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250 IU HCG two times a week will probably fix that. I started doing this

recently (I'm on gel 4 years) and it seems to be helping a lot. It's kind of a

semi-standard protocol for people who inject test cyp; less so for gel users

(don't know why). Read Dr. Eugene Shippen's book " Testosterone Syndrome. " If

your doctor won't prescribe HCG then you can buy it on the internet. Can buy

syringes online also. Best to go through doc if you can. W

>

> I am taking 75 mg testosterone daily (0.75 g gel) and balls arr already

shrinking after 4 weeks on this dose. Not acceptable. I refuse to loose my

balls! Ejaculate amount is also horribly low now. What should I do?

>

> Thanks,

> T!

>

> Sendt fra min iPhone

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I second this. I have been doing this protocol for a couple of months now

and my balls came back in full force.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM, wjj1234 <wjj1234@...> wrote:

>

>

> 250 IU HCG two times a week will probably fix that. I started doing this

> recently (I'm on gel 4 years) and it seems to be helping a lot. It's kind of

> a semi-standard protocol for people who inject test cyp; less so for gel

> users (don't know why). Read Dr. Eugene Shippen's book " Testosterone

> Syndrome. " If your doctor won't prescribe HCG then you can buy it on the

> internet. Can buy syringes online also. Best to go through doc if you can. W

>

>

> >

> > I am taking 75 mg testosterone daily (0.75 g gel) and balls arr already

> shrinking after 4 weeks on this dose. Not acceptable. I refuse to loose my

> balls! Ejaculate amount is also horribly low now. What should I do?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > T!

> >

> > Sendt fra min iPhone

> >

>

>

>

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All my life, I have been suffering with smaller testicles. I had the misfortune

of having the surgery to bring down a testes at 10 years old and no doctor

checked my test., levels afterward. So, I get depressed on top of depression

when I look down at my testicles. And when I think of wanting to conceive a

child with a woman I haven't met yet. At 33 and with test., continuing making my

testes smaller I do not know...

I discussed HCG before and my Endo., stated it cannot do anything for me because

I am primary.

Even if HCG doesn't stimulate, Ill buy it just to have testicles that I have

never had before; normal looking.

With PE and this and derm., issues. It's like a force is telling me to accept

this and learn to be happy but I just cannot. I think of a woman and how she

will put up with my PE, chest, testicles, progression into working full time

while attending college at 33, etc.

I know. I know...

The best of luck to all

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wjj1234,

If you read DR. s paper his Update on HCG you will find from day one his men

on gels do 250 IU's of HCG every 3 days.

www.allthingsmale.com

I feel he was the Dr. that started the use of HCG with TRT both gels and shots.

All his men using gels do HCG.

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Phil

> From: wjj1234 <wjj1234@...>

> Subject: Re: Balls!

>

> Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 11:47 PM

> 250 IU HCG two times a week will

> probably fix that.  I started doing this recently (I'm

> on gel 4 years) and it seems to be helping a lot. It's kind

> of a semi-standard protocol for people who inject test cyp;

> less so for gel users (don't know why). Read Dr. Eugene

> Shippen's book " Testosterone Syndrome. "   If your doctor

> won't prescribe HCG then you can buy it on the

> internet.  Can buy syringes online also.  Best to

> go through doc if you can.  W

>

>

> >

> > I am taking 75 mg testosterone daily (0.75 g gel) and

> balls arr already shrinking after 4 weeks on this dose. Not

> acceptable. I refuse to loose my balls! Ejaculate amount is

> also horribly low now. What should I do?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > T!

> >

> > Sendt fra min iPhone

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Endo's I can't say this enough they are not good Dr.'s for men with hormone

problems. If your Primary what were your Total T levels before starting on TRT

if they were say 300 HCG will put your testis back to work making this much if

not more. I was told I am Primary went on HCG 500 IU's 3x's/wk. After 15 shot

did my labs and my Total T went from 600 to 1200 top of range at the time with

my lab was 1593.

Still my labs doubled this is how I found out I am not Primary I am Secondary my

Pituitary is not working from a head injury.

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Phil

> From: uu1845 <uu1845@...>

> Subject: Re: Balls!

>

> Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 1:07 AM

> All my life, I have been suffering

> with smaller testicles. I had the misfortune of having the

> surgery to bring down a testes at 10 years old and no doctor

> checked my test., levels afterward. So, I get depressed on

> top of depression when I look down at my testicles. And when

> I think of wanting to conceive a child with a woman I

> haven't met yet. At 33 and with test., continuing making my

> testes smaller I do not know...

>

> I discussed HCG before and my Endo., stated it cannot do

> anything for me because I am primary.

>

> Even if HCG doesn't stimulate, Ill buy it just to have

> testicles that I have never had before; normal looking.

>

> With PE and this and derm., issues. It's like a force is

> telling me to accept this and learn to be happy but I just

> cannot. I think of a woman and how she will put up with my

> PE, chest, testicles, progression into working full time

> while attending college at 33, etc.

>

> I know. I know...

>

> The best of luck to all

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Dude, a good woman won't care at all about your small testicles, your

gynecomastia (if that's what you have), your PE, etc, as long as you love her

and treat her like she's a goddess. For the most part it's true that size (beans

& frank and even body) doesn't matter nearly as much to a woman as we tend to

think. It's not what you do TO her that matters - it's what you do WITH her. Or

perhaps I should say that it's not what you do with your body, but what you do

with your heart.

All that being said, you should try the HCG and also some damiana. I took it for

awhile without telling my wife, and at one point as she began to fellate me, she

said, " Your balls are bigger! " - which affirmed in me the supposition that

damiana can indeed slightly increase testicle size.

>

> All my life, I have been suffering with smaller testicles. I had the

misfortune of having the surgery to bring down a testes at 10 years old and no

doctor checked my test., levels afterward. So, I get depressed on top of

depression when I look down at my testicles. And when I think of wanting to

conceive a child with a woman I haven't met yet. At 33 and with test.,

continuing making my testes smaller I do not know...

>

> I discussed HCG before and my Endo., stated it cannot do anything for me

because I am primary.

>

> Even if HCG doesn't stimulate, Ill buy it just to have testicles that I have

never had before; normal looking.

>

> With PE and this and derm., issues. It's like a force is telling me to accept

this and learn to be happy but I just cannot. I think of a woman and how she

will put up with my PE, chest, testicles, progression into working full time

while attending college at 33, etc.

>

> I know. I know...

>

> The best of luck to all

>

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I lost one testicle to cancer when I was 19 years old. When I was in my 30's

I had a hernia repair. The surgeon offered to put in a prosthesis. I chose

not to. The funny thing was that when I was making that decision, I

discussed it with my lover. When I told her about the decision I was making,

she was surprised. She had never noticed that I had one ball. I think we had

been together more than a year, at the time.

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:55 AM, james <jimevans_2000@...> wrote:

>

>

> Dude, a good woman won't care at all about your small testicles, your

> gynecomastia (if that's what you have), your PE, etc, as long as you love

> her and treat her like she's a goddess. For the most part it's true that

> size (beans & frank and even body) doesn't matter nearly as much to a woman

> as we tend to think. It's not what you do TO her that matters - it's what

> you do WITH her. Or perhaps I should say that it's not what you do with your

> body, but what you do with your heart.

>

> All that being said, you should try the HCG and also some damiana. I took

> it for awhile without telling my wife, and at one point as she began to

> fellate me, she said, " Your balls are bigger! " - which affirmed in me the

> supposition that damiana can indeed slightly increase testicle size.

>

>

>

> >

> > All my life, I have been suffering with smaller testicles. I had the

> misfortune of having the surgery to bring down a testes at 10 years old and

> no doctor checked my test., levels afterward. So, I get depressed on top of

> depression when I look down at my testicles. And when I think of wanting to

> conceive a child with a woman I haven't met yet. At 33 and with test.,

> continuing making my testes smaller I do not know...

> >

> > I discussed HCG before and my Endo., stated it cannot do anything for me

> because I am primary.

> >

> > Even if HCG doesn't stimulate, Ill buy it just to have testicles that I

> have never had before; normal looking.

> >

> > With PE and this and derm., issues. It's like a force is telling me to

> accept this and learn to be happy but I just cannot. I think of a woman and

> how she will put up with my PE, chest, testicles, progression into working

> full time while attending college at 33, etc.

> >

> > I know. I know...

> >

> > The best of luck to all

> >

>

>

>

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Haha what the he||, she never looked at your stuff? :o *shocked* It's funny

though! :)

>

>

> Dude, a good woman won't care at all about your small testicles, your

> gynecomastia (if that's what you have), your PE, etc, as long as you love

> her and treat her like she's a goddess. For the most part it's true that

> size (beans & frank and even body) doesn't matter nearly as much to a woman

> as we tend to think. It's not what you do TO her that matters - it's what

> you do WITH her. Or perhaps I should say that it's not what you do with your

> body, but what you do with your heart.

>

> All that being said, you should try the HCG and also some damiana. I took

> it for awhile without telling my wife, and at one point as she began to

> fellate me, she said, " Your balls are bigger! " - which affirmed in me the

> supposition that damiana can indeed slightly increase testicle size.

>

>

>

> >

> > All my life, I have been suffering with smaller testicles. I had the

> misfortune of having the surgery to bring down a testes at 10 years old and

> no doctor checked my test., levels afterward. So, I get depressed on top of

> depression when I look down at my testicles. And when I think of wanting to

> conceive a child with a woman I haven't met yet. At 33 and with test.,

> continuing making my testes smaller I do not know...

> >

> > I discussed HCG before and my Endo., stated it cannot do anything for me

> because I am primary.

> >

> > Even if HCG doesn't stimulate, Ill buy it just to have testicles that I

> have never had before; normal looking.

> >

> > With PE and this and derm., issues. It's like a force is telling me to

> accept this and learn to be happy but I just cannot. I think of a woman and

> how she will put up with my PE, chest, testicles, progression into working

> full time while attending college at 33, etc.

> >

> > I know. I know...

> >

> > The best of luck to all

> >

>

>

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I was surprised. We used to go to a nude beach together regularly. We had

sex regularly. Shared a bathroom, etc...

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Gibcast <gibcast@...> wrote:

>

>

> Haha what the he||, she never looked at your stuff? :o *shocked* It's funny

> though! :)

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Dude, a good woman won't care at all about your small testicles, your

> > gynecomastia (if that's what you have), your PE, etc, as long as you love

> > her and treat her like she's a goddess. For the most part it's true that

> > size (beans & frank and even body) doesn't matter nearly as much to a

> woman

> > as we tend to think. It's not what you do TO her that matters - it's what

> > you do WITH her. Or perhaps I should say that it's not what you do with

> your

> > body, but what you do with your heart.

> >

> > All that being said, you should try the HCG and also some damiana. I took

> > it for awhile without telling my wife, and at one point as she began to

> > fellate me, she said, " Your balls are bigger! " - which affirmed in me the

> > supposition that damiana can indeed slightly increase testicle size.

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > All my life, I have been suffering with smaller testicles. I had the

> > misfortune of having the surgery to bring down a testes at 10 years old

> and

> > no doctor checked my test., levels afterward. So, I get depressed on top

> of

> > depression when I look down at my testicles. And when I think of wanting

> to

> > conceive a child with a woman I haven't met yet. At 33 and with test.,

> > continuing making my testes smaller I do not know...

> > >

> > > I discussed HCG before and my Endo., stated it cannot do anything for

> me

> > because I am primary.

> > >

> > > Even if HCG doesn't stimulate, Ill buy it just to have testicles that I

> > have never had before; normal looking.

> > >

> > > With PE and this and derm., issues. It's like a force is telling me to

> > accept this and learn to be happy but I just cannot. I think of a woman

> and

> > how she will put up with my PE, chest, testicles, progression into

> working

> > full time while attending college at 33, etc.

> > >

> > > I know. I know...

> > >

> > > The best of luck to all

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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I want to personally thank the men on here for sharing. It's a refreshing

feeling to receive this type of " man love " .

I may have struggled more so due to being primary, but I didn't know what was

wrong until I was around 26 or 27. I went into a psy., office one day and asked

for help. I also had a fancy word I researched to describe my " man boobs " . After

the next few years, with much more tests, doctors and I started to understand

what was wrong.

When I started testing in 2005, my first Test., showed my total was: 137. that

explained a lot including not having sexual argues as a teenager and young

adult, for instance.

I see my Endo doc next Tuesday. I will demand to receive a script for Hcg or

some kind of alternative. I will also pick up damiana if cheap. I do not want to

become a person taking 12 different herbs, etc! No offense but that's a lot. I

switched back to the gel. I do not like needles, but with hcg I guess I have to

again.

I have to look into bone loss stuff as well, given the many years I lived

without enough Test.,.

My lone girlfriend didn't say anything about my scrotum area, but I did explain

to her beforehand. Now I have lost weight, I do not have that much fat in my

chest; now it's on the sides a bit. After three surgeries, two which made my

nipples inward with no sensation, I am done with this kind of surgery.

Thanks Jim and I hope your life will continue to be of good health and happiness

along with others on here. Thanks always Phil for taking the time to

individually respond to our concerns. And thank you to the other guys I cannot

'username' remember. Continue to share while helping yourselves, communities,

families, friends, and nations.

>

> > From: uu1845 <uu1845@...>

> > Subject: Re: Balls!

> >

> > Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 1:07 AM

> > All my life, I have been suffering

> > with smaller testicles. I had the misfortune of having the

> > surgery to bring down a testes at 10 years old and no doctor

> > checked my test., levels afterward. So, I get depressed on

> > top of depression when I look down at my testicles. And when

> > I think of wanting to conceive a child with a woman I

> > haven't met yet. At 33 and with test., continuing making my

> > testes smaller I do not know...

> >

> > I discussed HCG before and my Endo., stated it cannot do

> > anything for me because I am primary.

> >

> > Even if HCG doesn't stimulate, Ill buy it just to have

> > testicles that I have never had before; normal looking.

> >

> > With PE and this and derm., issues. It's like a force is

> > telling me to accept this and learn to be happy but I just

> > cannot. I think of a woman and how she will put up with my

> > PE, chest, testicles, progression into working full time

> > while attending college at 33, etc.

> >

> > I know. I know...

> >

> > The best of luck to all

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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uu1845 that was a great post your welcome and thanks.

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> From: uu1845 <uu1845@...>

> Subject: Re: Balls!

>

> Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 4:25 PM

> I want to personally thank the men on

> here for sharing. It's a refreshing feeling to receive this

> type of " man love " .

>

> I may have struggled more so due to being primary, but I

> didn't know what was wrong until I was around 26 or 27. I

> went into a psy., office one day and asked for help. I also

> had a fancy word I researched to describe my " man boobs " .

> After the next few years, with much more tests, doctors and

> I started to understand what was wrong.

>

> When I started testing in 2005, my first Test., showed my

> total was: 137. that explained a lot including not having

> sexual argues as a teenager and young adult, for instance.

>

> I see my Endo doc next Tuesday. I will demand to receive a

> script for Hcg or some kind of alternative. I will also pick

> up damiana if cheap. I do not want to become a person taking

> 12 different herbs, etc! No offense but that's a lot. I

> switched back to the gel. I do not like needles, but with

> hcg I guess I have to again.

>

> I have to look into bone loss stuff as well, given the many

> years I lived without enough Test.,.

>

>

> My lone girlfriend didn't say anything about my scrotum

> area, but I did explain to her beforehand. Now I have lost

> weight, I do not have that much fat in my chest; now it's on

> the sides a bit. After three surgeries, two which made my

> nipples inward with no sensation, I am done with this kind

> of surgery.

>

> Thanks Jim and I hope your life will continue to be of good

> health and happiness along with others on here. Thanks

> always Phil for taking the time to individually respond to

> our concerns. And thank you to the other guys I cannot

> 'username' remember. Continue to share while helping

> yourselves, communities, families, friends, and nations.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: uu1845 <uu1845@...>

> > > Subject: Re: Balls!

> > >

> > > Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 1:07 AM

> > > All my life, I have been suffering

> > > with smaller testicles. I had the misfortune of

> having the

> > > surgery to bring down a testes at 10 years old

> and no doctor

> > > checked my test., levels afterward. So, I get

> depressed on

> > > top of depression when I look down at my

> testicles. And when

> > > I think of wanting to conceive a child with a

> woman I

> > > haven't met yet. At 33 and with test., continuing

> making my

> > > testes smaller I do not know...

> > >

> > > I discussed HCG before and my Endo., stated it

> cannot do

> > > anything for me because I am primary.

> > >

> > > Even if HCG doesn't stimulate, Ill buy it just to

> have

> > > testicles that I have never had before; normal

> looking.

> > >

> > > With PE and this and derm., issues. It's like a

> force is

> > > telling me to accept this and learn to be happy

> but I just

> > > cannot. I think of a woman and how she will put

> up with my

> > > PE, chest, testicles, progression into working

> full time

> > > while attending college at 33, etc.

> > >

> > > I know. I know...

> > >

> > > The best of luck to all

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Is this a rhetorical question?

From a fertility standpoint, I don't think the size of either matters. Guys with

short penises and small balls can still impregnate.

From a psychological standpoint, the size may matter to the owner of said

equipment. Many men wish they had bigger equipment.

From a sexual standpoint, many men believe that women want men with bigger

equipment. This is true to a point, but most women are more concerned with the

personality of a guy and how he treats her. Most women are more concerned with

how big a guy's HEART is.

From a spiritual standpoint, it doesn't matter.

From an ecological standpoint, bigger equipment means an increased emission of

CO2, and as such, big-dicked guys contribute to Global Warming.

From a political point of view - all politicians have small penises and very

large anuses. Small pricked butt-holes. Can't stand any of 'em.

Hope that helps. Was just kidding about the global warming stuff.

>

> Does the size of balls really matter? Does the size of a mans dick matter?

>

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One of my testicles is prosthetic as a result of loosing one testicle to the

mumps when I was a teenager. Obviously, the fake one stays the same size

regardless of what I do. The other testicle used to be pretty large. I suppose

this was because it was doing the work of two. However, it did begin to shrink

some after starting testosterone therapy.

Like many men, I would choose to be really " hung " if given the opportunity. This

is pure vanity, I know. Most women, and most certainly not my wife, care whether

a guy is hung like a horse or not. However, I care.

I've noticed a couple of changes since starting on HCG. One is that my testicles

are beginning to hang a little lower than before and my penis appears slightly

larger, even when completely flaccid. It makes me wonder if somehow I suffer

from arrested development. I didn't know my dad well enough to know how well

hung he was. I am and only child so I don't have male siblings for comparison

sake. It seems unlikely that at my old age, these things could change.

I noticed that the reccomendation for Hypogonadism on the HCG leaflet is to

inject 2000 mg twice a week for a minimum of 4 months. Has anyone heard anything

about this? How would this relate to combined therapy using Testosterone

Cypionate @ about 100 mg a week and HCG? I've been injecting half that amount of

HCG with good results and no indication that it is converting to estrogen.

>

> I am taking 75 mg testosterone daily (0.75 g gel) and balls arr already

shrinking after 4 weeks on this dose. Not acceptable. I refuse to loose my

balls! Ejaculate amount is also horribly low now. What should I do?

>

> Thanks,

> T!

>

> Sendt fra min iPhone

>

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2000 mg twice a week will cause permanent damage to your leydig cells in your

testicles, so don't go that route. Have you checked out Dr. 's HCG Update

info on the allthingsmale site? I think the link is under the " Publications "

link.

I usually tell this story when guys start asking about reduced testicle size.

About a year ago, I noticed that even with HCG, my boys were getting a bit

smaller. After doing research, I found anecdotal reports that damiana could

increase ball size. Without telling my wife, I started taking Damiana every day.

About a week or so later, as she was beginning to bless me with her oral skills,

she looked up at me and said, " Your balls are getting bigger! " - which was all

the evidence I needed to believe that Damiana can, indeed, increase testicle

size. You might want to give it a try. It's very inexpensive and can be found at

any health food/nutrition store.

Due to circumstances beyond my control, I had to go without my Test Cyp shots

for about two months. I noticed my boys got larger during hat time. Now that I'm

back on the Test, I'm taking Damiana every day to help keep their size up.

You might also think about manually massaging them for about five minutes a day,

and you might look into getting a ballzinger as well. The former should help

with size, and the latter has been known to increase size and has a positive

result with Test levels and and such.

> >

> > I am taking 75 mg testosterone daily (0.75 g gel) and balls arr already

shrinking after 4 weeks on this dose. Not acceptable. I refuse to loose my

balls! Ejaculate amount is also horribly low now. What should I do?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > T!

> >

> > Sendt fra min iPhone

> >

>

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Primemuscle,

What your reading on HCG's box or insert is for Fertility and doing them big

shots can make you Primary your testis will become desensitized to the LH marker

in the HCG and stop working.

Never take more then 500 IU's in a day and this is too much.

As for your flaccid state of your penis it will look much smaller when Estradiol

levels are to high or to low. I use this to tell what is going on with my

levels. If my Penis is not cold and it is very small I know my Estradiol levels

are off then I try to figure out if I am to low or to high. If I am to low I

can't get it up taking Viagra. If I am too high but not real high I can get it

up but it's not hard and when I stop touching it it goes down fast.

As for having male siblings you can't tell how big you should be by this my

younger brother is hung like a horse. His problem with women was he is to big

and he hurt them if he was not careful.

I was avg. the youngest was on the small side.

Even if you suffered from arrested development what you now have your stuck with

it.

If you do more HCG then your Testis can handle it will covert into Estradiol and

is not good for your Testis.

I do my Test C shots every 3 days doing this helps keep me leveled and my blood

thinner. I helps with Estradiol levels. I do 250 IU's of HCG the day before my

next shot. I don't do HCG the day before my Labs it will not give you true

labs. So the day before my Test C shot I don't do HCG and I do labs on the day

of my next Test C shot but before the shot.

You might find you will do better doing your shots 2x's a week. Ask your Dr.

about this.

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Phil

> From: Primemuscle <Primemuscle@...>

> Subject: Re: Balls!

>

> Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 4:52 PM

> One of my testicles is prosthetic as

> a result of loosing one testicle to the mumps when I was a

> teenager. Obviously, the fake one stays the same size

> regardless of what I do. The other testicle used to be

> pretty large. I suppose this was because it was doing the

> work of two. However, it did begin to shrink some after

> starting testosterone therapy.

>

> Like many men, I would choose to be really " hung " if given

> the opportunity. This is pure vanity, I know. Most women,

> and most certainly not my wife, care whether a guy is hung

> like a horse or not. However, I care.

>

> I've noticed a couple of changes since starting on HCG. One

> is that my testicles are beginning to hang a little lower

> than before and my penis appears slightly larger, even when

> completely flaccid. It makes me wonder if somehow I suffer

> from arrested development. I didn't know my dad well enough

> to know how well hung he was. I am and only child so I don't

> have male siblings for comparison sake. It seems unlikely

> that at my old age, these things could change.

>

>

> I noticed that the reccomendation for Hypogonadism on the

> HCG leaflet is to inject 2000 mg twice a week for a minimum

> of 4 months. Has anyone heard anything about this? How would

> this relate to combined therapy using Testosterone Cypionate

> @ about 100 mg a week and HCG? I've been injecting half that

> amount of HCG with good results and no indication that it is

> converting to estrogen.

>

>

>

> >

> > I am taking 75 mg testosterone daily (0.75 g gel) and

> balls arr already shrinking after 4 weeks on this dose. Not

> acceptable. I refuse to loose my balls! Ejaculate amount is

> also horribly low now. What should I do?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > T!

> >

> > Sendt fra min iPhone

> >

>

>

>

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