Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 know what you mean Terry--every year up here there are several supposed 'hunting accidents' Luckily - we don't hunt anymore (Ken & I)!!! Seems like it's always somebody's relative accidently shooting another relation....Where used to live (we had horses & during hunting season we'd have to put red or orange blankets on our horses to keep them for being mistaken for deer or Elk We ran off quite a few hunters? from shooting into our property or on our property.....They never seem to read the signs you post!! @ that time we lived @ the near the end of a logging road-it actually went thru to several other logging roads & we had a lot of problems with city hunters & local poachers Finally we got Tree farm manager to put up a huge gate- they gave us the key for this gate- as we used to get our firewood on the property arlene Terry Long wrote: > Arlene I know that reloads are cheeper. But these > jerks that are around that you would love to rid the > world of. Are not even worth the cost of a reload. > I remmber a coulple of story's my bother inlaw told > me. Susy's ex went out to the other Brother's " JIM " > farm Bill was there " after she finaly left the jerk > but befor the DIVORICE " asked them to take him > hunting " they both knew that the ex used Susy " Baby > sister " as aunching bag. Bill was all for taking the > jerk hunting but Jim talked him out of it say there > was no way they could convence a cort that it was > axcendtal A couple of years later Bill was driving his > truck pulling a horse traller & saw mim hitch hiking, > Bill said it was tempting to whip the traller around > so that it would hit him then thought better of it. > Terry > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > bullets ain't that expensive when you can reload > > them yourself...we have a > > relative who does just this...we just save the > > casings......Those 9mm bullets > > can get very costly!! > > arlene > > > > Terry Long wrote: > > > > > Arlene I feel the same way. Another thing I > > keep > > > telling myself they arn't worth the cost of the > > builit > > > to get rid of them. > > > Terry > > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > > > Ken & I have T-shirts with the motto: the only > > > > reason SOME people are still > > > > alive is because it's against the law to kill > > them! > > > > > > > > Sharon Zeis wrote: > > > > > > > > > Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going to > > get > > > > > worse. The good news is your not alone. My > > > > daughter is > > > > > stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain bitch, > > but > > > > > she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been > > quite a > > > > > handful all her life,but she's always there > > for me > > > > > when I need her. She even called me an asshole > > > > about a > > > > > year ago. She's still alive because I ran out > > of > > > > the > > > > > house and calmed down before I grounded her. I > > > > have > > > > > her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems like > > > > there is > > > > > always at least one who is trying to figure > > out > > > > how to > > > > > get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my > > > > daughter. > > > > > This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I spend > > a > > > > lot > > > > > of time in consultation with teachers. I > > fought my > > > > > daughter until this year. She has finally > > realized > > > > > it's easier to do thw work and pull the grades > > > > than to > > > > > put up with my shit. Luckily with I > > turn > > > > him > > > > > over to his dad if he won't listen to me. In > > fact > > > > my > > > > > border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me > > > > whenever > > > > > and Greg get started on Algebra. Greg > > is > > > > one > > > > > of the calmest, most rational people I've met, > > but > > > > > that dog knows algebra is bad news. > > cries > > > > > easily and I think that upsets the dog. It > > > > sometimes > > > > > upsets me too. But instead of running and > > hiding, > > > > I'd > > > > > like to tell him to snap out of it. > > > > > Anyway, my college kid still blames his poor > > > > grades > > > > > on someone else. (his roommate,professor > > anyone > > > > but > > > > > himself) > > > > > Try to remind yourself, this too shall pass. > > I've > > > > > also learned how to say how it's going to be > > and > > > > walk > > > > > away. I used to let my daughter draw me into > > the > > > > worst > > > > > arguments. My husband taught me that I don't > > have > > > > to > > > > > validate myself, I can just make the rules > > without > > > > > having to explain why. You will get through > > this > > > > time > > > > > and remember you will be one of these parents > > who > > > > will > > > > > die for their child when they're 30. (If you > > let > > > > him > > > > > live that long. lol) > > > > > Good luck and I know where you're coming from > > but > > > > you > > > > > can't shoot him. It's against the law and > > you'll > > > > be > > > > > sorry later. > > > > > Sharon > > > > > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > So how are yall today? I'm kinda tired > > > > > > today...worked too hard yesterday I > > > > > > guess. But I did get everything I wanted to > > do > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just got off the phone with my son's school > > > > > > counselor. He's getting to be > > > > > > quite a handful at home. I can't handle it > > > > alone. My > > > > > > husband believes in the > > > > > > too firm hand...my grandmother (who's > > keeping > > > > him > > > > > > until we get his new room > > > > > > ready) believes in NO hand, his father isn't > > > > here to > > > > > > see the problems. So > > > > > > I'm stuck with being the bad guy. It's > > running > > > > me > > > > > > down fast. I can be on > > > > > > top of the world all day long, but the > > minute he > > > > > > steps in the house, all > > > > > > hell seems to break loose. He's very > > defiant. > > > > It's > > > > > > his way or no way. > > > > > > Yesterday he came home and had already done > > his > > > > > > homework (after I've told > > > > > > him to BRING IT HOME to do). Thought he'd > > get > > > > away > > > > > > with it and I wouldn't > > > > > > check it...well out of 25 problems, he > > missed 6 > > > > of > > > > > > them... on the first page > > > > > > (no big deal usually BUT was on something he > > > > learned > > > > > > LAST YEAR) Each > > > > > > problem's answer was 1 number away from the > > > > right > > > > > > answer, so I know he flew > > > > > > through it. Then when we went over it, he > > would > > > > just > > > > > > guess at the answers > > > > > > and not try. The second page was > > unreadable. So > > > > I > > > > > > made him to do it over > > > > > > again....Again, I'm the bad guy. I got so > > upset > > > > with > > > > > > him that I told him No > > > > > > outside time this week. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes I wonder how he'd behave IF he was > > > > living > > > > > > with his father. Not > > > > > > that i would give him to his father without > > a > > > > huge > > > > > > fight. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Bad Guy, > > > > > > Machelle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Maybe that's what I had as a kid too as I was always the cynical class clown & everything else you said below fit me to a tee imaganeer wrote: > I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was > undetected then and I just went through school trying > to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my > teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble with > authority figures and they all thought that I was not > working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am > on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate > the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young, > just some food for thought. I wish I had been treated > earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got > my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46 > years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I > know I was watching my son very closely through his > earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by > 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it. > -dz- > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > > I just don't know how much of this my nerves will > > take...Already it looks > > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only > > are his grades horrible, > > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is > > always sending me little > > notes telling me the same thing over and over. She > > seems to think he needs > > to be put on medicine and has preached to me about > > it several times. The > > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a > > behavior problem. So it's > > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am > > keeping from his father. > > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original > > Custody Battle email in > > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son, > > but after the counselor > > told me that was an okay thing to do from time to > > time, I do believe I am > > going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't > > working... Only thing, > > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him > > have it.... > > > > Machelle > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 sounds like you're in dire need of my 9mm Jannewilms42@... wrote: He is an ass Terry..Now since he is going on a vacation to Florida with his wife he won't let the kids come down this weekend..Says he don't trust I'll bring them home..R U ready to come down and give him that ass whippin yet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 That's a tough question, I know. I had to wrestle with that myself. You can surf the internet and find a lot of stuff about ADHD. If that's even the problem. It's a very touchy subject. -dz- --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > Hi dz, > I have just heard so many negative things about > Ritalin and similar > medications. > Some say that it will lead to drug use, that he will > be a zombie, that it > will make him where he can't sleep at night...etc... > I'm just not sure about it. I want to help him NOW, > but what about in the > long run, will it really be helping him? > > Machelle > > Treasure the love you receive about all. It will > survive long after your > gold and good health have vanished. > > -Og Mandino > Re: [ ] The Bad Guy > > > I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was > undetected then and I just went through school > trying > to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my > teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble > with > authority figures and they all thought that I was > not > working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am > on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate > the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young, > just some food for thought. I wish I had been > treated > earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I > got > my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46 > years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I > know I was watching my son very closely through his > earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by > 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it. > -dz- > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > > I just don't know how much of this my nerves will > > take...Already it looks > > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only > > are his grades horrible, > > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is > > always sending me little > > notes telling me the same thing over and over. She > > seems to think he needs > > to be put on medicine and has preached to me about > > it several times. The > > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a > > behavior problem. So it's > > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I > am > > keeping from his father. > > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original > > Custody Battle email in > > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son, > > but after the counselor > > told me that was an okay thing to do from time to > > time, I do believe I am > > going to start doing that. Restrictions just > aren't > > working... Only thing, > > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him > > have it.... > > > > Machelle > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Machelle it all in the dosage that the Drs put the child on some need less -some more arlene Machelle wrote: > Hi dz, > I have just heard so many negative things about Ritalin and similar > medications. > Some say that it will lead to drug use, that he will be a zombie, that it > will make him where he can't sleep at night...etc... > I'm just not sure about it. I want to help him NOW, but what about in the > long run, will it really be helping him? > > Machelle > > Treasure the love you receive about all. It will survive long after your > gold and good health have vanished. > -Og Mandino > Re: [ ] The Bad Guy > > I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was > undetected then and I just went through school trying > to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my > teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble with > authority figures and they all thought that I was not > working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am > on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate > the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young, > just some food for thought. I wish I had been treated > earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got > my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46 > years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I > know I was watching my son very closely through his > earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by > 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it. > -dz- > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > > I just don't know how much of this my nerves will > > take...Already it looks > > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only > > are his grades horrible, > > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is > > always sending me little > > notes telling me the same thing over and over. She > > seems to think he needs > > to be put on medicine and has preached to me about > > it several times. The > > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a > > behavior problem. So it's > > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am > > keeping from his father. > > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original > > Custody Battle email in > > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son, > > but after the counselor > > told me that was an okay thing to do from time to > > time, I do believe I am > > going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't > > working... Only thing, > > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him > > have it.... > > > > Machelle > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 that sounds even better than drugs for kids Jannewilms42@... wrote: You can also go to a health food store and there is something we use to put my grandson on for ADHD..It is so much better than Ritilan on a child..It doesn't make them a zombit but you do see the difference within 30 minutes..Just go to the heath food store and tell them you want something for ADHD and they know what it is..Wouldn't hurt to try it..It cost about $13.00 for a big bottle of it..It is tablets.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Diane ---webtv--you must be able to send more than you can receive??? LOL Really just wondering about it as I know of no one that has webtv but you!????? Oh yeah you said you couldn't receive a lot of links about HepC also- I found an interesting article having to do with soy products If you would like I can snail mail it to you.....you can respond privately if you wish.....you'd be amazed @ the new info on soy-- recently found out by medical scientists & a team of Drs. arlene diane214@... wrote: > Hi Vicky, > I think everyone is just trying to take their minds off of the Hep > C..... By all means if there is a question related to Heo C and > recovery, it will be answered and support will be given!!!! How have you > been Vicky????? > I know that the messages have been overwhelming..... My web tv has been > bouncing them cause it can't take all that mail..... Can we try to > consolidae our replies into one message instead of answering each one > separately guys???? I am missing a lot of things because of the > bounces...... Just a thought... ;o > Hope everyone has a super day!!!!!! > > Angel Hugs, > Diane > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Machelle, our daughter was on Ritalin from around 7 or 8 till around 13. Ritalin on a child pre puberty is like a downer suppress the hyperactive. But when a child reaches puberty Ritalin is an upper. had no ill side affects from the Ritalin. It did help her sit in class & do her school work. We had to stop the ritalin after she reached puberty. Other mental problems set in that she still has today, she will be 25 next month. Her problems after puberty had nothing do with the Rialin. She inherited from her natural father. She reminds Susy so much of her Ex it's scary. hasn't seen him seance she was 3 years old, I adopted her when she was 5. was seen by three doctors, before we srtarted her on it. They all agread that the Ritalin would help. There is some kids on it that shouldn't be. That's why you need to be carefull. If it's just a behavor problem & not a medical problem the Ritalin. The Ritalin wont help. Terry --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > Hi dz, > I have just heard so many negative things about > Ritalin and similar > medications. > Some say that it will lead to drug use, that he will > be a zombie, that it > will make him where he can't sleep at night...etc... > I'm just not sure about it. I want to help him NOW, > but what about in the > long run, will it really be helping him? > > Machelle > > Treasure the love you receive about all. It will > survive long after your > gold and good health have vanished. > > -Og Mandino > Re: [ ] The Bad Guy > > > I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was > undetected then and I just went through school > trying > to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my > teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble > with > authority figures and they all thought that I was > not > working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am > on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate > the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young, > just some food for thought. I wish I had been > treated > earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I > got > my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46 > years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I > know I was watching my son very closely through his > earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by > 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it. > -dz- > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > > I just don't know how much of this my nerves will > > take...Already it looks > > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only > > are his grades horrible, > > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is > > always sending me little > > notes telling me the same thing over and over. She > > seems to think he needs > > to be put on medicine and has preached to me about > > it several times. The > > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a > > behavior problem. So it's > > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I > am > > keeping from his father. > > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original > > Custody Battle email in > > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son, > > but after the counselor > > told me that was an okay thing to do from time to > > time, I do believe I am > > going to start doing that. Restrictions just > aren't > > working... Only thing, > > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him > > have it.... > > > > Machelle > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Hi Vicky, I think everyone is just trying to take their minds off of the Hep C..... By all means if there is a question related to Heo C and recovery, it will be answered and support will be given!!!! How have you been Vicky????? I know that the messages have been overwhelming..... My web tv has been bouncing them cause it can't take all that mail..... Can we try to consolidae our replies into one message instead of answering each one separately guys???? I am missing a lot of things because of the bounces...... Just a thought... ;o Hope everyone has a super day!!!!!! Angel Hugs, Diane May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Re: [ ] The Bad Guy > > > I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was > undetected then and I just went through school trying > to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my > teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble with > authority figures and they all thought that I was not > working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am > on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate > the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young, > just some food for thought. I wish I had been treated > earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got > my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46 > years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I > know I was watching my son very closely through his > earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by > 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it. > -dz- > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > > I just don't know how much of this my nerves will > > take...Already it looks > > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only > > are his grades horrible, > > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is > > always sending me little > > notes telling me the same thing over and over. She > > seems to think he needs > > to be put on medicine and has preached to me about > > it several times. The > > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a > > behavior problem. So it's > > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am > > keeping from his father. > > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original > > Custody Battle email in > > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son, > > but after the counselor > > told me that was an okay thing to do from time to > > time, I do believe I am > > going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't > > working... Only thing, > > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him > > have it.... > > > > Machelle > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Re: [ ] The Bad Guy > > > I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was > undetected then and I just went through school trying > to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my > teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble with > authority figures and they all thought that I was not > working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am > on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate > the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young, > just some food for thought. I wish I had been treated > earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got > my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46 > years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I > know I was watching my son very closely through his > earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by > 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it. > -dz- > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > > I just don't know how much of this my nerves will > > take...Already it looks > > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only > > are his grades horrible, > > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is > > always sending me little > > notes telling me the same thing over and over. She > > seems to think he needs > > to be put on medicine and has preached to me about > > it several times. The > > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a > > behavior problem. So it's > > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am > > keeping from his father. > > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original > > Custody Battle email in > > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son, > > but after the counselor > > told me that was an okay thing to do from time to > > time, I do believe I am > > going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't > > working... Only thing, > > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him > > have it.... > > > > Machelle > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Hi Machelle I just saw a show on tv about Ritalin this week. I heard that children that are on Ritalin are about 80% less likely to abuse drugs in their teens than children who are not. This was a statement from the drug company so I don't really know about the validity of it. Re: [ ] The Bad Guy > > > I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was > undetected then and I just went through school trying > to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my > teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble with > authority figures and they all thought that I was not > working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am > on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate > the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young, > just some food for thought. I wish I had been treated > earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got > my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46 > years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I > know I was watching my son very closely through his > earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by > 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it. > -dz- > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > > I just don't know how much of this my nerves will > > take...Already it looks > > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only > > are his grades horrible, > > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is > > always sending me little > > notes telling me the same thing over and over. She > > seems to think he needs > > to be put on medicine and has preached to me about > > it several times. The > > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a > > behavior problem. So it's > > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am > > keeping from his father. > > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original > > Custody Battle email in > > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son, > > but after the counselor > > told me that was an okay thing to do from time to > > time, I do believe I am > > going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't > > working... Only thing, > > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him > > have it.... > > > > Machelle > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 My therapist told me much the same thing. Although this being in hindsight. He suggested that people with ADD may be subconciously trying to medicate themselves and untreated ADD patients had a greater likelihood of having trouble with substance abuse. Attention deficit is a misleading idea. There is a good book out there " driven to distraction " . The thing is that too much outside stimulus is being taken in becoming overwhelming and making it hard to focus on the thing you want to focus on. -dz- --- <ralexan@...> wrote: > Hi Machelle > > I just saw a show on tv about Ritalin this week. I > heard that children that > are on Ritalin are about 80% less likely to abuse > drugs in their teens than > children who are not. This was a statement from the > drug company so I don't > really know about the validity of it. > > > Re: [ ] The Bad Guy > > > > > > I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It > was > > undetected then and I just went through school > trying > > to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my > > teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble > with > > authority figures and they all thought that I was > not > > working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I > am > > on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you > hate > > the idea of having to put a kid on meds that > young, > > just some food for thought. I wish I had been > treated > > earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I > got > > my GED later and just got my associates degree at > 46 > > years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I > > know I was watching my son very closely through > his > > earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent > by > > 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it. > > -dz- > > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote: > > > I just don't know how much of this my nerves > will > > > take...Already it looks > > > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not > only > > > are his grades horrible, > > > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is > > > always sending me little > > > notes telling me the same thing over and over. > She > > > seems to think he needs > > > to be put on medicine and has preached to me > about > > > it several times. The > > > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a > > > behavior problem. So it's > > > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I > am > > > keeping from his father. > > > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see > original > > > Custody Battle email in > > > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my > son, > > > but after the counselor > > > told me that was an okay thing to do from time > to > > > time, I do believe I am > > > going to start doing that. Restrictions just > aren't > > > working... Only thing, > > > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let > him > > > have it.... > > > > > > Machelle > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 I would say this is true. So many times if there are things like this eventually the attmept comes to self medicate and that is with alcohol and drugs and abuse of those things. Just some food for thought Re: [ ] The Bad Guy>>> I suffered from ADHD as a child (I still do). It was> undetected then and I just went through school trying> to get through. I was usually in trouble, and my> teachers tended to dislike me also. I had trouble with> authority figures and they all thought that I was not> working up to my potential. Little knowing why. I am> on medication for it now. (ritalin) I know you hate> the idea of having to put a kid on meds that young,> just some food for thought. I wish I had been treated> earlier. I ended up dropping out of high school. I got> my GED later and just got my associates degree at 46> years old... Good luck, lots of tough decisions. I> know I was watching my son very closely through his> earlier years, they say ADHD will become apparent by> 8-10 years old. He seems unaffected by it.> -dz-> --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:> > I just don't know how much of this my nerves will> > take...Already it looks> > like he will be repeating the 2nd grade. Not only> > are his grades horrible,> > his teacher seems to really dislike him. She is> > always sending me little> > notes telling me the same thing over and over. She> > seems to think he needs> > to be put on medicine and has preached to me about> > it several times. The> > doctor I took him to, seems to think it's just a> > behavior problem. So it's> > damn if I do, damn if I don't. And all of this I am> > keeping from his father.> > Don't need more fuel for the fire...(see original> > Custody Battle email in> > archives) One thing I don't do is spank my son,> > but after the counselor> > told me that was an okay thing to do from time to> > time, I do believe I am> > going to start doing that. Restrictions just aren't> > working... Only thing,> > I'm scared that when I do it, I'll really let him> > have it....> >> > Machelle> >>>> __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Growing up in the rual midwest, I heard of several stories about farmers losing a cow & bull, When some city person was hunting & misstake the poor farmer's cow or bull For a Dear. I even heard a story on one farmer white washing COW on each side of his cow and some city person would still shoot the poor farmers cow. Terry --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > know what you mean Terry--every year up here there > are several supposed > 'hunting accidents' Luckily - we don't hunt anymore > (Ken & I)!!! Seems like > it's always somebody's relative accidently shooting > another relation....Where > used to live (we had horses & during hunting season > we'd have to put red or > orange blankets on our horses to keep them for being > mistaken for deer or > Elk We ran off quite a few hunters? from shooting > into our property or on > our property.....They never seem to read the signs > you post!! @ that time we > lived @ the near the end of a logging road-it > actually went thru to several > other logging roads & we had a lot of problems with > city hunters & local > poachers Finally we got Tree farm manager to put up > a huge gate- they gave > us the key for this gate- as we used to get our > firewood on the property > arlene > > Terry Long wrote: > > > Arlene I know that reloads are cheeper. But > these > > jerks that are around that you would love to rid > the > > world of. Are not even worth the cost of a reload. > > I remmber a coulple of story's my bother inlaw > told > > me. Susy's ex went out to the other Brother's > " JIM " > > farm Bill was there " after she finaly left the > jerk > > but befor the DIVORICE " asked them to take him > > hunting " they both knew that the ex used Susy > " Baby > > sister " as aunching bag. Bill was all for taking > the > > jerk hunting but Jim talked him out of it say > there > > was no way they could convence a cort that it was > > axcendtal A couple of years later Bill was driving > his > > truck pulling a horse traller & saw mim hitch > hiking, > > Bill said it was tempting to whip the traller > around > > so that it would hit him then thought better of > it. > > Terry > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > > bullets ain't that expensive when you can reload > > > them yourself...we have a > > > relative who does just this...we just save the > > > casings......Those 9mm bullets > > > can get very costly!! > > > arlene > > > > > > Terry Long wrote: > > > > > > > Arlene I feel the same way. Another thing I > > > keep > > > > telling myself they arn't worth the cost of > the > > > builit > > > > to get rid of them. > > > > Terry > > > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > > > > Ken & I have T-shirts with the motto: the > only > > > > > reason SOME people are still > > > > > alive is because it's against the law to > kill > > > them! > > > > > > > > > > Sharon Zeis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Aww Machelle, the bad news is it's going > to > > > get > > > > > > worse. The good news is your not alone. My > > > > > daughter is > > > > > > stubborn, defiant and sometimes a plain > bitch, > > > but > > > > > > she's a good kid. She's almost 14 and been > > > quite a > > > > > > handful all her life,but she's always > there > > > for me > > > > > > when I need her. She even called me an > asshole > > > > > about a > > > > > > year ago. She's still alive because I ran > out > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > house and calmed down before I grounded > her. I > > > > > have > > > > > > her and custody of 4 step kids. It seems > like > > > > > there is > > > > > > always at least one who is trying to > figure > > > out > > > > > how to > > > > > > get out of schoolwork. Last year it was my > > > > > daughter. > > > > > > This year it's my 14 year old stepson. I > spend > > > a > > > > > lot > > > > > > of time in consultation with teachers. I > > > fought my > > > > > > daughter until this year. She has finally > > > realized > > > > > > it's easier to do thw work and pull the > grades > > > > > than to > > > > > > put up with my shit. Luckily with > I > > > turn > > > > > him > > > > > > over to his dad if he won't listen to me. > In > > > fact > > > > > my > > > > > > border collie/shepherd mix hides behind me > > > > > whenever > > > > > > and Greg get started on Algebra. > Greg > > > is > > > > > one > > > > > > of the calmest, most rational people I've > met, > > > but > > > > > > that dog knows algebra is bad news. > > > > cries > > > > > > easily and I think that upsets the dog. It > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > upsets me too. But instead of running and > > > hiding, > > > > > I'd > > > > > > like to tell him to snap out of it. > > > > > > Anyway, my college kid still blames his > poor > > > > > grades > > > > > > on someone else. (his roommate,professor > > > anyone > > > > > but > > > > > > himself) > > > > > > Try to remind yourself, this too shall > pass. > > > I've > > > > > > also learned how to say how it's going to > be > > > and > > > > > walk > > > > > > away. I used to let my daughter draw me > into > > > the > > > > > worst > > > > > > arguments. My husband taught me that I > don't > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > validate myself, I can just make the rules > > > without > > > > > > having to explain why. You will get > through > > > this > > > > > time > > > > > > and remember you will be one of these > parents > > > who > > > > > will > > > > > > die for their child when they're 30. (If > you > > > let > > > > > him > > > > > > live that long. lol) > > > > > > Good luck and I know where you're coming > from > > > but > > > > > you > > > > > > can't shoot him. It's against the law and > > > you'll > > > > > be > > > > > > sorry later. > > > > > > Sharon > > > > > > --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > So how are yall today? I'm kinda tired > > > > > > > today...worked too hard yesterday I > > > > > > > guess. But I did get everything I wanted > to > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2002 Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 Bring it on down Terry..I sure could about now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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