Re: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

March 14, 2011

No just good for the thigh you need a bigger needle for glute 25g 1ml x 1 " lg.

minim.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 4:28 PM

> Are the needles you use large enough

> for glute?

>

> >

> > > From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> > > Subject: Help with understanding

> injecting myself

> > >

> > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > Hi guys,

> > >

> > > Phil sent me a link to spotinjections.com before

> and it was

> > > helpful.

> > >

> > > Could you direct me on what I need to do to

> inject 120mg's

> > > of test cyp one time and then 60 mg a week there

> after? I'm

> > > confused about the measuring and terminology off

> it all.

> > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > >

> > > I think Dr. Jon said that his guys do good with

> 1CC

> > > syringes but it appears those are for only small

> insulin

> > > needles.

> > >

> > > Do I get one syringe and get needle replacements

> or do I

> > > get syringes with needles and only use the whole

> thing

> > > once.

> > >

> > > I will be alternating glutes and then to the

> thigh for test

> > > cyp.

> > >

> > > Should I get different gauge sizes for glutes and

> thighs

> > > like spotinjections says?

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

March 14, 2011

My doctor prescribes 3mL 23gX1 syringes. I draw the T into that, and then

changed the needle to a 25gX1 for the injection. I have been doing it every

three days on the same side glute for quite a while now with no problems. I

buy my 25gX1 needles online from one of the many sources.

I have also used insulin syringes in my shoulder. Those might be a bit short

to get intramuscular into the glute. Although, some on here recommend sub Q

as being equally effective.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>wrote:

>

> Ok. Thanks

>

> I was going to get 23 gauge 1.5 inch from spotinjections.comrecommendations

but I will go with a smaller needle 25 gauge so I don't have

> to buy 2 different sizes for the glute and thigh. Is using 25 gauge for the

> thigh ok?

>

> From spotinjections.com website.

>

> *What size needle do I need?

>

> The smaller the gauge the larger the needle.

>

> 22 or 23 Gauge, 1.5 Inch is ideal for injections into the glutes.

>

> 25 Gauge, 1.0 inch is ideal for injections into the quads and can be used

> for all spot injections.

>

> 25 Gauge, 5/8 inch is often used for tricep/bicep/delts

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > Subject: Help with understanding

> > > injecting myself

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > >

> > > > > Phil sent me a link to spotinjections.com before

> > > and it was

> > > > > helpful.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could you direct me on what I need to do to

> > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > of test cyp one time and then 60 mg a week there

> > > after? I'm

> > > > > confused about the measuring and terminology off

> > > it all.

> > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > > > >

> > > > > I think Dr. Jon said that his guys do good with

> > > 1CC

> > > > > syringes but it appears those are for only small

> > > insulin

> > > > > needles.

> > > > >

> > > > > Do I get one syringe and get needle replacements

> > > or do I

> > > > > get syringes with needles and only use the whole

> > > thing

> > > > > once.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will be alternating glutes and then to the

> > > thigh for test

> > > > > cyp.

> > > > >

> > > > > Should I get different gauge sizes for glutes and

> > > thighs

> > > > > like spotinjections says?

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

March 14, 2011

I find that thigh injections are painful. No pain in my butt. I guess you

just have to experiment to see what works best for you.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Spanky <spankysd@...> wrote:

> My doctor prescribes 3mL 23gX1 syringes. I draw the T into that, and then

> changed the needle to a 25gX1 for the injection. I have been doing it every

> three days on the same side glute for quite a while now with no problems. I

> buy my 25gX1 needles online from one of the many sources.

>

> I have also used insulin syringes in my shoulder. Those might be a bit

> short to get intramuscular into the glute. Although, some on here recommend

> sub Q as being equally effective.

>

> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>wrote:

>

>>

>> Ok. Thanks

>>

>> I was going to get 23 gauge 1.5 inch from spotinjections.comrecommendations

but I will go with a smaller needle 25 gauge so I don't have

>> to buy 2 different sizes for the glute and thigh. Is using 25 gauge for the

>> thigh ok?

>>

>> From spotinjections.com website.

>>

>> *What size needle do I need?

>>

>> The smaller the gauge the larger the needle.

>>

>> 22 or 23 Gauge, 1.5 Inch is ideal for injections into the glutes.

>>

>> 25 Gauge, 1.0 inch is ideal for injections into the quads and can be used

>> for all spot injections.

>>

>> 25 Gauge, 5/8 inch is often used for tricep/bicep/delts

>>

>> > > >

>> > > > > From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@>

>> > > > > Subject: Help with understanding

>> > > injecting myself

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

>> > > > > Hi guys,

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Phil sent me a link to spotinjections.com before

>> > > and it was

>> > > > > helpful.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Could you direct me on what I need to do to

>> > > inject 120mg's

>> > > > > of test cyp one time and then 60 mg a week there

>> > > after? I'm

>> > > > > confused about the measuring and terminology off

>> > > it all.

>> > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

>> > > > >

>> > > > > I think Dr. Jon said that his guys do good with

>> > > 1CC

>> > > > > syringes but it appears those are for only small

>> > > insulin

>> > > > > needles.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Do I get one syringe and get needle replacements

>> > > or do I

>> > > > > get syringes with needles and only use the whole

>> > > thing

>> > > > > once.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > I will be alternating glutes and then to the

>> > > thigh for test

>> > > > > cyp.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Should I get different gauge sizes for glutes and

>> > > thighs

>> > > > > like spotinjections says?

>> > > > >

>> > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > >

March 14, 2011

Yes a lot of guys use this bigger size.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 4:45 PM

> Ok. Thanks

>

> I was going to get 23 gauge 1.5 inch from

> spotinjections.com recommendations but I will go with a

> smaller needle 25 gauge so I don't have to buy 2 different

> sizes for the glute and thigh. Is using 25 gauge for the

> thigh ok?

>

> From spotinjections.com website.

>

> *What size needle do I need?

>

> The smaller the gauge the larger the needle.

>

> 22 or 23 Gauge, 1.5 Inch is ideal for injections into the

> glutes.

>

> 25 Gauge, 1.0 inch is ideal for injections into the quads

> and can be used for all spot injections.

>

> 25 Gauge, 5/8 inch is often used for tricep/bicep/delts

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: Charlie Sheets

> <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > Subject: Help with

> understanding

> > > injecting myself

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > >

> > > > > Phil sent me a link to

> spotinjections.com before

> > > and it was

> > > > > helpful.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could you direct me on what I need to

> do to

> > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > of test cyp one time and then 60 mg a

> week there

> > > after? I'm

> > > > > confused about the measuring and

> terminology off

> > > it all.

> > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > > > >

> > > > > I think Dr. Jon said that his guys do

> good with

> > > 1CC

> > > > > syringes but it appears those are for

> only small

> > > insulin

> > > > > needles.

> > > > >

> > > > > Do I get one syringe and get needle

> replacements

> > > or do I

> > > > > get syringes with needles and only use

> the whole

> > > thing

> > > > > once.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will be alternating glutes and then

> to the

> > > thigh for test

> > > > > cyp.

> > > > >

> > > > > Should I get different gauge sizes for

> glutes and

> > > thighs

> > > > > like spotinjections says?

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

March 14, 2011

Some guys prefer to do it in the morning. I have heard that it can interfere

with sleep. I have never had that problem though. If you don't know yet, you

might wait until morning.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Barb <baba@...> wrote:

>

> I give DH his butt injections after dinner, after work every 5 days. He

> uses a 1 ml, 25g, 1 " needle. You need the product # to have your pharmacy

> order it. We were using 3 ml syringes before, this is SO much better!

>

> http://catalog.bd.com/bdCat/viewProduct.doCustomer?productNumber=329622

>

> Barb

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From: Charlie Sheets

> > > > <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > Subject: Help with

> > > > understanding

> > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Phil sent me a link to

> > > > spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Could you direct me on what I need to

> > > > do to

> > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > of test cyp one time and then 60 mg a

> > > > week there

> > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > confused about the measuring and

> > > > terminology off

> > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think Dr. Jon said that his guys do

> > > > good with

> > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > syringes but it appears those are for

> > > > only small

> > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do I get one syringe and get needle

> > > > replacements

> > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > get syringes with needles and only use

> > > > the whole

> > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will be alternating glutes and then

> > > > to the

> > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Should I get different gauge sizes for

> > > > glutes and

> > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > like spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

March 14, 2011

Applying Androgel/testim in the evening may cause problems with sleeping for

some people (it did for me when I first started, but after a while, it

didn't bother me anymore), but I have never had a problem with shots at any

time of the day. The shots typically take 24-72 hours before they start to

take effect anyway, so it doesn't really matter when you do the shot.

However, for your first shot, I would do it at least an hour before going to

sleep just to make sure that you are not going to have some sort of

unexpected allergic reaction.

Help with

> > > > understanding

> > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Phil sent me a link to

> > > > spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Could you direct me on what I need to

> > > > do to

> > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > of test cyp one time and then 60 mg a

> > > > week there

> > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > confused about the measuring and

> > > > terminology off

> > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think Dr. Jon said that his guys do

> > > > good with

> > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > syringes but it appears those are for

> > > > only small

> > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do I get one syringe and get needle

> > > > replacements

> > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > get syringes with needles and only use

> > > > the whole

> > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will be alternating glutes and then

> > > > to the

> > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Should I get different gauge sizes for

> > > > glutes and

> > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > like spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

March 14, 2011

Hi Charlie,

You definitely store your HCG in the fridge. You definitely do NOT store

your Testosterone in the fridge.

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Charlie Sheets

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

Thanks for all the feedback.

I'm reading some really informative stuff on the following website.

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?117-hormone-modulation-thera

py-101

My question is do you all store your test cyp in the fridge like this guy

suggests? There were instructions to store my hcg in the fridge, but nothing

for the test.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From: Charlie Sheets

> > > > > <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > Subject: Help with

> > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > > >

<mailto: %40>

> > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Phil sent me a link to

> > > > > spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Could you direct me on what I need to

> > > > > do to

> > > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > of test cyp one time and then 60 mg a

> > > > > week there

> > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > confused about the measuring and

> > > > > terminology off

> > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think Dr. Jon said that his guys do

> > > > > good with

> > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > syringes but it appears those are for

> > > > > only small

> > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Do I get one syringe and get needle

> > > > > replacements

> > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > get syringes with needles and only use

> > > > > the whole

> > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will be alternating glutes and then

> > > > > to the

> > > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Should I get different gauge sizes for

> > > > > glutes and

> > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > like spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > >

March 15, 2011

Hi Charlie,

I guess I don't understand why Chilln would say that either. Chilln is very

good and I have learned a lot from his posts, but I disagree with storing

Testosterone Cypionate in the refrigerator. When Test C is cold, it can

form crystals (I had a whole bottle crystallize once and even after rolling

it in my hands and letting it sit at room temperature, the crystals did not

go away - my pharmacist told me to exchange the bottle). Also, when Test C

is cold, it is more difficult to withdraw from the bottle and more difficult

to inject. I would be interested to see if there was a reason that Chilln

made that statement or if it was simply an oversight.

As long as there are no visible crystals in the bottle, I am sure you did no

damage.

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Charlie Sheets

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

I don't know why that person I linked below would say to store my test in

the fridge when several websites say:

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE STORAGE:

Store at room temperature between 59 and 86 degrees F (15 to 30 degrees C)

away from heat, light and moisture as directed. Do not store in the

bathroom. The vial may be warmed by rolling it in your hands to dissolve

crystals if they form

I stored it in the fridge for about 2 hours. I took it out but hope I didnt

do any to jeopordize the potency of it.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > From: Charlie Sheets

> > > > > > > <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Help with

> > > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > > > > >

<mailto: %40>

> > <mailto: %40>

> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Phil sent me a link to

> > > > > > > spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Could you direct me on what I need to

> > > > > > > do to

> > > > > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > > > of test cyp one time and then 60 mg a

> > > > > > > week there

> > > > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > > > confused about the measuring and

> > > > > > > terminology off

> > > > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I think Dr. Jon said that his guys do

> > > > > > > good with

> > > > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > > > syringes but it appears those are for

> > > > > > > only small

> > > > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do I get one syringe and get needle

> > > > > > > replacements

> > > > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > > > get syringes with needles and only use

> > > > > > > the whole

> > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will be alternating glutes and then

> > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Should I get different gauge sizes for

> > > > > > > glutes and

> > > > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > > > like spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > > >

March 15, 2011

I would not do this sorry I am so late replying it might keep you up all night.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 8:12 PM

> So I just went to the pharmacy to get

> a syringe and needle to take my first test cyp injection

> ever.

>

> It's 8pm right now. Is it too late in the night to take it

> or does it not really matter?

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: Charlie Sheets

> > > <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > Subject: Help

> with

> > > understanding

> > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011,

> 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Phil sent me a link to

> > > spotinjections.com before

> > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could you direct me on what I

> need to

> > > do to

> > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > of test cyp one time and then

> 60 mg a

> > > week there

> > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > confused about the measuring

> and

> > > terminology off

> > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think Dr. Jon said that his

> guys do

> > > good with

> > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > syringes but it appears those

> are for

> > > only small

> > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do I get one syringe and get

> needle

> > > replacements

> > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > get syringes with needles and

> only use

> > > the whole

> > > > > thing

> > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will be alternating glutes

> and then

> > > to the

> > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Should I get different gauge

> sizes for

> > > glutes and

> > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > like spotinjections says?

> > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

March 15, 2011

Are you sure he said he keeps his Test C in the fridge I don't think so it will

crystallize on you and you will need to heat it up to get it liquid again. Yes

keep Growth Hormones and HCG in the fridge but not your Test C for shots.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:51 PM

> Thanks for all the feedback.

>

> I'm reading some really informative stuff on the following

> website.

>

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?117-hormone-modulation-therapy-1\

01

>

> My question is do you all store your test cyp in the fridge

> like this guy suggests? There were instructions to store my

> hcg in the fridge, but nothing for the test.

>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > From: Charlie

> Sheets

> > > > > > <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > > Subject:

> Help with

> > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Date: Monday,

> March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Phil sent me a

> link to

> > > > > > spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Could you

> direct me on what I need to

> > > > > > do to

> > > > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > > of test cyp

> one time and then 60 mg a

> > > > > > week there

> > > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > > confused about

> the measuring and

> > > > > > terminology off

> > > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > > (CC, mg, ml,

> IU)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I think Dr.

> Jon said that his guys do

> > > > > > good with

> > > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > > syringes but

> it appears those are for

> > > > > > only small

> > > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Do I get one

> syringe and get needle

> > > > > > replacements

> > > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > > get syringes

> with needles and only use

> > > > > > the whole

> > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will be

> alternating glutes and then

> > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Should I get

> different gauge sizes for

> > > > > > glutes and

> > > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > > like

> spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > >

> Links

> > > > > > > > > >

> -fullfeatured

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

March 15, 2011

Chilln is smart a great guy but with this I don't agree I have been doing shots

for many yrs. never kept Test C or anykind of Test shot in the fridge.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:04 AM

> Thanks for the replay . Are you

> sure I don't store test in the fridge? This person appears

> to be an expert based on overall knowledge of the subject

> and complexity of speech.

>

> Please See Below:

>

> http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?119-testosterone-boost-101

>

> TESTOSTERONE INJECTIONS - STORAGE

>

> Store your testosterone ester (eg: T cyp = testosterone

> cypionate) in the fridge at all times.

> You can freeze testosterone, but it's not going to add any

> value.

>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > From:

> Charlie Sheets

> > > > > > > <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > > > Subject:

> Help with

> > > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > <mailto: %40>

> > > > > > > > > > > Date:

> Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Phil sent

> me a link to

> > > > > > > spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Could you

> direct me on what I need to

> > > > > > > do to

> > > > > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > > > of test

> cyp one time and then 60 mg a

> > > > > > > week there

> > > > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > > > confused

> about the measuring and

> > > > > > > terminology off

> > > > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > > > (CC, mg,

> ml, IU)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I think

> Dr. Jon said that his guys do

> > > > > > > good with

> > > > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > > > syringes

> but it appears those are for

> > > > > > > only small

> > > > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do I get

> one syringe and get needle

> > > > > > > replacements

> > > > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > > > get

> syringes with needles and only use

> > > > > > > the whole

> > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will be

> alternating glutes and then

> > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Should I

> get different gauge sizes for

> > > > > > > glutes and

> > > > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > > > like

> spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > > >

> Groups Links

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured

> >

> <mailto: -fullfeatured%40>

>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > >

> Links

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured

> >

> <mailto: -fullfeatured%40>

>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

March 15, 2011

It will not go bad but it can cristilize on you and it's thick enough as it is

very hard to get out of the vial.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:06 AM

> I don't know why that person I linked

> below would say to store my test in the fridge when several

> websites say:

>

> TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE STORAGE:

> Store at room temperature between 59 and 86 degrees F (15

> to 30 degrees C) away from heat, light and moisture as

> directed. Do not store in the bathroom. The vial may be

> warmed by rolling it in your hands to dissolve crystals if

> they form

>

> I stored it in the fridge for about 2 hours. I took it out

> but hope I didnt do any to jeopordize the potency of it.

>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> From: Charlie Sheets

> > > > > > > > <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Subject: Help with

> > > > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > > > injecting

> myself

> > > > > > > > > > > > To:

>

> > > <mailto: %40>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi

> guys,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Phil

> sent me a link to

> > > > > > > > spotinjections.com

> before

> > > > > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Could you direct me on what I need to

> > > > > > > > do to

> > > > > > > > > > inject

> 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> test cyp one time and then 60 mg a

> > > > > > > > week there

> > > > > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> confused about the measuring and

> > > > > > > > terminology off

> > > > > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > > > > (CC,

> mg, ml, IU)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> think Dr. Jon said that his guys do

> > > > > > > > good with

> > > > > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> syringes but it appears those are for

> > > > > > > > only small

> > > > > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> needles.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Do I

> get one syringe and get needle

> > > > > > > > replacements

> > > > > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > > > > get

> syringes with needles and only use

> > > > > > > > the whole

> > > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> once.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> will be alternating glutes and then

> > > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > > thigh for

> test

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> cyp.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> Should I get different gauge sizes for

> > > > > > > > glutes and

> > > > > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > > > > like

> spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

March 15, 2011

Test C has a long shelf life at room temperature. If you read the

manufacturer's recommendation for most injectible TRT products, it is

recommended to heat it up in your hand if it is viscous from a cool

temperature. There is no reason to refrigerate it.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:11 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

> It will not go bad but it can cristilize on you and it's thick enough as it

> is very hard to get out of the vial.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

> > From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

>

> > Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:06 AM

>

> > I don't know why that person I linked

> > below would say to store my test in the fridge when several

> > websites say:

> >

> > TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE STORAGE:

> > Store at room temperature between 59 and 86 degrees F (15

> > to 30 degrees C) away from heat, light and moisture as

> > directed. Do not store in the bathroom. The vial may be

> > warmed by rolling it in your hands to dissolve crystals if

> > they form

> >

> > I stored it in the fridge for about 2 hours. I took it out

> > but hope I didnt do any to jeopordize the potency of it.

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > From: Charlie Sheets

> > > > > > > > > <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > Subject: Help with

> > > > > > > > > understanding

> > > > > > > > > > > injecting

> > myself

> > > > > > > > > > > > > To:

> >

> > > > <mailto: %40>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi

> > guys,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil

> > sent me a link to

> > > > > > > > > spotinjections.com

> > before

> > > > > > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > Could you direct me on what I need to

> > > > > > > > > do to

> > > > > > > > > > > inject

> > 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > test cyp one time and then 60 mg a

> > > > > > > > > week there

> > > > > > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > confused about the measuring and

> > > > > > > > > terminology off

> > > > > > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (CC,

> > mg, ml, IU)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > think Dr. Jon said that his guys do

> > > > > > > > > good with

> > > > > > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > syringes but it appears those are for

> > > > > > > > > only small

> > > > > > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > needles.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I

> > get one syringe and get needle

> > > > > > > > > replacements

> > > > > > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > get

> > syringes with needles and only use

> > > > > > > > > the whole

> > > > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > once.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > will be alternating glutes and then

> > > > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > > > thigh for

> > test

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > cyp.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > Should I get different gauge sizes for

> > > > > > > > > glutes and

> > > > > > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > like

> > spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

March 16, 2011

I take my used needs in a sharps container to my Dr.'s office they throw them

out for me.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: A lan <mills47460@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 6:51 PM

> When I was on injections - for 35

> years, if I had to do it myself, I would roll over on my

> side, and inject as far back as possible in my right butt

> cheek. When I had someone else do it, I usually stood and

> they did it. Alternating cheeks from one time to the next.

>

> Yes - do purchase disposable syringes. Get as large a

> needle as you can stand. I used a 23 guage, and 1 5/8 "

> long. Use once, and place in a container to dispose

> of. Today's rules say you are to state that it

> contains " sharps. "

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From: Charlie

> Sheets <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > Subject:

> Help with understanding

> > > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, March

> 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Phil sent me a link

> to spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Could you direct me

> on what I need to do to

> > > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > of test cyp one

> time and then 60 mg a week there

> > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > confused about the

> measuring and terminology off

> > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > (CC, mg, ml, IU)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think Dr. Jon

> said that his guys do good with

> > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > syringes but it

> appears those are for only small

> > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Do I get one

> syringe and get needle replacements

> > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > get syringes with

> needles and only use the whole

> > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will be

> alternating glutes and then to the

> > > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Should I get

> different gauge sizes for glutes and

> > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > like spotinjections

> says?

> > > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > >

> Links

> > > > > > > > >

> -fullfeatured

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

March 16, 2011

I have been doing shots for yrs there is no advantage to using a larger needle

other then it loads faster. Even Dr. Shippen now uses a very small Insulin

needle to do his shots. He now dose shots of Depo T every 3 days and shoots

subQ half the shot on one side then the other half on the other side in the same

day every 3 days.

If you like pain use a bigger needle.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 8:59 PM

> Thanks for taking the time to

> respond. Can you tell what the advantage of using a larger

> needle is?

>

> I just got back from the gym. 30 minutes of resistance

> training. 20 minutes of interval cardio and 30 minutes yoga.

> It really helped take the edge off and has given me a sense

> of calm that I don't get often.

>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > From: Charlie

> Sheets <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > > Subject:

> Help with understanding

> > > > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Date: Monday,

> March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Phil sent me a

> link to spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Could you

> direct me on what I need to do to

> > > > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > > of test cyp

> one time and then 60 mg a week there

> > > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > > confused about

> the measuring and terminology off

> > > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > > (CC, mg, ml,

> IU)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I think Dr.

> Jon said that his guys do good with

> > > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > > syringes but

> it appears those are for only small

> > > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Do I get one

> syringe and get needle replacements

> > > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > > get syringes

> with needles and only use the whole

> > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will be

> alternating glutes and then to the

> > > > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Should I get

> different gauge sizes for glutes and

> > > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > > like

> spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > > > >

> Links

> > > > > > > > > >

> -fullfeatured

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

March 16, 2011

Medco now gives me free needle, sharps and alcohol pads.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jbbooks1901 <jbbooks1901@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 2:12 AM

> > Yes a lot of guys use this

> bigger size.

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

> > > From: Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@...>

> > > Subject: Re: Help with

> understanding injecting myself

> > >

> > > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 4:45 PM

> > > Ok. Thanks

> > >

> > > I was going to get 23 gauge 1.5 inch

>

> I go with 25g*1 " for the actual injection regardless of

> where (I do thighs... wife COULD do glutes for me but I'd

> rather do these myself... it's not like I don't trust her,

> she's given thousands of shots (1st husband (she's a widow)

> was a diabetic who didn't like giving himself the

> subcutaneous insulin)... and I've shown her how to do a pain

> injection (an IM) for me if I'm in such bad pain I can't

> give it to myself (sciatica " jolts " can make your hands a

> bit unsteady).

>

> but the 25g needle is just smaller and doesn't hurt/bleed

> as much.

>

> if you're like me and want a SHARP point to stick yourself

> (not one that's been oh so slightly dulled going into the

> vial... some vials are worse than others... I HATE the hucog

> hcg vials where you have to hit -exactly- at the center)

>

> but anyway http://www.getpinz.com/ does a package deal where you

> can order your syringes w/needle and an equal number of

> separate needles in the same or different size (at a slight

> discount and including a box of alcohol wipes)... so you can

> draw with like a 22g so it'll draw FAST then swap to a new

> sterile smaller needle for the actual stick.... they sell

> various insulin syringes for like HCG too.

>

> though I've got a source for insulin syringes that's

> cheaper than walmart! (just a little... no sales tax)

>

> ------------------------------------

>

March 16, 2011

All this is very old men now do Test C shots subQ and find it works better helps

to keep E2 levels down. Even Dr. Shippen he did the book " The Testosterone

Syndrome " now does shots every 3 days subQ.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Leon Eksteen <zorroceasar@...>

> Subject: Re: Help with understanding injecting myself

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 6:33 AM

> Hi

> The advantage of a larger needle is that it draws up

> depo T easier as it is arealy thick substance.. The best is

> undeniable that the needle goes in deeper and that is what

> you want.Deep into the muscle. I injected into my top leg

> once too shallow and had a very bad time for 4

> days.Hurted like hell.

> Now my wife does the shot into my left upper butt and

> following one into right butt the next week.

> i use a 23 G needle but do not have any fat there so it

> goes in deep enough. If you have fat on the butt area you

> have to have a needle that passes the fat on the outside en

> goes into the muscle tissue underneath.

> I would say about 1 and a half inch into muscle.

>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > From:

> Charlie Sheets <buckeye8084@>

> > > > > > > > > > > Subject:

> Help with understanding

> > > > > > > > > injecting myself

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Date:

> Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:35 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Phil sent

> me a link to spotinjections.com before

> > > > > > > > > and it was

> > > > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Could you

> direct me on what I need to do to

> > > > > > > > > inject 120mg's

> > > > > > > > > > > of test

> cyp one time and then 60 mg a week there

> > > > > > > > > after? I'm

> > > > > > > > > > > confused

> about the measuring and terminology off

> > > > > > > > > it all.

> > > > > > > > > > > (CC, mg,

> ml, IU)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I think

> Dr. Jon said that his guys do good with

> > > > > > > > > 1CC

> > > > > > > > > > > syringes

> but it appears those are for only small

> > > > > > > > > insulin

> > > > > > > > > > > needles.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do I get

> one syringe and get needle replacements

> > > > > > > > > or do I

> > > > > > > > > > > get

> syringes with needles and only use the whole

> > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > once.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will be

> alternating glutes and then to the

> > > > > > > > > thigh for test

> > > > > > > > > > > cyp.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Should I

> get different gauge sizes for glutes and

> > > > > > > > > thighs

> > > > > > > > > > > like

> spotinjections says?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

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