rocked her

world.......

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

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Diane when my son was a small boy into his teens

I would get on the floor wrestle with him & I would

take him down every time. Up untill he moved out of

state. He would get to thanking OLD DAD couldn't do it

anymore & I would have to show him OLD DAD still had

it him. It wasn't as easy as it use to be but I would

still take him down.

Terry

--- diane214@... wrote:

> Terry,

> I think she learned her lesson!!!!!!! Took her 30

> years to even get

> brave enough to say it under her breath..(I wasn't

> supposed to hear

> it)... Will take her another 30 years to get over

> the shock that I still

> had it in me!!!!!!! ;o I get the respect now...... I

> rocked her

> world.......

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

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I would love to, Jerks like this are good for

nothing. Most of them are big & tough with a woman but

when they have to face another man they run away.

Terry

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> He is an ass Terry..Now since he is going on a

> vacation to Florida with his

> wife he won't let the kids come down this

> weekend..Says he don't trust I'll

> bring them home..R U ready to come down and give him

> that ass whippin yet??

>

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Hi dz,

I have just heard so many negative things about Ritalin and similar

medications.

Some say that it will lead to drug use, that he will be a zombie, that it

will make him where he can't sleep at night...etc...

I'm just not sure about it. I want to help him NOW, but what about in the

long run, will it really be helping him?

Machelle

Treasure the love you receive about all. It will survive long after your

gold and good health have vanished.

-Og Mandino

Re: [ ] The Bad Guy

I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was

undetected then and I just went through school trying

to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my

teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble with

authority figures and they all thought that I was not

working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am

on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate

the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young,

just some food for thought. I wish I had been treated

earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got

my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46

years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I

know I was watching my son very closely through his

earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by

8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it.

-dz-

--- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> I just don't know how much of this my nerves will

> take...Already it looks

> like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only

> are his grades horrible,

> his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is

> always sending me little

> notes telling me the same thing over and over. She

> seems to think he needs

> to be put on medicine and has preached to me about

> it several times. The

> doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a

> behavior problem. So it's

> damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am

> keeping from his father.

> Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original

> Custody Battle email in

> archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son,

> but after the counselor

> told me that was an okay thing to do from time to

> time, I do believe I am

> going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't

> working... Only thing,

> I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him

> have it....

>

> Machelle

>

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You can also go to a health food store and there is something we use to put my grandson on for ADHD..It is so much better than Ritilan on a child..It doesn't make them a zombit but you do see the difference within 30 minutes..Just go to the heath food store and tell them you want something for ADHD and they know what it is..Wouldn't hurt to try it..It cost about $13.00 for a big bottle of it..It is tablets..

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