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I don't know or remember who told you to take the Indolplex/DIM with a lab as

low as 26 yet Estradiol changes fast and 6 months ago does not tell you what

your Estraidol was when you started the DIM.

Are you on TRT if not I advise you to stop the DIM for a week and retest your

Estradiol not Estrogen.

If you tested Estrogen it was the wrong test in men the bad guy is Estradiol E2.

Tell me more can you get it up at all. Are you on Testosterone meds.

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> From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> Subject: Indolex Dim Question

>

> Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:45 PM

> Hello

> I wrote the group about three weeks ago about my lack of

> morning erections.  Someone suggested I take one

> indoplex dim pill a day. I have been doing this for about

> two weeks and the morning erections have not come back yet.

> Is there a length of time expected while on the indoplex

> /dim for the morning erections to come back.  My last

> estrogen test about six months ago was around 26 with 35

> being the high.

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I was on testosterone for about a year and a half. I got off when I found out it

will make you sterile.

I can get it up, however I do not wake with a erection. Am I over reacting?

>

> > From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> > Subject: Indolex Dim Question

> >

> > Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:45 PM

> > Hello

> > I wrote the group about three weeks ago about my lack of

> > morning erections.  Someone suggested I take one

> > indoplex dim pill a day. I have been doing this for about

> > two weeks and the morning erections have not come back yet.

> > Is there a length of time expected while on the indoplex

> > /dim for the morning erections to come back.  My last

> > estrogen test about six months ago was around 26 with 35

> > being the high.

> >

> >

> >

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here are my labs on 10//1/2010

Estradiol 26 8.0-35

Test 464 350-1030

Free Test 56 52 -280

FSH & LH

LH 4.4 1.7-8.6

FSH 2.1 1.5-12.4

This was done with me off of trt for about 6 months.

>

> > From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> > Subject: Indolex Dim Question

> >

> > Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:45 PM

> > Hello

> > I wrote the group about three weeks ago about my lack of

> > morning erections.  Someone suggested I take one

> > indoplex dim pill a day. I have been doing this for about

> > two weeks and the morning erections have not come back yet.

> > Is there a length of time expected while on the indoplex

> > /dim for the morning erections to come back.  My last

> > estrogen test about six months ago was around 26 with 35

> > being the high.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

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> >

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Most men that can get it up but don't have night time and morning wood. That

are younger still can have a high E2 problem.

I tell all men going on TRT that are younger to test there sperm first and if

it's good have some frozen for a back up. Yes you can have a hard time making a

baby on TRT but most men that have this problem did not have good sperm from the

get go.

I know men that are on TRT thinking they can't make a baby and end up with one

and they did not want more kids.

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> From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> Subject: Re: Indolex Dim Question

>

> Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 11:38 AM

> I was on testosterone for about a

> year and a half. I got off when I found out it will make you

> sterile.

> I can get it up, however I do not wake with a erection. Am

> I over reacting?

>

>

> >

> > > From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> > > Subject: Indolex Dim Question

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:45 PM

> > > Hello

> > > I wrote the group about three weeks ago about my

> lack of

> > > morning erections.  Someone suggested I take

> one

> > > indoplex dim pill a day. I have been doing this

> for about

> > > two weeks and the morning erections have not come

> back yet.

> > > Is there a length of time expected while on the

> indoplex

> > > /dim for the morning erections to come back.  My

> last

> > > estrogen test about six months ago was around 26

> with 35

> > > being the high.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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I am confused about something

You wrote " Most men that can get it up but don't have night time and morning

wood. That are younger still can have a high E2 problem. "

Do you mean that most men that can get it up but do not have night time and

morning wood are younger men that can have a E2 problem?

> > >

> > > > From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@>

> > > > Subject: Indolex Dim Question

> > > >

> > > > Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:45 PM

> > > > Hello

> > > > I wrote the group about three weeks ago about my

> > lack of

> > > > morning erections.  Someone suggested I take

> > one

> > > > indoplex dim pill a day. I have been doing this

> > for about

> > > > two weeks and the morning erections have not come

> > back yet.

> > > > Is there a length of time expected while on the

> > indoplex

> > > > /dim for the morning erections to come back.  My

> > last

> > > > estrogen test about six months ago was around 26

> > with 35

> > > > being the high.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

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I am not up on your Estraidol labs is this in pg/ml units and the range I never

seen one like this but still you can be low on Estraidol off TRT 6 months you

need to redo your Estraidol labs if you can do Quest Labs in the USA do the

Estraidol Sensitive test #4021.

Your Free T is very low and your LH and FSH are low if your Estradiol test is

high at 26 mid range is 21.5 my range for Estradiol is 13 to 54 pg/ml best

levels with this range is 20 so you look high. Getting this down your Free T

should come up.

But your saying on Indolplex/DIM your not seeing night time and morning wood but

you can get it up so I feel your still high when you go to low you can't get it

up taking Viagra. Try the DIM in the morning with food and dinner time.

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> From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> Subject: Re: Indolex Dim Question

>

> Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 11:49 AM

> here are my labs on 10//1/2010

>

> Estradiol 26   8.0-35

> Test      464  350-1030

> Free Test 56   52 -280

> FSH & LH

> LH        4.4   1.7-8.6

> FSH   

>    2.1   1.5-12.4

>

> This was done with me off of trt for about 6 months.

>

>

> >

> > > From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> > > Subject: Indolex Dim Question

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:45 PM

> > > Hello

> > > I wrote the group about three weeks ago about my

> lack of

> > > morning erections.  Someone suggested I take

> one

> > > indoplex dim pill a day. I have been doing this

> for about

> > > two weeks and the morning erections have not come

> back yet.

> > > Is there a length of time expected while on the

> indoplex

> > > /dim for the morning erections to come back.  My

> last

> > > estrogen test about six months ago was around 26

> with 35

> > > being the high.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Yes like me word it diff. Younger men can have high levels of Estraidol and get

it up for sex but don't have night time and morning wood. To tell get some

stamps on a roll put them around your penis before bed if you have wood in your

sleep the stamps will break apart. If not your not having night time and

morning wood and this can be due to high Estradiol levels.

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Phil

> From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> Subject: Re: Indolex Dim Question

>

> Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 12:30 PM

> I am confused about something

>

> You wrote " Most men that can get it up but don't have night

> time and morning wood.  That are younger still can have

> a high E2 problem. "

>

> Do you mean that most men that can get it up but do not

> have night time and morning wood are younger men that can

> have a E2 problem?

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@>

> > > > > Subject: Indolex Dim

> Question

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:45 PM

> > > > > Hello

> > > > > I wrote the group about three weeks ago

> about my

> > > lack of

> > > > > morning erections.  Someone suggested

> I take

> > > one

> > > > > indoplex dim pill a day. I have been

> doing this

> > > for about

> > > > > two weeks and the morning erections

> have not come

> > > back yet.

> > > > > Is there a length of time expected

> while on the

> > > indoplex

> > > > > /dim for the morning erections to come

> back.  My

> > > last

> > > > > estrogen test about six months ago was

> around 26

> > > with 35

> > > > > being the high.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Ok, if I determine I have have high estradiol levels from bloodwork, what can I

do about it.?

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@>

> > > > > > Subject: Indolex Dim

> > Question

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 4:45 PM

> > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > I wrote the group about three weeks ago

> > about my

> > > > lack of

> > > > > > morning erections.  Someone suggested

> > I take

> > > > one

> > > > > > indoplex dim pill a day. I have been

> > doing this

> > > > for about

> > > > > > two weeks and the morning erections

> > have not come

> > > > back yet.

> > > > > > Is there a length of time expected

> > while on the

> > > > indoplex

> > > > > > /dim for the morning erections to come

> > back.  My

> > > > last

> > > > > > estrogen test about six months ago was

> > around 26

> > > > with 35

> > > > > > being the high.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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If your not on TRT or taking Testosteone meds Indolplex/DIM will work fine even

on T meds it works and it's a supplement. If you can get your Dr. to treat it

Arimidex works great but you need labs to know how high you are. Say your

Estradiol labs show your above 50 pg/ml then you would do .5 mgs of Arimidex one

half of the one mg. pill every other day. If your less then 50 pg/ml but over

30 then you would do .25 mgs 1/4 of the Arimidex pill every other day.

read this about using Arimidex.

====================================================

How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

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> From: DWILLI <dwwilli211@...>

> Subject: Re: Indolex Dim Question

>

> Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 2:59 PM

> Ok, if I determine I have have high

> estradiol levels from bloodwork, what can I do about it.?

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: DWILLI

> <dwwilli211@>

> > > > > > > Subject:

> Indolex Dim

> > > Question

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date: Saturday, April 9,

> 2011, 4:45 PM

> > > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > > I wrote the group about three

> weeks ago

> > > about my

> > > > > lack of

> > > > > > > morning erections.  Someone

> suggested

> > > I take

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > indoplex dim pill a day. I

> have been

> > > doing this

> > > > > for about

> > > > > > > two weeks and the morning

> erections

> > > have not come

> > > > > back yet.

> > > > > > > Is there a length of time

> expected

> > > while on the

> > > > > indoplex

> > > > > > > /dim for the morning

> erections to come

> > > back.  My

> > > > > last

> > > > > > > estrogen test about six

> months ago was

> > > around 26

> > > > > with 35

> > > > > > > being the high.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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