Re: The Saga Continues!

[Guest guest]

Marc, you are too funny. I was ROFL at several parts: how you got an endo

" fired, " and going to a male gynecologist. If I were in my gyno's waiting room

and they called your name and a pregnant woman didn't go in with you, it would

surely raise MY eyebrows lol! Hopefully they won't make you use the stirrups.

Re the stress test: is that where you they inject you with something first? Do

you have these often? If the solution is iodine-based, it could be a cause of

high rT3, which you probably have, and could contribute to your seeming low

thyroid problem.

Barb

" marc200134470 " <cfs38@...> wrote:

>

> Tried to post this yesterday but it disappeared somehow.

> Went to the Cardiologist, and he saw my blood test results taken by the endo.

When I told him that she released me saying " I am fine. " he called one of his

staff into the exam room and told them to take the endo off of his referral list

immediately.

>

> Keeping this short as possible,....he pretty much agreed with what Barb said

on the other thread. Said my FT3 was not optimal, and my adrenals could be

acting in a 'compensatory' manner to support my thyroid. Of course that could

account for my BP getting out of control a bit, as well as my high pulse rate.

He mentioned my Cortisol level as well possibly being in play.

>

> Didn't like the Ferritin, but said to give it a few months since I have

stopped drinking. He was very glad about that BTW.

>

> Here is the part you folks will get a kick out of! LOL

> He met some other doctor a few weeks ago that specializes in 'sex hormones' as

he put it, and is referring me there. I figured it was another endo, but when I

got home I looked up the name. The guy is a gynecologist!!

>

> At this point I don't really care,.....insurance is at 100% pay, and my

testicles have been examined so many times it is getting old.

> Cardiologist ordered full blood panels, and I get to have another stress test

and echo next month. I expected it, as those 2 were last done over a year

ago,......whatever.

>

> He agreed with me once more about the estradiol since I had proof this time.

Finally got him to write me a scrip for Arimidex after I agreed I would wait to

see this other doctor before filling/using it.

> If this other doc doesn't agree, he asked me to tell him when I start it so he

can order bloodwork in a few weeks after starting.

>

> That is really my only question per se.

> He said to take 1/4 of a pill every 3 days, and that he wanted to test my E2

again in 2 or 3 weeks,......does that make any sense? I think he wants me to

take it down slowly and not overshoot.

>

> He also said that in his opinion I will need TRT even if I reduce my E2

levels, but understands that I only want to do that after I find out what

happens. He may very well be correct in the end, as he feels I should be around

the 800/900 level for Total T and I doubt I am going to go from 323 to that

range from estradiol reduction alone.

>

> Anyway, another novel from me. Should be fun sitting in a waiting room full of

women soon!

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,....I am known for my strange sense of humor at times. Have to keep things

light and amusing otherwise some of this medical garbage can get to you. Found

out last night my mother has to have an endoscopy and a colonoscopy next month

as she is having digestive issues. Also heard that my great-aunt has breast

cancer and is going in for a radical mastectomy next week.

I am learning what folks meant by the saying " getting older is not for wimps. "

I first had a nuclear type done in 2006, and then again in May 2009.

I have no idea if they use the iodine based stuff as in a CT, or the gadolinium

type used in MRI's. Guess I should find out before 10/14, but I don't know if I

would have any choice.

My issue is simply family history. My mother has heart issues,....my father that

I recently started speaking to has had heart issues, as well as a recent heart

attack. My grand-parents both died as a result of heart disease. He keeps a

close eye on me needless to say.

As of last check all I had was a small amount of left ventricular hypertrophy

due to the hypertension, and 'some' plaque build up. Most people don't realize

that even 20 year olds have 'some' plaque in their arteries.

I knew this was going to happen due to my BP running higher, and also due to my

pulse rate rising so much after I get on my feet. He did NOT want me to start on

a beta-blocker at this time though, so we didn't have to even go there.

Only stirrups I have ever been in were when riding horses!

I need to ask you a question about my mothers TSH level,......do you mind if I

send you an e-mail when I get the chance? Don't really want to turn this forum

into a thyroid based thing per se.

>

> Marc, you are too funny. I was ROFL at several parts: how you got an endo

" fired, " and going to a male gynecologist. If I were in my gyno's waiting room

and they called your name and a pregnant woman didn't go in with you, it would

surely raise MY eyebrows lol! Hopefully they won't make you use the stirrups.

>

> Re the stress test: is that where you they inject you with something first?

Do you have these often? If the solution is iodine-based, it could be a cause

of high rT3, which you probably have, and could contribute to your seeming low

thyroid problem.

>

> Barb

[Guest guest]

Marc it all sounds good to me and yes do go slow on Arimidex your not on TRT so

take E2 levels down slow. If you find you can't get it up in about a week stop

taking it your going down to low. Wood is the best gage for going to low on E2

I have found.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: The Saga Continues!

>

> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 1:11 PM

> Tried to post this yesterday but it

> disappeared somehow.

> Went to the Cardiologist, and he saw my blood test results

> taken by the endo. When I told him that she released me

> saying " I am fine. " he called one of his staff into the exam

> room and told them to take the endo off of his referral list

> immediately.

>

> Keeping this short as possible,....he pretty much agreed

> with what Barb said on the other thread. Said my FT3 was not

> optimal, and my adrenals could be acting in a 'compensatory'

> manner to support my thyroid. Of course that could account

> for my BP getting out of control a bit, as well as my high

> pulse rate. He mentioned my Cortisol level as well possibly

> being in play.

>

> Didn't like the Ferritin, but said to give it a few months

> since I have stopped drinking. He was very glad about that

> BTW.

>

> Here is the part you folks will get a kick out of! LOL

> He met some other doctor a few weeks ago that specializes

> in 'sex hormones' as he put it, and is referring me there. I

> figured it was another endo, but when I got home I looked up

> the name. The guy is a gynecologist!!

>

> At this point I don't really care,.....insurance is at 100%

> pay, and my testicles have been examined so many times it is

> getting old.

> Cardiologist ordered full blood panels, and I get to have

> another stress test and echo next month. I expected it, as

> those 2 were last done over a year ago,......whatever.

>

> He agreed with me once more about the estradiol since I had

> proof this time. Finally got him to write me a scrip for

> Arimidex after I agreed I would wait to see this other

> doctor before filling/using it.

> If this other doc doesn't agree, he asked me to tell him

> when I start it so he can order bloodwork in a few weeks

> after starting.

>

> That is really my only question per se.

> He said to take 1/4 of a pill every 3 days, and that he

> wanted to test my E2 again in 2 or 3 weeks,......does that

> make any sense? I think he wants me to take it down slowly

> and not overshoot.

>

> He also said that in his opinion I will need TRT even if I

> reduce my E2 levels, but understands that I only want to do

> that after I find out what happens. He may very well be

> correct in the end, as he feels I should be around the

> 800/900 level for Total T and I doubt I am going to go from

> 323 to that range from estradiol reduction alone.

>

> Anyway, another novel from me. Should be fun sitting in a

> waiting room full of women soon!

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not a problem Marc post what you want to ask Barb we or I would like to know

what is the going on and it might help others.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: The Saga Continues!

>

> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:09 PM

> Barb,....I am known for my strange

> sense of humor at times. Have to keep things light and

> amusing otherwise some of this medical garbage can get to

> you. Found out last night my mother has to have an endoscopy

> and a colonoscopy next month as she is having digestive

> issues. Also heard that my great-aunt has breast cancer and

> is going in for a radical mastectomy next week.

>

> I am learning what folks meant by the saying " getting older

> is not for wimps. "

>

> I first had a nuclear type done in 2006, and then again in

> May 2009.

> I have no idea if they use the iodine based stuff as in a

> CT, or the gadolinium type used in MRI's. Guess I should

> find out before 10/14, but I don't know if I would have any

> choice.

>

> My issue is simply family history. My mother has heart

> issues,....my father that I recently started speaking to has

> had heart issues, as well as a recent heart attack. My

> grand-parents both died as a result of heart disease. He

> keeps a close eye on me needless to say.

>

> As of last check all I had was a small amount of left

> ventricular hypertrophy due to the hypertension, and 'some'

> plaque build up. Most people don't realize that even 20 year

> olds have 'some' plaque in their arteries.

>

> I knew this was going to happen due to my BP running

> higher, and also due to my pulse rate rising so much after I

> get on my feet. He did NOT want me to start on a

> beta-blocker at this time though, so we didn't have to even

> go there.

>

> Only stirrups I have ever been in were when riding horses!

>

> I need to ask you a question about my mothers TSH

> level,......do you mind if I send you an e-mail when I get

> the chance? Don't really want to turn this forum into a

> thyroid based thing per se.

>

>

> >

> > Marc, you are too funny.  I was ROFL at several

> parts:  how you got an endo " fired, " and going to a

> male gynecologist.  If I were in my gyno's waiting room

> and they called your name and a pregnant woman didn't go in

> with you, it would surely raise MY eyebrows lol! 

> Hopefully they won't make you use the stirrups.

> >

> > Re the stress test:  is that where you they

> inject you with something first?  Do you have these

> often?  If the solution is iodine-based, it could be a

> cause of high rT3, which you probably have, and could

> contribute to your seeming low thyroid problem.

> > 

> > Barb

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil,....I mentioned your 'wood-o-meter' to him. He actually agreed that was a

good way to keep it in check, but still wants blood work in a few weeks if I

start. Planning on honoring my word though, and seeing the other doc first.

I am curious though whether my insurance will cover it or not.

Cardiologist said he would write a letter for my insurance if needed.

He laughed at what the endo said to me about Arimidex being ONLY for women with

breast cancer. He has read some of the studies about the use in males

himself,......funny thing is he said he read about it recently in an endo based

paper.

>

> Marc it all sounds good to me and yes do go slow on Arimidex your not on TRT

so take E2 levels down slow. If you find you can't get it up in about a week

stop taking it your going down to low. Wood is the best gage for going to low

on E2 I have found.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

[Guest guest]

This is what happened to Marc, the guy in Ocala after he went to the " scary

clueless " Endo woman that I walked out on. Br

The Saga Continues!

> Tried to post this yesterday but it disappeared somehow.

> Went to the Cardiologist, and he saw my blood test results taken by the

> endo. When I told him that she released me saying " I am fine. " he called

> one of his staff into the exam room and told them to take the endo off of

> his referral list immediately.

>

> Keeping this short as possible,....he pretty much agreed with what Barb

> said on the other thread. Said my FT3 was not optimal, and my adrenals

> could be acting in a 'compensatory' manner to support my thyroid. Of

> course that could account for my BP getting out of control a bit, as well

> as my high pulse rate. He mentioned my Cortisol level as well possibly

> being in play.

>

> Didn't like the Ferritin, but said to give it a few months since I have

> stopped drinking. He was very glad about that BTW.

>

> Here is the part you folks will get a kick out of! LOL

> He met some other doctor a few weeks ago that specializes in 'sex

> hormones' as he put it, and is referring me there. I figured it was

> another endo, but when I got home I looked up the name. The guy is a

> gynecologist!!

>

> At this point I don't really care,.....insurance is at 100% pay, and my

> testicles have been examined so many times it is getting old.

> Cardiologist ordered full blood panels, and I get to have another stress

> test and echo next month. I expected it, as those 2 were last done over a

> year ago,......whatever.

>

> He agreed with me once more about the estradiol since I had proof this

> time. Finally got him to write me a scrip for Arimidex after I agreed I

> would wait to see this other doctor before filling/using it.

> If this other doc doesn't agree, he asked me to tell him when I start it

> so he can order bloodwork in a few weeks after starting.

>

> That is really my only question per se.

> He said to take 1/4 of a pill every 3 days, and that he wanted to test my

> E2 again in 2 or 3 weeks,......does that make any sense? I think he wants

> me to take it down slowly and not overshoot.

>

> He also said that in his opinion I will need TRT even if I reduce my E2

> levels, but understands that I only want to do that after I find out what

> happens. He may very well be correct in the end, as he feels I should be

> around the 800/900 level for Total T and I doubt I am going to go from 323

> to that range from estradiol reduction alone.

>

> Anyway, another novel from me. Should be fun sitting in a waiting room

> full of women soon!

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

________________________________

From: Brett Savage <brshop@...>

Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 4:15:51 PM

Subject: Re: The Saga Continues!

 

This is what happened to Marc, the guy in Ocala after he went to the " scary

clueless " Endo woman that I walked out on. Br

The Saga Continues!

> Tried to post this yesterday but it disappeared somehow.

> Went to the Cardiologist, and he saw my blood test results taken by the

> endo. When I told him that she released me saying " I am fine. " he called

> one of his staff into the exam room and told them to take the endo off of

> his referral list immediately.

>

> Keeping this short as possible,....he pretty much agreed with what Barb

> said on the other thread. Said my FT3 was not optimal, and my adrenals

> could be acting in a 'compensatory' manner to support my thyroid. Of

> course that could account for my BP getting out of control a bit, as well

> as my high pulse rate. He mentioned my Cortisol level as well possibly

> being in play.

>

> Didn't like the Ferritin, but said to give it a few months since I have

> stopped drinking. He was very glad about that BTW.

>

> Here is the part you folks will get a kick out of! LOL

> He met some other doctor a few weeks ago that specializes in 'sex

> hormones' as he put it, and is referring me there. I figured it was

> another endo, but when I got home I looked up the name. The guy is a

> gynecologist!!

>

> At this point I don't really care,.....insurance is at 100% pay, and my

> testicles have been examined so many times it is getting old.

> Cardiologist ordered full blood panels, and I get to have another stress

> test and echo next month. I expected it, as those 2 were last done over a

> year ago,......whatever.

>

> He agreed with me once more about the estradiol since I had proof this

> time. Finally got him to write me a scrip for Arimidex after I agreed I

> would wait to see this other doctor before filling/using it.

> If this other doc doesn't agree, he asked me to tell him when I start it

> so he can order bloodwork in a few weeks after starting.

>

> That is really my only question per se.

> He said to take 1/4 of a pill every 3 days, and that he wanted to test my

> E2 again in 2 or 3 weeks,......does that make any sense? I think he wants

> me to take it down slowly and not overshoot.

>

> He also said that in his opinion I will need TRT even if I reduce my E2

> levels, but understands that I only want to do that after I find out what

> happens. He may very well be correct in the end, as he feels I should be

> around the 800/900 level for Total T and I doubt I am going to go from 323

> to that range from estradiol reduction alone.

>

> Anyway, another novel from me. Should be fun sitting in a waiting room

> full of women soon!

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Brett,......your experience proved to be correct obviously.

At least I got a reasonable amount of bloodwork out of it to go forward with.

Trying to look at it as a positive I guess.

She was very nice to me, but as you said clueless, or not interested in treating

anything out of her skill level.

Eventually I will find the right situation.

Wanna see an ob/gyn by any chance? LOL

>

> This is what happened to Marc, the guy in Ocala after he went to the " scary

> clueless " Endo woman that I walked out on. Br

[Guest guest]

We call my Heart DR. Dr. " D " everyone in his office calls him this but he is a

dam good Dr. his last name is DeGreogrio. He knows more about hormones then my

Dr. that treats me for them. You have a keeper there.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: The Saga Continues!

>

> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:39 PM

> Phil,....I mentioned your

> 'wood-o-meter' to him. He actually agreed that was a good

> way to keep it in check, but still wants blood work in a few

> weeks if I start. Planning on honoring my word though, and

> seeing the other doc first.

>

> I am curious though whether my insurance will cover it or

> not.

> Cardiologist said he would write a letter for my insurance

> if needed.

>

> He laughed at what the endo said to me about Arimidex being

> ONLY for women with breast cancer. He has read some of the

> studies about the use in males himself,......funny thing is

> he said he read about it recently in an endo based paper.

>

>

> >

> > Marc it all sounds good to me and yes do go slow on

> Arimidex your not on TRT so take E2 levels down slow. 

> If you find you can't get it up in about a week stop taking

> it your going down to low.  Wood is the best gage for

> going to low on E2 I have found.

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marc, That was a goof, didn't intend to send that to the list. Just glad

I didn't say something bad! LOL I was telling my wife about the experience

you had with that same lady doctor that I walked out on. Wife is out of

town right now so I meant to forward that to her. Someday maybe I will

learn how to do e-mail. LOL

Anyway that lady doctor scared me off in 5 minutes. I am just glad that you

are getting somewhere with your other doctors. I am doing OK with Dr Wong

now that my adrenal fatigue is being treated. He tells me he doesn't think

it's good my using Arimidex that I ordered myself after he wouldn't

prescribe it but he puts up with me. He's not pushy and full of himself

like some doctors are, so we get along and he does seem to know enough about

the adrenal fatigue to help me on that. He gives me credit for knowing

something. Calls it " my research. " You know how some doctors " tell " you

what they are going to do with you. He asks if something is what I want?

And I am like yes, yes, your the Doc. if that is what I need lets do it. I

don't know if that is just with me, maybe he thinks I am contrary, or if he

is like that with everybody. The other thing I like about him is he talks

to you one on one and really seems to care. My wife went to see him too she

also has adrenal insufficiently but she is already on 4mg of medrol for

keeping lupus in remission and for treating rheumatoid arthritis. She is

just so tired all the time, low energy and depressed I wish there were

something that could be done for her like the help I've gotten. Marc,

maybe if your " gyno " dock pans out maybe I can send her there. Good luck

with that. Brett

Re: The Saga Continues!

> Brett,......your experience proved to be correct obviously.

> At least I got a reasonable amount of bloodwork out of it to go forward

> with. Trying to look at it as a positive I guess.

> She was very nice to me, but as you said clueless, or not interested in

> treating anything out of her skill level.

>

> Eventually I will find the right situation.

> Wanna see an ob/gyn by any chance? LOL

>

>

>

>>

>> This is what happened to Marc, the guy in Ocala after he went to the

>> " scary

>> clueless " Endo woman that I walked out on. Br

[Guest guest]

Brett,.....I will let you know how it works out for sure. The guy is supposed to

be up on all the 'sex hormone' issues, and treats males also. I don't know if he

is one of those that is into all the compounded stuff or not, but I guess I will

find out.

My mother actually went to Dr. Wong once several years ago about her

pre-diabetic issues. She said he was nice enough, but she had a problem

understanding him. LOL

Maybe his 'Engrish' has improved since then!

[Guest guest]

My Son in Law had 2 small strokes about 4 months ago he was back to work in 4

days. He has had a strange rash on his face under his eyes going down to his

jaw bone.

Turns out he has lupus it's not the kind that does damage to orgens but he

suffers fatigue. I told him my Dr. gives me concerta for my fatigue. His Dr.

gave him something like it don't know the name of it yet he has not filled it

yet.

As for medrol some people with bad Adreanls don't do well on HC and take Medrol

this works for them great here are some links about it.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15455

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/faq/

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Brett Savage <brshop@...>

> Subject: Re: The Saga Continues!

>

> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 9:45 PM

> Marc,   That was a

> goof, didn't intend to send that to the

> list.   Just glad

> I didn't say something bad!  LOL  I was telling

> my wife about the experience

> you had with that same lady doctor that I walked out

> on.  Wife is out of

> town right now so I meant to forward that to her. 

> Someday maybe I will

> learn how to do e-mail.  LOL

>

> Anyway that lady doctor scared me off in 5 minutes.  I

> am just glad that you

> are getting somewhere with your other doctors.  I am

> doing OK with Dr Wong

> now that my adrenal fatigue is being treated.  He

> tells me he doesn't think

> it's good my using Arimidex that I ordered myself after he

> wouldn't

> prescribe it but he puts up with me.  He's not pushy

> and full of himself

> like some doctors are, so we get along and he does seem to

> know enough about

> the adrenal fatigue to help me on that.  He gives me

> credit for knowing

> something.  Calls it " my research. "   You know how

> some doctors " tell " you

> what they are going to do with you.  He asks if

> something is what I want?

> And I am like yes, yes, your the Doc. if that is what I

> need lets do it.  I

> don't know if that is just with me, maybe he thinks I am

> contrary, or if he

> is like that with everybody.  The other thing I like

> about him is he talks

> to you one on one and really seems to care.  My wife

> went to see him too she

> also has adrenal insufficiently but she is already on 4mg

> of medrol for

> keeping lupus in remission and for treating rheumatoid

> arthritis.  She is

> just so tired all the time, low energy and depressed I wish

> there were

> something that could be done for her like the help I've

> gotten.   Marc,

> maybe if your " gyno " dock pans out maybe I can send her

> there.  Good luck

> with that.   Brett

> Re: The Saga Continues!

>

>

> > Brett,......your experience proved to be correct

> obviously.

> > At least I got a reasonable amount of bloodwork out of

> it to go forward

> > with. Trying to look at it as a positive I guess.

> > She was very nice to me, but as you said clueless, or

> not interested in

> > treating anything out of her skill level.

> >

> > Eventually I will find the right situation.

> > Wanna see an ob/gyn by any chance? LOL

> >

> >

> >

> >>

> >> This is what happened to Marc, the guy in Ocala

> after he went to the

> >> " scary

> >> clueless " Endo woman that I walked out

> on.   Br

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marc, sorry to hear about your relatives' health. My mom had a mastectomy in

her 50s and a colonoscopy in her 70s and she's still here in her 80s today. She

is also hypothyroid which is why I'm so heavy into this medical research looking

for answers, or that will be my fate too. Hypothyroid causes heart disease too,

so it's not surprising in your family history given the hypo connection.

Re anyone's TSH: In healthy people it should be close to 1.0 or less. But in

anyone exhibiting hypo symptoms, I would NOT use the TSH at all, but rather the

Free T3, Free T4, Total T4, and Total T3. The TSH is put out by your pituitary

gland, in your head, and often doesn't reflect the thyroid levels in your body.

According to Dr. no, the brain and body are in two different compartments.

That's why you can have Alzheimer's patients with no brain walking around with

full body function. And intelligent people like Steve Hawking with no body

function.

What's the gynecologist's name? Apparently a lot of us here live in Central FL.

Barb

> >

> > Marc, you are too funny. I was ROFL at several parts: how you got an endo

" fired, " and going to a male gynecologist. If I were in my gyno's waiting room

and they called your name and a pregnant woman didn't go in with you, it would

surely raise MY eyebrows lol! Hopefully they won't make you use the stirrups.

> >

> > Re the stress test: is that where you they inject you with something first?

Do you have these often? If the solution is iodine-based, it could be a cause

of high rT3, which you probably have, and could contribute to your seeming low

thyroid problem.

> >

> > Barb

>

[Guest guest]

Barb, I am just assuming the guy is a gyno from what I could find under his

name. They have not called me yet to setup an appt. so all I know is Dr. Hunt at

this point.

As far as the thyroid question I had,.....seems you already answered what I

figured to be the case. I was possibly falsely under the impression that TSH

should be no more than 2 for a max reading even though the ranges go into the

4.5 area. I realize now that this test is nothing more than a broad based

'screening' tool to find people with serious issues.

My mothers have been running just above that range for several years, as in 2.02

and the like. She sent me her last bloodwork by fax to look at, and this time

TSH was 3.04 on a range of .40/4.50

Needless to say I told her she either got a bad reading, or needs more extensive

testing.

Her bloodwork this time was done by some small lab in Clermont instead of Quest

for some reason, so I am suspicious of some of her results. I told her to quit

letting the doc draw blood in his office and ship it wherever he is doing

business at the time, and to simply go to Quest with an order.

I presume she needs FT3/4, TotalT3/4, RT3,......and preferably the anti-body

tests as well?

I have noticed recently that she is gaining a few pounds, and seems more tired

than usual. She has always stayed in good shape weight wise for an almost 70

year old, so this alone tells me something is out of whack. Her mother was hypo

for a long time.

Thanks for all of your help.

>

> Marc, sorry to hear about your relatives' health. My mom had a mastectomy in

her 50s and a colonoscopy in her 70s and she's still here in her 80s today. She

is also hypothyroid which is why I'm so heavy into this medical research looking

for answers, or that will be my fate too. Hypothyroid causes heart disease too,

so it's not surprising in your family history given the hypo connection.

>

> Re anyone's TSH: In healthy people it should be close to 1.0 or less. But in

anyone exhibiting hypo symptoms, I would NOT use the TSH at all, but rather the

Free T3, Free T4, Total T4, and Total T3. The TSH is put out by your pituitary

gland, in your head, and often doesn't reflect the thyroid levels in your body.

According to Dr. no, the brain and body are in two different compartments.

That's why you can have Alzheimer's patients with no brain walking around with

full body function. And intelligent people like Steve Hawking with no body

function.

>

> What's the gynecologist's name? Apparently a lot of us here live in Central

FL.

>

> Barb

[Guest guest]

" marc200134470 " <cfs38@...> wrote:

> I presume she needs FT3/4, TotalT3/4, RT3,......and preferably the anti-body

tests as well?

At her age I would think they've already diagnosed her as hypothyroid, so the

antibody tests wouldn't really be necessary, just the other stuff you mentioned.

Barb

[Guest guest]

Nope,......her being hypo has never been mentioned one time.

She has never had any other thyroid related test short of TSH.

As I said,......I always thought that 2 or under was considered ok. That was

prior to coming here of course.

Her readings were always right around that point until this last one, so I

figured everything was fine.

I still don't trust some of these readings from this small independent lab

though. I think she needs to have the whole panel re-done along with other

thyroid testing added in.

>

> > I presume she needs FT3/4, TotalT3/4, RT3,......and preferably the anti-body

tests as well?

>

> At her age I would think they've already diagnosed her as hypothyroid, so the

antibody tests wouldn't really be necessary, just the other stuff you mentioned.

>

> Barb

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,.....I was wrong on the docs name.

It's Hall. Don't know how Hunt registered in my brain.

I was correct on the other though.,....OB/Gyn.

[Guest guest]

Wonder if they'll give you a pregnancy test when you tell them you haven't had a

period in awhile.

>

> Barb,.....I was wrong on the docs name.

> It's Hall. Don't know how Hunt registered in my brain.

>

> I was correct on the other though.,....OB/Gyn.

>